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[Q] About tablet UI?

Important question about Nexus 7 tablet UI?
I know there is a "mod" about density changes to make it look like a tablet but is it really like a tablet OS. I mean that does apps that are ment to tablets work on that like for example an app called Elisa viihde (it´s only for tablets).
I would like to buy nexus 7 but I want a "real tablet".

The Nexus 7 uses a new hybrid tablet UI, as you've probably noticed, the homescreen is larger and the notification bar does not take up the whole screen.
only 7" tablets are going to use this UI, and it's up to the app developers to tell the app to use the tablet UI or the phone UI.
For example, during the keynote, Google showed the Google+, Youtube, and Gmail apps.
Youtube loaded the phone version. Google+ and Gmail loaded the tablet version.
So most likely the developer has to add into his app to enable support for this new UI/Screen size to use the tablet UI. Otherwise it will probably default to the phone, and it's possible that tablet only apps won't work.
Maybe you'll get lucky and someone with an I/O version can test that app for you. Otherwise feel free to send me a message in a couple weeks when mine comes in and i'll test it for you.
If it doesn't work, you can always email the dev asking them to enable support for 7" JB and your device. And sometimes you can extract the APK and instal it and then it will work. People did that with Photoshop Touch and the NFL tablet app and got them to work on the galaxy nexus and galaxy note.

Okay thanks i'll see.
I have also thought about a transformer infinity...
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neok44 said:
The Nexus 7 uses a new hybrid tablet UI, as you've probably noticed, the homescreen is larger and the notification bar does not take up the whole screen.
only 7" tablets are going to use this UI, and it's up to the app developers to tell the app to use the tablet UI or the phone UI.
For example, during the keynote, Google showed the Google+, Youtube, and Gmail apps.
Youtube loaded the phone version. Google+ and Gmail loaded the tablet version.
So most likely the developer has to add into his app to enable support for this new UI/Screen size to use the tablet UI. Otherwise it will probably default to the phone, and it's possible that tablet only apps won't work.
Maybe you'll get lucky and someone with an I/O version can test that app for you. Otherwise feel free to send me a message in a couple weeks when mine comes in and i'll test it for you.
If it doesn't work, you can always email the dev asking them to enable support for 7" JB and your device. And sometimes you can extract the APK and instal it and then it will work. People did that with Photoshop Touch and the NFL tablet app and got them to work on the galaxy nexus and galaxy note.
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I have not watched the keynote as of yet, but from all the reviews I have seen, the youtube app is all new and obviously not formatted for any smaller than an 7" screen

There is a write up on the main xda page today, looks simple. It will be one of the first things I do when mine arrives.
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marty331 said:
There is a write up on the main xda page today, looks simple. It will be one of the first things I do when mine arrives.
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iwantanandroid said:
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I take it your not a developer! LOL
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/full-tablet-ui-on-the-google-nexus-7/
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Yea I know about that density thing.
One thing to neok44 I just saw that you can't test that app unless you live in Finland and have that "account" which costs, but thanks anyways.
In Finland here I saw the nexus 7 appeared in one store as a preorder thing as a US version but it costs 450€ that makes me think do I really want that
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Lol nope just a noob
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Has anyone compared the Nexus 7 to the Galaxy Tab 7.7? The Tab 7.7 is just about the perfect density for me.
I played with a Toshiba Excite 7.7 and they have the density too high for me. (Widgets are huge on the screen and there isn't much screen real estate.) That was one of the few things I didn't like about the device.

Stempanssi said:
Important question about Nexus 7 tablet UI?
I know there is a "mod" about density changes to make it look like a tablet but is it really like a tablet OS. I mean that does apps that are ment to tablets work on that like for example an app called Elisa viihde (it´s only for tablets).
I would like to buy nexus 7 but I want a "real tablet".
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You could have asked this in my thread , but yes when you change the dpi it causes the nexus 7 to support all tablet apps even the one you said. Changing the dpi isn't changing the looks it changes how the Nexus 7 operates. Theres some con in this with a changed dpi, apps that run specifically for the phone may not run on the Nexus 7 in tablet ui. If the Nexus 7 is in its original 7inchphablet ui it runs both phones apps and tablet apps pretty smoothly. This can be fixed on the tablet ui just by editing the market to recognize the nexus 7 in the more compatible dpi. I'll see if i can do this after work.

