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Subforum suggestion...

Off Topic...
We need an off topic section (frankly we need one in every forum with a decent amount of traffic)
It'd be a great place to ask opinions on things (like I want to ask for peoples opinions on the new Windows Phone 7 in depth preview and how the OS looks ON ITS OWN (doesn't stack up to Android IMO because well...it's too damn closed) etc...but I can't ask that here because some blowhard will cry about it being off topic and then some mod will lock it...and I will die a little inside (joke)
but yea...dunno who to speak to about this but I feel since a lot of us on here do wish to speak about relatively off topic things it'd keep traffic in the Nexus specific forums more on topic and give us a place to just...chit chat a bit....
but yea...just a well thought out and respectable super duper awesome OMG how can he be so cool kinda suggestion I thought I'd try and get across...
feel free to opine.

There is already an off-topic section. If you want opinions on windows phone 7, may i suggest the Windows Phone 7 general section...here

Mokurex said:
There is already an off-topic section. If you want opinions on windows phone 7, may i suggest the Windows Phone 7 general section...here
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so in other words you didn't read what I wrote?

I like this idea because it would be nice to have the off-topic discussion limited to other nexus one owners. Honestly, I don't think this will happen though.
Sent from my Nexus One

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so in other words you didn't read what I wrote?
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Sigh...Then what's the point of the existing off-topic forum? This is a Nexus One forum, where people talk about Nexus One related stuff, not a Nexus One USER forum. If you want to talk about certain things like WP7 or HD2 etc. go to that specific forum.
Going with your logic, let's say one day every nexus one user wants to talk about the HD2, so there should be a HD2 sub-forum under the Nexus One forum? really?
I know what you're trying to say, and i would love to have a place where nexus one owners talk about random stuff too =) but it probably won't happen because of what i said above.

It's a fair comment I think, comparing/looking at other topics from a viewpoint of a N1 owner.
Wouldn't need a forum for every phone, just a 'oddbits' subforum.
Or a bit more relaxing of the rules in QnA forum perhaps?

Mokurex said:
Sigh...Then what's the point of the existing off-topic forum? This is a Nexus One forum, where people talk about Nexus One related stuff, not a Nexus One USER forum. If you want to talk about certain things like WP7 or HD2 etc. go to that specific forum.
Going with your logic, let's say one day every nexus one user wants to talk about the HD2, so there should be a HD2 sub-forum under the Nexus One forum? really?
I know what you're trying to say, and i would love to have a place where nexus one owners talk about random stuff too =) but it probably won't happen because of what i said above.
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Except I didn't suggest a WP7 forum. I suggested a general off topic forum...meaning anything from Aardvark's to Zion can be discussed there. We wouldn't need a separate sub-forum for each and every discussion.

AbsoluteDesignz said:
Except I didn't suggest a WP7 forum. I suggested a general off topic forum...meaning anything from Aardvark's to Zion can be discussed there. We wouldn't need a separate sub-forum for each and every discussion.
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Like I said I know what you mean, the mods will never approve of this tho.

This forum already has too many sub sections as it is.

I'm sorry, I fail to understand what you are asking for, how is your request any different from the already existent General Discussion Forum? Which contains an "Off-topic" sub-forum.
Care to clarify your request? Or explain how the already existent "Off-topic" forum does not meet your requirements?

daveid said:
I'm sorry, I fail to understand what you are asking for, how is your request any different from the already existent General Discussion Forum? Which contains an "Off-topic" sub-forum.
Care to clarify your request? Or explain how the already existent "Off-topic" forum does not meet your requirements?
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Okay...I use Nexus...People here use Nexus
Sometimes I, as a Nexus user would like to know what others, who also use a Nexus, think of certain things that are not related to the Nexus One...
Creating a severely off topic thread in the N1 forum results in a close...so to alleviate this pressing concern of mine, I suggested an off topic random sub forum here so anyone can discuss anything thereby probably cleaning up the other segments since a lot of random OT stuff gets thrown haphazardly around in both General and Q&A.

