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Raspberry Pi project vs Atrix

I just came across this website. It's a $35 SoC system with a ARMv6 cpu and 256M RAM. The demo shows it plays 1080p H.264 video, XBMC, even Quake III well! Comparing its hardware with Atrix, I can't imagine how much processing power was wasted in Atrix.
http://www.raspberrypi.org/

Yeah that's sick.
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Exactly what I thought when i saw it. They say the GPU can outperform the Tegra2. But my opinion on why it runs so well is because it is running Linux, which has been heavily optimized throughout the years. Android is still an infant compared to Linux even if it is running a branch of Linux. It still hasn't been optimized to run on all the hardware that is currently being produced.
I'm willing to bet that if you could get android running on that board, it would be horribly laggy.
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d3athsd00r said:
Exactly what I thought when i saw it. They say the GPU can outperform the Tegra2. But my opinion on why it runs so well is because it is running Linux, which has been heavily optimized throughout the years. Android is still an infant compared to Linux even if it is running a branch of Linux. It still hasn't been optimized to run on all the hardware that is currently being produced.
I'm willing to bet that if you could get android running on that board, it would be horribly laggy.
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+1. android would lag the **** out of it. It would use 80% of the ram for itself.

Raspberry Pi looks very cool. My co-worker wants one, A lot of the improvements to linux that makes it faster today then just a few years ago really is in the Kernel. 2.6.32 is a rather old Kernel. There are speed improvements scheduling improvements and ext4 support that comes later. all those would improve android a lot.
The other problem comes though that most of android runs in Devik (spelling?) or in Java. naturally it's going to be slow, and that alone uses much of the ram on our phones. (though I'm glad ours has a GB worth, which it had to for webtop's sake)
If more of android ran natively it would be better.
I can't wait to see what the community does though with these neat little Raspberry Pies. (how are they meant to be plural?)

I have been watching these for at least the last 6 months. I am going to pick up a couple and have a few projects in mind. The first one will be a portable media center that will access my server at home. Going to attempt to tether with my phone for internet connection and then use a rii Bluetooth remote. Then I just have to carry a remote, hdmi cable, and the pi and have a full fledged xbmc anytime I travel. Have a few other ideas but going to see how that works first.
These are a great idea and plan on donating one for everyone i buy and hope you all do also. Just think of what this can teach kids and what they will be able to do when they get in their teenage years growing up with something like this.

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I plan to buy one too for the XBMC function. Going to be a killer device when it's hooked up with my NAS. I think this wireless mini keyboard will play well in this scenario: http://www.amazon.com/Palm-Sized-Wireless-Keyboard-Multi-Touch-Touchpad/dp/B004XY6LO8

http://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Multimedia-Handheld/dp/B004716NFE/ref=pd_vtp_e_4
This is the one I use with my home xbmc setup and it works great. going with BlueTooth for the PI. Took a week or so getting used to the touch-pad but now I can go around and do everything I need without even looking at it. Ultimate would be that with ir basic control on the back that I could do basic controls for my plasma and receiver. But cant have everything. LOL
After I get the media center going I am going to work on a in-car cpu. Would like a touch screen, gps, basic surfing, and media center that I can get to work with the stereo. Google music in the car! We will see how that goes though, that will be way beyond my capabilities but that is a project to learn something on.

qaplus said:
I just came across this website. It's a $35 SoC system with a ARMv6 cpu and 256M RAM. The demo shows it plays 1080p H.264 video, XBMC, even Quake III well! Comparing its hardware with Atrix, I can't imagine how much processing power was wasted in Atrix.
http://www.raspberrypi.org/
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In my opinion on why it runs so well is because it is running Linux, which has been heavily optimized throughout the years.

