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Thinking of buying a nexus 7

So I'm thinking of buying a nexus 7 for school but I would like to hear some opinions from the people who own it.does it have many bugs? I am quite into android so I am going root it/install rooms so hows the development on it?
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I use mine for school book text. Works great nut a 10 inch screen would be better for reading.
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no bugs. none that i experience with stock (only spend 2 hours in stock, straight root after that), there are some bugs in certain custom rom but nothing dealbreaking or annoying. The UI is the smoothest ever from android and you will love it.

I am also thinking about buying it or the Asus tf300 or not.
Is there any problem while using the 7" tablet for the school? Or a 10" tablet us better?
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Its a great all around device. Reviews have been mostly positive but you have to use it to see for yourself. As for me, I love the thing lol. Use it for notes and emails. For school it works great. Gaming is great when I get a chance do get my gaming fix! Media usage is superb and I can't complain one bit about it. I have had no issues with the screen defect that has been reported by some. Screen is a tad washed out when comparing it to my one x but the one x is the best screen in the market in my opinion at least. For what that is worth. (Nothing) lol. Size wise I find it perfect for school and everything else. I use the new iPad at work everyday because it was provided by the company( I have to, not that I want to lol) and I just prefer a 7 inch form factor. Overall I'm super pleased with it and would recommend it to anyone who asks. School, games,media and with it being an android device, there is not really anything you can't do on this tablet. (Within reason lol)
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Saenzscene said:
Its a great all around device. Reviews have been mostly positive but you have to use it to see for yourself. As for me, I love the thing lol. Use it for notes and emails. For school it works great. Gaming is great when I get a chance do get my gaming fix! Media usage is superb and I can't complain one bit about it. I have had no issues with the screen defect that has been reported by some. Screen is a tad washed out when comparing it to my one x but the one x is the best screen in the market in my opinion at least. For what that is worth. (Nothing) lol. Size wise I find it perfect for school and everything else. I use the new iPad at work everyday because it was provided by the company( I have to, not that I want to lol) and I just prefer a 7 inch form factor. Overall I'm super pleased with it and would recommend it to anyone who asks. School, games,media and with it being an android device, there is not really anything you can't do on this tablet. (Within reason lol)
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Is it really good performance for playing games? I heard some games aren't have a good performance
No any complain about the nexus 7 ?
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I was actually thinking of buying the nexus 7 also. However, it's completely sold out everywhere and have no idea when these places are getting a new batch... I also wanted to wait until they get the imperfections out of the way and it's a good solid device with no hardware defects. Anyone who bought the first wave, is there any hardware problems you notice? I heard alot about the screen popping out a little

Buy one ASAP! The best tablet on the market right now. Can't best the price point and the power you get(Tegra3). Plus its running jelllybean. Then if you into rooting, unlocking, flashing custom roms & kernels, then nexus 7 is where its at. Android tablet scene doesn't get any hotter/more popular than nexus7 right now. Battery life great also. IT has a great display and very light.
Stop the contimplating. GET IT NOW! lol

I am comparing the nexus7 and samsung galaxy 7.7(P6810), seems P6810 has good monitor and size(7.7 inch ) and nexus7 has better CPU and stock JB OS. Could anyone tell me which one is better?

rankman2004 said:
I am comparing the nexus7 and samsung galaxy 7.7(P6810), seems P6810 has good monitor and size(7.7 inch ) and nexus7 has better CPU and stock JB OS. Could anyone tell me which one is better?
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Nexus 7 better all around. Plus for the price, the 7.7 not worth it compared to what you getting with the nexus 7. Nexus 7 has a great display also. It may not be Amoled but its high quality ips with 720p resolution and the colors won't be oversaturated and cartoonish looking like on Amoled. Pound for pound, nothing beats the nexus 7. Especially another tablet in similar size range. Nothing comes close. Nexus7 leads all the benchmarks right now. Plus we have sick developement. All the best custom roms and kernels. All the hard hitting developers have one and developing for nexus 7. Or if not, they already said they planning on it.

well, when ipad2 and 3 came out, plenty of problems, battery, eat, screen ....
second batch is corrected.
so if you buy it now, i think u will get a second batch, people getting model in july, got less lucky, i think models coming in august and beyond will have a better rate of non defective units.
view the number of defectives units reported by asus, they have figured out what to look at before units go into their box.
stil li think there is less 1% chance that your item got some defects. view the millions already sold, and people telling to purchase it with blind eyes.

Well i was looking at getting one but wanted to sell my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 first. But after getting to see it today and mess with it some i came straight home and got on the play store and ordered one. Can't wait until it gets here, i guess in the mean time i will just have to try and sell my other tablet. Haha.

Very nice device. It makes an excellent e-reader which pretty much was the difference for me.