General rules we should all follow

Here are some rules from the Vibrant section we should all follow.
egzthunder1 said:
This was a good meeting in General and it has covered all of the things that I had in my agenda. A few action items on our (mods) end:
1. New threads for ROM updates: Rom threads become quasi chaotic after page 100 or so. Since Chefs update most of their work often, I would suggest that chefs open a new thread for each version with a date and version number to distinguish it from the previous one (maybe even a name)
ie [ROM] 12/15/10 - Inchybrid v 1.2 - all is good now
2. Rom Review Thread: In order to minimize the clutter of the usual "what rom is best" questions, we will start a ROM thread where chefs can post a link to their roms on the first few posts and users will be able to leave reviews (not necessarily feedback), but reviews. So, when someone comes asking for the best rom, that person can be directed there.
3. Wiki update and guides (sticky): These need to be heavily updated, but will certainly be a useful tool to help people with questions.
4. Location / shape of the Report button: I will talk to the other admins and see what can be done about this one.
5. Preventing non-devs from making new threads in Dev: We are currently discussing a system for this. We will keep you posted if and when we reach a conclusion.
6. Off Topic Lounge: There will be a thread in General for you guys to blow off steam. Nothing fancy, but you can post there without having to open a new thread in OT general
Now, onto the action items results and requests from us (mods)
1. Further flaming for questions will not be tolerated. I gathered from this meeting that everyone agrees on a stance that people need not be flamed for asking anything. If there are questions in the wrong areas or simply don't feel like answering, refrain from posting and report it to us. We will move it to Q&A or General depending on the question. Building on this point, if anyone is caught flaming someone who posted in the correct section, that person will be given a vacation.
2. Rule 12 (aka Kanging): Rom chefs (no matter if they are themers or zip wizards), if they are using someone else's efforts as a base for their rom, they are to abide by Rule 12 by asking permission and posting the due credit in the opening post. Kanging will not be tolerated.
3. Donations: This was barely brushed but I feel that we reached an understanding rather quickly on this one. Chefs shall not ask for Donations to release early work.
4. Posting any kind of flaming will not be tolerated. If you feel that a post shouldn't be there, please let us know and we will take care of that.
I think this pretty much summed everything up. If I missed something, please let me know. I expect everyone to adhere to codes of conduct in this site. Thanks to all for attending.
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That would be great if the mods are able to only give thread permissions to devs. This forum needs this kind of policing, but I think more Mods could help as well, it seems like Zelendel is the only Mod that comes around here.

flashman2002 said:
That would be great if the mods are able to only give thread permissions to devs. This forum needs this kind of policing, but I think more Mods could help as well, it seems like Zelendel is the only Mod that comes around here.
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Sounds very familiar..............
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9591647&postcount=3155

Sqdnguns said:
Sounds very familiar..............
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9591647&postcount=3155
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Sweet, but I did not steal your thoughts if that is what you are meaning lol. I haven't used Perception since v4 so I had no idea you said this. But it really is a great idea and should be looked at by the Mods and Admin.

flashman2002 said:
Sweet, but I did not steal your thoughts if that is what you are meaning lol. I haven't used Perception since v4 so I had no idea you said this. But it really is a great idea and should be looked at by the Mods and Admin.
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Not at all, just glad someone else actually piped in on it.

5. Preventing non-devs from making new threads in Dev: We are currently discussing a system for this. We will keep you posted if and when we reach a conclusion.
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interesting idea.
If you do this you might consider making altering/combining the other forums slightly.
For instance
Make:
General = General / Q&A
and
Q & A = Development Q&A
This way non-dev with specific Development/Rom related' Q's could start threads under Dev. Q & A without cluttering up the General Q&A or the Development Threads.