Nice7" Android Tablets - Like the Fire, half the price

UPDATE: There's an even better version out now. See this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598783
I got a 7" Android tablet on Amazon for a killer deal (I paid $129, but now it's at like $119). Here's the link.
It's almost identical to my friends Kindle fire and was almost half the cost. Here's the specs:
1.0 ghz processor (overclocked to 1.3)
7" capacitive screen (screen response is great)
4gb mem
512mb RAM
USB OTG host compatible (this is great. Plug in you portable hard drive and watch movies, use a USB keyboard, etc. Comes with the host cable).
HDMI out
MicroSD card slot (up to 32gb)
Comes with a USB host cable, USB cable to plug it into your computer (this will even charge the tablet even though it also comes with a proprietary wall charger) and of course the proprietary wall charger.
So far I haven't had any issues with it at all. Streams netflix great, I loaded ADW launcher and a couple themes,a few games and other apps and everything works very well.
The HDMI it uses is a mini HDMI port, not micro. It has a proprietary charger. UPDATE: I plugged it onto my computer and found it will in fact charge when plugged into a power source via the mini USB port!!! . It came rooted! I installed ad free and titanium backup pro and both work without any issues (blocks ads, can freeze system apps I don't like, etc.). I also installed super user, but it doesn't appear to need it.
I've also installed AnTuTu CPU master. At first I was able to clock it to 1488mhz no problem, but for some reason now it freezes when I clock over 1296 (but is stable at 1296). I don't really care about the over clocking though and usually have it set lower to save battery.
It came with documents to go, flash 11, adobe reader, google maps, all the basic apps you'd need. It also came with super HD player, up to 2160p support for HDMI out (although I never use this so I can't really comment on it's performance. I just checked the HDMI out once using a 700mb movie file on Mobo player)
Another thing I like is how fast it boots. like 35 seconds from power on till its ready to use. MUCH faster than my XOOM. It does freeze up sometimes, usually not the whole device, just I have to kill and reload apps sometimes. Not a huge deal and for the price so well worth it.
If you're looking for a a inexpensive 7" tablet, I don't think you'll find a better deal. Hope this helps!
Feel free to PM me if you have any questions!

How's the HDMI output and does it come with a miniUSB charger or one of those stupid proprietary chargers like those cheap Coby tablets use? What about hackability? Have you rooted it? This sounds like the tablet I've been waiting for......

754boy said:
How's the HDMI output and does it come with a miniUSB charger or one of those stupid proprietary chargers like those cheap Coby tablets use? What about hackability? Have you rooted it? This sounds like the tablet I've been waiting for......
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The HDMI is fine (mini HDMI port, not micro). It has a proprietary charger (bummer)UPDATE it will in fact also charge via the mini USB port!!!. It came rooted! I installed ad free and titanium backup pro and both work without any issues (blocks ads, can freeze system apps I don't like, etc.). I also installed super user, but it doesn't appear to need it.
I've also installed AnTuTu CPU master. At first I was able to clock it to 1488mhz no problem, but for some reason now it freezes when I clock over 1296 (but is stable at 1296). I don't really care about the over clocking though and usually have it set lower to save battery.
It came with documents to go, flash 11, adobe reader, google maps, all the basic apps you'd need. It also came with super HD player, up to 2160p support for HDMI out (although I never use this so I can't really comment on it's performance. I just checked the HDMI out once using a 700mb movie file on Mobo player)
Another thing I like is how fast it boots. like 35 seconds from power on till its ready to use. MUCH faster than my XOOM. It does freeze up sometimes, usually not the whole device, just I have to kill and reload apps sometimes. Not a huge deal and for the price so well worth it.
Hope this helps!

Seriously about to buy this so I can use it as a portable emulator. Wonder if any of my controllers would work
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Just ordered one After reading your review I think it's worth the risk. That proprietary charger isn't that big of a deal considering the rest of the package.

754boy said:
Just ordered one After reading your review I think it's worth the risk. That proprietary charger isn't that big of a deal considering the rest of the package.
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Let me know what you think of it and if you happen to come by any place I can get a custom ROM (that would be ideal). Thanks!

I know a couple of people here have got this tablet and was wondering if anyone has tried or will try to flash this clockwork mod recovery?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1378594
I'm a little nervous to try it myself... If anyone has done this let me know how it worked out. Thanks!

I am not trying to rain on your parade, but the screen resolution (WVGA 800x480) is really horrible for a 7" tablet. You could make out each individual pixel with naked eyes.
It also seems like it's based on a bargain basement Cortex A8 single-core processor. It's difficult to find any credible spec on the "BOXCHIP A10".
All things considered, why not just go with the Kindle Fire? It's got a better display (at least resolution/density-wise) and a better CPU (no name single core vs. TI OMAP 4430 dual core A8). The Fire also has a better dev support with custom ROMs.

enigma00 said:
I am not trying to rain on your parade, but the screen resolution (WVGA 800x480) is really horrible for a 7" tablet. You could make out each individual pixel with naked eyes.
It also seems like it's based on a bargain basement Cortex A8 single-core processor. It's difficult to find any credible spec on the "BOXCHIP A10".
All things considered, why not just go with the Kindle Fire? It's got a better display (at least resolution/density-wise) and a better CPU (no name single core vs. TI OMAP 4430 dual core A8). The Fire also has a better dev support with custom ROMs.
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I've watched video side by side a kindle and yes the kindle is a bit better, but nowhere near $80 better. I think the Amazon listing is a typo, looks more like 800*600 to me... Not HD, but totally watchable (you can't see the pixels while watching a movie...)
A huge plus is that I can plug in a usb drive (or my 1TB portable HD) AND a 32GB sd card on this. With a couple 32gb thumb drives (or SD cards) and my hard drive I can carry around a MASSIVE library of videos and music in my pocket. Kindle doesn't support USB host, doesn't have an SD slot (so lame), and only has 6GB of space available for user content (yes, only 6GB...). And this didn't come with the lame kindle UI.
I just checked and the price is down to $115, I've had a few cheap tablets and this is the only one I've been happy with. Due to the USB host and SD card functionality I would rather have this over a kindle any day... IMHO.

