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Canadian Mobile Operators

Hi all,
Going to Canada in a few months for an extended holiday and wanted to get a SIM over there to whack in the Exec.
What mobile operators are out there and which are the best in terms of tarrifs and coverage?
Thanks!
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Canadian GSM Carriers
Only 2 to speak of, Telus and Rogers Mobility (which I use).
Not sure what types of rates and short term plans they have however. I'm sure their websites have all that information.

Telus is best for coverage Rogers is not bad depending on where you are if your in a main city like toronto or big city like that Rogers is great if your nayware else Telus is the way to go, if your going anyware west Alberta or BC area Telus has the best covarage anyware.
as far as plans and costs I don't know I like telus which I use but am not familiar with rogers although I'm told they are resonable. one thing tho I thought I read something about SIM if your going with a sim card I do not beleive Telus has SIMS as they are not GSM and rogers is.
thats it for my lil blurb

G1 Coming to Rogers in Canada

Tons of articles on it, but here is one anyways:
http://www.i4u.com/article24643.html
My question is: Since I already have the T-Mobile G1 unlocked and using it on Rogers, I wonder if they're either going to support the frequency of 3G that my phone supports, or if the Rogers G1 will have the different frequency. Hope they release more details soon so I know if I should sell this one to grab one that I can actually get 3G on :S
Any thoughts?

I wonder pow much they'll rape yu for data charges.
I used to live in Vancouver, and know what a rip-off data charges are up there.

http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/July2008/21/c6305.html
http://wirelessnorth.ca/2008/10/16/one-things-for-certain-about-the-g-phone/
** this says that rogers has the 1700/2100 AWS spectrum in Canada. Presumably, the Dream and Sapphire (there is no such thing as a "G1" -- this is a TMOBILE-ONLY rebranding of the Dream) launch will coincide with the enablement of this network.

Oh, you'll note how much they paid for AWS.... "In total, Rogers will pay $999,367,000."
heh heh... nearly a billion smackers, but they've got 20 MHz in all areas of the country.

no, rogers is 850/1900. so im hoping i can get it on AT&T 3G. that would be so awesome

dascientist said:
no, rogers is 850/1900. so im hoping i can get it on AT&T 3G. that would be so awesome
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You, I'm sorry to say, are an IDIOT.
If you would actually read the whole thread, you would see that no, Rogers also owns rights to a 20 MHz spread of the 1700/2100 AWS band as well, which they will presumably be launching with the Dream. Why pay a BILLION DOLLARS for something if you're not going to USE IT?

True
So June 2nd G1 from T-Mobile can use 3G ?!
what about fido?!
I'm waiting for $30/6GB data plan
its like... almost unlimited

nothings for sure yet...
either rogers will start running the new band that t-mobile runs, or the devices have a different radio compatible to rogers' current 3g band

update: seems like the Canadian HTC Dream will run on AT&T / Rogers 3G bands:
http://www.androidincanada.ca/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/sellsheet1.jpg

t3mp3st said:
Tons of articles on it, but here is one anyways:
http://www.i4u.com/article24643.html
My question is: Since I already have the T-Mobile G1 unlocked and using it on Rogers, I wonder if they're either going to support the frequency of 3G that my phone supports, or if the Rogers G1 will have the different frequency. Hope they release more details soon so I know if I should sell this one to grab one that I can actually get 3G on :S
Any thoughts?
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the 3G wont work with the tmobile version. different bands for 3G.

