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[Q] About tablet UI?

Important question about Nexus 7 tablet UI?
I know there is a "mod" about density changes to make it look like a tablet but is it really like a tablet OS. I mean that does apps that are ment to tablets work on that like for example an app called Elisa viihde (it´s only for tablets).
I would like to buy nexus 7 but I want a "real tablet".

The Nexus 7 uses a new hybrid tablet UI, as you've probably noticed, the homescreen is larger and the notification bar does not take up the whole screen.
only 7" tablets are going to use this UI, and it's up to the app developers to tell the app to use the tablet UI or the phone UI.
For example, during the keynote, Google showed the Google+, Youtube, and Gmail apps.
Youtube loaded the phone version. Google+ and Gmail loaded the tablet version.
So most likely the developer has to add into his app to enable support for this new UI/Screen size to use the tablet UI. Otherwise it will probably default to the phone, and it's possible that tablet only apps won't work.
Maybe you'll get lucky and someone with an I/O version can test that app for you. Otherwise feel free to send me a message in a couple weeks when mine comes in and i'll test it for you.
If it doesn't work, you can always email the dev asking them to enable support for 7" JB and your device. And sometimes you can extract the APK and instal it and then it will work. People did that with Photoshop Touch and the NFL tablet app and got them to work on the galaxy nexus and galaxy note.

Okay thanks i'll see.
I have also thought about a transformer infinity...
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neok44 said:
The Nexus 7 uses a new hybrid tablet UI, as you've probably noticed, the homescreen is larger and the notification bar does not take up the whole screen.
only 7" tablets are going to use this UI, and it's up to the app developers to tell the app to use the tablet UI or the phone UI.
For example, during the keynote, Google showed the Google+, Youtube, and Gmail apps.
Youtube loaded the phone version. Google+ and Gmail loaded the tablet version.
So most likely the developer has to add into his app to enable support for this new UI/Screen size to use the tablet UI. Otherwise it will probably default to the phone, and it's possible that tablet only apps won't work.
Maybe you'll get lucky and someone with an I/O version can test that app for you. Otherwise feel free to send me a message in a couple weeks when mine comes in and i'll test it for you.
If it doesn't work, you can always email the dev asking them to enable support for 7" JB and your device. And sometimes you can extract the APK and instal it and then it will work. People did that with Photoshop Touch and the NFL tablet app and got them to work on the galaxy nexus and galaxy note.
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I have not watched the keynote as of yet, but from all the reviews I have seen, the youtube app is all new and obviously not formatted for any smaller than an 7" screen

There is a write up on the main xda page today, looks simple. It will be one of the first things I do when mine arrives.
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marty331 said:
There is a write up on the main xda page today, looks simple. It will be one of the first things I do when mine arrives.
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link?

iwantanandroid said:
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I take it your not a developer! LOL
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/full-tablet-ui-on-the-google-nexus-7/
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Yea I know about that density thing.
One thing to neok44 I just saw that you can't test that app unless you live in Finland and have that "account" which costs, but thanks anyways.
In Finland here I saw the nexus 7 appeared in one store as a preorder thing as a US version but it costs 450€ that makes me think do I really want that
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Lol nope just a noob
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Has anyone compared the Nexus 7 to the Galaxy Tab 7.7? The Tab 7.7 is just about the perfect density for me.
I played with a Toshiba Excite 7.7 and they have the density too high for me. (Widgets are huge on the screen and there isn't much screen real estate.) That was one of the few things I didn't like about the device.

Stempanssi said:
Important question about Nexus 7 tablet UI?
I know there is a "mod" about density changes to make it look like a tablet but is it really like a tablet OS. I mean that does apps that are ment to tablets work on that like for example an app called Elisa viihde (it´s only for tablets).
I would like to buy nexus 7 but I want a "real tablet".
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You could have asked this in my thread , but yes when you change the dpi it causes the nexus 7 to support all tablet apps even the one you said. Changing the dpi isn't changing the looks it changes how the Nexus 7 operates. Theres some con in this with a changed dpi, apps that run specifically for the phone may not run on the Nexus 7 in tablet ui. If the Nexus 7 is in its original 7inchphablet ui it runs both phones apps and tablet apps pretty smoothly. This can be fixed on the tablet ui just by editing the market to recognize the nexus 7 in the more compatible dpi. I'll see if i can do this after work.