You *think* it's 800x600, or you *know*?
The picture shown on Amazon looks like a wide-screen format, so it can't possibly be 800x600 (4:3 aspect ratio).
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I've watched video side by side a kindle and yes the kindle is a bit better, but nowhere near $80 better. I think the Amazon listing is a typo, looks more like 800*600 to me... Not HD, but totally watchable (you can't see the pixels while watching a movie...)
A huge plus is that I can plug in a usb drive (or my 1TB portable HD) AND a 32GB sd card on this. With a couple 32gb thumb drives (or SD cards) and my hard drive I can carry around a MASSIVE library of videos and music in my pocket. Kindle doesn't support USB host, doesn't have an SD slot (so lame), and only has 6GB of space available for user content (yes, only 6GB...). And this didn't come with the lame kindle UI.
I just checked and the price is down to $115, I've had a few cheap tablets and this is the only one I've been happy with. Due to the USB host and SD card functionality I would rather have this over a kindle any day... IMHO.
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seedofchaos said:
Seriously about to buy this so I can use it as a portable emulator. Wonder if any of my controllers would work
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If it has Honeycomb or ICS then it will support standard gamepad like Logitech, however, the pic looks like it use miniUSB so you need and adaptor. Or you can buy one of those bluetooth gamepad, the support is depends on the software.

enigma00 said:
I am not trying to rain on your parade, but the screen resolution (WVGA 800x480) is really horrible for a 7" tablet. You could make out each individual pixel with naked eyes.
It also seems like it's based on a bargain basement Cortex A8 single-core processor. It's difficult to find any credible spec on the "BOXCHIP A10".
All things considered, why not just go with the Kindle Fire? It's got a better display (at least resolution/density-wise) and a better CPU (no name single core vs. TI OMAP 4430 dual core A8). The Fire also has a better dev support with custom ROMs.
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Well I got mine 2 days ago and for the price I paid, this thing kicks ass. It does exactly what I need it to do: browse the net and play the occasional game while I'm on the toliet or in bed. My 32GB card is on the way and I'm gonna load it up with videos. Admittedly, the resolution is not the best...especially with my phone having a qHD screen lol. But it is capacitive and blows away those cheap ass Coby tablets I despise so much.
Mine also came rooted and I'm looking around the net to find more info on maybe some custom roms for it. Sure I could have bought a Kindle Fire, but this is more than enough to tide me over until those rumored $199 Tegra3 tablets roll around

enigma00 said:
You *think* it's 800x600, or you *know*?
The picture shown on Amazon looks like a wide-screen format, so it can't possibly be 800x600 (4:3 aspect ratio).
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yeah, you're right, I contacted the company I got it from to confirm and it's 800x480. But I still think it's an awesome tab for the money. They're out of stock on Amazon now but will have more in next week they said (I'm getting another one for my wife).

can you please post some pictures
and if you can make a video
thnx.

I'll try to get some images or a video up soon.
I also just noticed that while it come with a proprietary charger, when I plugged it into my computer via the mini USB that would also charge it! I plugged it into a USB wall charger and that charged it to. There really is no need for the proprietary charger except its 2000MAh and it will charge faster than via USB.
Just another reason I love this tablet ;-)

AspenMan said:
I'll try to get some images or a video up soon.
I also just noticed that while it come with a proprietary charger, when I plugged it into my computer via the mini USB that would also charge it! I plugged it into a USB wall charger and that charged it to. There really is no need for the proprietary charger except its 2000MAh and it will charge faster than via USB.
Just another reason I love this tablet ;-)
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I forgot to mention that too in my rant above lol. I was surprised because those cheap ass Coby tablets I despise so much, will not charge via the miniUSB port. Great buy!

