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Nexus 7 - questions about otg

I have a little problem with buying a nexus 7. I want to buy one but I dont know which version. 8 GB + 32 gb microsd or 16 GB?
8gb + micro sd is 50 $ cheaper in my country but the questions is: does OTG use more power ? i want to keep my music, game on tablet and movies on microsd ? is this a good idea?

If you play hd games buy 16gb,but if you play 1 hd games and some mini games and apps buy 8gb.You can't run apps or games with otg cable.
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kara mustafa said:
I have a little problem with buying a nexus 7. I want to buy one but I dont know which version. 8 GB + 32 gb microsd or 16 GB?
8gb + micro sd is 50 $ cheaper in my country but the questions is: does OTG use more power ? i want to keep my music, game on tablet and movies on microsd ? is this a good idea?
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I have the OTG cable and it works fine for what you describe, but bear in mind that you will not be able to charge the unit while using OTG (at least not any way that I've found yet) . Transfer speeds were decent enough to do 720p, but I went thru 3 card readers before finding one that worked (bought this one from BB being as I had gift certs to burn http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Dynex"+..._source=RatingsAndReviews&utm_content=Default ) Also, regular flash drives work fine as well. Just avoid any that require additional software to be readable (compression software and the like).

emulators and storage

I enjoy using my tab with emulators. I had a tf700 that I sold recently to get money for the nexus 10. Nexus 10 only has 32gb of storage. Is there any way at all to get expandable storage on this thing that's not a giant usb hard drive to store my roms on? Also... would google drive work? would I be able to open a rom from say a nintendo or super nintendo emulator stored on google drive?
if someone could test this for me that'd be great! thanks!

You would have to have thousands of Nintendo and Super Nintendo ROMs in order to fill up a 32GB model. I think I have about 300 and they still take up less than 1GB of space.
You can get a USB OTG cable and a flash drive.

Are 16GB enough for you?

I've a Nexus 7 3G/32GB that I'm selling and I've just ordered a Gt-n5100 but I'm very scared about hdd capacity. Note 8 is only available in my country in 16GB format so I had no choice but since all apps are installed in primary memory and not on SD card now I'm asking to myself if I did a good buy. What can you tell me about this? Are 16gb enough for you? I changed my previous nexus 7 16gb (poor memory) for the 32gb version and it's true that they haven't SD expansion slot.. Do you think SD could solve the problem in any way?
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I came from a Nexus 7 32gb, via a Note 10.1.
Unless you are a hard-core gamer then the 16gb is plenty sui long as you supplement with a micro sd card on which to store your media files etc.
The Note 8.0 is definitely the better device by a good measure, congratulations I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
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Having the microsd slot helps a lot. I have a DROID dna with only 16gb and I wish it had more. Games and media take the most space on a device. Media can easily be store on the microsd.
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16 GB is more than enough for me. I really only use the tablet for the note taking function. But even my 16 GB Galaxy S4 with a large medical library downloaded to the device, still leaves me with like 4 GB free. And I have all of my music stored on the main memory. If you move all of your personal data to SD, I don't see how you can run out of space on the main memory, using it just for apps and app data.

sputnik767 said:
16 GB is more than enough for me. I really only use the tablet for the note taking function. But even my 16 GB Galaxy S4 with a large medical library downloaded to the device, still leaves me with like 4 GB free. And I have all of my music stored on the main memory. If you move all of your personal data to SD, I don't see how you can run out of space on the main memory, using it just for apps and app data.
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16 gb is to little for me to store my music and movies. But hey this is Samsung you have sd card slot

I hope that you are aware The advertised 16 GB is not the actual available capacity.
The fact is that on Galaxy Note 8 you will get around 9 GB for personal storage only on internal SD card as factory default (rest consumed by the default apps etc).
I had to add a 64GB MicroSd card (almost full already) and that gives me some room for stuff.
All depends on your usage but if you need space frequently , you cannot go wrong with an additional 32 GB micro SD card.
btw this tablet should also support the MicroUSB flash drives. so I would not worry much as this has room for expansion if need ever comes to that.

intelliriffer said:
I hope that you are aware The advertised 16 GB is not the actual available capacity.
The fact is that on Galaxy Note 8 you will get around 9 GB for personal storage only on internal SD card as factory default (rest consumed by the default apps etc).
I had to add a 64GB MicroSd card (almost full already) and that gives me some room for stuff.
All depends on your usage but if you need space frequently , you cannot go wrong with an additional 32 GB micro SD card.
btw this tablet should also support the MicroUSB flash drives. so I would not worry much as this has room for expansion if need ever comes to that.
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On my AT&T LTE Note 8 with 16GB internal memory I find that after loading all of my apps (76) and with the Samsung and AT&T apps and the operating system and TouchWiz I have 9.2GB free internal memory. This agrees with your findings.

