Hello. I'm sorry if I write this kind of questions, I know it annoys if it's already been asked, but I swear to you I looked *everywhere* and couldn't find a precise answer.
I'm coming from an iphone, and the sgs is my first android phone. Obviously I jailbroke my iphone on day 3, and I would like to keep the same tradition rooting my new phone today. The thing it's keeping me from doing it is warranty-related: on my iphone I knew that if one day I had to send it to apple (like for a broken wifi chipset), I could just connect it to my computer, hit the "restore" button and I was good to go. Now the question is: is the same also true for the sgs? Can I just plug it in with kies and restore it to factory settings?? Or with odin? I know about the samsung-firmwares website...does it provide truly *stock* firmwares without root? So that if I send the phone to samsung for repair it is *impossible* for them to see that my phone is-was rooted??
I also have a second question concerning these problems: why does rooting avoid your warranty?? Seriously, I can understand why apple doesn't want you to jailbreak your device...it's a double money loss for them. Either because you crack apps without buying them and/or because you use another "appstore" where you buy apps without giving them a cent...
But google I really can't understand: it's an open os, you can use other appstores right in your device (I read this info, but in fact apart from the samsung one, I've never seen alternative stores...), heck, you can also crack applications right in your device without rooting it!
So really, WHY?!?
I just wanted to root because of titanium backup. When I bought the phone I started playing with it for a while, downloaded some apps, changed some settings, tuned my homescreen, etc. Then I rebooted into windows to use kies and upgrade the firmware...and I found the horrible news: I had to do everything back from scratch. Now, that is something (coming from an iphone) that I find really disturbing. And then I read about titanium backup pro...but you need root. Seriously, why should that be something that avoids my warranty?!? Can someone explain this to me?
Hey guys I need some advice on what to do with my Nexus 4 - I had it for less than a week when it slid right onto the kitchen tiles, and as a result I have an unrooted Nexus 4 with developer options disabled, a pattern screen lock and a completely smashed and unresponsive touch screen.
I don't want to fix the screen if I can help it as I would just end up selling it and would basically break even on just the repairs.
From my current position is there any way to get the phone functional in terms of being able to use a keyboard and mouse with it, perhaps as a server or some other capacity like that?
Please list any and all ideas of how you would proceed from here, from the research I've done it seems as though I'm severely limited by the fact I can't change certain settings without the touchscreen working (Such as getting OTG working)
PS. I don't care about getting data back, just want to be able to use the phone in some way so it's not a complete loss, if possible!
GrombleTromble said:
Hey guys I need some advice on what to do with my Nexus 4 - I had it for less than a week then I thought it would be fun to drop it on the kitchen tiles, and as a result I have an unrooted Nexus 4 with developer options disabled, a pattern screen lock and a completely unresponsive touch screen.
I don't want to fix the screen if I can help it as I would just end up selling it and would basically break even on just the repairs.
From my current position is there any way to get the phone functional in terms of being able to use a keyboard and mouse with it, perhaps as a server or some other capacity like that?
Please list any and all ideas of how you would proceed from here, from the research I've done it seems as though I'm severely limited by the fact I can't change certain settings without the touchscreen working (Such as getting OTG working)
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I wonder how did u think of such S**t with this Lovely baby.
You had FUN! Now just pay the price for having fun with the unresponsive screen. Njoy.
Rohit :/ He didn't mean it literally. you are shame for us Indians..
OP - nexus 4 can't output enough power to use a keyboard or mouse.. Boot into recovery factory reset and flash a kernel that supports OTG. Then MAYBE with a Y-Cable you could connect a device to use.. though I doubt it.. Go to your nearest LG shop and repair it and BUY A CASE.
GrombleTromble;4178069..
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1.Cough up $150 to LG to fix it.
2. Read the return policy. In 2012, It stated you can "return the device for ANY reason within 14 days". In 2013, its been revised.
3. Sale it on amazon and ebay for $200-250.
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Holding Vol up + Vol Down + Power when off and then releasing power when you see the Lenovo logo will bring up a diagnostic checklist where you can test the hardware functionality.
Holding Vol Down + Power when off and then releasing power when you see the Lenovo logo I think goes to the bootloader, like below, but nothing indicates that this is what is happening.