For 119$ I can get a real android tablet in a used Gtab 7. And its 2x better.
These chinese tablets rarely have a working android market, screen resolution is also poop.
Could just buy an Ainol 7" ICS Tablet for 150$

TheMuffStuff said:
For 119$ I can get a real android tablet in a used Gtab 7. And its 2x better.
These chinese tablets rarely have a working android market, screen resolution is also poop.
Could just buy an Ainol 7" ICS Tablet for 150$
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This one has the real Google market. I wouldn't want to buy used cause you'd get no warranty, this one came with a year warranty.
I've heard the Ainol doesn't support flash, that was a big requirement for me, but others may not care.

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Lapdock HARDMOD - CottonCandy ICS FXI - NATIVE

Hello
Just wanted to let you all know that although my Atrix is no longer in use, I have the lapdock lying around.
It is a good piece of hardware and I have been toying with finding a way to embed the actual atrix itself inside the lapdock. However, the real problem there is that there is no use for doing that since the Atrix's native dock functions suck!!! I also considered and toyed with the Raspberry, but its not meant for that.
However I have come across this puppy: FXI Tech Cotton Candy
and my plan is to embed it inside my Lapdock and create something actually useful with that hardware.
The FXI Cotton Candy officially supports GB, ICS and now Ubuntu 12.
For anyone who doesn't know what it is:
"FXI Tech Cotton Candy packs more power in a tiny space. It has a dual-core ARM Cortex A9 as its processor and the quad-core ARM Mali-400MP for graphics. Connectivity options include Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR and WiFi 802.11 b/g/n. On both ends are USB 2.0 and HDMI out connectors and there’s one micro USB 2.0 connector on the side. It has 1GB RAM and a microSD slot for up to 64GB of expandable storage."
Given its size, it easily fits disassembled into the dock connector that rotates on the actual lapdock.
Does this sort of thing interest anyone?
I'll keep you guys posted as my adventures with that continue.

Sounds interesting and would love to see this kind of thing work.
Good look man hope it works for ya
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Did you pre-order one?
If not, the likelyhood of you getting one this year is almost zero. They have stopped pre-orders as they have filled up on those, and currently have nobody to do mass production for them. Since this is their situation and they have to find someone to build these units, you most likely won't see any this year, as it takes time to complete all the necessary steps to put a product into production. Your best bet may be one of these to test out your idea:
http://www.mobilenapps.com/articles/2246/20120518/74-mk802-versus-200-fxi-cotton-candy.htm

If you can't get hold of one maybe look into the MK802 PC, you might find that easier to add onto the lapdock too looks like it already has a hdmi and a usb so i think you may just have to buy some extra wires and hook it all up. And it's only $74
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/18/mk802-beats-cotton-candy-to-market/

Should work perfectly fine... people have shown that you can connect a PS3 to the lapdock. Only question is: will a regular ICS or Ubuntu 12 have the lapdock drivers..

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Should work perfectly fine... people have shown that you can connect a PS3 to the lapdock. Only question is: will a regular ICS or Ubuntu 12 have the lapdock drivers..
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I think that their generic... The fact that CM7 doesn't have any of Motos lapdock drivers yet you can use the keyboard and mouse proves it...

inaudibly said:
If you can't get hold of one maybe look into the MK802 PC, you might find that easier to add onto the lapdock too looks like it already has a hdmi and a usb so i think you may just have to buy some extra wires and hook it all up. And it's only $74
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/18/mk802-beats-cotton-candy-to-market/
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Did you bother to read what I posted in the post before yours? I posted a link for the MK802 already!
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I will be watching this thread. I have an extra lapdock and would love to put a ics stick in it. Very nice idea.
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I will take an attempt at this, I also got some friends that are linux devs. The only thing I need lol is cash... So if anyone has a Hard-Bricked Atrix pls PM me! I could use 3-4 of them donated to fund for this. (I know people who will buy them) If I can get 3 then I can buy everything I need...

You and Alaq have made me **** bricks. I normally figure stuff like this out early on. It's not until now that I've realized that connecting usb and hdmi ports will make the lapdock a sologig. A real upgradeable laptop, how about that?! It would be nothing to find screens of a similar size to replace them in any lapdock model if you wanted to do so. Still ****ting bricks.

srkelley said:
You and Alaq have made me **** bricks. I normally figure stuff like this out early on. It's not until now that I've realized that connecting usb and hdmi ports will make the lapdock a sologig. A real upgradeable laptop, how about that?! It would be nothing to find screens of a similar size to replace them in any lapdock model if you wanted to do so. Still ****ting bricks.
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I knew about it's potential ever since I saw that ps3 video (Either last year or the beginning of this year...), but it wasn't till this month that people started releasing PCs on a stick... But yea it would be amazing for school to have a razr thin laptop that runs smoothly and has 8 hour battery life (probably more because it's no longer charging the phone), and that's why I decided to start on the project (In my sig), I'll release everything when I'm through with it.. I'll have to record everything that I do to the lapdock for you guys...