bames said:
interesting idea.
If you do this you might consider making altering/combining the other forums slightly.
For instance
Make:
General = General / Q&A
and
Q & A = Development Q&A
This way non-dev with specific Development/Rom related' Q's could start threads under Dev. Q & A without cluttering up the General Q&A or the Development Threads.
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I've always thought something similar to this. It seems like a frequent misperception among those with posts <10 that Q&A is for those that know nothing, and the development thread is where you go if you know anything about development (and then you can also post a question there)
I for sure thought this when I first came to XDA (luckily I read the stickies which made that clear). But changing the name could help.
Sent from my SGH-T959D using XDA App

Or another idea would not be to just completely lock the Dev thread to devs, but to perhaps have a minimum level of seniority/experience to post -- aka Senior members.
The reason that I say this is that there are a ton of folks that are not devs, but do post a lot of helpful troubleshooting information and/or feedback that not all the devs can answer personally. I would much rather the devs use their precious time on getting us the next version of goodness rather than answering a lot of questions.
If you do require some level of seniority (100+ posts for example) you can probably cut down on a lot of the typical questions that are repeatedly asked (and answered a few posts back) and have a much cleaner thread. It's not a perfect world, but offenders can be dealt with individually when you have a smaller pool.
Not to say that noobs shouldn't have a place to ask questions -- we were all there at one time, but we just make sure there is a different area for this -- not clogging the particular ROM thread.
I've seen several other forums and communities operate with this type of principle in high value areas. It also allows newer members to get their feet wet and contribute in other areas by posting for others if they want to post in the dev community (but lurking will always be allowed / should be encouraged).
Just my 2 cents.

I have Stuck this as I agree 100000000000%. As far as locking the the Dev section, that has been talked about and is not going to happen anytime in the near future. My suggestion is for everyone and yes that means YOU to treat everyone with respect and dignity. If someone goes off I am almost always on and read every pm so let me know as I cant be everywhere at once and I am still learning as well.

Wow great ideas, I couldn't agree more. +1

I like the idea of new post for new versions, I hope that would cut down on the flaming too due to missing a one line post on page 999 of 1200 that would answer the question.

I disagree with the 'only devs can post in the dev section' rule. While I would technically not be considered a dev (per se) because I do not know how to make a ROM I would still like to be able to post in that section things that are technically not ROMs but do not fit in general. For example, I created the Galaxy S unlocker for Mac, but I have not figured out how to make a ROM. Does that make me a developer or not?

agreed man

+1 to the new ROM new thread idea. That would cut way down on the Old Salty XDA member yelling at the noob interactions.
Oh and i believe it should be illegal to call the Captivate a "Cappy" FYL

Don't worry about the guide portion, I have a guide in the works that covers everything from installing drivers to the update-script.
Another thing I would like to personally add. When new users or the not-so-inclined make a thread asking for help, do any of us stop to realize why that thread ends up on the Development board? In my opinion, we need a board dedicated to SUPPORT. Yeah, we have Q&A, but Q&A doesn't say Support to a lot of people. Example, Q&A to me spells "Information", not "Support." Sure, the Q&A's may be intended to be "My phone won't turn on", or "My 3g doesn't work", but if that's the case, why beat around the bush and call it Q&A?
There are those of us out there who do enjoy helping newcomers, and answering their questions; regardless of what board they post on; and there are those of us who like to get deep into this, leave support for the less experienced and get *$&! done. Know how we could cut back on flaming, and on people posting in the wrong board? Spell it out for them, in big bold letters; "Captivate Support". Not only that, dev's could start up a sister thread for each ROM they do in the support board, that way the actual release thread isn't a mess.
Maybe I'm just dumb though.