SladeNoctis said:
You could have asked this in my thread , but yes when you change the dpi it causes the nexus 7 to support all tablet apps even the one you said. Changing the dpi isn't changing the looks it changes how the Nexus 7 operates. Theres some con in this with a changed dpi, apps that run specifically for the phone may not run on the Nexus 7 in tablet ui. If the Nexus 7 is in its original 7inchphablet ui it runs both phones apps and tablet apps pretty smoothly. This can be fixed on the tablet ui just by editing the market to recognize the nexus 7 in the more compatible dpi. I'll see if i can do this after work.
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Thanks I hope it is possible to fool the market
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Stempanssi said:
Important question about Nexus 7 tablet UI?
I know there is a "mod" about density changes to make it look like a tablet but is it really like a tablet OS. I mean that does apps that are ment to tablets work on that like for example an app called Elisa viihde (it´s only for tablets).
I would like to buy nexus 7 but I want a "real tablet".
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As an app dev, I know that the play store asks about what screens o
It an app can work on. And will only be available in the market for those screens. If you properly change your tablet to tablet UI, the market will know it is a tablet and offer you tablet apps.
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Yea I just don't want it to be like the first galaxy tab
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iwantanandroid said:
Lol nope just a noob
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Haha just giving you a hard time!
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http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...round-to-enable-android-tablet-ui-on-nexus-7/

Ok im sorry for the seemingly obvious question, but am i to understand that because of this in my opinion crazy decision to make this phablet UI, if i want it to work in the tablet UI mode i have to take my new tablet and lower the screens density, the exact density that is one of the main points that attracted me to it, is there no way to enable the UI without lowering the quality? This is irking me so much because im not a developer, no where near so im actually having to study this and put a bit of thought into this whole deal and the number of changes i will have to make upon recieving this tablet just to make it what i feel like it should have been to begin with are getting to be numerous. Thanks guys sorry for the rant

A lot of apps are not compatible with N7, why?

Looking through the google play store a lot of apps cannot be installed on my N7 because its not compatible with them.
But for many I can't see how or why it wouldn't be compatible.
1. Is compatibility for the N7 an opt in process or are those apps testing for some capability or another they cannot find?
2. Is there a way to force such apps to install on an N7?

I've noticed most apps work if you side load them (I don't play games really...so can't speak to them) the problem is you need to get the apk to install them.
To answer your "why" question, I would think because Jelly Bean is so new that Devs haven't tested their apps and marked them JB compatible.
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If you changed your DPI, that could be a reason.

thebobp said:
If you changed your DPI, that could be a reason.
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I didn't touch my DPI. But thanks anyways.
ExploreMN said:
I've noticed most apps work if you side load them (I don't play games really...so can't speak to them) the problem is you need to get the apk to install them.
To answer your "why" question, I would think because Jelly Bean is so new that Devs haven't tested their apps and marked them JB compatible.
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Thanks.

i notice that too. some of them doesn make sense at all.
for example the game shoot the zombirds,
it works on my phone, and my old galaxy 10,1 that has the same resolution as nexus 7.
but it says not compatible with nexus 7.
since the game is free, i download it to my phone and use air droid, a free app,
to make a backup of that game as an apk file, then use air droid to install it on the nexus 7.
it runs smooth and great on nexus 7.

This happens to some degree with every new Android version. its just new. like was said above me, the developers have to update their apps for JB compatibility

JB just came out. I don't know how Devs have the time to update so quickly.
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I find the opposite - of all the apps I have searched for and/or downloaded I would say less than 5% were incompatible. At least from Google Play.
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Amazon broken under 4.2 ?