This one looks really interesting.....in technical side.
But it is not efficient if you compare the price with typical windows netbook
199$ + lapdock price is more expensive than netbook.

AndroidON said:
This one looks really interesting.....in technical side.
But it is not efficient if you compare the price with typical windows netbook
199$ + lapdock price is more expensive than netbook.
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Click the link in my sig, I'm trying this using the A10... And hopefully when I'm done with it I should be able to minimize costs...
Plus where would be the fun if you just buy it... Were gonna mod this to our desires xD

Once you get it sorted, could you make a video showing the performance? I love the idea and have been considering making a sort of 'dummy phone' like box to house a raspberry pi but this little a10 stick computer looks like it could be a better option. For me, it would have to run linux as android on a laptop is just wrong as far as I am concerned It looks good, but would not be worth it unless it is faster than webtop imho.
Thanks for being the Guinea Pig!

It can be interested they are publish source code at https://github.com/FXITech

Best Device there is? fastest best ect?

whats the best android to buy, not bothered about budget as just sold my tablet to get one as i use in my room for downloading films and that, preferably one with 2 usbs so can you mouse and keyboard
whats the best device out at the moment thanks

on the horizonb
Best device is on the horizon.
MK808B is new. I have it - can vote that it is better than UG802. No antenna MOD needed.
UG007 is new.
V8 is new with external Antenna.
Just monitor Geekbuying, Aliexpress and similar sites.
Then 2GB RAM devices coming. Then quad-core devices coming. A15 is probably coming.

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Then 2GB RAM devices coming. Then quad-core devices coming. A15 is probably coming.
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Quad Core devices are already available

i own an mk802III and i'm very happy with it. for what i read rikomagic is the most reliable company providing updates and solving bugs... i just hope that some dev will put some interest into it...

MK808 (Cheap but need some antena mod) or Neo G4 One of the best

Since the OP mentioned 2 USB ports:
This is the only one I've seen with 2 full size USB ports (except of course, Set Top style systems):
http://www.smallart-odm.com/pro.asp?id=2
http://dx.com/p/uhost2-dual-core-an...-wi-fi-bluetooth-1gb-ram-4gb-rom-black-167645
It got a pretty good review over at tabletrepublic.com.
http://tabletrepublic.com/forum/uhost2-u2/uhost2-another-review-uk-perspective-3266.html (down at the time of this posting)
Specs look good, except no JB yet.

I've just got the mk809 , no trouble with wifi my router is in another room and I get good signal., device is quick and paired with my Logitech k400 wireless keyboard it make a great combination.
Come with 4.1.1 jelly bean pre installed.
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I did the same search for the last 2 days, I ended up getting the Zealz Gk802, I think its going to be a great device that will develop fast.

Psycho77 said:
I did the same search for the last 2 days, I ended up getting the Zealz Gk802, I think its going to be a great device that will develop fast.
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that's what i have, just want to get JB on it.... didn't have time to play with yet, hopefully this weekend.

I have gk802. Gonna return it. Heat issues, laggy, no custom roms, usb does not work if not connected via ac adapter. Too many issues. I am going to wait fir Archos tv connect or get mk808b.

I have an MK808 and love it. It is super fast and handles games like a champ. I don't have the newer Bluetooth model and its killing me. I bought it for emulators (N64 and PSx) thinking I could use one of many USB-BT adapters I own. But none work.
So I'm stuck using a wired controller or a wireless 360 but I want to get the Sixaxis app setup and working with my PS3 controller.
My goal is to get 2 controllers setup for some Mario Mart 64 action.
The MK808B would fix this but it doesn't seem to be getting any dev love. The original MK808 that I have has several custom roms and development.
I'm thinking of maybe selling my MK808 and waiting. Bluetooth in these little sticks really seem flaky ATM across the board. I have 2 new USB BT sticks coming from china that supposedly work with the CM10 roms. Minus Bluetooth, the MK808 is great.
The GK802 looks good on paper and I almost picked one up but it really is having some issues with stuff. For a quad core... it has issues doing what the MK808 can do.
I might pick up my neighbors LG G2x Tegra 2 phone and just make it a dedicated TV unit.
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Shone1980 said:
I have gk802. Gonna return it. Heat issues, laggy, no custom roms, usb does not work if not connected via ac adapter. Too many issues. I am going to wait fir Archos tv connect or get mk808b.
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Wow, sounds like a great deal of issue.. bummer