How many find the Nexus 7 almost perfect

I just wonder how many of the negative stories are really true or real issues or just posts from flamers trying to discredit the Nexus 7. I have had my unit for almost 2 weeks and fail to find any of the problems listed. Too bad there is really no way to find out if these people (posters) really own the Nexus 7 or not. Totally enjoying my Nexus 7 and sorry to report the tablet is almost as perfect as an Android tablet can be for the PRICE.

How do we know you really have one and aren't just trying to balance the narrative? Exactly. There is no way to "know". Either you believe the poster, or you don't. I personally will not tolerate any defects, which is why I haven't purchased one yet.

So most of the people that are reporting issues are doing so to bash the device or are trolling? Because your device doesn't have a flaw....
Lay off the kool aid. The devices had problems.

I find my Nexus 7 perfect for my needs.
As an ex-iOS and general Apple fanboy I decided to buy a Galaxy S3 and more recently a Nexus 7. Admittedly the 'immediate' user experience is not as polished as iOS but after using both devices I have to say I prefer the ecosystem of Android.
Anyway, back to the question; yes, my Nexus 7 is great. To be honest my screen does also suffer, like many others, from being a little loose. But it is hardly noticeable and doesn't bother me.

Only issue I have is touchscreen problem sometimes. Putting the device to sleep and then waking it up again (with power button) solves it though.
Still, at times it gets annoying.

Zero issues with mine aside from the seemingly undersaturated colors, quite happy with it overall.
As a GNote user I'm really tempted by the Note 10.1 but I can't see myself finding the 10" as convenient as the 7" for my needs.
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Yes, my Nexus 7, seems fine, certainly haven't discoverd any defects yet, sometimes, it seems WiFi sort of frezzes, then will start again, probably nothing, as, my Sony S tablet did it, only a lot worse, a lot worse!
I certainly prefer it to my now sold Sony S tablet, OK no LED indication, one speaker, limited to 16Gb, no SD slot, but, its smooth, just the right size to hold in one hand, and, no judder at all, and, for the price, excellent (so far!)
Happy bunny with the Nexus 7 here....................

No problems with Nexus 7
I have now had mine for a week, and it seems free of fault. No dead pixels, nothing loose. Screen brightness OK, sound loud enough for me. For the money (£199 from PC World) and given the limitations imposed by Google (no front camera, speakers on the back, no flash in Jelly Bean) it does what it is supposed to do very well. If it would tether to my phone, I would be very happy indeed.

Nexus 7
I have had mine for three weeks and everything is working as advertised. Very satisfied.

I have had 2 Nexus 7's for 3 weeks and absolutely zero problems. Had a TF101 and I find this size a perfect gaming tablet compared to a 10 inch.

Had mine since Saturday and can't really complain. I've owned 5 other Android tablets and 8 different Android phones. I'm being utterly honest when I say that this thing has the worst build quality that I've ever seen. Yes I'm talking about the screen lifting. While its actually quite minor it severely detracts from what is otherwise an amazing device especially for the dollars. It makes the nexus 7 feel like a freely piece of crap. The worst thing about it is that it would be quite easy to fix the defect. Hopefully future production runs will sort it out.
Other than that annoying issue, which doesn't actually annoy me that much, I love this device to pieces. Its fast, has a nice display, is very portable, and it's a nexus device so it gets updates super quick and of course is shaping up to have an awesome development community.
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I love mine and haven't had any issues since receiving it. I couldn't of imagined it being any better than it is. I do understand why people have gotten frustrated with defective devices cuz I would have too...
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The only problem i have with the N7 is getting it off the kids

Same here, 3 weeks with my N7 and its perfect, yesterday I rebooted for the fisrt time just for testing.. and keeps running great!

memory
Got the 8gb as the 16gb was sold out wish I would of held out for the 16gb so I could import my music and maybe have a few large memory games on device

have c60K no problems at all, no screen lift, wasnt sure about the screen flickering, i didnt notice anything but I got the Lux app just in case

I had a SGT7 prior to the Nexus 7. I kinda miss the rear camera, and the ability to use a SD card (although to be fair, I never really came close to filling 16GB, but I have a 8GB N7), but overall I'm pretty happy with it
My device came with no flaws also it would seem.

jolson23 said:
I just wonder how many of the negative stories are really true or real issues or just posts from flamers trying to discredit the Nexus 7. I have had my unit for almost 2 weeks and fail to find any of the problems listed. Too bad there is really no way to find out if these people (posters) really own the Nexus 7 or not.
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I've had zero problems with mine, but accusing people who are reporting difficulties of trolling is really not constructive or in the spirit of xda.

I've also had zero problems with build quality or functionality. Just got the Moco case, which works great for me. I love the size. The easy to change font size and clarity of the Play Books screen is awesome.

