How is this possible? JellyBean is out and no ICS ROMs have been made for the TB? I don't get it.... and yes this is in the dev section b/c its a question about ROMs.
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How is this possible? JellyBean is out and no ICS ROMs have been made for the TB? I don't get it.... and yes this is in the dev section b/c its a question about ROMs.
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Because no one has been able to crack the RIL. Until HTC/Verizon send us an update or we get a leak, we are left in the cold.
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Turd Furguson said:
Because no one has been able to crack the RIL. Until HTC/Verizon send us an update or we get a leak, we are left in the cold.
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Its very strange b/c every other phone has a "leaked" version of it but the TB.........
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How is this possible? JellyBean is out and no ICS ROMs have been made for the TB? I don't get it.... and yes this is in the dev section b/c its a question about ROMs.
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This is just a guess, but i'm pretty sure questions go in the Q/A part of the forum. Especially one that's been covered so frequently here.
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not a guess ^. unless you personally developed something, your thread doesn't belong in the development section.
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How is this possible? JellyBean is out and no ICS ROMs have been made for the TB? I don't get it.... and yes this is in the dev section b/c its a question about ROMs.
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Liquids its not yet a daily driver.. but its a must go with working wifi calls and texts ...
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I think us hardcore TB guys are just getting left in the cold
ANOTHER THREAD about this? Really?!?! Let me guess, the search button or google was broken? Jeeze, talk about beating a dead horse.
Every Dev that has been kind enough to start an ICS Rom has said the hold up is the RIL.
The TB has the ability to do data and voice at the same time, the devs have stated time and time again that complicates things.
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Its very strange b/c every other phone has a "leaked" version of it but the TB.........
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As awesome as our Devs are, they can't just **** out a leak and make a Rom work within 5 minutes. Patience!
If you are THAT antsy, try HOLO launcher.
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ANOTHER THREAD about this? Really?!?! Let me guess, the search button or google was broken? Jeeze, talk about beating a dead horse.
Every Dev that has been kind enough to start an ICS Rom has said the hold up is the RIL.
The TB has the ability to do data and voice at the same time.
As awesome as our Devs are, they can't just **** out a leak and make a Rom work within 5 minutes. Patience!
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Did you forget to take your xanax or something? How long has ICS been out? And how long has the TB been available? Yea. exactly. I'm not bashing the devs they do great work.
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Did you forget to take your xanax or something? How long has ICS been out? And how long has the TB been available? Yea. exactly. I'm not bashing the devs they do great work.
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Are you unable to search? This has been covered, answered and smashed into the ground... repeatedly
It has less to do with how long ICS has been out, it is the RIL. Look around, there are awesome ICS builds, minus data. Data hold up is because of the RIL. Complaining here won't make one appear out of thin air. The problem lies with HTC at the moment. Don't forget, the TB has been in the "end of life" phase for awhile now. Face it, we have older tech. Older tech = low priority at HTC.
It crazy how the Note, and the inspire 4g get the ICS fully functionable I was very disappointed that my friend on his inspire get the ICS on his phone.the inspire and thunderbolt are almost the same but I'm sure they have different RIL not only that they both on 4g but only as 4g lte on the thunderbolt.. I wouldn't trade my TB for any other phone.since I went threw four screens and one whole housing.all I can.say is we gotta wait.
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The newest ICS rom has Calling, Texting, and Wi-fi. I've been using it for over a week now and it works amazing and there is an update coming soon like liquid said! Also there are a couple Jelly Bean Roms in the works although nothing has been released yet a few devs are currently working on it trying to get it to boot! Hopefully there is a leak or an official update for ICS to move the work along but until then this is what you have! If you can get past not having mobile data, camcorder, or netflix you should give it a try!
LiquidSmooth-ICS-v1.5 MR1 Pre-Release
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Are you unable to search? This has been covered, answered and smashed into the ground... repeatedly
It has less to do with how long ICS has been out, it is the RIL. Look around, there are awesome ICS builds, minus data. Data hold up is because of the RIL. Complaining here won't make one appear out of thin air. The problem lies with HTC at the moment. Don't forget, the TB has been in the "end of life" phase for awhile now. Face it, we have older tech. Older tech = low priority at HTC.
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stop being such a prick dude.... seriously. If you have nothing to contribute to this thread then go away.
El oh el. If supplying you with answers to questions that have been asked repeatedly makes me a prick in your eyes, perhaps you need thicker skin.
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stop being such a prick dude.... seriously. If you have nothing to contribute to this thread then go away.