Since updating to 4.2 I now have to login on the Amazon App Store every time I use the app... And every time I use an Amazon purchased app...
Before 4.2 it strayed logged in...
Any thoughts?
Are there any new settings in 4.2 that control / affect login preservation?
Thanks
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I had same problem and thats one of the many i had with 4.2, its complete junk and should never have been released, I used mskip toolkit to revert back to 4.1.1, its easy other than losing all your data and having to redo everything, but its better than a bug ridden os
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Pandemonium2k4 said:
I had same problem and thats one of the many i had with 4.2, its complete junk and should never have been released, I used mskip toolkit to revert back to 4.1.1, its easy other than losing all your data and having to redo everything, but its better than a bug ridden os
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The last I checked, it was up to third party app developers to revise their apps to keep up with what is essentially a major update to the OS and not the other way around. The bugs that I've encountered thus far are attributable to third party apps.
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najaboy said:
The last I checked, it was up to third party app developers to revise their apps to keep up with what is essentially a major update to the OS and not the other way around. The bugs that I've encountered thus far are attributable to third party apps.
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I'm not going to argue about this again, but Googles own stinking apps would not even work with the update, like the YouTube app, current and Gmail crashed so ya im not buying that. Why can't you people just admit, they screwed up? Die hards or you must work for Google.
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Amazon Market and Amazon Apps and Amazon MP3 have been updated.
Everything working great here. Never saw any problem with YouTube.
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Actually - I recommend subscribing to her channel.

Pandemonium2k4 said:
I'm not going to argue about this again, but Googles own stinking apps would not even work with the update, like the YouTube app, current and Gmail crashed so ya im not buying that. Why can't you people just admit, they screwed up? Die hards or you must work for Google.
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In the history of OS upgrades, this is the first time programs/apps have crashed on release of an OS update/upgrade. Never has a program failed under a Windows/DOS update/upgrade, the Mac's OS, or UNIX, the Atari's OS or the Amiga OS, the Heathkit H8 running CPM...a CompuColor II. Nope.... This crash stuff has never happened until Android.
Sarcasm... look it up.

Same here
OldDogEyes said:
Since updating to 4.2 I now have to login on the Amazon App Store every time I use the app... And every time I use an Amazon purchased app...
Before 4.2 it strayed logged in...
Any thoughts?
Are there any new settings in 4.2 that control / affect login preservation?
Thanks
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No ideas on the issue but wanted to confirm I am seeing the same issue. And every time I log in it is adding another device to my Amazon account. After reaching 25 registered devices you have to go to your account and deregister devices in order to allow the new login.

Pandemonium2k4 said:
I'm not going to argue about this again, but Googles own stinking apps would not even work with the update, like the YouTube app, current and Gmail crashed so ya im not buying that. Why can't you people just admit, they screwed up? Die hards or you must work for Google.
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LOL. You may want to get some professional help for those paranoid delusions. Rest assured that not everyone who disagrees with your opinion is either a die hard or works for Google. On the contrary, it's simply a matter of applying some basic critical thinking skills and arriving at a conclusion supported by rational, valid premises.
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phillip1953 said:
In the history of OS upgrades, this is the first time programs/apps have crashed on release of an OS update/upgrade. Never has a program failed under a Windows/DOS update/upgrade, the Mac's OS, or UNIX, the Atari's OS or the Amiga OS, the Heathkit H8 running CPM...a CompuColor II. Nope.... This crash stuff has never happened until Android.
Sarcasm... look it up.
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Lol I never said other os' have not had problems, I would be mad if this was any other op as well. Google monkeys seem to be the worst though, they keep showing their lack of programming on YouTube that they bought and are trying to ruin. The YouTube app and webpage versions are riddled with problems, if you use them, you will understand what I'm saying.
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brw9100 said:
No ideas on the issue but wanted to confirm I am seeing the same issue. And every time I log in it is adding another device to my Amazon account. After reaching 25 registered devices you have to go to your account and deregister devices in order to allow the new login.
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Yes, and one of the major problems with this is I already have a few android devices and try to manage them from a PC. It's now impossible because when I try to push a purchase to my N7 Android, I can't retrieve it because i have to log into Amazon from the N7 again and it registers as a new device which is no longer matched by the pushed purchase.

The Amazon App Store also did this to me when the bootloader was unlocked in 4.1.2 - when I locked it the problem cleared up - then when I did the update to 4.2, the problem came back... Very frustrating...

Pandemonium2k4 said:
I had same problem and thats one of the many i had with 4.2, its complete junk and should never have been released, I used mskip toolkit to revert back to 4.1.1, its easy other than losing all your data and having to redo everything, but its better than a bug ridden os
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Do I have to be rooted or unlocked to revert back?
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Shees people, it is not that hard.
If you are having problems with the app store, just uninstall it and reinstall it.