Please share your T-Mobile US HD2 Unlocking and International 3G network experience

Me and seemingly hundreds of other users are waiting to see if it is possible to unlock the March 24th-released T-Mobile US HD2 and also to see if it is possible to connect to 3/3.5G networks outside the US/Canada before we purchase. Please post any experiences you have of:-
1. Unlocking the T-Mobile US version of the HD2 to use on other carriers (say how you did it and which carrier you changed to).
2. Using the T-Mobile US HD2 on a 3/3.5G network outside of North America (say which country and carrier and download speeds).
3. Flashing the T-Mobile US HD2 to different ROMs/radios.
I have contacted a carrier in Taiwan (FarEasTone) and they said that it "should" work there on the 2100Mhz band if it is unlocked but I want solid proof before I lay down the cash.
I found this old link www gsm-forum.eu/smart-phones-pdas-palm-organizers/16571-htc-unlock-free.html that has software that might've unlocked older models of HTC phones. Might be worth a try or please share if you know of any other free software that does the same thing for the T-Mobile US HD2.
Please don't bother posting if you are just asking whether it works or not.
Thanks for sharing!

Unlocking the tmobile hd2 (1024Leo)
they are calling it the 1024Leo after the fact that it has 1 gig rom. You MUST use the spl 2 to unlock it and roms specifically made for tmo hd2.
Not sure if the euro band is there but you can check phone>> settings for bands supported. Tmos rom is not bad but not for me. Cant wait to redo it.
Here is a good link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5983094#post5983094

For my knowledge, I already tried T-Mobile Touch 3G at Taiwan by Taiwan Mobile network and it is working right now. Touch 3G has same band support with TMobile US HD2. I will receive HD2 in couple days, I will try it and post the result. TMobile use 1700Mhz and 2100Mhz together for 3G but all Taiwan 3G network use 2100Mhz or 900Mhz only.

Did anyone experience??
Did anyone experience the unlocked t-mobile HD2 to work with 3g outside the US????
I hope anyone could share the experience!!

sevoflurane said:
Did anyone experience the unlocked t-mobile HD2 to work with 3g outside the US????
I hope anyone could share the experience!!
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I have used my unlocked t-mobile hd2 in Latvia, Netherlands, and United Kingdom so far, and had 3G in all three countries.

I am currently using mine in the Philippines and is doing great I am getting fast speeds on Globe Telecom Network. Speed is quite good switching from 3g to H most of the time.

gromsy said:
Me and seemingly hundreds of other users are waiting to see if it is possible to unlock the March 24th-released T-Mobile US HD2 and also to see if it is possible to connect to 3/3.5G networks outside the US/Canada before we purchase. Please post any experiences you have of:-
1. Unlocking the T-Mobile US version of the HD2 to use on other carriers (say how you did it and which carrier you changed to).
2. Using the T-Mobile US HD2 on a 3/3.5G network outside of North America (say which country and carrier and download speeds).
3. Flashing the T-Mobile US HD2 to different ROMs/radios.
I have contacted a carrier in Taiwan (FarEasTone) and they said that it "should" work there on the 2100Mhz band if it is unlocked but I want solid proof before I lay down the cash.
I found this old link www gsm-forum.eu/smart-phones-pdas-palm-organizers/16571-htc-unlock-free.html that has software that might've unlocked older models of HTC phones. Might be worth a try or please share if you know of any other free software that does the same thing for the T-Mobile US HD2.
Please don't bother posting if you are just asking whether it works or not.
Thanks for sharing!
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I was in Europe last month and got a 3G connection in France (mostly Bytel) and the UK (mostly T-Mobile). Speeds varied from about 400Kb to 1100Kb. I was using a locked phone with a T-Mobile USA SIM. I talked to a UK T-Mobile dealer and he said they were using the 2100Mhz band for 3G. Prepaid SIM cards were available everywhere. I didn't use cellular data that frequently (mostly sent pictures with WiFi) so I never bothered to get the phone unlocked.

Brazil
I Live in Brazil and my operator is " 3G BRA BrTCelular Oi "
I buy my T-Mo HD2 on april unlocked on US
Until the update to 2.13 my phone freeze many times when I connected on 3G network and next received a call
After update to 2.13 no more freeze problems

Finally!!!
Wooooooooooooohhhhhhoooooooooooo!!!
Just got the phone, and the 3g network is working perfectly like a charm!!!
Thank God!!
Awesome phone!!! I love hTC!!
So that makes Africa included with the others and especially Egypt for the TMOUS working for 3g network outside the US!!
Go ahead HD2 lovers BUY........ and ENJOY!!!