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what exactly was wrong with his post? anyone who checks in here at least once a week has seen this type question beat to death for a long long time
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Mods this thread is pointless and in the wrong section. We're beating a dead horse here so why not lock this thread before it gets ugly.
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enkrypt3d: No offense, but your comments are showing a lack of understanding about the development process. This is a *development* thread. It's not for lack of hard work and effort from the community, it's just the inability to make the data radio talk to the operating system. From scratch, this is no easy feat. If you want to complain about not having working ICS or JB on the Thunderbolt, don't do it in a development thread. It's like a teenager busting into a brewery asking why his homemade beer tastes awful.
I'm not trying to say this with any animosity toward you, I'm just letting you know that it probably comes off as rude and insulting to developers that have actually been busting their ass trying to maintain any roms at all for the Thunderbolt, ICS or not.
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This is just a guess, but i'm pretty sure questions go in the Q/A part of the forum. Especially one that's been covered so frequently here.
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Considering nobody is really dev for tb anymore I'm sure nobody will mind.
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Considering nobody is really dev for tb anymore I'm sure nobody will mind.
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There are still a couple devs but we keep on losing devs and soon enough we will have one. Seems like its gonna be time to get a new phone soon, the devs promise to have full working ics by latest next month. Hopefully they keep their promise.
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Is it just my imagination or did the Epic 4G General forum just take a major dump since Noobnl started posting again?
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Nah, it's your imagination since it was already pretty dumpy.
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Top Nurse said:
Is it just my imagination or did the Epic 4G General forum just take a major dump since Noobnl started posting again?
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It did actually but I was impressed at his apology for creating the drama. That takes a lot.
I don't see anything about the Epic anymore in the Epic forum. It's all about the SGSII, Evo3D, I'm leaving...wahhhhhhh..cry me a river please, give me lunch money back, etc.
Would be nice to see stuff about the Epic again in the EPIC forums.
I'd much rather read noobnl posts/threads than sift through more and more threads on devices like the Evo/Evo 3D/etc which have nothing to do with the Epic and don't even belong here in the first place, or people griping about how the Epic is undersupported and 'woe iz us' and proudly boasting which manufacturer/device they're moving to because of it and why and all such blather as that as if everyone both wants and deserves to read it.
At the very least noobnl's threads and the reactions within them have some semblance of entertainment value usually.
This is a great phone and there are a ton of fun and interesting things to do with it. I guess I'm just not jaded enough because I don't buy the newest latest 3x a year for full price. No offense to those who do, but the Epic for me at least has plenty of life left in it.
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This is a great phone and there are a ton of fun and interesting things to do with it. I guess I'm just not jaded enough because I don't buy the newest latest 3x a year for full price. No offense to those who do, but the Epic for me at least has plenty of life left in it.
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Yep, I agree. I'm not updating until quad core comes out. Dual core is cool, but the main feature of this phone is the gpu, which is just as good as anything coming out for thre rest of the year.
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digiblur said:
I don't see anything about the Epic anymore in the Epic forum. It's all about the SGSII, Evo3D, I'm leaving...wahhhhhhh..cry me a river please, give me lunch money back, etc.
Would be nice to see stuff about the Epic again in the EPIC forums.
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You will as soon as official Gingerbread drops and the ROMs fly.
Do you BONSAI?
kennyglass123 said:
You will as soon as official Gingerbread drops and the ROMs fly.
Do you BONSAI?
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Yah, I think a lot of the slowdown is the wait for the official GB to drop
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Yah, I think a lot of the slowdown is the wait for the official GB to drop
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Ofcourse, I know 2 devs right now that have held off from even creating for FROYO because they knew GB was close.
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You will as soon as official Gingerbread drops and the ROMs fly.
Do you BONSAI?
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theyve said that before froyo too and i didnt see much of a diff after it dropped either. its not froyo, gb or anything else holding us up.
i think we all know what it is.
I just want more epic'ness. Its called the epic for damn sakes! Where's our Epic'ness! The glory to uphold the that name!
Our communitys taken several epic movements lately.. =/
Marcusant if u read this, make a quick "how to" compilation of all the learn to dev tuts. I'm sure it might motivate some in our community =) id do it but my theads are always sloppy.
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austin420 said:
theyve said that before froyo too and i didnt see much of a diff after it dropped either. its not froyo, gb or anything else holding us up.
i think we all know what it is.
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Really? Really? The threads were full of Epic only talk, differences between DK28, EB13 and EC05, easiest path to their favorite ROM, help I sponged my phone, how do use Odin, GPS fix this GPS fix that...he said talk was all about the next phone, which simply means devs are waiting for GB source code.
