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I was just reading through tons of news on portals, and I can't find any info about Nexus S or Galaxy Nexus and 4.2 being rolled out. I mean, Google surely has already decided what to do with us.
I mean honestly, I know Cyanogen or AOKP, or hopefully Rasbean will keep updating my favourite phone ever (really, I have never had a phone this awesome. Pioneer of it's price range and specs!) but I want to know if Google still likes their Nexus S.
it cant be that hard, I mean there really isnt anything new.
I wondered how long it would take for a thread title like this would come up..HAHA! :laugh:
Can't see why not, it got 4.1 so should get 4.2 as it's not a huge update. Well, that's my wishful thinking anyway!
Still JB, will get
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Yes, the Nexus S will get 4.2 officially. It will get 5.0 as well, if not officially then by CyanogenMod.
JavaJunkay said:
I was just reading through tons of news on portals, and I can't find any info about Nexus S or Galaxy Nexus and 4.2 being rolled out. I mean, Google surely has already decided what to do with us.
I mean honestly, I know Cyanogen or AOKP, or hopefully Rasbean will keep updating my favourite phone ever (really, I have never had a phone this awesome. Pioneer of it's price range and specs!) but I want to know if Google still likes their Nexus S.
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Question is not will the Nexus S get 4.2 but when As soon as sources come available.
kwbr said:
Question is not will the Nexus S get 4.2 but when As soon as sources come available.
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I'd say ^^ pretty much ends this convo. Right on target.
Nice to hear all that. Nexus S ftw
Why not
Our Nexus S it's untill powerfull...
It better! I just bought a used one yesterday!
I think the chances are pretty good that the NS will get 4.2, but beyond that I'm skeptical. We're coming up on the phone's two-year anniversary for one thing. It's also begun to chug a bit with Jelly Bean, and I doubt the next major update will be any less resource intensive. Between the age and the hardware limitations, I suspect we're in the twilight months of Google support for the Nexus S.
must will get 4.2.... not official no problem :laugh:
this will probably be the last update the Nexus S gets.
Good thing tho, you know most likely that XDA will have some form of port.
I'm getting the Nexus 4 tho!!! my contract is almost up. I might even get it off contract! (AU$400 for 32GB, thats dirt cheap compared to the iPhone 5 which is AU$900! That's less than half the price, for better specs... and android... and build quality is improved dramatically from the previous Nexusesss)
I think it will get 4.2 ... it an incremental upgrade, so anything 'jellybean' we should get
Can't wait to try 4.2
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It will get official 4.2 for sure, but key lime pye will be here only unofficial.
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last year, when I bought my Nexus S, someone told me: "It's a year's old phone.. don't waste your money..."
I'm almost sure for 4.2 ...
I personally think about a Google "3 letters law" for Nexus devices. Nexus One went from E(Eclair) to G(Gingerbread), passing by Frojo, Nexus S will go from G to J passing by ICS, and GNex will "live" from I to L ... Officially speaking, I mean And, of course, I hope there will always be some clever group (like CyanogenMod, for example) or "one man band" who enjoy to develop ROM or kernel for our preferred devices :fingers-crossed:
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It better! I just bought a used one yesterday!
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You made the right choice .
It remains to be seen if the Nexus S and Xoom will get 4.2 or if 4.1.2 was the last update. We won't know until 4.2 gets released to AOSP. I will say that since they seem to have axed the Honeycomb-style tablet interface from 4.2, the Xoom may be out. As for the Nexus S...historically Google has only maintained support for the current and previous phone generation, which would now be the Nexus 4 and Galaxy Nexus. That said, however, I don't see anything major that would lead me to believe that the Nexus S couldn't run 4.2...unless they tossed out support for capacitive buttons entirely.
Regardless of whether or not there is a stock 4.2 ROM for either device, I'm sure the developers here will have custom ROMs that have it baked in.
I currently own a Verizon Galaxy Nexus and I'm running Cyanogenmod 10.1. I understand that it's easy to develop for Nexus phones because their drivers are open sourced or something along the lines of that. Throughout the year I've owned it, I've had next to no bugs running CM. With that being said, I'm in the market for a new phone and I was thinking about the S4. I know that it hasn't been confirmed whether or not the S4 will get CM but running touchwiz is not an option for me.