1. Unlocking the T-Mobile US version of the HD2 to use on other carriers (say how you did it)
does anyone know how to do this and have the appropriate numbers etc ???????

...you either buy an unlocking service somewhere online, or call T-Mobile customer care and request an unlock code if you are a current T-Mobile customer.

t-mobile US HD2 uses HDSPA 17/2100 bands for 3G so anywhere those bands are present, you should get 3G (unless the local carrier is blocking it for non in network phones)

sevoflurane said:
Did anyone experience the unlocked t-mobile HD2 to work with 3g outside the US????
I hope anyone could share the experience!!
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do you think it will works with me in Jordan using ORANGE 3G???
thanx

Data works in England
My husband and I are in London with our unlocked TMOUS HD2 and LG Optimus T phones, and I can get 3G on Vodafone prepaid. All I had to do was dial 191 on my handset to get Vodafone customer service, and told them that I am visiting from the U.S. using an unlocked HTC HD2, and would like the APN settings for the data connection. The rep sent me a couple of text messages, one that said the set up text was also coming and what PIN to use to run the set up executable, and the other message contain the set up executable. It worked straight away, and the 3G service is pretty quick. I have looked at a YouTube video with no stutter, and launch web pages without delay. I am very pleased.

I unlocked my HTC HD2 to use it with AT&T at SuperUnlockCodes for a very cheap price and quickly.

Bypassing AT&T

Picked up an Aria and immediately found I was heading overseas. Managed to get it unlocked and put a new sim in, but now it will not connect to 3G networks. It will connect to edge quite nicely though.
HTC told me that the only way to have 3G access was to have the AT&T sim in the phone. I really doubt that, and after reading the threads on here I think I have come to the right place to find a work around.
So any suggestions or fixes??
If this is something easy please forgive the newb.

If you are still in the United States, are you using T-Mobile? If so then the 3g bands are different from At&t's. It will only connect to edge. Also if you go anywhere outside the US then the same is true.

I would think that were the case if the sim carried the frequency settings but the phone does correct?
I am in Israel and when the AT&T sim is in the unlocked Aria I have 3G, put Cellcoms sim in the Aria and 3G goes away. Now if I put the same Cellcom sim in an unlocked mytouch 3G, well there is 3G again. All of this is happening on the cellcom network by the way. So that tells me that there has to be some setting that AT&T's sim is tripping either when inserted or removed??
Now does that make sense..... Or not?

hmmm... that is a pickle then. I couldn't tell you about that. You might want to contact Cellcom and ask them personally about it. I don't know if there is a settings file that changes that. I know it only comes with two bands and maybe the at&t sim is connecting you to another network that you didn't list and maybe that is the mix up.

Yea sat with one of their guys for 2.5 hours yesterday. Was making him crazy, that is why I broke down and called HTC. Thanks for the input.

att aria 3g freqs 850/1900
tmobile touch3g 3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
looks that cellcom carrier freqs are the same as tmobiles since aria does not support those u wont get 3g just edge

Il.spooky said:
Picked up an Aria and immediately found I was heading overseas. Managed to get it unlocked and put a new sim in, but now it will not connect to 3G networks.
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How did you get it unlocked, if you may share?

Gorilla800lbs said:
How did you get it unlocked, if you may share?
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just call customer service in the usa its(was-idk if it still is) a law that companies must unlock upon users request

Nope the law went away...again. They claimed there were no unlock codes yet. I found a place online it was called "HTCsimunlock" I think. Anywho they sent me the code after about 30 min.
BTW. Figured it out have 3G now but only in certain areas with Cellcom. Still working on making it everywhere.
Thanks for the help everybody.

Great, thanks!

Any 850/1900 3G Galaxy S with front camera?