SladeNoctis said:
You could have asked this in my thread , but yes when you change the dpi it causes the nexus 7 to support all tablet apps even the one you said. Changing the dpi isn't changing the looks it changes how the Nexus 7 operates. Theres some con in this with a changed dpi, apps that run specifically for the phone may not run on the Nexus 7 in tablet ui. If the Nexus 7 is in its original 7inchphablet ui it runs both phones apps and tablet apps pretty smoothly. This can be fixed on the tablet ui just by editing the market to recognize the nexus 7 in the more compatible dpi. I'll see if i can do this after work.
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Thanks I hope it is possible to fool the market
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Stempanssi said:
Important question about Nexus 7 tablet UI?
I know there is a "mod" about density changes to make it look like a tablet but is it really like a tablet OS. I mean that does apps that are ment to tablets work on that like for example an app called Elisa viihde (it´s only for tablets).
I would like to buy nexus 7 but I want a "real tablet".
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As an app dev, I know that the play store asks about what screens o
It an app can work on. And will only be available in the market for those screens. If you properly change your tablet to tablet UI, the market will know it is a tablet and offer you tablet apps.
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Yea I just don't want it to be like the first galaxy tab
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iwantanandroid said:
Lol nope just a noob
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Haha just giving you a hard time!
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http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...round-to-enable-android-tablet-ui-on-nexus-7/

Ok im sorry for the seemingly obvious question, but am i to understand that because of this in my opinion crazy decision to make this phablet UI, if i want it to work in the tablet UI mode i have to take my new tablet and lower the screens density, the exact density that is one of the main points that attracted me to it, is there no way to enable the UI without lowering the quality? This is irking me so much because im not a developer, no where near so im actually having to study this and put a bit of thought into this whole deal and the number of changes i will have to make upon recieving this tablet just to make it what i feel like it should have been to begin with are getting to be numerous. Thanks guys sorry for the rant

Is there a way to turn off the extra panes in the gmail app on the N7 ?

I somehow don't feel the need to see an extra pane showing me labels and all. On top of that I think it's killing the precious space. I just like the plain jane look with just the email list or the email details.
Is there a way to turn off the panels ? I would want to get the same look as what I had in my NOTE.

Can't believe that no one replied here.
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Use other apps???
I have the same question as u.....can't fix that, I just took it...
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On my Nook the app is single pane.....not sure what would happen if I sideload it onto the Nexus 7....I will give it a try and see what happens.
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ncguy68 said:
On my Nook the app is single pane.....not sure what would happen if I sideload it onto the Nexus 7....I will give it a try and see what happens.
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Its because of the phablet UI, the app is the same on both devices so sideloading won't do a thing
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For most of my Gmail accounts I simply use K9 Mail
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Sideloading will not work. The version on my Nook is not compatible with the Nexus. Also... on the Nexus Gmail is a system app.
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Flash Paranoidandroid. You can change whether it shows in phone mode or tablet mode.