Holding Vol up + Power when off and then releasing power when you see the Lenovo logo will bring up recovery. Recovery has the following options-
*Reboot system now
*Apply update from ADB
*Wipe data/factory reset
*Wipe Cache partition
*Reboot to Bootloader
*Power down
*View Recovery Logs
*Apply update from sdcard
Rebooting to bootloader caused the Lenovo logo screen to stay on. I assume that either this screen allows fastboot or that the bootloader is locked or hidden in some way? The driver that's installed when you plug it in here is the Alcatel ADB Interface driver. However, "adb devices" does not list the YT. Using the "Apply update from ADB option in recovery allows for it to be seen on the computer, but in "sideload" mode. Not sure where to go from there.
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While there are several posts for the Yoga Tab 3 Pro version, there has been no mention of this one yet. I picked up this 8" version in Best Buy this week and have been very impressed by the build quality of such an inexpensive tablet.
While it does look and function very similarly to the pro version, these are two completely different machines spec-wise. The complete specs for the YT3 can be found on GSM Arena's page, but it has a Snapdragon 210 quad with a Adreno 304 graphics chip and 1gb of RAM. Haven't checked the battery life, but Lenovo claims close to 20 hours of use! We'll see about that...
The skinning of the YT3 is very minimal (they are using Tribuchet as the default launcher!) but the settings are tweaked a bit and fill two columns on the screen.
One of my main reasons for creating this thread is to see if any others have this tablet yet. The other is to start the process of rooting it. While I don't see this being actively developed for, it would be nice to have root for things like Titanium Backup and the ability to remove the bloatware on it.
When you plug it into the computer, there are two devices that pop up in Windows. One is the MTP storage like usual, but the other is a virtual CDROM drive with Lenovo Helper software, which includes drivers for the tab.
Kingroot doesn't work I've tried.
Anyways its a great tablet.
I replaced my Samsung note 10.1 2014 with lenovo yoga tab 3 8"
I know its not an upgrade but I feel that this tablet suits my need more
I basically use this for watching movies and playing casual games like clash of clans.
Speed is okay doesn't really lag unlike my note 10.1 2014
Anypen works but theres no palm rejection
I found one problem so far. Can't seem to replace the trebuchet launcher.
After you restart the tab it sets trebuchet as the default launcher
Glen L said:
Anypen works but theres no palm rejection
I found one problem so far. Can't seem to replace the trebuchet launcher.
After you restart the tab it sets trebuchet as the default launcher
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Huh, just noticed the launcher thing too. I thought it might because of system updates (mine has updated twice since I got it this week). Not cool. And since there is no root yet, you can't remove Trebuchet.
I figured there would be no palm rejection. That is a feature that they would tout loudly if it had it.
Are you able to get fastboot commands to give you anything besides errors?
lenovo tab 3 pro
Hi Does anybody know when the lenovo tab 3 pro is getting released in the UK I just sold my iPad air 2 so can get it and cant bloody wait for itlol
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Huh, just noticed the launcher thing too. I thought it might because of system updates (mine has updated twice since I got it this week). Not cool. And since there is no root yet, you can't remove Trebuchet.
I figured there would be no palm rejection. That is a feature that they would tout loudly if it had it.
Are you able to get fastboot commands to give you anything besides errors?
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I solved my launcher problem....
I read that you have to wipe cache and dalvik, but since we're not rooted. I did a reset factory.
That way it cleared everything and now I can change the launchers...
Palm rejection im hoping that there's a software for it... for note taking
I dont know how to do fastboot commands
I have the Tab 3 10 inch version and I get days in battery life. I have not charged the tablet in over three days with moderate usage and I still have 51% battery and it estimates another 3 days of usage. I would like to see rooting and custom kernels eventually to solve some of the lag that the tablet does have. The memory management is a little over working, for example if I switch from Facebook to Skype it closes Facebook, I guess that's assuming that it does not have enough memory to keep it running in the background even though I open task manager and it's not using over half of its memory. I don't believe that this tablet will ever get palm rejection because the any pen feature that it has is just a souped-up digitizer that is more sensitive two inputs. There is no actual stylus detection on this as there is in the Samsung Galaxy Note series devices. It does not know the difference between your finger and using an ink pen or another stylus. My main complaint in which I will be exchanging the device for a new one is my hinge is loose on the camera side and wobbles.
