Important question about Nexus 7 tablet UI?
I know there is a "mod" about density changes to make it look like a tablet but is it really like a tablet OS. I mean that does apps that are ment to tablets work on that like for example an app called Elisa viihde (it´s only for tablets).
I would like to buy nexus 7 but I want a "real tablet".
The Nexus 7 uses a new hybrid tablet UI, as you've probably noticed, the homescreen is larger and the notification bar does not take up the whole screen.
only 7" tablets are going to use this UI, and it's up to the app developers to tell the app to use the tablet UI or the phone UI.
For example, during the keynote, Google showed the Google+, Youtube, and Gmail apps.
Youtube loaded the phone version. Google+ and Gmail loaded the tablet version.
So most likely the developer has to add into his app to enable support for this new UI/Screen size to use the tablet UI. Otherwise it will probably default to the phone, and it's possible that tablet only apps won't work.
Maybe you'll get lucky and someone with an I/O version can test that app for you. Otherwise feel free to send me a message in a couple weeks when mine comes in and i'll test it for you.
If it doesn't work, you can always email the dev asking them to enable support for 7" JB and your device. And sometimes you can extract the APK and instal it and then it will work. People did that with Photoshop Touch and the NFL tablet app and got them to work on the galaxy nexus and galaxy note.
Okay thanks i'll see.
I have also thought about a transformer infinity...
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The Nexus 7 uses a new hybrid tablet UI, as you've probably noticed, the homescreen is larger and the notification bar does not take up the whole screen.
only 7" tablets are going to use this UI, and it's up to the app developers to tell the app to use the tablet UI or the phone UI.
For example, during the keynote, Google showed the Google+, Youtube, and Gmail apps.
Youtube loaded the phone version. Google+ and Gmail loaded the tablet version.
So most likely the developer has to add into his app to enable support for this new UI/Screen size to use the tablet UI. Otherwise it will probably default to the phone, and it's possible that tablet only apps won't work.
Maybe you'll get lucky and someone with an I/O version can test that app for you. Otherwise feel free to send me a message in a couple weeks when mine comes in and i'll test it for you.
If it doesn't work, you can always email the dev asking them to enable support for 7" JB and your device. And sometimes you can extract the APK and instal it and then it will work. People did that with Photoshop Touch and the NFL tablet app and got them to work on the galaxy nexus and galaxy note.
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I have not watched the keynote as of yet, but from all the reviews I have seen, the youtube app is all new and obviously not formatted for any smaller than an 7" screen
There is a write up on the main xda page today, looks simple. It will be one of the first things I do when mine arrives.
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There is a write up on the main xda page today, looks simple. It will be one of the first things I do when mine arrives.
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link?
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I take it your not a developer! LOL
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/full-tablet-ui-on-the-google-nexus-7/
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Yea I know about that density thing.
One thing to neok44 I just saw that you can't test that app unless you live in Finland and have that "account" which costs, but thanks anyways.
In Finland here I saw the nexus 7 appeared in one store as a preorder thing as a US version but it costs 450€ that makes me think do I really want that
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Lol nope just a noob
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Has anyone compared the Nexus 7 to the Galaxy Tab 7.7? The Tab 7.7 is just about the perfect density for me.
I played with a Toshiba Excite 7.7 and they have the density too high for me. (Widgets are huge on the screen and there isn't much screen real estate.) That was one of the few things I didn't like about the device.
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Important question about Nexus 7 tablet UI?
I know there is a "mod" about density changes to make it look like a tablet but is it really like a tablet OS. I mean that does apps that are ment to tablets work on that like for example an app called Elisa viihde (it´s only for tablets).
I would like to buy nexus 7 but I want a "real tablet".
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You could have asked this in my thread , but yes when you change the dpi it causes the nexus 7 to support all tablet apps even the one you said. Changing the dpi isn't changing the looks it changes how the Nexus 7 operates. Theres some con in this with a changed dpi, apps that run specifically for the phone may not run on the Nexus 7 in tablet ui. If the Nexus 7 is in its original 7inchphablet ui it runs both phones apps and tablet apps pretty smoothly. This can be fixed on the tablet ui just by editing the market to recognize the nexus 7 in the more compatible dpi. I'll see if i can do this after work.