Do you BONSAI?
kennyglass123 said:
Really? Really? The threads were full of Epic only talk, differences between DK28, EB13 and EC05, easiest path to their favorite ROM, help I sponged my phone, how do use Odin, GPS fix this GPS fix that...he said talk was all about the next phone, which simply means devs are waiting for GB source code.
Do you BONSAI?
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I quote you by quoting myself
Shoulon said:
It's alrite, besides this entire community's progress is at a standstill. Everyone's waiting for samsprint to release their damn Gingerbread.
gb = alot of new work and releases =)
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i think we all know what it is.
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A limited amount of items left to fix?
Outside of TV out, I am not really sure what there is left to improve on my Epic
The ROM fast and stable, battery life lasts all day, my signal and call quality are great, I couldn't be happier with my theme, tethering works with 4G... whats left?
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A limited amount of items left to fix?
Outside of TV out, I am not really sure what there is left to improve on my Epic
The ROM fast and stable, battery life lasts all day, my signal and call quality are great, I couldn't be happier with my theme, tethering works with 4G... whats left?
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Although my setup varies from yours, I have to agree.
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It did actually but I was impressed at his apology for creating the drama. That takes a lot.
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Even his apology was self congratulatory..
CM7, MIUI, AOSP and HTC Sense 3.0.
DCRocks said:
A limited amount of items left to fix?
Outside of TV out, I am not really sure what there is left to improve on my Epic
The ROM fast and stable, battery life lasts all day, my signal and call quality are great, I couldn't be happier with my theme, tethering works with 4G... whats left?
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Putting Cyongenmod 7, MIUI, AOSP, HTC Sense 3.0 and Touch wiz 4.0 on this phone for starters. So we can assure long term development on our devices.
Top Nurse said:
Is it just my imagination or did the Epic 4G General forum just take a major dump since Noobnl started posting again?
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No offence, but what is the point of this? To rag on a member? I have not been here long, or post often, but if you are saying the Epic forum is going to **** due to threads like Noobnl's, then what is this thread for?
Threads like this are why, counter productive and flamebait.. noobnl whether you like him or not, even if you think he stole everything he ever released, he still contributed more than 3/4s of the people talking ****..
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http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/browse_thread/thread/4f85d9242667a85f?pli=1
!!!!!
also, check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ_fiepb2Mc
Can't wait to see this on my G2!
I hope someone with enough know how gets a hold of this and brings ics to our phone in a few weeks!
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Can't wait for CM9 !
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its not really there yet guys, be patient:
The push process:
-push to master, update the master manifest.
-push to the development branch, create the matching manifest.
-push to the release branch, tag it, create the machine manifest.
I'm still in the first phase, which is the longest one.
JBQ
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when he says: guys you can download now, first the servers will be slow as **** through a funnel, then we get ICS!
give it some time.
also hell will break lose on xda, wondering if we'll crash it hh.
awesome! can't wait
now it'll be easier for siulmagic to update his ROM... and i heard that tsubus will make a ICS ROM too... great!!
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How long do you reckon it will take for a stable port to the HTC Desire Z?
I'd say a few weeks for unstable ports, then a month or two for CM9 nightlies and eventually a stable build.
Stargazer418 said:
I'd say a few weeks for unstable ports, then a month or two for CM9 nightlies and eventually a stable build.
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Thanks
Forgive the stupid question here but does each phone type need its own custom ROM? Ie will we need a Rom customized for the desire z?
Hurray!
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scoobiesnacks said:
Thanks
Forgive the stupid question here but does each phone type need its own custom ROM? Ie will we need a Rom customized for the desire z?
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Yes, because the Vision has its own set of drivers that need to be cooked into the ROM for all the hardware to work.
Probably never, why would people waste their time porting it for the G2 when they have newer phones to work with?
TrueYears said:
Probably never, why would people waste their time porting it for the G2 when they have newer phones to work with?
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Why would they put 2.3 on the hero and g1. Simple answer. Because they can. Quit being a douche. If you can't be constructive then throw your keyboard/phone/tablet in the trash.
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Edit: Also remember that CM7 was on these phones pretty quick. The devs in our community know these phones. Plus the experience of doing it once might just make it a little easier to do it again. I remember from the Eris forums the devs saying it was easier to get 2.3 since they already battled through 2.2.
I'm also willing to bet you will see ICS for the g1 and hero also. Once again, just to say they did it!
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Probably never, why would people waste their time porting it for the G2 when they have newer phones to work with?