Glen L said:
I solved my launcher problem....
I read that you have to wipe cache and dalvik, but since we're not rooted. I did a reset factory.
That way it cleared everything and now I can change the launchers...
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Cool! Great find, thanks for sharing. Of course I have everything set up now...
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I have the Tab 3 10 inch version and I get days in battery life. I have not charged the tablet in over three days with moderate usage and I still have 51% battery and it estimates another 3 days of usage. I would like to see rooting and custom kernels eventually to solve some of the lag that the tablet does have.
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I agree the battery life is insane. I have been reading comics on it for 4 hours of screen time and it still says I have a day and a half left at the current drain. Very happy to see that as this is replacing an ereader.
I noticed the aggressive task management too. It only has 1gb or RAM, but that shouldn't mean it clears out cache that quickly.
Rooting is priority one. I am not sure how to start that part, but drivers are first, and I don't think the ones that Lenovo includes with it allow for fastboot access.
I don't know that there was a pro model out and I'm thinking of going with that one since it has more power and a built in projector.
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Rooting is priority one. I am not sure how to start that part, but drivers are first, and I don't think the ones that Lenovo includes with it allow for fastboot access.
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Hey there. I posted something in another Tab 3 thread, but I think it was more for the Tab 3 Pro. It's a bit confusing right now cause there seems to be a lot of different SKUs for the same product name. Mine is the Lenovo Tab 3 10 - model YT3-X50F.
Anyway, I was able to get it into fastboot without any issues using the Lenovo drivers. The system I am using is pretty clean, so I don't think it would have come from another package I've used in the past. I think the next step is to build a TWRP recovery for our tab.
Here's what I wrote in the other thread:
My experience has been a little different so far. Just picked up the tablet today.
I toggled Allow OEM unlock and enabled debugging in Developer Options. I installed the Lenovo Suite software (which was really just a driver pack) then ran adb reboot bootloader to reboot. It got me to a Lenovo splash.
fastboot oem unlock didn't work for me. It gave me an error message:
Code:
fastboot oem unlock
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FAILED (remote: Need wipe userdata. Do 'fastboot oem unlock-go')
finished. total time: 0.005s
Running fastboot oem unlock-go worked immediately and the tablet rebooted to the typical Android factory wipe screen. Could be coincidental, but I got an OTA notice after I did the whole first-time Android setup. I denied the update, but copied down the update name: YT3-X50F_S000015_150917_ROW_TO_YT3-X50f_S000016_151002_ROW
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I toggled Allow OEM unlock and enabled debugging in Developer Options.
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Great job Mustard, I never thought they would put a toggle in the settings for it. No other device I have owned had that.
As for SKUs, I am not sure why they did that either. I think the 8" and 10" versions run on the same hardware, but the pro version uses something completely different. My model number is YT3-850F.
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Hey there. I posted something in another Tab 3 thread, but I think it was more for the Tab 3 Pro. It's a bit confusing right now cause there seems to be a lot of different SKUs for the same product name. Mine is the Lenovo Tab 3 10 - model YT3-X50F.
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actually it's not that hard:
Yoga Tab 3 - 8" (YT3-850F) -> the cheap model of the 3 series, runs a Qualcomm cpu (ARM), pricetag 170$
Yoga Tab 3 - 10" (YT3-X50F) -> still on a budgetside, also with a Qualcomm cpu
Yoga Tab 3 Pro - 10" (YT3-X90F) -> the (more)expensive one, runs a Atom cpu (x86), pricetag 500$
F is the wifi only variant (L adds 4G but the price goes up too)
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As for SKUs, I am not sure why they did that either. I think the 8" and 10" versions run on the same hardware, but the pro version uses something completely different. My model number is YT3-850F.
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I would have thought they would remove the "Allow OEM unlocking" toggle. It was new with Lollipop - most devices I know don't make it that easy.
I found this link while trying to look up your model number. It suggests that we share the same radios (at least as far as Bluetooth SIG is concerned). And I could be wrong, but I think since the SoC has the radios built in, our boards would then be identical to develop on.