Shone1980 said:
I have gk802. Gonna return it. Heat issues, laggy, no custom roms, usb does not work if not connected via ac adapter. Too many issues. I am going to wait fir Archos tv connect or get mk808b.
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We've got some roms over at armtvtech. A little custom with root and play store fix.(I've also got something special in the works heh)
I'm testing the usb fix right now.
We've also got full Ubuntu images.
The GK802/HI802 are a bit new atm. So please keep in mind that many people are just starting to receive them. It takes a little bit for people to get adjusted to a new system in order to make custom images.
I'd say that for the moment when it comes to custom roms the MK808 is king.
I expect the GK802 to take over the throne pretty quickly.

deadhp1 said:
We've got some roms over at armtvtech. A little custom with root and play store fix.(I've also got something special in the works heh)
I'm testing the usb fix right now.
We've also got full Ubuntu images.
The GK802/HI802 are a bit new atm. So please keep in mind that many people are just starting to receive them. It takes a little bit for people to get adjusted to a new system in order to make custom images.
I'd say that for the moment when it comes to custom roms the MK808 is king.
I expect the GK802 to take over the throne pretty quickly.
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Yea I loaded your rooted with play store fix. Thanks for that.

Help choosing
Any word on the mk809 II? I really want to het one of these devices but do not know which to chose. I did see the archos one and i do like the bulky remote for the use of the games. Are there any good game controllers to use with these devices for regular android games and emulators.
Which device is the best, fastest, and stable ?

nefiwashere said:
Any word on the mk809 II? I really want to het one of these devices but do not know which to chose. I did see the archos one and i do like the bulky remote for the use of the games. Are there any good game controllers to use with these devices for regular android games and emulators.
Which device is the best, fastest, and stable ?
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I have several controllers that work. A corded SixAxis and a wireless 360 and a USB PC gamepad.
I heard the Archos is really bad... and in comparison to these Android sticks.... that's bad.
I have an MK808. I recommend the Bluetooth version for more options. Or the GK802. The MK808 plays every game I've thrown at it. I don't know how the GK802 plays but it should.
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player911 said:
I have several controllers that work. A corded SixAxis and a wireless 360 and a USB PC gamepad.
I heard the Archos is really bad... and in comparison to these Android sticks.... that's bad.
I have an MK808. I recommend the Bluetooth version for more options. Or the GK802. The MK808 plays every game I've thrown at it. I don't know how the GK802 plays but it should.
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Ok so any difrance between the mk808b and mk809 II. Ill take a look at the sixaxis controler to see what thats about

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Ok so any difrance between the mk808b and mk809 II. Ill take a look at the sixaxis controler to see what thats about
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There is no logic to their numbering schemes. The MK808 is getting lots of love and the 808b is following suit. Look at the forum traffic and pick.
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I have been following the progress on the development of these devices for a while and am glad to see prices have come down
it would be helpful if someone who knows could compile a table of the various models and specs. Atleast by the naming conventions and when they appeared on the marketplace, the hierarchy from high to low seems to be
MK809II-same as the 809 but has bluetooth?
MK809-?
MK808B-same as the 808 but has bluetooth?
MK808-Dual Core A9?
MK802-being the original A8 1 GHZ Single core version.

tekweezle said:
I have been following the progress on the development of these devices for a while and am glad to see prices have come down
it would be helpful if someone who knows could compile a table of the various models and specs. Atleast by the naming conventions and when they appeared on the marketplace, the hierarchy from high to low seems to be
MK809II-same as the 809 but has bluetooth?
MK809-?
MK808B-same as the 808 but has bluetooth?
MK808-Dual Core A9?
MK802-being the original A8 1 GHZ Single core version.
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+1. I sure look forward to this also. I am already confused with all the different versions and the pros and cons for each.
player911 said:
There is no logic to their numbering schemes. The MK808 is getting lots of love and the 808b is following suit. Look at the forum traffic and pick.
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I see that mk808 is very popular, but it seems to have a lot of glitches, especially with the wifi. thats what really holding me back in general. I am still debating if I should go with the 808 or 809 yikes!

What android stick / box should i get now? Jan 2014

Ok so im completely new to this and would love to get an Android stick or box for the living room 50 inch TV to stream mainly netflix.
Theres just so many choices!
Im just looking for a good reliable smooth HD playback on Netflix and also playing HD from external HDD would be needed.
Budget is around $80 £60 70Euro
Ive noticed a CX919 that seems good but is there a better, newer stick just released?
Thanks for your advice.

Why you don't choose TVBox instead of Stick, you'll have much more options and better performance.
I can advice you to CS968 / CR11s (Both same), the price about of 65 euro.
Internal camera is not awesome but enough for skype with good light ambiance.
Ofcourse there are other models but I recommend you to choose a RK3188 based device with 2 gigs of ram.
Atleast, CS968 has a few firmware sources.