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You could have asked this in my thread , but yes when you change the dpi it causes the nexus 7 to support all tablet apps even the one you said. Changing the dpi isn't changing the looks it changes how the Nexus 7 operates. Theres some con in this with a changed dpi, apps that run specifically for the phone may not run on the Nexus 7 in tablet ui. If the Nexus 7 is in its original 7inchphablet ui it runs both phones apps and tablet apps pretty smoothly. This can be fixed on the tablet ui just by editing the market to recognize the nexus 7 in the more compatible dpi. I'll see if i can do this after work.
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Thanks I hope it is possible to fool the market
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Stempanssi said:
Important question about Nexus 7 tablet UI?
I know there is a "mod" about density changes to make it look like a tablet but is it really like a tablet OS. I mean that does apps that are ment to tablets work on that like for example an app called Elisa viihde (it´s only for tablets).
I would like to buy nexus 7 but I want a "real tablet".
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As an app dev, I know that the play store asks about what screens o
It an app can work on. And will only be available in the market for those screens. If you properly change your tablet to tablet UI, the market will know it is a tablet and offer you tablet apps.
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Yea I just don't want it to be like the first galaxy tab
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Lol nope just a noob
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Haha just giving you a hard time!
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http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...round-to-enable-android-tablet-ui-on-nexus-7/
Ok im sorry for the seemingly obvious question, but am i to understand that because of this in my opinion crazy decision to make this phablet UI, if i want it to work in the tablet UI mode i have to take my new tablet and lower the screens density, the exact density that is one of the main points that attracted me to it, is there no way to enable the UI without lowering the quality? This is irking me so much because im not a developer, no where near so im actually having to study this and put a bit of thought into this whole deal and the number of changes i will have to make upon recieving this tablet just to make it what i feel like it should have been to begin with are getting to be numerous. Thanks guys sorry for the rant
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Hope no one posted this here yet.
Engadget Info: http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/12/google-updating-android-market-app-on-phones-adding-movies-and/
Nexus one thread w/ APK: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1166045
*Mediafire link: http://www.mediafire.com/?vdocx41t37rnn6y
*Thanks kotaro_14 for the link
I hate the look of the new market. It is using the game UI design as WP7 and I HATE how WP7 constantly hides things off screen and you have to just swipe madly to 'discover' if things are there or not.
ya its work on gs2
Scared27 said:
I hate the look of the new market. It is using the game UI design as WP7 and I HATE how WP7 constantly hides things off screen and you have to just swipe madly to 'discover' if things are there or not.
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I don't think the update will be mandatory. Guess you can stick to the same old version, if you hate the WP7 look-a-like
I'm digging the new style, much easier to find things
It seems to be slower than the old market and consumes a lot of power (12% of my battery usage in 20min)
Ahh, you beat me to it. But, yes the App Market has a nice new graphical overhaul. I'm actually a fan of the WP7 UI, it's quite unique and fits my taste. Alas, I did not buy a WP7 b/c non of them sported dual-core processors. But that new WP7 SGS II is begging me to buy it, but I'll wait for quadcores and hexacores to come out, I'm fine with my SGS II.
Here's a mediafire link if anybody wants it @mcchimney could you post it on the first post there as well: http://www.mediafire.com/?vdocx41t37rnn6y.
Looooove love love the new market!
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Niiiiiice a lil bit slower IMO but nice
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i thought at first this is black market apps
nice sharing here. thanks
There is also something strange about the market... I am seeing games like Modern Combat 2, BackStab, and Nova 2 on the Market. Last time I checked, Gameloft didn't release their games on the Market and my device can't play those games.
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Simply beautiful, i love it
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With the exception of modern combat two the others you can see but not touch LOL. Try finding link hehe.
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There is also something strange about the market... I am seeing games like Modern Combat 2, BackStab, and Nova 2 on the Market. Last time I checked, Gameloft didn't release their games on the Market and my device can't play those games.
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This is only for the US market not the UK or anywhere else
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Scared27 said:
I hate the look of the new market. It is using the game UI design as WP7 and I HATE how WP7 constantly hides things off screen and you have to just swipe madly to 'discover' if things are there or not.
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It looks alot better than the update they did earlier..with that big green "U" that was blocking half the screen.
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Does this work for the UK?
So wheres the lawsuit about this?