I can't post links yet, but Google "bluetooth sig D026975" and it'll pop right up.
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ionioni said:
actually it's not that hard:
Yoga Tab 3 - 8" (YT3-850F) -> the cheap model of the 3 series, runs a Qualcomm cpu (ARM), pricetag 170$
Yoga Tab 3 - 10" (YT3-X50F) -> still on a budgetside, also with a Qualcomm cpu
Yoga Tab 3 Pro - 10" (YT3-X90F) -> the (more)expensive one, runs a Atom cpu (x86), pricetag 500$
F is the wifi only variant (L adds 4G but the price goes up too)
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True, but any vendor round these parts (US) doesn't list it by the OEM model number - just the marketing monikers. I found out only AFTER buying mine - which made it a bit frustrating when looking up exact specs. For example, the Lenovo site doesn't note the F or L variants - they just talk about the Snapdragon 212 in generalities. But as I now know, the F variant doesn't have LTE - despite it sharing the same SoC as the L.
So at least on my SKU (YT3-X50F TAB 16GBL-US-BBY), it is disabled by Lenovo.
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I found this link while trying to look up your model number. It suggests that we share the same radios (at least as far as Bluetooth SIG is concerned). And I could be wrong, but I think since the SoC has the radios built in, our boards would then be identical to develop on.
True, but any vendor round these parts (US) doesn't list it by the OEM model number - just the marketing monikers. I found out only AFTER buying mine - which made it a bit frustrating when looking up exact specs. For example, the Lenovo site doesn't note the F or L variants - they just talk about the Snapdragon 212 in generalities. But as I now know, the F variant doesn't have LTE - despite it sharing the same SoC as the L.
So at least on my SKU (YT3-X50F TAB 16GBL-US-BBY), it is disabled by Lenovo.
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The Official Bluetooth SIG Member Site- D026975 Yep. That's the one. And there is a slight bump in the processor for the 10" one- from 1.1GHz to 1.3GHz- but that is probably because they clocked the chip in the 10" higher.
According to that too there is a M variant (YT3-850M).
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For example, the Lenovo site doesn't note the F or L variants - they just talk about the Snapdragon 212 in generalities. But as I now know, the F variant doesn't have LTE - despite it sharing the same SoC as the L.
So at least on my SKU (YT3-X50F TAB 16GBL-US-BBY), it is disabled by Lenovo.
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not disabled... missing
your model (WiFi only) has a different antenna (with a single lobe) and also your mainboard is missing the sim electronics (they have different part numbers for different variants F/L/M)
so it's not like you can send a command and enable LTE or call on a F tab (YT3-X50 hw manual)
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not disabled... missing
your model (WiFi only) has a different antenna (with a single lobe) and also your mainboard is missing the sim electronics (they have different part numbers for different variants F/L/M)
so it's not like you can send a command and enable LTE or call on a F tab (YT3-X50 hw manual)
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I've read that manual before and still reach the same conclusion. I'm not sure why you're arguing a point - not just once, but twice now. My opinion of the different SKUs and the "locking" of the SoC is not related to the task at hand. The focus should be on development.
They definitely do have a different antenna and the lack of a SIM tray can be problematic, but we both already knew that. What we don't know is how the components differ on the board-level. We do know there are different SKUs. Different board part numbers too. We do know that they share the same SoC, which is very helpful from a development standpoint... as well as confirming that there is an LTE radio on-chip. That's really all I said.
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I've read that manual before and still reach the same conclusion. I'm not sure why you're arguing a point - not just once, but twice now. My opinion of the different SKUs and the "locking" of the SoC is not related to the task at hand. The focus should be on development.
They definitely do have a different antenna and the lack of a SIM tray can be problematic, but we both already knew that. What we don't know is how the components differ on the board-level. We do know there are different SKUs. Different board part numbers too. We do know that they share the same SoC, which is very helpful from a development standpoint... as well as confirming that there is an LTE radio on-chip. That's really all I said.