EQUANCY said:
Why you don't choose TVBox instead of Stick, you'll have much more options and better performance.
I can advice you to CS968 / CR11s (Both same), the price about of 65 euro.
Internal camera is not awesome but enough for skype with good light ambiance.
Ofcourse there are other models but I recommend you to choose a RK3188 based device with 2 gigs of ram.
Atleast, CS968 has a few firmware sources.
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Thanks for the advice. yeah maybe a box would be better as it doesnt need to be portable.
Are they a ll the same once they are RK3188 based or should i go for a particular brand?

christrance said:
Thanks for the advice. yeah maybe a box would be better as it doesnt need to be portable.
Are they a ll the same once they are RK3188 based or should i go for a particular brand?
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Hi,
No, not at all, even same chipset based devices might be slight different than each other, it depends on pcb called REFERENCE BOARD, which released mostly by manufacturer or company self.
Aftermarket manufacturers generally uses that referenceboard for their devices.
And the brands and models:
Actually, there are not many particular brands, only a few may be more.
But as far as I know only Minix provides regularly(!) firmwares and sources for their devices, but they are much expensiver than CS968 like devices.
Of course you can find a firmware for other devices, for CS968 there is Cloudnet and sometimes other sources.
However,
You should go for reviews first, then forums to ask personal experiences to users (examples: here, arm-tvtech and freaktab) then you can make a comparision.
But there is no one choice and not one answer, its up to you to take the risk because there is allways risk.
I hope this answer helps.
Have a nice day with your beloved ones.

EQUANCY said:
Hi,
No, not at all, even same chipset based devices might be slight different than each other, it depends on pcb called REFERENCE BOARD, which released mostly by manufacturer or company self.
Aftermarket manufacturers generally uses that referenceboard for their devices.
And the brands and models:
Actually, there are not many particular brands, only a few may be more.
But as far as I know only Minix provides regularly(!) firmwares and sources for their devices, but they are much expensiver than CS968 like devices.
Of course you can find a firmware for other devices, for CS968 there is Cloudnet and sometimes other sources.
However,
You should go for reviews first, then forums to ask personal experiences to users (examples: here, arm-tvtech and freaktab) then you can make a comparision.
But there is no one choice and not one answer, its up to you to take the risk because there is allways risk.
I hope this answer helps.
Have a nice day with your beloved ones.
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This one looks good. Should i go for it? Seems to do everything i want.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUu8VXjzQFg

christrance said:
This one looks good. Should i go for it? Seems to do everything i want.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUu8VXjzQFg
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I have it, and for me it is best tvbox at the market rightnow, performance is similar or even better than Tegra3 devices.
I can play a few games with my ps3 controller (aftermarket one) wirelessly, even emulator games, 40 mbps video from network drive is very well and also has native 1080p support.
Itsn't an ultimate device but meets basic (means not simple) principles of a Multimedia center.
I also modded a firmware for this one (2 mpx version).
But...
I can not say to you to go for anything, because everyone has different expectations and view, its your choice.
Success :good:

Minix neo x7
christrance said:
Ok so im completely new to this and would love to get an Android stick or box for the living room 50 inch TV to stream mainly netflix.
Theres just so many choices!
Im just looking for a good reliable smooth HD playback on Netflix and also playing HD from external HDD would be needed.
Budget is around $80 £60 70Euro
Ive noticed a CX919 that seems good but is there a better, newer stick just released?
Thanks for your advice.
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addictz809 said:
Minix neo x7
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If you intent on using the mini PC for video chat, Minix Neo X7 doesn't work properly at the moment. Hangouts doesn't work at all for video. Skype works some times. Lot of people have complained on Minix forum, but they always say that it is a Skype issue.

There are some android boxes now with miracast and I think you can link t.r phone to it? Has anyone here tested one of those?

christrance said:
Ok so im completely new to this and would love to get an Android stick or box for the living room 50 inch TV to stream mainly netflix.
Theres just so many choices!
Im just looking for a good reliable smooth HD playback on Netflix and also playing HD from external HDD would be needed.
Budget is around $80 £60 70Euro
Ive noticed a CX919 that seems good but is there a better, newer stick just released?
Thanks for your advice.
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If all youre looking to do is use Netflix, just get a chromecast 35.00 google play store

christrance said:
This one looks good. Should i go for it? Seems to do everything i want.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUu8VXjzQFg
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Hi I'm the one who made this video review and I suggest you go for it. This tv box is the best one this moment and with the best price for it's specs.

