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I have recently purchased a Mugen 3000 mA battery. I am thrilled with the extended battery life after fully charging and discharging it three times as recommended by the manufacturer. What I find annoying is that WM6 no longer gives accurate information regarding remaining battery strength. If I run the battery down to 2%, remove the battery and restart WM6 says 37%. At 2% I can repeat and WM6 still says 37%. After running down to 2% a third time and repeating WM6 says around 10%. After that it varies a bit but you get the picture.
What I would like to know is if one of you geniuses out there has discovered a registry edit, hack or 3rd party software that will provide accurate battery info so I don't have to be distracted by having my battery say 2% for hours on end or repeatedly remove and restart.
BTW, BatteryStatus Ver. 1.04.200 beta2 build 0173 reports the same incorrect info and so does SPB Mobile Shell 1.5 Home Tab.
Thanks in advance for your informed guidance. OK, that is laying it on a bit thick but I always highly recommend this site to anyone I know interested in really learning how to take full advantage of that little computer in their pocket.
Take a search on XDA for Ariel monitor maybe it solves your problem.
Thanks for the suggestion. It is a nice little program but it suffers from the same problem. I suspect I need to find a way to change the mA capacity WM6 bases it's battery calculations. I don't know if that can be done with a registry edit or if there is a third party battery monitor that has an option to change the battery capacity for calculation of percentage remaining or better yet auto detects the actual battery capacity. Ideally it would be able to both accurately read remaining percentage and make reasonably accurate time remaining estimates based on current and historical battery drain data.
It is like driving a car with a broken gas gage. Sure, you can use the odometer to estimate how much gas you have left but you are always worried your estimate is off and you will be left stranded without a phone ... oops crossed metaphors.
How do the rest of the users with extended batteries handle this irritating situation?
Bump. I can't believe i'm the only one with this problem.
I know this problem also i will wait with buying a high capacy battery until i find such a hack
The Kaiser uses a smartbattery. The battery capacity is based on the information that a small processor inside the battery tells the phone's main processor. There are several things that could be the problem:
1. The small processor in the 3rd party battery is programmed with the old specs for the standard battery. The is nothing you could do about this.
2. The small processor needs to be calibrated. You would do this as follows; set your phone to never turn off no matter how low the battery got. Now, run the phone down until the thing dies from lack of power. Then charge it all the way up. This should fix that issue. I don't recomend doing it many times, because it is not good for Lion batteries to be fully discharged too often.
This is a very valid issue which I have faced many times when using a 3rd party extended battery with other phones.
Not sure how to solve it though, although I have the 3000mah on order myself.
I think the battery reading is given by the battery itself, and most of these 3rd party manufacturers don't really care to put a smart processor in the battery (to reduce costs/make it smaller/etc).
I have the exact same issue and although it is a nuisance, I have found a workaround to keep using the phone. Simply physically removing the battery and replacing it will increase your remaining battery power substantially. I normally wait till the first low battery reminder to do this. Also, how do I set the phone to never turn off no matter how low the battery gets? This would also be fine with me.
utbiglall said:
I have the exact same issue and although it is a nuisance, I have found a workaround to keep using the phone. Simply physically removing the battery and replacing it will increase your remaining battery power substantially. I normally wait till the first low battery reminder to do this. Also, how do I set the phone to never turn off no matter how low the battery gets? This would also be fine with me.
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I didn't run into this issue until I reflashed my ROM to one with W6.1. Then, rather than get 12-13 hrs with my 3amp battery, I'd get 6. I used my original battery, but when I put the 3amp back in, I still had 47% left.
It's the ROM, and until there's a fix, it would be a pain to pull and replace the battery just to work around. I've done this several times recently when I'm on battery power, but I'd rather not.
Anybody heard of any other fixes, outside monitor, or do we wait until we get a Windows Mobile 6.1 fix?
Still no luck?
Hello,
Has anyone been able to find a solution for this. I am ordering the extended battery today. I will try to fully discharge it and then recharge it as was suggested and report back.