Had mine about two weeks. Rooted and tested Stickmount. Tested mouse and keyboard via USB and Bluetooth.
I didn't like the size of the Ipad so I sold it and bought the N 7, and have had zero problems.
Satisfied .
I have a lot to learn about Android..!

should i get the 16gb nexus or a 64gb BlackBerry playbook

Here's the deal...
In the UK the 64gb playbook is going for £129 and I can get a 16gb nexus 7 for around £165...
I'm not giving to be using the nexus as a gaming device as I will be getting a note 2... I will be using it for general browsing online and YouTube etc.. as well as putting photos on it. So what I'm asking is which has better build quality, and I've heard the screen quality is really good on the playbook. Also want about loading on Android.

Whats a blackberry?
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I would go with the n7, but I am biased.
I just overclocked to 1.7 ghz and saw the benchmark.
My search for tablet superiority is over.
With cloud storage I do not need more than 16gb's

podface said:
Here's the deal...
In the UK the 64gb playbook is going for £129 and I can get a 16gb nexus 7 for around £165...
I'm not giving to be using the nexus as a gaming device as I will be getting a note 2... I will be using it for general browsing online and YouTube etc.. as well as putting photos on it. So what I'm asking is which has better build quality, and I've heard the screen quality is really good on the playbook. Also want about loading on Android.
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I just got the nexus today after ditching my playbook. Don't do it, playbook is a laggy, non functional mess without any apps to support it.
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shook187 said:
Whats a blackberry?
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Exactly. No apps, no eco system, no developer support and an end of life OS. The Nexus 7 is a no brainer
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The playbook has no apps to choose from, is an extremely sluggish device with absolutely no development. Plus RIM is a sinking ship, you would be shooting yourself in the foot to choose a Playbook over the Nexus 7.

josephislee said:
I just got the nexus today after ditching my playbook. Don't do it, playbook is a laggy, non functional mess without any apps to support it.
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That was my experience as well. The only thing the Playbook really has over the Nexus is build quality
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Devhux said:
That was my experience as well. The only thing the Playbook really has over the Nexus is build quality
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I can't even give that to rim, the whole device was sub par and yes I owned one.
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It won't ever get any updates!
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Thanks guys will be getting a nexus 7 then
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podface said:
Thanks guys will be getting a nexus 7 then
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for photos use droidiris it rocks!!!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsIm9yZy5kcm9pZGlyaXMucGx1cyJd

It's a no brainer. The whole Blackberry ecosystem is almost as dead as Windows Phone.
It's really only a two horse race, iOS and Android. Anything else and you are flushing money down the pan.

This is quite an amusing thread for me.
Started with an ASUS Transformer Prime - buggy OS, kept crashing, very slow browsing with broken flash support. The device rebooted by itself.
Moved to an iPad 3. Worked perfectly, crashed once in 3 months, but I found it boring, overweight and uncomfortable to hold.
Moved to a Nexus 7. It died completely within 12 hours of purchase. On top of that, awful build quality - screen separation. Took me SIX WEEKS to finally get my refund from Google Play Store.
Noticed the Blackberry Playbook for 129 so gave it a go. Had it for a month now, and absolutely love it. My favorite tablet to date.
* Build quality is miles, miles better than Nexus 7. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional - the Nexus 7, in terms of materials, is CHEAP as it was built for an entirely different price point.
* Screen is lower resolution but the picture quality is far superior
* Blackberry OS has yet to crash once
* Flash support is best I've ever seen on a tablet. iPlayer works beautifully in HD from the BBC web site
* 64GB vs 8GB/16GB - no contest
* Sits on my Windows Workgroup wirelessly. I can drag and drop videos/anything else straight onto it from my Windows desktop and it doesn't need to be plugged in
* Good video codec support and great video player
* web browser is normally very fast
* Camera that records 1080p video and looks GREAT. Pictures are also very good - way, way better than Nexus 7's crappy little camera.
* Front facing stereo speakers that sound far better than Nexus 7's and aren't obstructed by hands.
The only cons to the Playbook, really, are the lack of apps. But to be perfectly honest, I found all the Android apps utter rubbish on a tablet. Most are designed for phones. Providing you primarily use it for what comes with it, it's a substantially better tablet than the Nexus 7 overall in my view.
My wife agrees and is about to buy one herself.