marcdman4000 said:
If all youre looking to do is use Netflix, just get a chromecast 35.00 google play store
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cant change DNS on a Chromecast to get US netflix. Thats a big no no.

c0nvict said:
Hi I'm the one who made this video review and I suggest you go for it. This tv box is the best one this moment and with the best price for it's specs.
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Oh really thats great. Really appreciate that you took the time to make the video. Really helps a lot.
I think this is the one i will go for.
Thanks a lot.

c0nvict said:
Hi I'm the one who made this video review and I suggest you go for it. This tv box is the best one this moment and with the best price for it's specs.
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Does it play 1080p mkv perfectly?
I'm having issues with another rock quad core w/ mali 400, the framerate is a little low from usual, around 18fps, enough for the eye to notice.

Pinx0 said:
Does it play 1080p mkv perfectly?
I'm having issues with another rock quad core w/ mali 400, the framerate is a little low from usual, around 18fps, enough for the eye to notice.
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Outside xbmc it plays 1080p perfectly using the stock video player, mx player, bs player and many third party players

c0nvict said:
Outside xbmc it plays 1080p perfectly using the stock video player, mx player, bs player and many third party players
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Does this still mean there is no currently available Android TV Box or stick that plays true 1080P flawlessly (and with 24Hz support) from XBMC?
Many boxes claim 1080P but render using a 720P framebuffer.
Cheers - Neil G

talkiet said:
Does this still mean there is no currently available Android TV Box or stick that plays true 1080P flawlessly (and with 24Hz support) from XBMC?
Many boxes claim 1080P but render using a 720P framebuffer.
Cheers - Neil G
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I believe that only tv boxes with amlogic mx chips play 1080p flawlessly via xbmc.
Maybe allwinner a10 can do this too

c0nvict said:
I believe that only tv boxes with amlogic mx chips play 1080p flawlessly via xbmc.
Maybe allwinner a10 can do this too
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The Amlogic MX boxes I have seen still output 720P. I don't know about the Allwinner A10 but would be thrilled if anyone could point to a specific known box that properly does 1080P... I still don't think one exists with Android.
Cheers - N

christrance said:
cant change DNS on a Chromecast to get US netflix. Thats a big no no.
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How to use Netflix outside U.S
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2435579

I am a Minix Neo X7 owner since august. So far, their support during the last 4 months has done a good job, the device is way more stable and the Freaktab community has put a good research on it. I personally use a custom finless rom with slightly overclocked parameters, and the device is rock solid, however, no matter what RK3188 device you will choose, you are going to face loads of problems. Unless you are not willing to actually help yourself with the community, there is no way your are going to be happy with it, just the fact that it has a Quad-Core CPU and 2GB RAM makes you notice that it doesnt feel like it's a turbo machine, any phone with similar specs rocks in performance, my X7 beats the Note 2 in Antutu, yet some alpha effects from custom launchers lag the soul out of it.
The real problem however is RockChip, their main market is cheap tablets and they are not giving much a damn for the TV section. They havent updated their TV SDK for quite a while, and as i read, whatever source is out there, it is ICS old ported somehow to JB, probably just to convince people like me and you to go for a 4.2 device, or like 4.1 a few months before.
Just recently a KitKat test rom was made public by a manufacturer who uses RK chips, and the kernel still dates back to ICS, 3.0.36. I remember 4.2/4.3 were released with a 3.4 kernel. I personally have no idea what those versions mean, all i know is that outdated code is being used, note sure how i can judge here but somebody else hopefully will explain that to us better.
Few things i have learned at Freaktab and i must point out, the X7 has loads of overclocked options availabile to flash due to the fact that the devs doubt the device itself is underclocked from Minix. Apparently the RAM is 800 mhz, and it is underclocked to 400 by default, based on chip readings. The CPU can handle 1.8 without a problem, but 1.6 is enough, the problem is, its lowest state, Minix leaves it to 300mhz, custom roms gain performance by leaving the minimum freq to 1200, which i found to be a game changer.
There are ways to squeeze the device, and dont feel bad about it cause it has performant guts, i personally think have hit a solid device when i got it, but there are people reporting the X7 just dying.
My Setup is as follows, X7 with a Logitech K400 keyboard that recognizes the touchpad as a mouse, connected to a LED TV, i have routed the sound strictly to the Headphone jack since i prefer Stereo AVRs, excluding the network connectivity, thats about it, you'll enjoy the device like this with no major problems, BUT people who insisit having DD or DTS output through new AV Receivers, you will face some problems "passthroughing" them.
If these devices dont shine until the next 4 months to their full capabilites, i dont see a point investing on one, but right now, they are all the same, all that differs is support and community attention.