I have to say I particularly like the flaming rules. Sure, noobs are going to ask questions that everyone else has known the answer to for the past 5 months. I know it can get tedious reading these same things all the time, but remember that we once were noobs too, and I would bet most of us have asked "dumb" questions when first starting out. People are excited to learn about this stuff...let's not take away the spark with ad hominem attacks. They serve no purpose whatsoever, and no one wants to read them. If you don't want to answer, keep your mouth shut. If you do, do so politely either directly or (probably a little better), point them to a thread that will answer their questions. But come on, users calling a noob an "idiot" or "dumbass" for asking an honest question really pisses me off. And like I said, remember that you probably did it at some point, too. Okay, I'll get off my soapbox now

geokhentix said:
Don't worry about the guide portion, I have a guide in the works that covers everything from installing drivers to the update-script.
Another thing I would like to personally add. When new users or the not-so-inclined make a thread asking for help, do any of us stop to realize why that thread ends up on the Development board? In my opinion, we need a board dedicated to SUPPORT. Yeah, we have Q&A, but Q&A doesn't say Support to a lot of people. Example, Q&A to me spells "Information", not "Support." Sure, the Q&A's may be intended to be "My phone won't turn on", or "My 3g doesn't work", but if that's the case, why beat around the bush and call it Q&A?
There are those of us out there who do enjoy helping newcomers, and answering their questions; regardless of what board they post on; and there are those of us who like to get deep into this, leave support for the less experienced and get *$&! done. Know how we could cut back on flaming, and on people posting in the wrong board? Spell it out for them, in big bold letters; "Captivate Support"
Maybe I'm just dumb though.
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I think this is also a good idea, primarily for those with stock phones or just performing basic procedures (e.g. rooting).
As for the bold letters, personally, I like just linking to the proper forum instead...something like "This question should be answered in the Support forum. It's located here: http://.......". But, hey, that's personal preference. You're way's fine, too

bknust said:
I think this is also a good idea, primarily for those with stock phones or just performing basic procedures (e.g. rooting).
As for the bold letters, personally, I like just linking to the proper forum instead...something like "This question should be answered in the Support forum. It's located here: http://.......". But, hey, that's personal preference. You're way's fine, too
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No no, I don't mean bold letters to the people asking for help. I mean bold letters for the forum title so people know it's there. Support speaks louder than Q&A, especially with all the multilingual folks we have on here.

geokhentix said:
No no, I don't mean bold letters to the people asking for help. I mean bold letters for the forum title so people know it's there. Support speaks louder than Q&A, especially with all the multilingual folks we have on here.
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Oops! Sorry, misunderstood. Yes, that would be a very good way to filter out a lot of the basic stuff. Good idea!

nbs11 said:
I disagree with the 'only devs can post in the dev section' rule. While I would technically not be considered a dev (per se) because I do not know how to make a ROM I would still like to be able to post in that section things that are technically not ROMs but do not fit in general. For example, I created the Galaxy S unlocker for Mac, but I have not figured out how to make a ROM. Does that make me a developer or not?
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As far as I'm concerned, an unlocker for Mac does indeed belong in development with the current structure of xda. It's kind of one of those things that could go under Apps, but when I think of apps, I think of your standard user apps, not rooting/unlocking/ROM/etc. tools/hacks. Maybe there should be a forum strictly for ROM dev and a separate one for general system dev. To me, they are different. That's just how I see it, but I'm sure there are quite a few differing views on this.

NEW and improved rules for the Fascinate General forums.

Let's try this again. Two rules regarding the Fascinate general section.
1)-Let's try to keep the "thank you" threads to a minimum. Please use the "THANKS" button to thank people for awesome work.
and
2)-Please keep all questions that aren't general to the Q&A section. Non-general questions will be moved to the Q&A section, as will general questions once they are resolved.
Word.-ashasaur

The Fascinate section is a very rough crowd of people that expect the world handed to them on a silver platter for nothing, and they all want it 5 min ago. Personally, I'm just happy we have an active mod now as I didn't like to have to always bother Captainkrtek with the off-topic posts in the Development forum.