Deckard79 said:
This is quite an amusing thread for me.
Started with an ASUS Transformer Prime - buggy OS, kept crashing, very slow browsing with broken flash support. The device rebooted by itself.
Moved to an iPad 3. Worked perfectly, crashed once in 3 months, but I found it boring, overweight and uncomfortable to hold.
Moved to a Nexus 7. It died completely within 12 hours of purchase. On top of that, awful build quality - screen separation. Took me SIX WEEKS to finally get my refund from Google Play Store.
Noticed the Blackberry Playbook for 129 so gave it a go. Had it for a month now, and absolutely love it. My favorite tablet to date.
* Build quality is miles, miles better than Nexus 7. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional - the Nexus 7, in terms of materials, is CHEAP as it was built for an entirely different price point.
* Screen is lower resolution but the picture quality is far superior
* Blackberry OS has yet to crash once
* Flash support is best I've ever seen on a tablet. iPlayer works beautifully in HD from the BBC web site
* 64GB vs 8GB/16GB - no contest
* Sits on my Windows Workgroup wirelessly. I can drag and drop videos/anything else straight onto it from my Windows desktop and it doesn't need to be plugged in
* Good video codec support and great video player
* web browser is normally very fast
* Camera that records 1080p video and looks GREAT. Pictures are also very good - way, way better than Nexus 7's crappy little camera.
* Front facing stereo speakers that sound far better than Nexus 7's and aren't obstructed by hands.
The only cons to the Playbook, really, are the lack of apps. But to be perfectly honest, I found all the Android apps utter rubbish on a tablet. Most are designed for phones. Providing you primarily use it for what comes with it, it's a substantially better tablet than the Nexus 7 overall in my view.
My wife agrees and is about to buy one herself.
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Well youre obviously missing something, as you haven't had a nexus 7 for months and are still hanging around the forums. What does your wife think about that?
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Was this a serious thread? I live in Canada and wouldn't give any stock in relying on RIM being around for the length of the warranty time frame. The few people I know who have a play book like it Ok because of the price and they sync their phone to it, that is the only way to have BBM(The only thing RIM has going for them still imo).
Sent from the third Galaxy on the left.

nooomoto said:
Well youre obviously missing something, as you haven't had a nexus 7 for months and are still hanging around the forums. What does your wife think about that?
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I'm on the forum showing an interest in the ever-expanding Nexus 7 fault thread at the top of this sub forum! As someone interested in the tablet market, what's wrong with that?
Of course I haven't had one for months - it broke within 1 day.
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Was this a serious thread? I live in Canada and wouldn't give any stock in relying on RIM being around for the length of the warranty time frame. The few people I know who have a play book like it Ok because of the price and they sync their phone to it, that is the only way to have BBM(The only thing RIM has going for them still imo).
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Considering the price, of course it's a serious thread. Why wouldn't it be?
As for the length of the warranty, this is of little importance to me since a tablet is the sort of thing you're likely to upgrade every year or so anyway.
I didn't buy it to be future-proof, as there's no point given the average upgrade cycle. I bought it because what it does now it does very well, and I suspect this is why your friends use it, too.
Look at my list of pros and tell me where I've gone wrong.
By all means, if the Nexus 7 is well built and reliable, that's fine. I would have stuck with mine had it been. But from day 1, it clearly was not and I think thousands of others have had a similar experience. My point is that the choice is not as clear-cut as some on here like to make out.

5 Reasons to buy a Nexus 7!
Perfect Size (7')
Android Customization
The Price Feels Right
Widgets Are In Their Element
Android's Evolution (Nexus Series)

Considering the price, of course it's a serious thread. Why wouldn't it be?
As for the length of the warranty, this is of little importance to me since a tablet is the sort of thing you're likely to upgrade every year or so anyway.
I didn't buy it to be future-proof, as there's no point given the average upgrade cycle. I bought it because what it does now it does very well, and I suspect this is why your friends use it, too.
Look at my list of pros and tell me where I've gone wrong.
By all means, if the Nexus 7 is well built and reliable, that's fine. I would have stuck with mine had it been. But from day 1, it clearly was not and I think thousands of others have had a similar experience. My point is that the choice is not as clear-cut as some on here like to make out.
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Interesting. Nexus 7 is my first tablet. Seems a little weak on build quality but I have had none of the serious problems others have (touch wood) to this point. I absolutely love it and I thought it was pretty reasonably priced for what it does. A colleague of mine got a Playbook a year or so ago and couldn't stop talking about how great it was. I actually got tired of hearing it. Sadly over the last year or so he has swung the other way and now seems to do a lot of moaning about lack of apps, support and upgrades, development community and so on. He will still defend its build quality but that's about it.
Do you really think most people will upgrade tablets yearly? I don't even get a new phone unless someone gives me a used one that's better than my current one. I guess I'm in the minority.