Downloaded Market from http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/07/12/download-the-new-android-market-v3-0-26-with-support-for-movies-and-books/ I am not sure when it will go live in my country so Downloaded from there..I love it but Kinda fell Lag.I think it is new so might take few days/weeks to fix it over it is SO COOL on SGS2 but I have a Problem I can't see Movies Option I think Movies option is not Available in my country yet
I hope they have intended some issues of old market in this new one. For example, there is no differentiation between Honeycomp & cellphone Androids during search. Also, they most drop the compatibility recommendation that makes some unable to download some apps. eg. I have a SGSII & ROM Manager is incompatible while all of you are running it!!!!.
So I'm seeing a bunch of apps that are not compatible with the the nexus 7... (TMZ, Newsday, Amazing Alex, Six Guns, HBO Go, etc.) I am rooted and have tried changing the dpi to 160 and full tablet model but the that doesn't do that Chavez these apps compatibility.
I saw this once in the past with the One X. Someone found a way to change the way the device identifies itself to the play store. Is this the same type of issue?
Anyone have a way around this? My last tablet was a Transformer prime and I would like to be able to run these apps on my N7 as well.
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It's usually because the developer hasn't changed the market info to enable support for jelly bean.
if you have these apps on your phone or other tablet you can backup the apk and try to install it on the N7 and see what happens. Also good to report back to the developer through an email letting them know that the app does not show up, or it does not work.
TMZ works just fine but the HBO Go & Max Go apks still don't work even after a DPI change to 170 so the only other possible way is to edit the build.prop to trick both the market & app to think that it's a different device but I'm not that sure it will work because I think only one of the Go apps have been updated for tablets but I might be wrong on that I also tried to edit the apk directly to work on ICS months ago before they added support and I couldn't fix that so I'm not even going fool with it thus time if you need the apks PM me
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TMZ for tablets works??? Not on mine....
On my galaxy SIII where would i find the. Apks for apps i installed from the play store?
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It's the same thing that happened with honeycomb. lots of apps did not work at launch. gonna take a while for everything to be updated.
HBO Go JUST added tablet support like a month ago.
Right but the apps i mentioned all worked fine on my Transformer prime. So its not the app its something about the N7.
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Gromet said:
Right but the apps i mentioned all worked fine on my Transformer prime. So its not the app its something about the N7.
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HBO Go explicitly supports only a handful of tablets and the Nexus 7 isn't one of them yet.
EDIT: Also this: "- Now supporting Android tablets running up to version 4.04 (Ice Cream Sandwich)"
Is there a way around this? I haven't rooted yet, but I will eventually. It's pretty annoying that a lot of apps that I have already searched for aren't there...
I need my HBO Go!
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If an app is not supported it's for one of three reasons
1) the app developer has put a 'ceiling' on the app so it can only be downloaded by devices up to a certain version of android. Most likely 4.0.4 and they have not updated the play store information to allow for 4.1/4.1.1
2) the app developer only allows it for certain devices (HBO GO) and has to manually add support for the Nexus 7 either through more development in the app or simply enabling support for it in the Play Store.
3) The app does not work in jelly bean and there for the developer is not allowing anyone to download it and has done one of the above until they can enable support for it.
This happened with honeycomb (3.0) and ice cream sandwich. (4.0) and there is nothing to freak out about. Just email the dev and tell them that you can't download it on the nexus 7 with jelly bean.
Has anyone tried the Comcast Xfinity app? I cannot get it to work. It loads, you are able to choose video, but when it starts trying to play it says your video will play shortly with a spinning circle next to it and never goes any farther.
Same exact thing on HBO GO on Fios.
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I would not be 100% sure its an app issue. I have an app in appstore. No versions limitations and I can even see nexus 7 in list of supported devices. But still get incompatible message if I try install it. Totally puzzled
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instagram was un compatible. but engadget say they release an update to support the n7 and it can use the front facing camera take photos.
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Does anyone knows what needs to be changed in app to make it compatible?
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You can try to change the build.prop in you system folder to match another device. I did this on my older tablet and on my galaxy note to get more games to show.
U need root access to read and write system folder.
ro.product.model=A500
ro.product.brand=acer
ro.product.name=a500_ww_gen1
ro.product.device=picasso
ro.product.board=picasso
Edit these lines. Then reboot make sure u make a backup this may or may not work. Anytime I didn't work I just rebooted again and it went back. If Acer doesn't work you can try an Asus transformer build.prop. There is always gonna be an issue with comparability though. Your better off finding and side loading an apk for now to test rather then buy to find out it don't work.