This is the wild west yo...if you demand something instead of proposing, expect to get shot.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mandatory
man·da·to·ry   
[man-duh-tawr-ee, -tohr-ee] Show IPA
adjective, noun, plural -ries.
–adjective
1.
authoritatively ordered; obligatory; compulsory: It is mandatory that all students take two years of math.
2.
pertaining to, of the nature of, or containing a command.
3.
Law . permitting no option; not to be disregarded or modified: a mandatory clause.
4.
having received a mandate, as a nation.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/proposed
pro·pose   
[pruh-pohz] Show IPA
verb, -posed, -pos·ing.
–verb (used with object)
1.
to offer or suggest (a matter, subject, case, etc.) for consideration, acceptance, or action: to propose a new method.
2.
to offer (a toast).
3.
to suggest: He proposed that a messenger be sent.
4.
to present or nominate (a person) for some position, office, membership, etc.
5.
to put before oneself as something to be done; design; intend.
6.
to present to the mind or attention; state.
7.
to propound (a question, riddle, etc.).

Oh I know, but the yelling at other members for supporting me is what gets to me. Yell at me all you want, I'm the mod thats what I'm here for...but yelling at other members? Wow is all I have to say.

Well, you started a flame war. You should fit right in

Heh, fair enough. Like I say, not trying to be a jackass, just trying to bring in some order that you all seems to have been wanting. At least the new naming scheme has been taken pretty damn well in the development section, as has the new Q&A section I got for us.

ashasaur said:
Heh, fair enough. Like I say, not trying to be a jackass, just trying to bring in some order that you all seems to have been wanting. At least the new naming scheme has been taken pretty damn well in the development section, as has the new Q&A section I got for us.
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Well then, Here's to order out of chaos.
Two things should take place if you're effective:
The Fascinate forums become much more engaging and reasonable to navigate
About half my posts get moved or deleted for irrelevence
Now I will have a beer to celebrate.

imnuts said:
The Fascinate section is a very rough crowd of people that expect the world handed to them on a silver platter for nothing, and they all want it 5 min ago. Personally, I'm just happy we have an active mod now as I didn't like to have to always bother Captainkrtek with the off-topic posts in the Development forum.
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Pretty much sums it up.
I think a 5th grade school yard would be a better analogy than the wild west. 'You try and set rules and we will whine and test your authority.'

ok... so what's the purpose of general if not to ask general questions?
Seems like Q&A should be left for specific FAQs and "how to"s to me.
Specifically, I just posted a question to general, should that have been in Q&A based on your definition?

superchunkwii said:
ok... so what's the purpose of general if not to ask general questions?
Seems like Q&A should be left for specific FAQs and "how to"s to me.
Specifically, I just posted a question to general, should that have been in Q&A based on your definition?
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Well Said =D

Development is easy as is Themes and Apps. But the line between General and Q&A is hazy.
I think the things that need to be considered is what makes a question technical and what it a general question. Should ANY questions be in General or should all questions belong in Q&A and General be for news, announcements, opinions, sharing other resources, etc.
Otherwise I think the line between General and Q&A will remain hazy.

ezas said:
Development is easy as is Themes and Apps. But the line between General and Q&A is hazy.
I think the things that need to be considered is what makes a question technical and what it a general question. Should ANY questions be in General or should all questions belong in Q&A and General be for news, announcements, opinions, sharing other resources, etc.
Otherwise I think the line between General and Q&A will remain hazy.
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Definitely true statement you made it there. Mod gotta do something about it. General/Q&A is just messy.

The point of the general forum is just that, general discussion, not questions. EVERY DAY people post Questions about CWM or Froyo in the General section, and things like that just need togo into the Q&A section.
Not to be a douche about it, but you all wanted a Q&A section, and I got it for you. So stop whining.