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Interesting. Nexus 7 is my first tablet. Seems a little weak on build quality but I have had none of the serious problems others have (touch wood) to this point. I absolutely love it and I thought it was pretty reasonably priced for what it does. A colleague of mine got a Playbook a year or so ago and couldn't stop talking about how great it was. I actually got tired of hearing it. Sadly over the last year or so he has swung the other way and now seems to do a lot of moaning about lack of apps, support and upgrades, development community and so on. He will still defend its build quality but that's about it.
Do you really think most people will upgrade tablets yearly? I don't even get a new phone unless someone gives me a used one that's better than my current one. I guess I'm in the minority.
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Perhaps you aren't in the minority - I'm something of a tech geek, so I like buying new gadgets and trying them out. With the Playbook, I'd JUST gotten my refund from Google and read somewhere about the huge discount on the 64GB Playbook (129 pounds UK, vs 170 inc. delivery for the Nexus 7). I just thought 'what the hell' at that price point, and went for it. Also, I knew I'd easily get a refund since I was buying direct from a high street store.
I use a tablet for:
* Checking email
* Browsing the web on the sofa
* Youtube/BBC iPlayer/other streaming video
* watching movies when travelling
* showing photos and videos to friends (yes, I'm one of those annoying people who enthusiastically shows photos of my baby to others)
* catching up on news via RSS feeds
I don't generally buy anything from app stores (be it Apple, Google Play or Blackberry's) since I never really see anything worthwhile. If I want to do serious work, or play a game, my desktop pc/media pc do these way better than any tablet. I also see no reason paying for lossy MP3 music when cds are cheaper and sound better, or paying for lossy, DRM/streamed movies on an app store where DVDs/Blu Rays are higher quality and can simply be ripped to my tablet.
Maybe I'm in the minority?
Either way, the Playbook does all of this stuff beautifully. I'd never, ever swap it for a Nexus 7.

Flexibility, power, freedom are few options I get from Android...so no way to any other OS...
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Best Alternative to N10?

I really wanted to get the N10, I really did. But Google just had to **** it up with their terrible customer service and a ****ty checkout system that spews out errors every single time. I'm done waiting around, so now looking for an alternative, any suggestions/recommendations?
I'm more of an Android fan obv.
TIA.
UPDATE: I ordered mines after a few e-mails with Google. Got the beast. It's amazing!

Ordering from Google was a piece of cake for me. I ordered it on a Saturday, got it that Thursday (Lexington, KY to Los Angeles). But I've never had to deal with their Support, so I'll take your word on that.
Having said that, I honestly don't think you'll find another tab that compares with the N10, but I love mine so much I'm hardly objective. I believe if you persevere with Google you'll thank yourself down the road.
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Their support is basically "read the online help sections!!!!".
Anyway, I got this email just now from Google:
"Hello,
During a recent review of your Google Checkout account, we were unable to
verify your information.
As a result, your account has been temporarily suspended and you will be
unable to place orders. In order to resolve this situation, please provide
us with the requested information of MR XXXX
within 3 business days by filling out this form"
Um, I have been buying apps with this account for a long time now. What gives?

You got me, bud. If it's a credit card issue, maybe your card company can help. Sometimes when your billing address isn't *exactly* as it's written on your statement it can cause problems. But if you've been been using the same card all along, that's probably not it. I know because of the expense of the tab, my card company called me to confirm I had placed the order before they would authorize it. Maybe that has something to do with it.
I would tell you to buy from Amazon, but the last I checked, their pricing was higher.
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The best alternative right now is IMO is the Kindle HD 8.9, but it is much more difficult to root and all that. If you wait a few more months other companies will have powerful tablets out with new processors and probably high res screens.

You could buy the nexus at retail too? I almost got the Samsung note 10.1 myself. Its screen isn't as nice and I would miss a few other things like the front facing speakers. But the note has the stylus and doesn't have the habit of rebooting unexpectedly either.
Aren't you going to have to straighten out Google's credit card issue in order to buy apps in the future anyway?
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sendbeer said:
You could buy the nexus at retail too? I almost got the Samsung note 10.1 myself. Its screen isn't as nice and I would miss a few other things like the front facing speakers. But the note has the stylus and doesn't have the habit of rebooting unexpectedly either.
Aren't you going to have to straighten out Google's credit card issue in order to buy apps in the future anyway?
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The note also has front facing speakers. The shape is very similar to the n10. Major difference is the note has a plastic feel to it and in my opinion doesn't feel as solid as the n10.
Also the note does not suffer from light bleed bit you're right, the screen is not as nice!
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sendbeer said:
You could buy the nexus at retail too? I almost got the Samsung note 10.1 myself. Its screen isn't as nice and I would miss a few other things like the front facing speakers. But the note has the stylus and doesn't have the habit of rebooting unexpectedly either.
Aren't you going to have to straighten out Google's credit card issue in order to buy apps in the future anyway?
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I'm in UK, and I don't think any retails sell the N10. I would have bought from Amazon but they are £100 more dearer and eBay prices are just insane - in comparison to Google's price tag.
The main reason why I want the N10 is for the screen. I'm a picky prick when it comes to screen resolution. Is light bleed a huge deal on these devices?
I've sent Google the docs they asked for anyway.