Assuming that it does get CM, can it be expected to run as well as a Nexus phone? I've ran CM on other phones like an HTC Incredible 2 and Droid 4, and they were plagued with bugs. I don't know if anyone had any experience with the S3, but I heard CM10 didn't run any better on that than it did on the Galaxy nexus.
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I currently own a Verizon Galaxy Nexus and I'm running Cyanogenmod 10.1. I understand that it's easy to develop for Nexus phones because their drivers are open sourced or something along the lines of that. Throughout the year I've owned it, I've had next to no bugs running CM. With that being said, I'm in the market for a new phone and I was thinking about the S4. I know that it hasn't been confirmed whether or not the S4 will get CM but running touchwiz is not an option for me.
Assuming that it does get CM, can it be expected to run as well as a Nexus phone? I've ran CM on other phones like an HTC Incredible 2 and Droid 4, and they were plagued with bugs. I don't know if anyone had any experience with the S3, but I heard CM10 didn't run any better on that than it did on the Galaxy nexus.
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Since you are Verizon you would be getting the 9505 with the Snapdragon chip, According to CM founder who recently left Samsung CM should run perfectly well on it:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/25/founder-cyanogenmod-steve-kondik-leaves-samsung/
Whether we get full support for all the extra sensors in the S4 in CM is a different matter, but only time will tell on that front.
I am also a Galaxy nexus owner upgrading to S4 which hopefully arrives tomorrow.
CM on Galaxy device < CM on Nexus device.
You already answered your own question. Samsung keeps some of the drivers closed, the camera driver for example. If you are absolutely against touchwiz I would wait for the N5, or pick up a N4 on craigslist for cheap.
I came from 2 years on a Nexus S. Adjusting to Touchwiz is interesting, but I am embracing it. AOSP was getting boring. Touchwiz has improved quite a bit even from ICS...
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If the ATT bootloader becomes and unlockable and when the Google version is released will it be possible to turn an ATT S4 into a Google Nexus version 100% and get all the updates from Google once that ROM is loaded? I was tempted to return the ATT and wait for the Google but since I got it though an upgrade I will prob just keep it.
Thanks
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If the ATT bootloader becomes and unlockable and when the Google version is released will it be possible to turn an ATT S4 into a Google Nexus version 100% and get all the updates from Google once that ROM is loaded? I was tempted to return the ATT and wait for the Google but since I got it though an upgrade I will prob just keep it.
Thanks
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I think maybe it can be. If you look at the LG Optimus G you can convert it into a Nexus 4.
richard371 said:
If the ATT bootloader becomes and unlockable and when the Google version is released will it be possible to turn an ATT S4 into a Google Nexus version 100% and get all the updates from Google once that ROM is loaded? I was tempted to return the ATT and wait for the Google but since I got it though an upgrade I will prob just keep it.
Thanks
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I doubt you will be able to convert it into a device that receives updates from Google, because those updates are pushed based on your device's ID. The Device ID will always be a AT&T Galaxy S4.
However, that doesn't mean that the community won't create their own distros and OTA's that can be applied to any Galaxy S4 whenever Google pushes updates to their Galaxy S4.
I'm sure the day after the rom is released it will be available for us to try out
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Thanks guys. I am coming from an iPhone 5 which I prefer and will keep as my primary device. I love the S4 as it is full of features (gimmicks) and eye candy but is no match for the iPhone 5 in terms of robustness etc. Yes iOS has become stale but even at half the cpu power as the S4 it still feels faster and more solid hardware wise. Just purchased the nano to micro sim adapter for $2 so i will be swapping back and forth and enjoying the best of both devices.
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Thanks guys. I am coming from an iPhone 5 which I prefer and will keep as my primary device. I love the S4 as it is full of features (gimmicks) and eye candy but is no match for the iPhone 5 in terms of robustness etc. Yes iOS has become stale but even at half the cpu power as the S4 it still feels faster and more solid hardware wise. Just purchased the nano to micro sim adapter for $2 so i will be swapping back and forth and enjoying the best of both devices.
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I did that for a while and then just stayed with android. I liked iPhone but os was boring quick and biggest issue was trying to type on a small screen and use it felt weird quick as I was used to bigger screen and could never go back to iPhone again. This phone lags big time but with cm10 it will fly and the note 2 or HTC one flies also so you can't compare this crappy Samsung rom on sgs4 to android phones in general.