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wow. Pretty sure ICS is going to arrive even on phones that don't qualify.
TrueYears said:
Probably never, why would people waste their time porting it for the G2 when they have newer phones to work with?
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Yeah....no.
That is why the dev community is so cherished on Android, they keep old phones up to date. If they only worked on new phones, which will see these updates officially anyway, what's the freaking point? The G2 is a phone the devs (including Cyanogen himself) really like. So spend a little bit getting informed next time.
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TrueYears said:
Probably never, why would people waste their time porting it for the G2 when they have newer phones to work with?
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Why would people troll a forum when they have better things to do?
That's the whole point of these development forums: to provide old, unsupported devices with the latest updates since the manufacturer won't.
Looks like someone has a lot to learn about the Android development community.
TrueYears said:
Probably never, why would people waste their time porting it for the G2 when they have newer phones to work with?
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Can you tell me what phone out there with a keyboard is as nice as the Desire Z? I seriously don't know of any. The Captivate Glide looks like it's a contender but it has a grid keyboard, doesn't look like it'll have a notification LED, camera button, or the trackpad.
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TrueYears said:
Probably never, why would people waste their time porting it for the G2 when they have newer phones to work with?
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Apparently TrueYears has been trolling pretty hard this month, go look at his recent posts.
TrueYears, please leave immediately and never return. You are not contributing anything worthwhile. I'm serious; leave. This is a community where folks help one another learn and GIVE OF THEMSELVES to be a part of this, for ****ing FREE. You literally have no place here. You are completely at odds with the objectives of this community.
I'm just curious, how long did it take after gingerbread source for alpha CM rooms to start appearing?
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Ever since FCM came out, seems like everyone and their mothers making ROMS...
Have you noticed that the quality of ROMS gone down since the FCM release?
Do you find it annoying to seee 4 different CM9 KANG's without the ability to know which one would be best to use ?
Not saying I dont appreciate the FREE ROMS... but, I mean, seems like people are just quickly slappying together a few quick mods on someone elses ROM, renaming it.. then calling it their own.
I dont know, to me, thats not development...
/Rant
ssmr2t said:
Ever since FCM came out, seems like everyone and their mothers making ROMS...
Have you noticed that the quality of ROMS gone down since the FCM release?
Do you find it annoying to seee 4 different CM9 KANG's without the ability to know which one would be best to use ?
Not saying I dont appreciate the FREE ROMS... but, I mean, seems like people are just quickly slappying together a few quick mods on someone elses ROM, renaming it.. then calling it their own.
I dont know, to me, thats not development...
/Rant
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Wow... just wow.
Joker's been nice enough to help port his work on the PHOTON to us Atrix users, so we have something more capable to play with until another version of CM9 comes out and you're complaining?
If you're going to bash other people's work for no reason, the least you could do is keep up as to why things are happening they way they are...
Solution: DONT FLASH IT!
littleemp said:
Wow... just wow.
Joker's been nice enough to help port his work on the PHOTON to us Atrix users, so we have something more capable to play with until another version of CM9 comes out and you're complaining?
If you're going to bash other people's work for no reason, the least you could do is keep up as to why things are happening they way they are...
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I think its even worst... Isnt he implying that we shloud blame sammcrip for releasing FCM and starting this influx of ROMS? It just amazes me how ungratefull and lazzy people can be.
Thanks all the devs for all this ROMs! I can use the search feature and filter all the junk from the good stuff. UHAaaaa! Im a smart n00b.
Peace.
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littleemp said:
Wow... just wow.
Joker's been nice enough to help port his work on the PHOTON to us Atrix users, so we have something more capable to play with until another version of CM9 comes out and you're complaining?
If you're going to bash other people's work for no reason, the least you could do is keep up as to why things are happening they way they are...
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I don't think he is bashing anyone. He is just pointing out that once anyone with little skill or talent can put other people's "tweaks" together and produce a rom in a few clicks you forgo quality for quantity
I don't use fcm so your point is invalid, although I do thank sam for making it.
ssmr2t said:
Ever since FCM came out, seems like everyone and their mothers making ROMS...
Have you noticed that the quality of ROMS gone down since the FCM release?
Do you find it annoying to seee 4 different CM9 KANG's without the ability to know which one would be best to use ?
Not saying I dont appreciate the FREE ROMS... but, I mean, seems like people are just quickly slappying together a few quick mods on someone elses ROM, renaming it.. then calling it their own.
I dont know, to me, thats not development...