01alim said:
I'm in UK, and I don't think any retails sell the N10. I would have bought from Amazon but they are £100 more dearer and eBay prices are just insane - in comparison to Google's price tag.
The main reason why I want the N10 is for the screen. I'm a picky prick when it comes to screen resolution. Is light bleed a huge deal on these devices?
I've sent Google the docs they asked for anyway.
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Only alternative that ccould match up with the n10 is going to the the Sony Xperia Tablet Z but you will have to wait another month or two. It may actually be a little faster than the n10 as well.
There has been a lot of complaints regarding light bleed but personally it wasn't an issue. Sure I can see some slight paleness on 2 sides in the dark at max brightness but in regular light using auto-brightness I don't see it on a dark screen. And quite frankly I would never have even noticed if it hadn't been for the notorious thread here. LOL

Best alternative its to wait for a new product... Nexus 10 II ... Maybe these guys from google will solve issues with battery life and with charging time.. Its a shame that you have almost perfect configuration but unable to use because of not enough juice. Not a complete satisfaction and this make you angry and tired to be dissapointed. Good luck
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samwheat said:
Best alternative its to wait for a new product... Nexus 10 II ... Maybe these guys from google will solve issues with battery life and with charging time.. Its a shame that you have almost perfect configuration but unable to use because of not enough juice. Not a complete satisfaction and this make you angry and tired to be dissapointed. Good luck
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I wasn't planning on taking the tablet outside much, Used for indoors mostly, so when not in use would be charging. How 'bad' is the battery life like?

Get the galaxy note 10.1. It's a beast at multitasking!
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There are various experience with the battery... I dont know where its the problem. I tired all the variants. Kernels rom.. Brightness etc but i cant get more of 5 hours screen on ( normal use)
I realized the problem imediatly after ive got the tablet.. 3 hours at that time from 100 % to 0 %... After few cycles ive got 5 hours but after more cycles she remained at this average. I can not do a RMA anymore. Mine doesn't have screen bleeding. Maybe you will have luck to find one with battery and screen ok. By the way, the screen its nice but not so amasing . No deep Black make sometimes screen look cheap LCD. And so what its grate for some if they almost all keep it like 30% for keep the battery alive more. Sorry for my english
Anyway the main reason i like it its because it rolls android... And have a good cpu... Besides this horror customer care from google. No original accesorie yet after months from launch... That is not the way i hoped from a monster like google and Samsung.
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Samsung note 10.1
I think this tablet is the best alternative right now, because color reproduction is more vibrant then the N10. Black is deep, other main color like red,blue,and green look much more attractive to the eyes beside from the true multitasking. ( That's why I return N10 for the note 10.1). The screen isn't that sharp compare to the N10 but it isn't that bad. (If you use the tab at a right distance, then you won't notice the pixels). Color and the true multi screens, and S-pen are a plus for the Note 10.1. In my opinion, It is the best tab since I already used the Asus transformer prime, Microsoft Surface, Nexus 10. Sorry about my English and I hope this help you.

Even my HTC desire 2.5 years old amoled display it has deeper black than n10. Don t be so overexcited. Let the big companies that already have the next 10 year tehnology deliver to us the goods faster instead of asking 500 dollars on a product that has so many anoing insuficiences.
We need a little small official pogo cable for 4 months guys... Wtf.. And Its not ready yet... This is a nice comedy with us playing in ...
I was having also Asus infinity - laggy as hell like an old 94 computer... I give it back în hope that master google give us something for 2013. Flowless device ... I was so wrong
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samwheat said:
Even my HTC desire 2.5 years old amoled display it has deeper black than n10.
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An amoled will ALWAYS have better blacks then an LCD. Its the nature if the display. Blacks on an Amoled are pixels that are turned off, whereas an LCD panel reproduces blacks while lit. Produced blacks (amoled) > Reproduced blacks (LCD). The trade off is worse battery life, inaccurate (but over saturated, which people love) colors, and mostly god awful whites.
The Nexus 10 is a fabulous tablet. It has its issues, they all do. But for a power user like myself, there isn't even a competition. I cannot use a Touchwiz device, and ASUS burned their bridge with me over the Nexus 7. (EMMC issues, build quality nonexistent). Sony is a true competitor but I cannot stand around for months waiting for a company to issue an update. Developers are great, and porting AOSP and CM are good in general, but they have issues and most of the time the cons outweigh the pros and I have to fall back to a stock based system. To each their own though, there is not a "One tablet fits all", even the iPad isn't perfect. I couldn't get past the Apple wall, and 4:3 aspect ratio
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Even my HTC desire 2.5 years old amoled display it has deeper black than n10. Don t be so overexcited. Let the big companies that already have the next 10 year tehnology deliver to us the goods faster instead of asking 500 dollars on a product that has so many anoing insuficiences.
We need a little small official pogo cable for 4 months guys... Wtf.. And Its not ready yet... This is a nice comedy with us playing in ...
I was having also Asus infinity - laggy as hell like an old 94 computer... I give it back în hope that master google give us something for 2013. Flowless device ... I was so wrong
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Amoled screens have an infinite contrast ratio, your HTC Desire will have deeper blacks the an any single non amoled device out there, put it next to an iPhone, a Nexus 4, a Droid DNA and the result will be the same.
The black levels could be better here, I won't deny that.