AT&T, with their infinite wisdom, decided to remove the front facing camera from the Captivate as to keep video calling "exclusive" to the iPhone 4. Bastards!
Anyway, is there any version of the Galaxy S out there that supports 850/1900 3G AND comes with the front camera? I know Rogers is getting their version some time in September, but no word as to whether the front camera will be included, nor do I want to wait that long

buy the internation verison "i9000" that one has front facing camera, and it can go video calling with skype/fringe or phone to phone on any Europe/Asia phone network.
just north america have the feature DISABLED, because they want to make people belive it is for "iphone" only

AllGamer said:
buy the internation verison "i9000" that one has front facing camera, and it can go video calling with skype/fringe or phone to phone on any Europe/Asia phone network.
just north america have the feature DISABLED, because they want to make people belive it is for "iphone" only
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It doesn't have support for 850mhz 3G, or does it? New York city is primarily 850, which is why I'm looking for an 850/1900 compatible model

Bell Vibrant Galaxy S
http://galaxys.bell.ca/
looks pretty much like the Euro version. except Bell runs on the HSPA 850MHz, so it has the bands that you require
2G probably isn't tested though, since Bell doesn't run on a GSM network

Ziostilon said:
Bell Vibrant Galaxy S
since Bell doesn't run on a GSM network
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If that's the case, I highly doubt it will work on AT&T.

Ziostilon said:
Bell Vibrant Galaxy S
http://galaxys.bell.ca/
looks pretty much like the Euro version. except Bell runs on the HSPA 850MHz, so it has the bands that you require
2G probably isn't tested though, since Bell doesn't run on a GSM network
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INeedYourHelp said:
If that's the case, I highly doubt it will work on AT&T.
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I wouldn't say that though, my brother had an Omnia II from Bell and it supported Quadband 2G and 850/1900 3G

r34p3rex said:
I wouldn't say that though, my brother had an Omnia II from Bell and it supported Quadband 2G and 850/1900 3G
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the thing is, if you are willing to change from GSM to CDMA
DATA will not work, if you are not joined to either GSM or CDMA

AllGamer said:
the thing is, if you are willing to change from GSM to CDMA
DATA will not work, if you are not joined to either GSM or CDMA
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Dunno, works fine for him on AT&T 3G Voice works over GSM also

a quick google search reveals that phone is a GSM phone, so it can not be from Bell.
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Samsung-Omnia-II-phone-p_3790.html
your friend must have purchased it elsewhere, Bell only works on CDMA

AllGamer said:
buy the internation verison "i9000" that one has front facing camera, and it can go video calling with skype/fringe or phone to phone on any Europe/Asia phone network.
just north america have the feature DISABLED, because they want to make people belive it is for "iphone" only
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Is it DISABLED or is has the camera been removed. I can't tell since there are indications of some kind of sensors on the front above and to the left of the AT&T logo. If it has been disabled there is the possibility of enabling it with firmware or other software. If it has been removed, no software in the world is going to make a front-facing camera work. Do you have actual information or is this speculation?

AllGamer said:
a quick google search reveals that phone is a GSM phone, so it can not be from Bell.
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Samsung-Omnia-II-phone-p_3790.html
your friend must have purchased it elsewhere, Bell only works on CDMA
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http://www.bell.ca/shopping/PrsShpW..._catalog_item_sku=68968&region=AB&language=en
Dual-band: 850/1900 MHz HSPA/UMTS
Quad-band: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE
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I'm positive it was a Bell phone.. the box was labeled as Bell mobility

i9000 has the camera,
local USA versions of the SGS Galaxy S have their cameras removed.
and north america phone network does not officially support face to face phone calls yet (we are so technologically backwards here... sigh... )
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Is it DISABLED or is has the camera been removed. I can't tell since there are indications of some kind of sensors on the front above and to the left of the AT&T logo. If it has been disabled there is the possibility of enabling it with firmware or other software. If it has been removed, no software in the world is going to make a front-facing camera work. Do you have actual information or is this speculation?
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AllGamer said:
i9000 has the camera,
local USA versions of the SGS Galaxy S have their cameras removed.
and north america phone network does not officially support face to face phone calls yet (we are so technologically backwards here... sigh... )
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Yea, kind of sad :\ We could use it with Fring if it had it, just like the Evo 4G