/Rant
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I don't use fcm so your point is invalid, although I do thank sam for making it.
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I doubt his generalization was directed towards you personally...
Reread the op
endlessevo said:
I doubt his generalization was directed towards you personally...
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jokersax11 said:
Reread the op
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I have, show me were he calls you out specifically? Unless you classify your self as everyone and there mothers...
ssmr2t said:
Ever since FCM came out, seems like everyone and their mothers making ROMS...
Have you noticed that the quality of ROMS gone down since the FCM release?
Do you find it annoying to seee 4 different CM9 KANG's without the ability to know which one would be best to use ?
Not saying I dont appreciate the FREE ROMS... but, I mean, seems like people are just quickly slappying together a few quick mods on someone elses ROM, renaming it.. then calling it their own.
I dont know, to me, thats not development...
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The new roms are from cm9 kangs, which fcm has nothing to do with, and rdanner's ports. Which also have nothing to do with fcm. We also have Nottach making a new rom based on 2.3.6, and marko doing the same thing. Once again, neither have any affiliation with fcm... So what's the problem with development kicking off?
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Well I thought a development boom was a good thing. If you read descriptions they might say alpha build and if you think some of the newer roms aren't as high quality stick with what you know. I personally like choices and trying new things. Waiting patiently for miui to improve haven't touched cm9 probably wont until camera works. Just consider things and read what works before you flash things.
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I have, show me were he calls you out specifically? Unless you classify your self as everyone and there mothers...
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In case you don't know, joker is one of the devs compiled/posted a CM9 kang. The OP targeted the CM9 kangs among other ROMs. Look at the dev section.
Look, I apologize if my post came off as I was bashing.. I was not bashing.
Endlessevo get's where I am coming from... FCM is a great thing, I love it!
Basically, He hit the nail on the head.. It's quantity ~ Quality thing...
EXAMPLE: I see some ROMS which warrant framework changes for animation purposes, etc... The same thing can be achieved by using Rom Toolbox pro..... Change the fonts.. add a wallpaper pack, launcher, put another kernel... FCM it, give it some random name, and now you have a new ROM.
I totally agree with Dev's like nootiach (spelling?) who put little hidden boobie traps in their work so people can warrant the credit where it is due.
I guess what I am trying to get at is, I miss groundbreaking work~!!! Like, when CM was ported, or Miui.. This is some groundbreaking stuff.. Now you go to the dev. section, and you have a handful of CM9 kangs
Sorry if Im ranting... but I want to talk to someone about it... Jesus christ, if I talk to my wife about it, she'd be pissed I spend this much thought on this
/rant
ssmr2t said:
Look, I apologize if my post came off as I was bashing.. I was not bashing.
Endlessevo get's where I am coming from... FCM is a great thing, I love it!
Basically, He hit the nail on the head.. It's quantity ~ Quality thing...
EXAMPLE: I see some ROMS which warrant framework changes for animation purposes, etc... The same thing can be achieved by using Rom Toolbox pro..... Change the fonts.. add a wallpaper pack, launcher, put another kernel... FCM it, give it some random name, and now you have a new ROM.
I totally agree with Dev's like nootiach (spelling?) who put little hidden boobie traps in their work so people can warrant the credit where it is due.
I guess what I am trying to get at is, I miss groundbreaking work~!!! Like, when CM was ported, or Miui.. This is some groundbreaking stuff.. Now you go to the dev. section, and you have a handful of CM9 kangs
Sorry if Im ranting... but I want to talk to someone about it... Jesus christ, if I talk to my wife about it, she'd be pissed I spend this much thought on this
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Because there isn't a whole lot more to do to our phones except optimizing what we have already, and porting over android 4.0. Our dev team isn't done, but the groundbreaking work that you want is.
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BTW, I am really stoked for CM9 and the future beyond.. The work that goes into all this is difficult. Maybe deep down inside, It is me just getting bored with the hobby?
Sorry about the post, and I respect all the guys who do, do this.
I don't think you quite understand what kang means.
All unofficial cm roms are kangs, even ones that are in development to become official cm. Like mine. To become official everything major must work without breaking other phones. So if you want official cm9 someone must fix the problems. The little groundbreaking work you are wanting is the kangs. Yes the atrix team laid ground work to get cm9 ported but they stopped working on it. I was given cm9 only a few weeks ago when the photon cm dev moved to a different phone. He didn't even have cm9 up. Only cm7. I'm not making a temporary kang to satisfy ics thirst. I'm making the fixes to go official.