If I might make an observation, suggestion, and offer a possible option fo resolution:
The basic procedural questions may be quelled if the there was a consolidation, collective update, and removal of outdated how to's in the forum all together. As questions are answered amidst the postings following the OP's, those tweaks, exceptions, or side steps, added would prevent new visitors from then repeating that same mistep, thereby causing that repeat posted question.
To further that, as procedures are refined and updated, older versions should be removed or directly notated as outdated with a current link to the most recent and up to date instructional set. I know that most of my confusion has stemmed from to many years in windows mobile mode, and then coming to android, which was greek to me initially. But it is that much harder to functionally self educate when presented with multitudes of outdated threads whith solutions hidden amidst the 1000 posts, only to discover that by the time I have read then entire thread, a newer version or instruction has been posted, and posted elsewhere.
I hope I am making sense, let me know if not. If there is any assistance I can provide in implementing a solution to the process of clarification within the forum I would he happy, and honored to help in any way I can. Thanks for the work you do here, I know I havent eve a fraction of understanding the multifaceted responsibilities involved with maintaining a forum, so I know you must be a busy person. Take care.
Matthew
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djblu said:
If there is any assistance I can provide in implementing a solution to the process of clarification within the forum I would he happy, and honored to help in any way I can. Thanks for the work you do here, I know I havent eve a fraction of understanding the multifaceted responsibilities involved with maintaining a forum, so I know you must be a busy person.
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+1 to the entire preceding comment, especially the quoted section. I don't know enough yet to contribute anything dev-grade to the community, but I'd be happy to help out however else I can...

Dev thread in general section or the iron fist effect

Hi,
I really don't understand the pattern behind the allowed post in the dev section.
What I'm understanding is that the dev section is for ROM/Kernel only : when I tried to post a dev-related suggestion,
I was warned that it was wrong, and was threatened (!). Now that iron fist is in effect, I think people are "scared" to post
anything related to dev investigation into the dev section, and now all goes by default into the general section when we
have some doubts. Which creates a new disorder, ironically by trying to force order.
The dev section is now only a collection of <10 alive threads about custom kernel/rom. Not really alive section with thoughtful discussion about general dev ramblings. I've found dev-related threads in the general section (see for instance android arm sdk thread, but there is other cases, I let you find it as an exercise ;-), where someone pointed out the problem "Omg dev thread into a general section !". I think there is a problem.
Because it's really annoying to see the dev section becomes a kind of closed area where you are only allowed to post rom or kernel, and without to be able to think about dev itself. Dev section, as its name points it, must allow to speak about dev related things, whatever are these things. And it's a mess when you want to search something dev-related and find it in the gen section.
Moreover, I don't like the iron fist policy, which threaten people to ban them. Threatening=Terror. Maybe mods are responsible too for this situation, where sometimes there is a lack of clarity. I'm not a newbie, and I've posted wrongly. I consider that there is a mismatch between the subforum name (dev) and the allowed content (rom/kernel only). Or if this is not rom/kernel only, there is a kind of quantic pattern, where you never really know if your post will be accepted or not.
For sake of clarity, I suggest to rename the dev section "custom rom and kernel", and to create a new general dev discussion ; or to open the present dev section to general dev-related discussion, without - please- threatening people to ban them if they are not posting something about custom rom or kernel. Really don't like this way to communicate, it's like mods have forgotten they were newbies some time ago posting in the wrong section. Educating people by threatening them : I don't believe that it works. Whatever.
That was my iron fist on the iron fist.

The development section is for posting actual development not questions about development or asking why eclipse isn't ported to ARM. If you have a development question then there is a question and answer forum. If you want to talk about apps and their development then post in apps and themes. The development section is for the development of roms and kernels and the actual tools for development.
As has been said 100's of times this is not a democracy and this is not for customer service. All anyone has to do is read the forum rules and search a little before posting the same question over and over again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249254
If that thread was actual developing of eclipse on arm then it would be development but its just a poll to see if the developers of eclipse should port it to arm.
HUGE difference

Ok, if this is not a democracy, but a dictature, I have nothing to add.