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Thanks
But I would like to know as a developer how to fix it in app
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aye. because you guys can't read.
If an app is not supported it's for one of three reasons
1) the app developer has put a 'ceiling' on the app so it can only be downloaded by devices up to a certain version of android. Most likely 4.0.4 and they have not updated the play store information to allow for 4.1/4.1.1
2) the app developer only allows it for certain devices (HBO GO) and has to manually add support for the Nexus 7 either through more development in the app or simply enabling support for it in the Play Store.
3) The app does not work in jelly bean and there for the developer is not allowing anyone to download it and has done one of the above until they can enable support for it.
This happened with honeycomb (3.0) and ice cream sandwich. (4.0) and there is nothing to freak out about. Just email the dev and tell them that you can't download it on the nexus 7 with jelly bean.
Let's not make a noise
please check my question again . I read
I'm developer. My app is running on other JB devices ( galaxy nexus no issues what so ever)
I can manually install app on nexus 7 and it works perfect
I just not aware of any limitation could be that would block device. I tried already removing request for vibration permission but still play store doesn't allow app for nexus 7
it's something strange
I already opened ticket @Google for this
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aye. because you guys can't read.
If an app is not supported it's for one of three reasons
1) the app developer has put a 'ceiling' on the app so it can only be downloaded by devices up to a certain version of android. Most likely 4.0.4 and they have not updated the play store information to allow for 4.1/4.1.1
2) the app developer only allows it for certain devices (HBO GO) and has to manually add support for the Nexus 7 either through more development in the app or simply enabling support for it in the Play Store.
3) The app does not work in jelly bean and there for the developer is not allowing anyone to download it and has done one of the above until they can enable support for it.
This happened with honeycomb (3.0) and ice cream sandwich. (4.0) and there is nothing to freak out about. Just email the dev and tell them that you can't download it on the nexus 7 with jelly bean.
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Dude. You are wrong. These are not the only reason apps don't show. Tell me why an app would appear and install and run just fine from the amazon app store but not show up at all in the play store?
Try the new Rovio game Amazing Alex. Doesn't show up in play store but comes up in the Amazon app store, installs fine and plays perfectly.
I have side loaded the newsday, ameritrade, tmz for tablets etc... And they all run perfectly.
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Hey all,
Simple questions about apps on the Nexus 7. I also have a Galaxy Tab 10.1 and have noticed that the same apps I am downloading on the Nexus 7 are different interfaces. Is the Nexus 7 using the phone version of apps? and is there a way to get the tablet version of the apps on the Nexus?
Thanks!
Hybrid. Some apps will use the tablet layout, like YouTube and Gmail, but others will use the phone layout. Thus why it has a hybrid home screen...
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Hybrid. Some apps will use the tablet layout, like YouTube and Gmail, but others will use the phone layout. Thus why it has a hybrid home screen...
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Thanks for the reply
OK, first off let me start by saying that this tablet is amazing. For 200 bucks it cannot be beat. I am very happy with my purchase.
My first question is just out of curiosity, I remember when I was watching the reviews for the nexus 7 when it was first announced, When you booted up the device it had a really cool splash screen that had an animation that went from top to bottom I'm not sure if any of you remember it. Was this removed because I do not have this splash screen on my device. Mine is just the big glowing X.
My second question is when I go into google now I noticed in a lot of screenshots the background on the top menu portion would change depending on your location. I live in new york and I happen to come across a screenshot of someone's google now and it had the menu with the brooklyn bridge on it which looks pretty awesome. unfortunately mine only has mountains which is what it came with by default. I know it depends on location but if I live in new york why isn't it changing my background in the menu? I have all of my location services active so I don't think that's the problem. Is there anyway I could push this over to my device. Thanks in advance.
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the splash screen you referred to might be the developers version of nexus 7..i think
The new splashcreen is stock jelly bean.
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Aren't we running the same os version as the white one???
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I have provided a YouTube video with the original
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akJb-rW1sLo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I have provided a YouTube video with the original
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akJb-rW1sLo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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from the comments on that video:
This is the old one. They removed it after the OTA. The OTA was released a couple of hours after the tablets were given out. I pulled the animation as soon as I turned that sucker on. I have made it available on Aniboot ( play.google.com/store/apps/det*ails?id=com.socaldevs.aniboot ) It currently is on both 1280x720 and 1280x800 devices, soon to be tested on 1024x800 devices. App needs root, but its completely worth it. Go check it out!