Also if you read up only one cm9 is current and going forward. Guess who's
Btw I don't even have an atrix, I'm blind building
ssmr2t said:
Look, I apologize if my post came off as I was bashing.. I was not bashing.
Endlessevo get's where I am coming from... FCM is a great thing, I love it!
Basically, He hit the nail on the head.. It's quantity ~ Quality thing...
EXAMPLE: I see some ROMS which warrant framework changes for animation purposes, etc... The same thing can be achieved by using Rom Toolbox pro..... Change the fonts.. add a wallpaper pack, launcher, put another kernel... FCM it, give it some random name, and now you have a new ROM.
I totally agree with Dev's like nootiach (spelling?) who put little hidden boobie traps in their work so people can warrant the credit where it is due.
I guess what I am trying to get at is, I miss groundbreaking work~!!! Like, when CM was ported, or Miui.. This is some groundbreaking stuff.. Now you go to the dev. section, and you have a handful of CM9 kangs
Sorry if Im ranting... but I want to talk to someone about it... Jesus christ, if I talk to my wife about it, she'd be pissed I spend this much thought on this
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Yep, your probably correct
Again, not bashing anyone.
AND... Thats freaking nuts to be blind building. My mind cant work that way
Ah, good old fashioned elitism.
"We dare not allow yon peons to learn reading nor writing, lest they gain initiative!"
Quantity and quality are not mutually exclusive. that's the Apple Mentality, and its a trap.
I find in the [SIMILAR] Linux communities lots of fresh blood means a greater chance for future prodigys and dedicated devs. Give folks a chance, and practice discretion when flashing.
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In case you don't know, joker is one of the devs compiled/posted a CM9 kang. The OP targeted the CM9 kangs among other ROMs. Look at the dev section.
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I did check to see if that's what he was being so butt hurt about. I figured because it was a second thought to his original rant and the fact joker defended the wrong part of the rant he knew why he was defending himself.
His complaints about the KANG's was not being able to tell the difference between them, not that they were simple tweaks turned into roms.
Long day. Plus complaining about free work equals thread
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Ah, good old fashioned elitism.
"We dare not allow yon peons to learn reading nor writing, lest they gain initiative!"
Quantity and quality are not mutually exclusive. that's the Apple Mentality, and its a trap.
I find in the [SIMILAR] Linux communities lots of fresh blood means a greater chance for future prodigys and dedicated devs. Give folks a chance, and practice discretion when flashing.
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Hey everyone,
I was just curious (and a noob so forgive me), I have been noticing a lot of developers switching off to other phones with the departure of jt1134 and the disappearance of ccampos.
Could the Samsung Fascinate's end of life be near? I know there are still developers working but lets face it, the Fascinate isn't as popular as it once was now with the Galaxy Nexus and the Droid Razr.
Well anyways post your thoughts if you agree or disagree that the Fascinate's death is close at hand or not.
Considering my old Eris still has support, I doubt it. Many people won't be due for an upgrade until later this year into early next year, plus the hardware is still very good. JT/sbrissen have done quite a bit of work, and since the Fascinate is a CM supported device we'll see that continue as well.
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I hope support stays around for the fascinate for a while. The fascinate is a great phone and i don't plan on changing phone as long as i can keep my fassy up and running.
Completely disagree, literally 4 new ice cream sandwich ROMS were released in the passed two days. Check the development thread...
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What has been the case historically with older phones such as the Eris that sarkozy mentioned? I would hope that as old developers leave, new ones arrive.
Plenty of people still working on this phone. I had an Eris and they are still deving for it too. I get bored and flash stuff on there every once in a while just to see whats new and poppin.
hi, im Matt and im a flash addict.
Operation Keep Fassy Alive is in full effect.
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Stephen.k.spear said:
Operation Keep Fassy Alive is in full effect.
Thanks to guys like you !
HOOWAH !!!
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x1war said:
Well anyways post your thoughts if you agree or disagree that the Fascinate's death is close at hand or not.
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Only when my battery's below 4%
Terminators run on Android
i've always despised the word "fassy"
dont really know why
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i've always despised the word "fassy"
dont really know why
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Maybe because it really sounds feminine or it rhymes with sassy. That's my reason
Lol
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sol_671 said:
Maybe because it really sounds feminine or it rhymes with sassy. That's my reason
Lol
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lol
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I just picked up a fascinate almost a month ago now. I was coming from the Droid 1, that still sees quite a bit of development. And the Droid as much as I loved it comes nowhere near being as smooth or responsive as this phone. So there is deffinately no hardware restrictions I see causing an end of the road issue. While I havent been around to see what the dev community was, it still seems to be quite healthy from what I've seen lately. Its inevitable that developers move to newer devices but that also opens doors for others to step up to the plate. And as long as there is enough people interested and thankfull for software I think that there will be developers out there willing to work on it.