wow, beats me, isn't that interesting... since when Bell started offering GSM services?
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http://www.bell.ca/shopping/PrsShpW..._catalog_item_sku=68968&region=AB&language=en
I'm positive it was a Bell phone.. the box was labeled as Bell mobility
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I get the impression at ATT is trying to lessen the load on their data network. That's why they remove the front camera. They don't remove it from iPhone because they have already forced apple to also disable facetime over 3G in iPhone 4.

Bell's old 2G network was CDMA (and EVDO for 3G), but their HSPA Network is Sim Card based. This includes 3.5G Data as well as normal Voice/Text. So yes, the Bell Samsung Vibrant will work on AT&T as it as the same HSPA bands (850/1900) and it has a front facing camera.
Any unlocked phone that supports HSPA 850 OR 1900 will work on Bell. Their towers broadcast both frequencies, but you'll lose reception in rural areas (and basements) with phones that only support 1900 (like the Euro Galaxy S). I have a Telstra HTC Desire that has only the 850 band, works perfectly in all areas.

I hope the bell version doesn't have a front camera or else I will be very sad with my version. But oh well. By the time bell releases their version, perhaps the 4g epic will be out. Hardware Keyboard + Flash > 15 extra GB

well even so, i still prefer the Euro SGS with only the 1900 band & 2100 band working for both voice and data.
if all else fails, i can always revert back to my old HTC Athena for 850 bands in dire emergencies

DO get the Canadian Bell Version its the same as the i9000 to a T
Yes it will work, and yes it's GSM based with SIM. If you do a quick check of just the BELL website, they Sell APPLE products guys.. which as we know are DEFINITELY GSM... not only that but they sell sim cards on the front page.
I'm getting one first day, and I don't even live in Canada! It's a QUAD-band phone for one thing, world phone dudes... secondly.. it does support 850 HSDPA AT&T bands (they use the iphone4's for christ sakes of course they aren't CDMA!)
on Wiki (it's cited but no clue on validity) for Bell you will see it's basically Canada's AT&T correct? Ma Bell owns a whopping 39% of Bell it appears.
The euro version is not on 850 for us AT&T users so do NOT get that one, get the Canadian 'Vibrant' as they're calling it. I'm sure Rogers will shoot one out soon as well.
Anyways I checked out AT&T on facebook and it appears they are 'testing' LTE late this year and implementing next. I think that's a crock of sheet myself, they do everything last and give their users sheeeeet! Verizon and Sprint and even MetroPCS are rolling it out ASAP it appears beginning next year Goodluck out there kids!
@ap27 sorry dude missed your post there
Yeah I had a desire for 2 months loved it, wanted to move to the Galaxy, the screen is at least 5x better no sh*t do a side by side, I had both for over a month until I sold my Desire for over $150 what I paid for it on ebay hah.
forgot release date is 2 days August 6th and it has the SAME hardware buttons as the i9000 not like the 'Tmobile USA Vibrant', so this pup will flash up stock i9000 rocks asap!
Also guys Bell charges a whopping $75 to unlock their phones, I asked their reps 2 weeks ago with all the info. BUT you can easily go here ( http://www.unlock2go.com/ ) I spoke to their rep a week ago (they're based in Florida, USA) and they'll be doing unlocking for it, $29 one time of course.... not bad.
As for the front facing camera (FFC) I think we all know that once sprint launches the epic and such we will see TONS of free apps on the market for video chat, even more so on your data service not just wifi. Gravy! Live nude chats with the lady for free hah

anyone know if we can unlock the bell version using the same method to unlock the other SGS models?