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We will get aosp (nexus software) as soon as the bootloader is unlocked...so we will probably have nexus software before the google edition is released
There are already custom aosp roms released for the phone that are working good...only thing holding back att users is the bootloader. But the fact they exist tells us that we will have a nexus like experience on our s4...idk why everyone thinks it relies on the google edition...because it doesn't. Nearly every phone here on xda has the ability to run aosp aka nexus software
The only benefit of the google edition is it will hopefully bring good source code allowing devs to fix bugs much more easily and incorporate the new sensors into the roms
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We will get aosp (nexus software) as soon as the bootloader is unlocked...so we will probably have nexus software before the google edition is released
There are already custom aosp roms released for the phone that are working good...only thing holding back att users is the bootloader. But the fact they exist tells us that we will have a nexus like experience on our s4...idk why everyone thinks it relies on the google edition...because it doesn't. Nearly every phone here on xda has the ability to run aosp aka nexus software
The only benefit of the google edition is it will hopefully bring good source code allowing devs to fix bugs much more easily and incorporate the new sensors into the roms
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let's hope the stock android version on the google gs4 is not the same stock android on nexus 4. because if it is, then there will be no gs4 sensor support in the google gs4.
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I think maybe it can be. If you look at the LG Optimus G you can convert it into a Nexus 4.
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the reason the lg optimus g was able to take nexus 4 stock android and use it is because 1.) the lg optimus g finally got upgraded to android 4.1.2 which gave it the same rmp/tz as android 4.2.2. 2.) they share the exact same hardware since they are both made by LG and the models copied each other. the same wont be able to be said for the gs4, so it will take alot of modifying. much more than it does for the lg optimus g to run nexus 4 roms.
I'm patiently waiting for my 8.0 to arrive. While doing this I've skimmed through the forums and such gleeming information. The 8.0 has been out since April / May and it seems compared to the other Note products that I've owned (all three of them) the ROM development and general traffic seems to be on the light side.
Not criticizing.
Is this because the devs are waiting for a source to drop? Is this because the majority feel that Samsung has made a solid product (hardware and software) that there is little to adjust or complain about the product (which is a good thing) Or the last not so good scenario that thus is not a very popular device because of odd size, design, price point, economy, cheaper alternatives, waiting for something better?
I don't want to do the usual "Dude, thus place is Dead! Why?" Lol.
I'm interested in what others who have been here longer feel about this.
Thanks.
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I just got my note 8.0 (international version n5100) few days ago. Although you are right there isn't much development going on. The problem is that most of the developers are in USA. The US version of the Note 8.0 (at&t) and the Canadian version have yet to have root. So that is why you don't see much activity around here. Once the At&t version can be modified. I would expect more developers to show up.
Best buy and such is just selling the WiFi version anyways sent they?
I guess that brings me to another question from what I've noticed: are people buying this mainly as a 3g device to use as a phablet? AFAIK mine will just be a WiFi only.
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Yes Best Buy is most likely selling the wifi version unless they made you sign a contract that is a safe bet.
There are a bunch of Note 8.0 which makes me believe we will most likely need another sub forum once the North American Note 8.0 have a development scene. Since they have slightly different hardware. earpiece removed etc.
Since the At&t model only have data no phone or SMS. Most people have either the LTE model or the wifi model. Only the wifi model has a development scene.
Custom roms would be nice for some fun but I'm very happy with stock rooted. It's a solid device.
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I'm all for custom roms....But, I like the stock rom very much. I chose the 5100 because it offers everything in one package. If I need to make a phone call, no problem. Send a text, I'm covered, plus wifi. Would loved to have had LTE but with T-Mobile 3G+ I don't feel rained on!! And yes I live in a refarmed area. For me, living in the U.S., the 5100 3G is the best option. In other countries that were offered LTE (voice+data) that would be the way to go.
The reason I go with Samsung in general is because I don't want to have to flash anything custom. Over the 5 years or so of owning Android, I've been through a lot of devices, and I can't begin to imagine how much time I've wasted flashing, restoring, backing up, etc, etc. There are more important things to life than customizing your gadgets. In short, I don't care whether this place is dead, active, or whether there is a single custom ROM or kernel out there for this device. Samsung provides a solid device that performs well, and they are about as up to date with updates as can be reasonably expected. I have no complaints.
Just as an aside, I've flashed many custom ROMs and kernels to my previous Galaxy S3. All of them made my performance and battery life far worse than stock, and most of them had serious issues with their themes.
That's maybe because you made poor choices on your Rom selections. It's definitely true there are nightmare roms out there.