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which are the ice cream sandwich roms?
Stephen K. Spear posted 3 different ics roms in the development section a couple days ago.
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Completely disagree, literally 4 new ice cream sandwich ROMS were released in the passed two days. Check the development thread...
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I think we should find a way to help those guys, teamhackingsung along with independent developers are working hard to get ICS up on our fassy. I wish I knew how to code or I would be all for helping them out, I have to give them much respect for what they do to fix these phones left without a paddle (so to speak). I still find it amazing how some developers do it for free and just want a simple thank you, does anyone know how to code? I really want to help these guys.
Dang...I feel for you guys. I used my Fascinate as an MP3 player for a while after I got my Nexus. Then one day I decided to flash one of JT's newest builds and it wouldn't boot and couldn't get into recovery. Didn't feel like odining and it's been sitting by my router ever since.
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Dang...I feel for you guys. I used my Fascinate as an MP3 player for a while after I got my Nexus. Then one day I decided to flash one of JT's newest builds and it wouldn't boot and couldn't get into recovery. Didn't feel like odining and it's been sitting by my router ever since.
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Zacisblack... No one likes a bragger...LOL.
In all seriousness, I believe that the Facinate and its developers will be here for the long haul. As long as there are phones out there and people don't have the $$'s to upgrade as often as they like do to the economy. This is my 3 cents worth.
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Dang...I feel for you guys. I used my Fascinate as an MP3 player for a while after I got my Nexus. Then one day I decided to flash one of JT's newest builds and it wouldn't boot and couldn't get into recovery. Didn't feel like odining and it's been sitting by my router ever since.
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Lol donate it to tk-glitch or something. Heck, at least sell it =)
well, now there's this going on...
http://forums.androidcentral.com/verizon-fascinate/155000-verizon-update.html
Looks like VZW is offering upgrades to folks with issues after the OTA GB update. We may be losing even more Fascinate owners.
So after years of enjoying xda anonymously I had to ask: why the sudden secrecy about the ICS leak for the Atrix 4G?
I've been enjoying xda for my Bionic and over 'there' (lol) we don't care. If there is a leak we all go crazy and post howto's and upload it to a dozen fileshare sites, share info and just go buck ass wild.
Over the past couple of days I noticed there was a thread about a leak, then it got deleted, and ever since then it's "That ROM" and everyone is anal about providing info about it. What's the big deal? Really. Someone explain it.
I would love to get an ICS leak for my wife's Atrix 4G. She's having so much trouble with cellular data and Wifi it would be like a new phone to her.
I just went back to stock on my Bionic to wait for a soak test OTA for ICS I was invited for. If it works as well as the leak I've been running for months I'll be happy as a slinky on an escalator (sorry, had to use that one. It's from a US commercial and cracks me up).
So, what's the big deal with the secrecy?
The problem with XDA is perpetual misinformation.
Thread got deleted. People jumped to conclusions, thought it must be Motorola or some other company. Now everyone thinks if they keep it all "hush hush" that they won't realise people are bug testing and developing on the leak lol
The other day people got pissy and suspicious when someone who's been here for years (but only posted recently, sorta like how i started here) because he asked for AT&T APK's and logs (plaintext, anyone could comb through for personal info and remove it before sending).
Joel CTCPRep
coolnow said:
The problem with XDA is perpetual misinformation.
Thread got deleted. People jumped to conclusions, thought it must be Motorola or some other company. Now everyone thinks if they keep it all "hush hush" that they won't realise people are bug testing and developing on the leak lol
The other day people got pissy and suspicious when someone who's been here for years (but only posted recently, sorta like how i started here) because he asked for AT&T APK's and logs (plaintext, anyone could comb through for personal info and remove it before sending).
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I SAW THAT .. that was hilarious. I was really close to comment about that in my first post; something like "Don't worry, I promise I'm no undercover spook from Apple" (since they own the Atrix's fingerprint reader company now). Bringing Apple in here would have really stirred up some ****
I guess I'll wait until things die down and get organized. My wife doesn't like me messing with her phone so I need to get it right the first time lol
Initially there was a mis-understanding due to lack of information, people assumed and inferred too much from epinter's thread removal. Whether or not the paranoia is justified, fact remains that epinter wanted his thread removed and that some company wanted the leak hushed in XDA although they did not do it via the right channels.