I emailed Mugen. We went back and forth with them trying to troubleshoot whether it's the battery or OS. They were clueless, but did offer an RMA to replace the battery. I pay the postage. Not sure if I'll send it back if it's the OS. I pull and replace the battery right now. It's a real pain, and I hate opening the case so much, but it's the only way I can get an accurate read.
PhoenixAG said:
This is a very valid issue which I have faced many times when using a 3rd party extended battery with other phones.
Not sure how to solve it though, although I have the 3000mah on order myself.
I think the battery reading is given by the battery itself, and most of these 3rd party manufacturers don't really care to put a smart processor in the battery (to reduce costs/make it smaller/etc).
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The processor is required for these types of lithium ion batteries because it regulates the charging of the battery. If it didn't the battery would not charge properly, or maybe not even charge at all.
There is no solution for now, people from other forums tries to patch battdrvr.dll.
But two things may help a little:
1.You may completely disable battery monitoring
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\Battery rename or remove string battdrvr.dll
But you lost monitoring completely.
2. change HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\Battery\Order change value from 15 (in my case) to 0. - After this battery lasts longer until power off.
There is not complete hardware or software solution for this problem. We need to wait.
Low Battery warning:
By default, a PPC will sound a warning sound when the battery is running low (10%, fixed value), but there's no way to disable or change the notification. To enable this, so that it is visible in the "Sounds & Notifications" control panel, set:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Notifications\{A877D663-239C-47a7-9304-0D347F580408}\Default = "Low battery warning" (REGSZ string, no quotes)
Anybody have any updates on this? I have noticed this more on WM6.1, but it was still an issue on WM6. I just find this so annoying!
Is there any radio that can fix this? I noiced that this battery reading issue only occurs when the Phone Signal is on. When off, it never happens to me. Or it seems. So it has something to do with the radio.
bump, anyone got a solution?
this is very interesting, i bought the seidio 3200 battery i am having the same problems. i just tired the
change HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\Battery\Order change value from 15 (in my case) to 0
i am going to see how that works out throughout the day
Tried It
I am having same issue, reset the registry key to "0" and ran for a full day, no change, still incorrect reading. I have a 2700 Mah battery and the charge indicater is completely wrong on it. I have cycled the battery as per reccoemndations, but still get wrong power remaining readings. Can remove the battery and resets itselft to a more correct reading.
I am out of ideas, guess we need someone from HTC to chime in with a hardware fix.
MWS
ms0529 said:
I am having same issue, reset the registry key to "0" and ran for a full day, no change, still incorrect reading. I have a 2700 Mah battery and the charge indicater is completely wrong on it. I have cycled the battery as per reccoemndations, but still get wrong power remaining readings. Can remove the battery and resets itselft to a more correct reading.
I am out of ideas, guess we need someone from HTC to chime in with a hardware fix.
MWS
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i have tried it too and it still does the same thing. i would still need to pull the battery and restart the device for the batt meter to get a more accurate reading. i could do it about 3 times before the battery dies completely.
is there this problem with all extended batteries or just with the larger ones?
the reason I ask is that I've got a $17 credit at Amazon and was thinking of grabbing a 1600mah battery, it's only like $22 with ship so I'll only pay a few bucks for it really...
I wanted to get the larger one but it's fat and won't fit standard carrying case, but the 1600 is slim and will fit in place a regular battery
Hi there M8s,
I've just acquired a used G1 lately and i was shocked with the battery life on this little fella and my guess was, it's used and the original user was one of these charger freaks who always plug their phones in charger all the time and so the battery is all messed up "4~6 Hours Max".
anyway, i googled around a bit and looked here and there and found out that it's actually an issue when it comes to the G1 battery with estimated 8 to 10 hours battery cycle "more or less".
finally i set out to try out an old trick that really helped me with my old trusty HTC touch "Elfin" and it's as follows...
1 - Fully drain the battery
2 - Take out the battery and the sim card and hold the power "End" button for 10 or more seconds "i have no idea why ?????"