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That's maybe because you made poor choices on your Rom selections. It's definitely true there are nightmare roms out there.
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No way man. I've always had the same issues with custom ROMs over the years. Stock has been the best since ICS hit. Most custom ROMs except the ones that are modified stock have issues.
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No way man. I've always had the same issues with custom ROMs over the years. Stock has been the best since ICS hit. Most custom ROMs except the ones that are modified stock have issues.
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Well I agree with that. As far as Samsung goes it is true that you're better off staying on something touchwiz based. This is true. All the CM and aosp stuff is plagued with problems. You're right about that. I actually like touch wiz ROMs especially for the note 2. Looks like the same with note 8. Once you lose the spen features you kinda lose the whole point of havin a Samsung device with spen. You're right
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Personally I just care about root because it opens up a lot of useful apps. Otherwise I haven't had issues with stock ROMs.
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I wish more no pc root options were available. Tried framaroot so I could install a few apps and small mods but haven't had any luck. I think stock rooted with small mods is best for the note. I had a transformer TF300T that I highly moded to get it to run at the speeds I now have on the note 8.0.
I think over time and with 4.2.2 or 4.3 the note 8.0 should see more in the development area.
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Rooting is always the first step for me and although custom roms are a handy shortcut there are many Xposed modules to help you to customise your device yourself.
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Thanks for opening this thread! The lack of custom Roms was one of the first things I recognised after buying the Note 8. I came over from a NExus 7 (2012) and as was stated here before, modding just took a lot of time from me. First it was fun to try out CM, AOKP Paranoidandroid etc. and these guys really have some good features. But I never kept a ROM longer than a few weeks because they were all horrible slow - still better than stock though. In the end I realized that it was the device itself that kept getting slower due to hardware issues and the custom ROMs just eased the problem because of the wipe I did every time. My phone is a HTC Evo 3d that also needs a lot of attention due to (in my opinion) horrible stock ROM.
Now after reading this thread and thinking about my experiences with the Note so far I have to admit I'm pretty happy with it. I Also don't care that it is still on 4.1 because 4.2 on the Nexus was just a pain with all the bugs and extra features were rare and useless for me. with 4.3 it seems to be the exact same story. So for now it's okay. Especially since I installed my favorite launcher after trying out TouchWIz
I just hope to see a good Android 5 ROM someday with S-Pen functions and so on, but that story isn't written yet
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There are a bunch of Note 8.0 which makes me believe we will most likely need another sub forum once the North American Note 8.0 have a development scene. Since they have slightly different hardware. earpiece removed etc.
Since the At&t model only have data no phone or SMS. Most people have either the LTE model or the wifi model. Only the wifi model has a development scene.
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So what are the differences between the n5100 and the i467?
telephony capability
LTE radio
ear speaker
ability to act as wifi hotspot
Anything other differences?
I like touchwiz. But I want cyanogenmod. I used cm on my s3 for more than a year.
I hope cm will be available for n5100 soon.
How are you guys liking the 8? I have the 10.1 wifi and I'm thinking of trading it for an 8 (wifi or AT&T LTE version)
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How are you guys liking the 8? I have the 10.1 wifi and I'm thinking of trading it for an 8 (wifi or AT&T LTE version)
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Start from the beginning of this thread for your answer.
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How are you guys liking the 8? I have the 10.1 wifi and I'm thinking of trading it for an 8 (wifi or AT&T LTE version)
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its a fantastic device, man...my wife has a 10.1, and its nothing like this tablet; you can one hand this guy, much smoother, and I am running CM 10.2 on it now, and its fast and smooth...great for taking everywhere, and, its more "phone like" than any other tablet...not tons of developement, but there are a couple of nice TW roms, both 4.1.2 and 4.2, plus now with cm 10.1 and 10.2, there is something for everyone!
I have the wifi model, and its easy to set it up for VOIP and sms/mms...
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its a fantastic device, man...my wife has a 10.1, and its nothing like this tablet; you can one hand this guy, much smoother, and I am running CM 10.2 on it now, and its fast and smooth...great for taking everywhere, and, its more "phone like" than any other tablet...not tons of developement, but there are a couple of nice TW roms, both 4.1.2 and 4.2, plus now with cm 10.1 and 10.2, there is something for everyone!
I have the wifi model, and its easy to set it up for VOIP and sms/mms...
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Does the Spen work with the CM roms?