That does NOT work, I've tried it twice. A factory reset will probably fix it, but no plans to do that.... will wait for Amazon fix, although getting very impatient (why did I ever set such a long complicated password) Never rooted, just OTA update.
rmm200 said:
Shees people, it is not that hard.
If you are having problems with the app store, just uninstall it and reinstall it.
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Just to make sure I was not blowing smoke:
After installing the updated Amazon App store, I did have to log in - once.
I also had to indicate which credit card on my account would be used for purchases.
Subsequent use of the app did not require me to log in again, until I power cycled.
Then I had to log in again. Credit card was remembered.
I downloaded the free app of the day before power cycling, and another free one after.
Both downloaded and installed fine. They work too.
Except for having to log in again after power off, everything works as expected with 4.2.
App version is 2.6.53 (found on settings within App Store).

... hey, I'd be careful doing a factory restore; the official Amazon app is unavailable from Google Play for us 4.2 users.
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I think you're one of the lucky ones. I can log in, can look at account balance, got free app of the day... but it automatically logs off about once every hour or two. If I'm logged in, then I turn off wifi, none of my Amazon apps will work (says I need to log in). Turn on wifi, Amazon is still connected (for a little while), and apps work fine. Once it disconnects (even on wifi) any app I try gives a log in message.
So far logged in 5 times today. Looking at my account on a PC, I have 6 Nexus 7 devices (from today). Not rooted, normal OTA update. I think you were one of the lucky ones!
edit: I just looked and I have 12 registered N7's... got rid of the 11 oldest ones... no help. I decided to delete all 12 and have them send a new apk via email. Just installed and logged in. Will report back when/if it disconnects.
edit2: Only took 30 minutes to ask for sign in again. Adds device on every sign-in.
rmm200 said:
Just to make sure I was not blowing smoke:
After installing the updated Amazon App store, I did have to log in - once.
I also had to indicate which credit card on my account would be used for purchases.
Subsequent use of the app did not require me to log in again, until I power cycled.
Then I had to log in again. Credit card was remembered.
I downloaded the free app of the day before power cycling, and another free one after.
Both downloaded and installed fine. They work too.
Except for having to log in again after power off, everything works as expected with 4.2.
App version is 2.6.53 (found on settings within App Store).
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Grumble - I just logged onto Amazon on my PC. App store shows 4 registered Nexus 7s.
That qualifies as broke... Also shows I don't use the Amazon App store much.
How do we notify Amazon?
Well I sent an EMail to Amazon Customer Service.

rmm200 said:
Grumble - I just logged onto Amazon on my PC. App store shows 4 registered Nexus 7s.
That qualifies as broke... Also shows I don't use the Amazon App store much.
How do we notify Amazon?
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They're aware of the issue and claim they are working on an update.
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meatfest1974 said:
... hey, I'd be careful doing a factory restore; the official Amazon app is unavailable from Google Play for us 4.2 users.
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The official Amazon app has been "incompatible" with the N7 since day one, regardless of version since we lack a forward camera. The workaround is to either sideload the apk, or installing from the Amazon appstore.
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They're aware of the issue and claim they are working on an update.
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The official Amazon app has been "incompatible" with the N7 since day one, regardless of version since we lack a forward camera. The workaround is to either sideload the apk, or installing from the Amazon appstore.
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I complained to Amazon through their "Contact Us" link - here is their reply...
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Hello Thomas,
I'm sorry for the trouble you've been having with constantly having to log back into the.
I've reported this to our technical team, and they're working on taking care of it.
Please try updating the Amazon Appstore app in the next few days.
Errors like this are usually corrected shortly after they're reported.
Thanks for your patience while we fix this problem. We look forward to seeing you again soon.
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Tom

Split screen

Anyone know of an App or ROM that gives the ability to have a split screen like the Note?
One app open in half the screen and another app in the other half?
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Only Samsung ROMs are capable of doing that. Maybe we will get a port, but that requires a lot of Samsung framework. So as of now, no.
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Got t. Thanks!
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I was wondering the same, it'd be really nice to see this on the Nexus 4.

speedygonzo said:
Only Samsung ROMs are capable of doing that. Maybe we will get a port, but that requires a lot of Samsung framework. So as of now, no.
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LG Optimus G is capable..

lowandbehold said:
LG Optimus G is capable..
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It has a version of multiwindow? I thought that was only for like the video player.
Either way, there are plenty of floating apps on the play store that are pretty awesome. Lilypad HD is a floating chat client, Overscrkeen is a floating web browser, and there's a few others as well.