CM keyboard on stock nexus 7

All,
I've got the cm10.1 ROM on my fire and I love the keyboard where you can long press for numbers. The Nexus 7 doesn't have this stock, curiously, so I tried to pull the apk from the fire and it would install and even show up in the settings but I whenever I brought up the keyboard it didn't have the numbers. I did some searching but couldn't find anything. Any thoughts on how I could get this AOSP keyboard for the N7 w/o root?
Thanks peterb
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Personally, id just change the layout of the stock keyboard to PC. I find out significantly more convenient to have the dedicated fourth row of number keys than having to long press.
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How does one do that? I don't see that in any of the options menus.
Peterb
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pboggini said:
How does one do that? I don't see that in any of the options menus.
Peterb
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OK, I figured out how to do that with the input settings menu. I've got to say, I'm not all that excited about the PC layout even though it looks like it would be perfect for a 10" tablet I think that the N7 is a bit too small. Still hoping to be able to get the keyboard from the CM10.1/SGT7 rom.
peterb

Found the answer. I did an adb pull and grabbed the LatinLME.apk from the fire. I then pushed it to the Nexus 7 to sdcard. I then opened up my file manager and it installed. Once installed I originally couldn't figure out how to activate it. I figured out that if you go into the language and input settings you can change the default to the AOSP keyboard you just installed and are then good to go. While I could have rooted it I'm wanting to keep it stock to keep getting otas. The fire is for flashing ROMs
Hope this helps someone else.
Peterb
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News and Weather Genie not stock ?

My Brother just picked up the Nexus 7 with 4G. He's an iPhone guy switching over slowly.
Anyways, he asked me for some good Widgets. I said an Android classic is the "News and Weather" genie widget. He said that's not on this tablet. I told him to look under apps, for News and Weather, and sane under the Widget tab. He said nope, not there.
Did Google remove that classic Widget ?
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Anyone ?
I don't own the Nexus 7 myself. Just a Galaxy Nexus, and a Note 2 running CM10.1 and the "News and Weather" genie widget is standard.
Is it not installed on the Nexus 7 ?
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Nope not installed on the nexus 7. I read somewhere on here Google does not support it any more or something like that?
I've tried to side load the apk file to my n7 many times with no success.
However I am running clean ROM inheritance 3.2 and it comes with the ROM.
I am new to all this stuff. This is what I don't understand, the app is listed as transperent. It does not show up in titanium backup and I can't find it with root explorer.
I have no idea what is going on with this app.
I hope someone can clear this up
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tnt0303 said:
Nope not installed on the nexus 7. I read somewhere on here Google does not support it any more or something like that?
I've tried to side load the apk file to my n7 many times with no success.
However I am running clean ROM inheritance 3.2 and it comes with the ROM.
I am new to all this stuff. This is what I don't understand, the app is listed as transperent. It does not show up in titanium backup and I can't find it with root explorer.
I have no idea what is going on with this app.
I hope someone can clear this up
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The .apk name is Genie widget. Its not called News and Weather, only named that after install.
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Multi window

Is this possible at all ??
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OK maybe I need to ask the question can we get multi window on the n7 ?
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http://donandroid.com/what-is-paranoid-android-halo-multi-window-overlay-feature-1073
if you mean multi-window that is there on the Samsung UI....it'll get there at some point, but for now I don't think it is available

Try Multiscreen Multitasking app

darkic said:
Try Multiscreen Multitasking app
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From where the play store if so does it work?
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mobgod said:
From where the play store if so does it work?
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Alternative sources
GIYF - Google is your friend...

There are several apps on play store. I tried one of them "multiscreen multitasking THD" (you have to buy it to try it) but soon returned it. Very impressive idea but it could not connect to the Internet with its own browser, so I asked for a refund.
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Anderson2 said:
There are several apps on play store. I tried one of them "multiscreen multitasking THD" (you have to buy it to try it) but soon returned it. Very impressive idea but it could not connect to the Internet with its own browser, so I asked for a refund.
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So what your saying it does not work for are phone yet
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It worked fine as far as the multi window aspect. Quite cool! I just could not connect with its browser. It’s only $2 so you can try and see if you can get it to connect. I wrote to the author but have not heard back yet.
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Paranoid Android is currently working on their implementation of multi window, but it uses an overlay concept to do it. IMO this is much cleaner than stacked windows. They also have a notification ticker that works like Facebook chat heads, which is how you launch the overlay apps. It's still in alpha status but it's shipping up to be really good.
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