Steve
... since the g2 and nexus 5 have (generally) the same specs, when you root the g2 is it turning it into a nexus 5 and can you use nexus 5 ROMS or no?
Thanks in advance..
Cheers!
wasabitobiko said:
... since the g2 and nexus 5 have (generally) the same specs, when you root the g2 is it turning it into a nexus 5 and can you use nexus 5 ROMS or no?
Thanks in advance..
Cheers!
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Greetings[emoji4][emoji4], its not turning into a nexus 5 UNTIL you can flash custom Roms that are compatible with your G2 aswell as being compatible with the Nexus 5 already, when I was rooted, I flashed Cyanogenmod 11/Paranoid Android/Mahdi Rom,etc, and I saw my phone as a Nexus 5 or even better, but yes you can flash Custom Roms that are compatible with the Nexus 5 for your G2.[emoji6][emoji6]
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Thats not correct. If you flash CM11 or PA on G2 it will be the same and it will look same as that ROM on Nexus 5 (since they have similar hardware). But you cant flash .zip file of Nexus 5 ROM on G2 because you will probably brick your phone.
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Thats not correct. If you flash CM11 or PA on G2 it will be the same and it will look same as that ROM on Nexus 5 (since they have similar hardware). But you cant flash .zip file of Nexus 5 ROM on G2 because you will probably brick your phone.
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I'm well aware that CM11 and PA can use Google Now Launcher, and I'm aware that Paranoid Android is based on Cyanogenmod, and that their both AOSP based Roms, because I've tested both of these Custom Roms, I wasn't telling him to flash a zip file of the Nexus 5 Rom, because it will(not probably) brick his phone, because the Nexus 5 runs different(not by much) hardware compared to the G2.
What I quoted in my last post stating "its not turning into a nexus 5 UNTIL you can flash custom Roms that are compatible with your G2 aswell as being compatible with the Nexus 5." i was stating that he can flash a Custom Rom that makes your G2 look and act like you would have a Nexus 5, not that he can flash a Nexus 5 Rom, I just want you to understand my last statement towards his question and this one aswell.
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I just thougt that your post was a little bit unclear to someone who is new to XDA, flashing and thoose stuff. Hope he will understand it now and not do anything wrong to brick his phone
EDIT: I know how to be a begginer (although I had Android devices for 3 years so far), G2 seems like kinda specific device. Loki bootloader, especially after nexus device is something completly strange, then thoose black and white lines... I had to spend few hours to read all stickies to understand some things.
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I just thougt that your post was a little bit unclear to someone who is new to XDA, flashing and thoose stuff. Hope he will understand it now and not do anything wrong to brick his phone
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I agree, hope all goes well.
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Thanks for clearing things up..
While not a total noob, I'm still learning. I've rooted several android devices.. HTC evo shift, 3d, sensation, nexus 7, 2x nexus 4 and B&N Nook HD+. Currently have a Nexus 4. I'm considering getting the G2 since it is very close in specs to the Nexus 5 but can be bought for about $100 less. Hence, my question. I realize that once you put a custom ROM on any device, it will look just like others' with that ROM but I was originally curious about being able to use Nexus 5 ROMs with the G2 since the specs are almost identical. My fear is that developer support for this device will wane, where support is constant with Nexus devices.
Thanks again for the help.
wasabitobiko said:
While not a total noob, I'm still learning. I've rooted several android devices.. HTC evo shift, 3d, sensation, nexus 7, 2x nexus 4 and B&N Nook HD+. Currently have a Nexus 4. I'm considering getting the G2 since it is very close in specs to the Nexus 5 but can be bought for about $100 less. Hence, my question. I realize that once you put a custom ROM on any device, it will look just like others' with that ROM but I was originally curious about being able to use Nexus 5 ROMs with the G2 since the specs are almost identical. My fear is that developer support for this device will wane, where support is constant with Nexus devices.
Thanks again for the help.
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I personally don't think developer support for the LG G2 will wane, there's still developer support for the Galaxy S3, I'm guessing since the Nexus Line is aimed more for developers(seeing the Nexus Line is really Developer Based Phones), is why its so popular (besides the fact of it running pure stock android, and not having any custom android skins on top of it, and receiving updates quicker than any other non-nexus device) and it's support won't wither anytime soon, because they're so many developers out there that most likely have a nexus device and are testing apps and Roms on, I'm guessing.[emoji4][emoji4][emoji4]
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