altsyst said:
Ok, if this is not a democracy, but a dictature, I have nothing to add.
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Familiarize yourself with the following:
FORUM RULES
XDA MANTRA
Another correct breakdown of XDA:
zelendel said:
XDA is a developers site
XDA is a free forum you are ALLOWED to use. We could make it invite only
XDA is and always will be about the developers. And before you say without the users there would be no XDA, Bull****, who do you think used the stuff before normal people even knew what a smartphone was......wait for it.........other developers. People that could give good feedback with relavent info. Not just "dahhh this is broken, please fix".
XDA is not a place to come and make your phone cool.
XDA is not the cool place for idiots to hang out.
XDA is not your friends house
XDA is not a democracy
XDA is not a place to make Money.
XDA IS a place to come to learn and share your knowledge. If you are not here for those reasons then you are here for the wrong ones.
I have watched XDA become a place where every dumbass in the world has a smartphone and comes here thinking they have the right to anything. Well guess what? You dont have the right to ****. We share it because we want to and we dont if we dont feel like it. Are the Developers or the Mods required to make you happy? Nope not in the least. Wanna leave. Go ahead. I beg you, please do. The less people that are asking dumb question cause they dont know what they are doing (this is understand, but at least look) or are too lazy to look for it the better.
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Galaxy S3 forums are a mess

Now we have multiple development forums for each carrier but for some reason we cannot manage to have discussion forums based on the carrier? Why not? This does not make any sense at all.
Trying to sort through all the info is a real pain in the neck. I am the type that tries to read everything I can to avoid stupid questions that can be easily researched, but the current format seems dysfunctional to me.
Most posters do not tell us what carrier they are on when asking questions or providing information, so much of the info is a waste.
No offense intended toward the mods, but I believe there is a better way to handle this phone.
I have had multiple phones and have never seen so many issues on an XDA forum before.
PS. can we unsticky the pre-order discussions yet? I find it annoying when viewing the forums on my phone to have to scroll past useless threads.
Sorry for the mini rant...
Hope everyone has a great day!

What's your suggestion?

Agree, there needs to be an entire section for each carrier. General, development , QnA, and themes.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

I agree that things could be cleaned up a bit. I think it would be better if the "Original Development" forums were subforums of each of the Development forums. I like that the development forums are separated by carrier and that all the other forums are not, but there's no reason to have two completely separate development boards for each carrier. I also think some of the stickies in general discussion could be taken down.

jcbofkc said:
Now we have multiple development forums for each carrier but for some reason we cannot manage to have discussion forums based on the carrier? Why not? This does not make any sense at all.
Trying to sort through all the info is a real pain in the neck. I am the type that tries to read everything I can to avoid stupid questions that can be easily researched, but the current format seems dysfunctional to me.
Most posters do not tell us what carrier they are on when asking questions or providing information, so much of the info is a waste.
No offense intended toward the mods, but I believe there is a better way to handle this phone.
I have had multiple phones and have never seen so many issues on an XDA forum before.
PS. can we unsticky the pre-order discussions yet? I find it annoying when viewing the forums on my phone to have to scroll past useless threads.
Sorry for the mini rant...
Hope everyone has a great day!
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I agree that it is a mess. The new "Original" development section does not make sense. We do not need it and we did fine without having it in the Nexus One forums.
Can we make a development forum that pertains to all devices and then have a separate one that only works for the individual devices. E.g.: Kernels would go in device specific development, and then ROMs/scripts that work for all devices would go in the general development forum.
The last thing I need to do is scour the ATT, Verizon, and Sprint development + their Original Development Forums to see if I can use any of their ROMs/Scripts, etc... 9 different development forums are too many!!

Why does each carrier have two separate development forums anyway? The ones on the bottom don't even have anything in them really? I thought this was some type of error.

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Sorry. I should have provided the solution.
Go back to the original format when the forums were based by carrier. I know it would help new folks. As the popularity of this phone increases the problems will also multiply. I would hate for someone to mess up their phone by taking advice from a person on a different system.
Anyway that is my 2cents on the topic.