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That sucks I wonder why they did that I thought it was cool.
Any info on the google now location background in the app itself?
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So, this tablet is a great purchase don't get me wrong but the more I play with it the more I see force closing, freezing, and lag. Just not as snappy as my phone. My question is, is it the tablet or is it jellybean? I know jellybean is brand spankin new, so could this be the reason why these apps are force closing? Facebook and ALL browsers I've tried are the worst. And also for some reason it freezes a lot just when I go to my settings. Very annoying waiting for the simple stuff. Let me know if I'm the only one please. Thanks
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Im the opposite way. all my apps run smoothly. I may get a bit of lag once in a blue moon but it doesnt bother me. Chrome is also very quick too.
Well if you ask Rovio, it's jelly beans fault. I asked them about Amazing Alex not being available and got:
"Unfortunately Nexus 7 can not be added to the compatible devices due to its non standard way of reading the game's manifest file. This is something we can not change, it's up to the device manufacturer and Operation System manufacturer."
Amazing Alex is running beautifully on my N7. Available from Amazon App Store, so that pretty much makes that last post a complete fabrication of fact.
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I also thought that Amazing Alex being incompatible seemed weird given that it works on Tegra phones...
A load of applications just don't seem to be ready for high resolutions, and don't look right. Given that this device has truly taken off I imagine everyone will start to include 1280 layouts.
I'm grabbing stuff through the Play Store onto my Tab 2 7.0 and the using ROM Toolbox to make a backup, then sideloading the backup .apks on the N7. So far everything has worked just peachy. Probably my number one annoyance at this point with the device. (Previous number one annoyances were "Why is this thing so hard to root after the last OTA or is it my Tab 2 drivers getting in the way?", and after that it was "How in the world do I get Flash to work, why is Dolphin HD not working with Flash?")
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Well if you ask Rovio, it's jelly beans fault. I asked them about Amazing Alex not being available and got:
"Unfortunately Nexus 7 can not be added to the compatible devices due to its non standard way of reading the game's manifest file. This is something we can not change, it's up to the device manufacturer and Operation System manufacturer."
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Amazing Alex is running beautifully on my N7. Available from Amazon App Store, so that pretty much makes that last post a complete fabrication of fact.
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You guys should email Rovio.
Amazon Appstore doesn't have strict device policies for apps, so that's why you were able to install it and find out it works fine.
The Play Store, developers have tons of settings for device policies on apps, so they can exclude some devices, or can automatically exclude some devices (and they don't even know that it did).
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Amazing Alex is running beautifully on my N7. Available from Amazon App Store, so that pretty much makes that last post a complete fabrication of fact.
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Funny, it wasn't available for download from the Play store as of last night. I guess Rovio must have updated the software?
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Amazing Alex is running beautifully on my N7. Available from Amazon App Store, so that pretty much makes that last post a complete fabrication of fact.
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I agree that what Rovio told me is bs, as sideloading produced no issues. I was just saying what Rovio told me.
What is amazing Alex. And what is rovio?
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What is amazing Alex. And what is rovio?
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Rovio is the developer that created Angry Birds. Amazing Alex is from the developer Rovio.
Why is there yet another thread about app compatibility? Are these people all fresh and new to Android or something? Relax, the OS just launched, give it a few weeks - this is ridiculous now!
Even though YouTube app runs, it is indeed incompatible. Go to Play Store, you won't see it under your "Installed" list. You can't search it in Play store either (because it's incompatible with JB).
Is spotify supposed to be working? I ask as I cannot get the search feature to work at all and so am limited to playing my playlists only.
Amazing Alex HD plays fine here. The only game I found to run like crap is the Not-So-Amazing-Spider-Man.
-Its probably Tegra drivers and not Jelly Bean's fault.
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Well if you ask Rovio, it's jelly beans fault. I asked them about Amazing Alex not being available and got:
"Unfortunately Nexus 7 can not be added to the compatible devices due to its non standard way of reading the game's manifest file. This is something we can not change, it's up to the device manufacturer and Operation System manufacturer."
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Surely as it's the official android from Google its rovio that have a manifest that's non standard.
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Is spotify supposed to be working? I ask as I cannot get the search feature to work at all and so am limited to playing my playlists only.
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Yep - just listening to an album right now via searching. Maybe try reinstalling?
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