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It has a version of multiwindow? I thought that was only for like the video player.
Either way, there are plenty of floating apps on the play store that are pretty awesome. Lilypad HD is a floating chat client, Overscrkeen is a floating web browser, and there's a few others as well.
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I was looking more for like any app you can put in the split screen. I'm going to check out those apps though. Thanks

there's cornerstone which existed before samsung came and you can be sure thats what samsung probably based theirs on. googles dianne hackborn personally vetoed when cyanogenmod tried to bring in cornerstone, even hinting at legal consequences. afaik it was troublesome and buggy aswell, even samsungs solution was for a couple of apps only, right?

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there's cornerstone which existed before samsung came and you can be sure thats what samsung probably based theirs on. googles dianne hackborn personally vetoed when cyanogenmod tried to bring in cornerstone, even hinting at legal consequences. afaik it was troublesome and buggy aswell, even samsungs solution was for a couple of apps only, right?
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Yes, it was originally only for a couple of apps. But there are some hacked up versions available on XDA that allow it to work perfectly with all apps.

Thanks guys. I'll check out cornerstone on xda.
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[Q] Asphalt 7: Heat 1.0.6 patch

Is anybody else getting a "Device Not Compatible" error with their Nexus 10? I kept getting a download error, then it began reporting that it wasn't compatible.
If so... Or if not... Does anybody know of a way to sideload it? I have purchased it legally and am looking for a legal way to do so- if there isn't, then don't worry about it.

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Is anybody else getting a "Device Not Compatible" error with their Nexus 10? I kept getting a download error, then it began reporting that it wasn't compatible.
If so... Or if not... Does anybody know of a way to sideload it? I have purchased it legally and am looking for a legal way to do so- if there isn't, then don't worry about it.
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It's laggy as hell on the nexus 10 so maybe that's why they made it incompatible. Anyways its so laggy you wouldn't even be able to Play it so I wouldn't bother trying to put it in it unless you get one of the older versions before the lag started
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It's laggy as hell on the nexus 10 so maybe that's why they made it incompatible. Anyways its so laggy you wouldn't even be able to Play it so I wouldn't bother trying to put it in it unless you get one of the older versions before the lag started
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I wish I could. It's irritating as hell and Greedloft isn't interested in improving their products
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EDIT: I've contacted their customer support. Don't expect a response, didn't get one last time.

Its no longer reporting incompatible, gives this error when updating: "Update for "Asphalt 7: Heat" could not be downloaded due to an error. (Error retrieving information from server. [RPC:S-5:AEC-0])". Googling now, but I've tried these solutions already
EDIT: It simply... Started installing. Finally. Here's hoping the performance is fixed- no reason my old Acer a500 should outperform my N10. I half wish I hadn't sold that thing.

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Its no longer reporting incompatible, gives this error when updating: "Update for "Asphalt 7: Heat" could not be downloaded due to an error. (Error retrieving information from server. [RPC:S-5:AEC-0])". Googling now, but I've tried these solutions already
EDIT: It simply... Started installing. Finally. Here's hoping the performance is fixed- no reason my old Acer a500 should outperform my N10. I half wish I hadn't sold that thing.
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Well if it works well please tell me because I love the game but it sucked on this tablet
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abdel12345 said:
Well if it works well please tell me because I love the game but it sucked on this tablet
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Except for random losses of framerate, which seem to be moments in which A7H is loading on the fly, I have never seen this game run smoother. I am glad. My CPU is at 1.3GHz and GPU at 720MHz
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Except for random losses of framerate, which seem to be moments in which A7H is loading on the fly, I have never seen this game run smoother. I am glad. My CPU is at 1.3GHz and GPU at 720MHz
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Cool they must have fixed the problem then. I'm going to try it out niw
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Very easy trick! Hope this works for all....
1) Keep your Wi-Fi on in your Phone
2) From (Pc/Mac) desktop browser go to https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gameloft.android.ANMP.GloftA7HM&hl=en (The main Asphalt 7 Google Play page, and make sure you Login on Pc with the Id you purchased it with)
3) Click Installed (Yes Installed, not Install as the game is already there and needs to be updated right?! )
4) Select the Device
5) Click Install and you will see the additional files being downloaded automatically on your Phone!!!
Enjoy and Press Thanks!! Cheers!!

Okay. But that wouldn't have fixed the issue I was having at the time.
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