Wait for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 3. It's rumored to have a high resolution screen like the Nexus 10. Hopefully one with deeper blacks and punchier colours though.
Hopefully it will be announced on the 14th of March with the SGS4.

Just curious...is the Nook HD+ with Cyanogen worth a look? It's a bit bare-bones compared to the N10 (no BT, no camera) but otherwise, it seemed like a good value @ $269. From what I can tell, you can even buy an N2A card to make the transition to CM painless.
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If you don't need Android... The iPad 4 is a decent enough alternative. Slightly heavier, thicker and lower resolution screen. They are on sometimes on sale too.
In android world... If not the nexus... Maybe the new Asus Memo. It's a 300 tegra 3 tablet... SD and it looks like Asus fixed the memory. If not the nexus, I'd honestly wait because a whole new generation of processors are coming.
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[Q] Nexus 4 - Am I making a mistake?

I am an avid fan of the Samsung S series of phones. I've had a few and to date think the S3 is the best they've done so far (S4 notwithstanding). But, I love the Google Nexus series of phones and have owned one, the Samsung Galaxy Nexus. I purchased the Nexus 4 on Saturday from Google and I cannot wait to get it. I love the bareness of the Nexus line. I love Android in its stock form. Thing is, I'm going from one of the best selling phones to a midlevel device. Am I making a mistake doing this? What am I loosing? Currently, we do have LTE in our area but it's sucking the heck out of my battery on the S3 so I'm not concerned if the N4 has no LTE. Am I gaining anything from going to the N4? Is the camera good enough? What about the sound on it - it sucked moose butt on the SGN!
I'm hoping for some comments and opinions that will help me in evaluating this latest purchase and what to expect. Thanks guys:good:

Mid-level? You do realize a quad core chip and 2gb of ram make this a high-level device as for lte I personally don't use it and camera is better then the galaxy nexus but isn't the best obviously for the price speakers do fine as well
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Wait until the 15th this month, there is a revised Nexus 4 to be released that should support full LTE, 32 GB of storage and maybe other upgrades. For the current one i`am very happy with it, the camera is a bit less than in the S3, but the cpu and gpu are much better. The screen is fantastic, bright, crisp and a good vieuwing angles. For me it is an upgrade compared to the S3 or even the S4 (wich i`am gona skip for sure). The N4 has no bloatware and great development. And for a very good price.
BTW the N4 is not mid level

Crap...I shoulda waited. I forgot about the LTE version coming out! Oh wells...it's already paid for. Has LG stepped it up on the Nexus line? I've never been a fan of them but in my opinion, Google wouldn't brand their phone if it wasn't any good. As good as the S3 is, it feels slow opening stuff sometimes even with a fresh factory refresh. It's got some good internals so it makes no sense why it does this...this always bugged me. It wasn't a deal breaker as the camera on this phone is sick! Great picture quality on it.

can6rxw said:
Crap...I shoulda waited. I forgot about the LTE version coming out! Oh wells...it's already paid for. Has LG stepped it up on the Nexus line? I've never been a fan of them but in my opinion, Google wouldn't brand their phone if it wasn't any good. As good as the S3 is, it feels slow opening stuff sometimes even with a fresh factory refresh. It's got some good internals so it makes no sense why it does this...this always bugged me. It wasn't a deal breaker as the camera on this phone is sick! Great picture quality on it.
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The internal storage of the Galaxy S4 is 16GB and 7GB is for the OS and lots and lots of gimmicks/bloatware/crap. 9GB available for the user We on the N4 have about 13GB left.