3 - Put back the battery and the sim card and power your G1 back on and you'll find some more juice " "
4 - Wait till it cut off again.
5 - plug in the charger and power your G1 back on.
6 - as soon as the system loads and the home screen is there activate the wireless, Bluetooth & set screen brightness to full "if you use APNdroid to cut off your 3g connection, disable it"
7 - wait till it's fully charged and make sure from (Settings>About>Status) that it's 100% and not ninety something.
8 - if you got some more time leave it there for another hour or so.
9 - Disable wireless, Bluetooth and set the screen brightness to whatever you do.
10 - Take the G1 off the plug and start using it as you usually do
with me doing this trick with the G1 i got my battery to sustain a cycle of exactly 13~14 Hours from original 6 Hours when i first got it and i only did it 2 times so far and still to go...
i don't know if this will make any difference to anyone or not, but i hope it helps in anyway...
so try it out and tell how does it work out for you.
p.s. sorry for any English mistakes "not my main language"
p.s.2 this trick is also applicable to HTC Touch "Elfin"
Good Luck
"Hope it comes sticky "
Re: Possible method to enhance G1 Battery life "In Details"
I'm gonna try this and let you know my results
Thanks
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sounds interessting, gonna try that too (3g connection stuff isn't necessary i guess, you only have to drain the battery somehow?)
might wiping the battery stats at some point help too?
Or just do this:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Troubleshooting#Battery_recalibration
About wiping the battery status, it did help a little.
and for r3s-rt suggestion "Thank you" is also regrading wiping battery status which as i just said it does help a little "but might not help some"
You don't just wipe battery stats. You recalibrate the battery which in turn will usually provide the desired effect that you also get by using your method. It just seems easier to recalibrate than all of what you said. Not trying to compete with you, just pointing out a simpler step.
Also, just wiping battery stats without actually recalibrating does nothing. It's just a waste of time.
I remember this guide when I still had my Touch too...
did you got this from saurabh???
nope i didn't get this from saurabh or any one else, it's just than i'm a developer and at some point i was testing something and through a power output graph i found that when charging "any" device while powering some major function such as wireless or Bluetooth it does push the battery beyond it's current charge capacity "if and only if the capacity was not matching stock condition"...
Im not sure but i think it help me enhance Battery life on MT3G.For 9h still 45% and withot this "hack" was battery out in 10-12h
So after reading everywhere on the forums how amazing the Atrix's battery life is, I took a look into my phone to see why mine was so shoddy. Turns out that when I type *#*#INFO#*#* on the dialer and go to Battery history, under Sensor usage it says that the Android System has been using it 100% of the time the phone has been on for "Since last unplugged", "Total since boot", and "Total in all time". The thing is, I stopped using auto brightness a few days ago, so I don't know what the problem is. Is anyone else having this problem? Is this typical of the Atrix? My N1 never had this problem. Any suggestions please? Thanks.
fl13dl1c3 said:
So after reading everywhere on the forums how amazing the Atrix's battery life is, I took a look into my phone to see why mine was so shoddy. Turns out that when I type *#*#INFO#*#* on the dialer and go to Battery history, under Sensor usage it says that the Android System has been using it 100% of the time the phone has been on for "Since last unplugged", "Total since boot", and "Total in all time". The thing is, I stopped using auto brightness a few days ago, so I don't know what the problem is. Is anyone else having this problem? Is this typical of the Atrix? My N1 never had this problem. Any suggestions please? Thanks.
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I have the same battery drain issue while the phone is on stanby. I fully charge my battery to 100%, left the wifi on and went to sleep. Woke up and battery is 60%. Try again the next night. 100% battery, turn wifi off and when I woke up the battery was 96%. So from 10pm-5am i lost on 4%. So something is wrong with our wifi sensor.
Well leaving wifi on will drain the battery. My issue is the proximity sensor I believe. I factory reset my phone just now and I'm still plagued with the same issue. So I don't believe it's a rogue app. Can anyone look at their battery history and tell me their usage percentage? I'm afraid my problem is a hardware issue now.