Now I think it became the defacto standard to call the leak 'that rom', not due to paranoia but because people are familiar with that name. Its quite cool too, adds a story to our beloved phone.
We are all masons. That's why.
It wasn't apple. It was Microsoft . The sent a dozen ninjas bearing swords coated with a special toxin distilled from a rare variety of cease and desist notice only found growing in the shadow of Steve Jobs's grave stone.
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eddhard said:
It wasn't apple. It was Microsoft . The sent a dozen ninjas bearing swords coated with a special toxin distilled from a rare variety of cease and desist notice only found growing in the shadow of Steve Jobs's grave stone.
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Ladies and gentlemen, the pinnacle of XDA humour.
Leakes are risky business for noods and thread was closed dur to same reason by OP. Thats all not a secret if u try to read more.
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balintmaci said:
pst. a mod said actually said that there were copyright issues with the firmware and they were deciding if it should be taken down.
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...may be THEY hope people forced to buy new device......are they crazy???????? after this BS no more MOTO at least for me....
You guys have reading comprehension issues. Kennethpenn didn't say who it was, except that it *wasn't* Motorola.
Epinter took his thread down on his own, unrelated to any communications about the ROM.
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You guys have reading comprehension issues. Kennethpenn didn't say who it was, except that it *wasn't* Motorola.
Epinter took his thread down on his own, unrelated to any communications about the ROM.
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People see what they want to see. People jump to conclusions. People repeat these assumptions so often that they morph into "the truth". People are idiots.
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People see what they want to see. People jump to conclusions. People repeat these assumptions so often that they morph into "the truth". People are idiots.
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Yes. Only you know what is really going on. Only you are smart. But you won't be sued. You are anonymous but the board is not and I don't think they have enough money to go against software companies.
Be reasonable.
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Yes. Only you know what is really going on. Only you are smart.
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I do often think that I'm one of the few here who has a lick of common sense. But I guess it's easier to go with the smart-ass answer than admit you may be part of the problem, eh?
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But you won't be sued. You are anonymous but the board is not and I don't think they have enough money to go against software companies.
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Interesting. Now, back to what I was actually talking about, re: people making baseless assumptions and running with them until they become convinced it's "the truth" (and presenting it as unsubstantiated fact). Any opinions on that, sir?
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Be reasonable.
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Says the person who won't even discuss the issue I brought up, who instead tries to deflect the issue by talking about something else? Okay, sure.
Atrix ICS/JB over due!!
Atrix deserves an ICS update!! Love this Phone.
Personally I feel that the community should set an example by creating a stable ICS/JB build for the phone.
bhasin.gagan said:
Atrix deserves an ICS update!! Love this Phone.
Personally I feel that the community should set an example by creating a stable ICS/JB build for the phone.
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You're new here, but don't ever expect anything from the community. They "should"? No, they shouldn't do anything, they don't owe you or me anything. Be happy with what they're already done.
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I would love to get an ICS leak for my wife's Atrix 4G.
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Forgive my sense of humour...
If your wife insisting on ICS then the easiest solution is divorcing her, otherwise your marriage is safe in spite of her Atrix ownership.
A working ICS ROM is not going to happen from any ROM leaks unless Motorola finishs cooking the ROM. The support of ICS ROM by XDA members would be an issue, at least for me.
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Forgive my sense of humour...
If your wife insisting on ICS then the easiest solution is divorcing her, otherwise your marriage is safe in spite of her Atrix ownership.
A working ICS ROM is not going to happen from any ROM leaks unless Motorola finishs cooking the ROM. The support of ICS ROM by XDA members would be an issue, at least for me.
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CSharpHeaven said:
Forgive my sense of humour...
If your wife insisting on ICS then the easiest solution is divorcing her, otherwise your marriage is safe in spite of her Atrix ownership.
A working ICS ROM is not going to happen from any ROM leaks unless Motorola finishs cooking the ROM. The support of ICS ROM by XDA members would be an issue, at least for me.
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Cooking????? ROM??????
And why would a Firmware supported by xda developers be a problem for you?
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Lol. My wife doesn't care what she runs but she has horrible issues with cellular data stability. I had too with my Bionic before I installed an ICS leak. That's why I'm banking on this leak.
I don't know the state of this leak, but if it is anything like the Bionic leaks it's good enough.
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You're new here, but don't ever expect anything from the community. They "should"? No, they shouldn't do anything, they don't owe you or me anything. Be happy with what they're already done.
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And if you ever feel the community should do something, set up an example and... do it then share with others.