I don't think branding the N4 as a mid level device is correct or at least in my opinion. Perhaps it's the price tag that makes it "mid level" or whatever the reason is, the Nexus 4 is more of a high end device for cheap.
I bought a brand new GS3 from a friend a few weeks ago and I don't like it anymore. It was a good idea I didn't get it last year when it came out. I'm gonna sell it...
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Yeah, the N4 is a high-end phone for a mid-range price. Absolute bargain.
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Its odd the “mid range" stigma that's put on the N4 by average consumer, even here at xda. I've seen hundreds of post from various forums or sites in the comments with people calling it that and ironically they are Galaxy users who usually say things like this poster also did about the UI being sluggish while confidently calling the S a high end device lol. OP glad you got the N4, you'll be more than satisfied I believe, you'll read a bunch of complaints on here, but like absolutely any other phone available if you read enough threads on here people will have funky devices or just nit picky problems. UI is awesome, storage is pretty sufficient, OS barely uses any space, I have probably 1000 pics, 30 albums and maybe 50 apps including CSR Racing which is large and have about 4.5gigs free. Lacking LTE maybe an issue for some, but honestly I think it becomes a feature option issue for most, the inability to claim LTE rights amongst other phone users lol, I'm on T-Mobile and live in Philadelphia, my data is always fast, in most real world scenarios as fast as my boys DNA, and as fast as my brother in laws S3 on AT&T. Camera is another issue for some, not for others, look on the pic from n4 thread, when you work at it, the phone is capable of taking some amazing shots, on the fly pull your phone out and snap can be hit or miss but why some people expect or even need their phone to be art gallery worthy pics I don't know lol. Speaker, is well a speaker, I can hear when I need to, but all this talk of the HTC having "boom" sound and dual speakers for what? If I wanna host a mini rave with my phone? Lol I just don't see the real world use for it. Summing it up, everyone that has touched my N4 since I got it, users of iPhone, S phones and even my cousin who still won't let BlackBerry die has loved this phone after spending as little as 10 minutes with it. Feels great in the hand, UI is always snappy, screen is crisp.
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Great replies everyone...thank you. I've read a lot of reviews and such and most of them calls the N4 a midrange phone. In my opinion, they do it based on the price and public (uninformed) preception. I used the same phrase here based on these although loving stock android like I do, I'd be calling it high end. The Camera for me is a nice addition because working as a tech for UPS, I travel around some and get to see the sights along the way. In doing so, it's nice to have a quality camera onhand to take some pictures of where I've been. I don't always take a "camera" as I travel light so having a quality one with me is very handy, which is why I ask what the quality is on the N4. I've read a lot on XDA and seen some pics and it is hit and miss from what I see but a definate upgrage from the SGN.
I've read a lot about the back breaking/cracking. I'm thinking it's a good idea to get a sheild for the back at least. I've never been a fan of putting one on the front as I like the smooth feeling while sliding/swyping.

can6rxw said:
Great replies everyone...thank you. I've read a lot of reviews and such and most of them calls the N4 a midrange phone. In my opinion, they do it based on the price and public (uninformed) preception. I used the same phrase here based on these although loving stock android like I do, I'd be calling it high end. The Camera for me is a nice addition because working as a tech for UPS, I travel around some and get to see the sights along the way. In doing so, it's nice to have a quality camera onhand to take some pictures of where I've been. I don't always take a "camera" as I travel light so having a quality one with me is very handy, which is why I ask what the quality is on the N4. I've read a lot on XDA and seen some pics and it is hit and miss from what I see but a definate upgrage from the SGN.
I've read a lot about the back breaking/cracking. I'm thinking it's a good idea to get a sheild for the back at least. I've never been a fan of putting one on the front as I like the smooth feeling while sliding/swyping.
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I'd agree with putting on a back glass protector. If anything the Nexus is a more high-end phone than the S3 tbh, the S4 Pro trumps the Exynos; 2GB RAM > 1, the screen is at a higher resolution and the build feels more premium than the S3. The only reason it's sometimes called a mid range phone is because of the price. There also seems to be a lot of hate for it on the internet though, which is odd because everyone I know who has one likes it. I think that it's only because loads of people wanted one but had huge delays when ordering it.

A case will provide more protection than a back protector.
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Slim but tough is what I'd want in a case. Know which is best?

scream4cheese said:
A case will provide more protection than a back protector.
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True, but I want the back exposed for a little bit.

can6rxw said:
True, but I want the back exposed for a little bit.
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Then take the Rearth Ringke Fusion Case. Have it myself and i think its great. Not bulky, good grip and protection and clear back.

gee2012 said:
Then take the Rearth Ringke Fusion Case. Have it myself and i think its great. Not bulky, good grip and protection and clear back.
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I have that case. As a matter of fact I have so many cases for this phone that I only use my diztronic case. Lol.

scream4cheese said:
I have that case. As a matter of fact I have so many cases for this phone that I only use my diztronic case. Lol.
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There`s not much choice in cases for the N4 in the Netherlands and ordered it in the UK. Do you have the XDA case also?

gee2012 said:
There`s not much choice in cases for the N4 in the Netherlands and ordered it in the UK. Do you have the XDA case also?
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I don't have the XDA case. I don't like the color and design.
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True, but I want the back exposed for a little bit.
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If you want the rearth ringke fusion case I can give it to you for free if you live in the U.S. I don't need it. It's just sitting in my desk drawer not being used.
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Just because a gs3/4 is over $500 doesn't make it a high end device, calling the nexus 4 a mid range device is ignorance, and yes the nexus 4 beats both
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androidfoshizzle said:
Just because a gs3/4 is over $500 doesn't make it a high end device, calling the nexus 4 a mid range device is ignorance, and yes the nexus 4 beats both
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The S4 is 850-900 USD in the Netherlands off contract

androidfoshizzle said:
Just because a gs3/4 is over $500 doesn't make it a high end device, calling the nexus 4 a mid range device is ignorance, and yes the nexus 4 beats both
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Well either way the S3/S4 are high-end devices. I doubt the Nexus 4 beats the both devices. The S4 has a newer CPU and it's software features are awesome in my opinion.
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