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disabled functionality is one thing, missing components required for a function is another. if you were to say: "at least on my SKU (YT3-X50F TAB 16GBL-US-BBY), i don't have all the required parts"
YT3 have three base models the two cheap ones and the pro one and they don't all share the same SoC (and the 10" pro is twice the price of the one you have)
fastboot enable LTE
it's not arguing, it's just asserting
might be possible to cwm
ok i've just got this tablet today and am quite pleased with it. I'm currently looking at creating cwm for as I can't find a way of rooting it also but I think it can be rooted using the super su update zip file this might take a while due to work so theres no guarantee I can do it though. can but try
nmonty said:
ok i've just got this tablet today and am quite pleased with it. I'm currently looking at creating cwm for as I can't find a way of rooting it also but I think it can be rooted using the super su update zip file this might take a while due to work so theres no guarantee I can do it though. can but try
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Kingroot just worked for me and I now have root access. Yt3-850f is my model. I need a custom recovery so I can install xposed.
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Kingroot just worked for me and I now have root access. Yt3-850f is my model. I need a custom recovery so I can install xposed.
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do you still get updates after rooting?
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Kingroot just worked for me and I now have root access. Yt3-850f is my model. I need a custom recovery so I can install xposed.
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Cool, that's good to know that Kingroot worked. I wouldn't use it personally due to some questionable security things, but since it works, that means there should be a way to gain root without the proprietary software.
A few days ago, I tried the recovery from the Tab 2 for kicks. It did not boot. I have been looking into guides on how to build TWRP from source, but I'm stuck for the time being.
hello, my first post, I bought a Nexus 6P from ebay. It has an unlocked bootloader (I get the warning when I turn it on) and the os build number is "angler-userdebug 8.1.0 OPM3.171019.01445.3998 dev-keys". there are applications that are not uninstallable: Better Bug, Nexus Logger, Traceur, and Volta. My question is, is this device suitable for personal use the way it is? any other information and/or suggestions are appreciated.
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hello, my first post, I bought a Nexus 6P from ebay. It has an unlocked bootloader (I get the warning when I turn it on) and the os build number is "angler-userdebug 8.1.0 OPM3.171019.01445.3998 dev-keys". there are applications that are not uninstallable: Better Bug, Nexus Logger, Traceur, and Volta. My question is, is this device suitable for personal use the way it is? any other information and/or suggestions are appreciated.
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I am not sure about the rom version.
https://developers.google.com/android/images#angler
It sounds like somebody sold you a former test model from Huawei.
I can obly assume, that they sold remaining units, but after I searched a bit about those applications I can, like I said, only give you a vague assumption.
The important questions are -
Is the phone functional?Meaning: bootloop, sudden reboots, battery problems?
Are you able to use adb/fastboot? - > Is your phone being recognized by the command 'fastboot devices'?
Did you get a notification that is your system can be updated?
The unlocking of a bootloader isn't a reason to be distinctively suspicious?
But, if you are not satisfied with the phone in whatever way, you can demand to be refunded in regard of the unlocked bootloader with the argument, that the seller has tampered with it and should wrote it in the description.
I bought a phone a while ago and were unsatisfied with it, so I argued with the above mentioned and got my money back.
This was even from somebody private and there are no refund policies, besides the buyer protection.
If you have not passed thr chance and don't want to have a phone, which somebody has used most likely to flash a custom rom or recovery to root same phone, then go for it.
It is not a 100% bulletproof argument, but ebay excepted it, at leat in my case.
If you are okay with the device and adb/fastboot are working, in a way that you for example can test some commands, whicj you have to look up, but __don't flash anything__ as long as you are unsure of the condition.
If you want to remove these apps, you have to look them up, which is expandable and which isn't, before removing them.
And lastly - if you want to remove them, you have to root your phone (tutorials find you here en mass, the same goes for adb/fastboot usage).
But the same goes here for testing a ADB and fastboot usability, please.
If you decide to keep it, then you can remove system apps (>before a search if you phone goes boom..), aith this app for example
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/jumobile/system-app-remover-root/system-app-remover-root-7-1-release/
With this, you are able to backup the apps if you want to remove them.
Some apps, especially the so-called 'bloatware' is from now on then, quite resistant.Just empty the trash, which you find in the app's menu.
Titanium Backup, a very, very versatile application, is fir example capable of backing up your entire apps including data, but I think, you have "some" pointers now and can give it (with carefulness) your own try.
Have fun & good luck