Can anyone check out their battery info with *#*#INFO#*#* and tell me their Sensor Usage by Android System? I just need to confirm to see if this is a hardware issue for me. Thanks!
I'm not having any battery issues and my sensor usage is 100%.
I leave GPS on, I've been texting on and off, played about half an hour of angry birds, and spent maybe 30 minutes on a call. Started at 8am now it's 1:47pm and my battery is at 60%. I'm not using juice defender or any battery management software.
Hope this helps.
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Can anyone check out their battery info with *#*#INFO#*#* and tell me their Sensor Usage by Android System? I just need to confirm to see if this is a hardware issue for me. Thanks!
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Mine shows the same thing. I don't think this is an error. The system needs to be aware. This sensor could be the unlock button. I have great stand by batt unless wifi is on which is normal
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Ah I see, thanks for your input guys. It's just that I haven't had the greatest battery life, I can just see it drop with battery circle widget sometimes :/. Plus, coming from a N1, its sensor usage was low so I thought this was a problem. But this puts my worries to rest, thanks.
Seems every Atrix is a new world, just as my Milestone.
Do you guys have "Sensor Rotation" enabled in the Phone preferences? This was known to drain the battery of the Nexus S/Vibrant.
Hi everybody
I make this thread to know if my battery becomes faulty or not, because I didn't change it since 2013, and now I get 2h30-3h SOT
I checked in the *#4636 menu and the battery itself, everything's good
Also, when I launch " Quick Start " from the *#0#* menu, my battery level always falls back
So, is my battery faulty ? How many time your battery last ? did you change it ?
If your battery is swollen it may be time to change the battery.
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If your battery is swollen it may be time to change the battery.
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It isn't, but I feel like something's wrong with it
For example, today I've lost 35% in an hour of Youtube, it supposed to be lower, around 15-20%
So I changed my battery, and with a moderate usage I can get 3h30 to 4h15 of SOT, very good
I have seen better battery stats than mine. I don't know If something's wrong with my device (I have warranty tho so if it is, I can replace it)
I noticed that wifi is at the top of the list so I'm not sure what's going on.
I have greenify set for facebook because It destroys any battery. Also I disabled my location in case it was google now.
Accubattery shows 55% consumption while screen on (3h 29 SOT) while 38% of the battery gone while the screen is off (80% of that time is in deep sleep)
In the android's battery stats, wifi appears above screen in battery consumption.
Overall it's 16h 45 min of total battery life at 5% battery left.
I have seen 5h, 7h SOT so I don't exactly know what to expect.
I really need a hand because I can't let this pass if it's really a battery issue.
Thanks in advance.
Maybe you want to post a BBS log in this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884 to get proper help.
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I have seen better battery stats than mine. I don't know If something's wrong with my device (I have warranty tho so if it is, I can replace it)
I noticed that wifi is at the top of the list so I'm not sure what's going on.
I have greenify set for facebook because It destroys any battery. Also I disabled my location in case it was google now.
Accubattery shows 55% consumption while screen on (3h 29 SOT) while 38% of the battery gone while the screen is off (80% of that time is in deep sleep)
In the android's battery stats, wifi appears above screen in battery consumption.
Overall it's 16h 45 min of total battery life at 5% battery left.
I have seen 5h, 7h SOT so I don't exactly know what to expect.
I really need a hand because I can't let this pass if it's really a battery issue.
Thanks in advance.
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Nobody knows which device, bootloader status, dual sim, WiFi, apps, settings, rom etc. you are using. So please be so kind and provide these informations.
Also a full cycle of better battery stats is useful with all screens provided.
And as bullfinch110 said: there are threads(older) with battery tips
I'm sorry. I couldn't find a way to upload screens without external links and xda wouldn't let me.
Its xt1641, dual sim but i've only charged it with one.
Stock 6.0.1 Rom
Locked bootloader
Wifi is always on in that cycle. I've disabled today "enable wifi on deepsleep" to see what's up
I've also restored network settings.