Markdental said:
I agree that it is a mess. The new "Original" development section does not make sense. We do not need it and we did fine without having it in the Nexus One forums.
Can we make a development forum that pertains to all devices and then have a separate one that only works for the individual devices. E.g.: Kernels would go in device specific development, and then ROMs/scripts that work for all devices would go in the general development forum.
The last thing I need to do is scour the ATT, Verizon, and Sprint development + their Original Development Forums to see if I can use any of their ROMs/Scripts, etc... 9 different development forums are too many!!
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Agree, I have no f-ing idea what the "Original Development" forums are even supposed to be... the description confused the hell out of me. As far as I'm concerned. A ROM is a ROM. Why do we need 2 threads for vaguely different types of ROM. Who the F cares? This is the first forum I've seen that makes this stupid distinction.
I agree with the other guy that this unnecessary forum should at least be made a subforum of the development forum... or at best deleted entirely.
I don't mind the combined discussion threads, though.

I agree with separating the carriers, but the two separate development sections for each carrier has been around for months. It was that way with the SGS2 and works fine. So, yeah, the only change i would like to see is to separate carriers.

i agree, we need a cleanup on aisle S3

If enough people post in this thread, maybe the mods will reconsider the overall setup of the forums for the GS3.

x_SCOS_x_ELITE said:
i agree, we need a cleanup on aisle S3
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Dude, that signature is bananas... it's taking up half the screen (which looks even crazier compared to your 1-line comment). Just sayin' :silly:

My suggestion that I brought up before to a mod.
"I have an idea that would help both mods and us xda user when it come to SGs3 forum. General and accesories can be left without carrier specific names. Then sprint, verizon, att&t, and t-mobile can have their own sub-forums with development, Q&A, and themes & apps.
Ex.
[Sprint]Gs3
- Dev
-Q&A
-Themes & Apps
And last the title of the Gs3 forum title should be changed to
"U.S Samsung Galaxy S3 variants ( Sprint, T-mobile, Verizon, & ATT&T)
With this two sub forums can be deleted that are present now since they'll be apart of the carrier variant sub forum."
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masaidjet said:
My suggestion that I brought up before to a mod.
"I have an idea that would help both mods and us xda user when it come to SGs3 forum. General and accesories can be left without carrier specific names. Then sprint, verizon, att&t, and t-mobile can have their own sub-forums with development, Q&A, and themes & apps.
Ex.
[Sprint]Gs3
- Dev
-Q&A
-Themes & Apps
And last the title of the Gs3 forum title should be changed to
"U.S Samsung Galaxy S3 variants ( Sprint, T-mobile, Verizon, & ATT&T)
With this two sub forums can be deleted that are present now since they'll be apart of the carrier variant sub forum."
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Seems like a reasonable plan. I hope the mods consider it.

Sooo...
General Discussion
General Q&A
AT&T
Q&A
Development
Themes​
Sprint
Q&A
Development
Themes​
T-Mobile
Q&A
Development
Themes​
Verizon
Q&A
Development
Themes​

deserted1 said:
Sooo...
General Discussion
General Q&A
AT&T
Q&A
Development
Themes​
Sprint
Q&A
Development
Themes​
T-Mobile
Q&A
Development
Themes​
Verizon
Q&A
Development
Themes​
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Might as well just make entire different sections like they used to. Including their respective general sections.

I agree with the idea what the original dev forums should be subforums on the dev forums, but I totally understand what the mod's were going for in regards to having a general section for all carriers. I'm assuming the idea was that it would create more of a community if we were lumped into one general forum, versus all being isolated by carrier. I wonder, if it was split up by carrier, if we would have gotten as much help from non VZW dev's who have come over to show us support. There might be a better way to organize things, but I also like the idea of a more connected community of SGS3 users across carriers

The other solution is to keep the QA, Dev, etc forums, but instead have subforums for each carrier. This way solutions that worked for all carriers could be posted in the main forum for each section, with carrier specific solutions in the subforums.
Galaxy S III Development
T-Mobile Development
AT&T Development
Sprint Development
Verizon Development
[Below all these would be a forum for development that crossed over between carriers, not necessarily for ALL carriers, but if there's any crossover]​

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Sooo...
General Discussion
General Q&A
AT&T
Q&A
Development
Themes​
Sprint
Q&A
Development
Themes​
T-Mobile
Q&A
Development
Themes​
Verizon
Q&A
Development
Themes​
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Yea basically that's what I meant
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