No. 16g is not enough. Real dopey amount of storage for a tablet like this.
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You cannot just say 16 gbs isn't enough. it's very subjective. On both my phone and tablet, even 8 gbs would've been enough for me. I don't play games or store moves/music. I use Slacker, Netflix and read news/magazines.

aerok said:
You cannot just say 16 gbs isn't enough. it's very subjective. On both my phone and tablet, even 8 gbs would've been enough for me. I don't play games or store moves/music. I use Slacker, Netflix and read news/magazines.
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agree completely; I put a 32 gig external sd card to store music, movies, and pix...I have over 100 apps on here, and still have 4.5 gigs of main memory space available..
plenty of room IMO...

The issue here is games. Clearly Samsung aren't factoring in gamers to their target market for this tablet. The gpu - the Mali 400 is evidence of that. The minimal amount of internal storage also shows Samsung don't expect N8.0 users to install more than 2 or 3 triple A titles at most.
'The Bard's Tale' alone is 3.5GB. 'Horn' is 2.7GB. 'Max Payne Mobile' is 1.4GB.
Bam, there's all your space gone, with hardly anything left for productivity apps.

no offense, but I doubt that any tablet is marketed specifically for gamers; they are more for business professionals/email/magazine/web surfers...
Hard core gamers use consoles or gaming pc's generally, and those folks dont think of tablets as effective hardware for them..

If we actually had 16GB it might be enough. On first power up you only have like 9GB to use...kind of false advertising.
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the OS and cache have to go somewhere, dont they?

wase4711 said:
the OS and cache have to go somewhere, dont they?
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So factor that into the design so that when you advertise a 16GB storage device people actually GET 16GB off storage. I think there is already a class action lawsuit against Samsung for the S4 due to this issue.
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as you well know, EVERY device/tablet/laptop/pc maker pretty much says the same kind of thing when it comes to advertising the "size" of their machine; you know that a 2 TB computer never really has 2TB of "available space" on it, since the os/swapfile etc has to go somewhere, and this is how electronics have been sold for a long long time.
I'm not saying I dont agree with you, but I dont see this kind of "unrealistic" advertising od device space/capacity changing any time soon..

wase4711 said:
as you well know, EVERY device/tablet/laptop/pc maker pretty much says the same kind of thing when it comes to advertising the "size" of their machine; you know that a 2 TB computer never really has 2TB of "available space" on it, since the os/swapfile etc has to go somewhere, and this is how electronics have been sold for a long long time.
I'm not saying I dont agree with you, but I dont see this kind of "unrealistic" advertising od device space/capacity changing any time soon..
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Well, if the class action lawsuit does enough damage and more start being held to task, it might change. I also get what you are saying, but the criticism of Samsung right now is that it's not just 1-2GB out of 16GB...it's almost half. In other words, it is unreasonable and excessive in it's advertising. So as much as I've been a Samsung supporter over the years, I hope they get beat pretty bad and start to change this negative pattern.

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the OS and cache have to go somewhere, dont they?
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if it's like the s4 then it's got a reserved 6GB partition (at least i read that somewhere). so they should advertise the useable space and the amount of memory shared for the video.
why they don't let you do a fresh install like any pc is beyond me. tablets have come too far to be still treated as less than a computer.
i'm still on the fence about getting the 8. i keep adding it to cart at amazon and then closing the tab. i almost got it at walmart after seeing the box and falling in love!

there's alot to love with this tablet..nobody who has seen one or bought one has anything bad to say about it...

I would like to see the Apps2SD stuff come from the Galaxy S4 or a setting to use the card in place of the internal data mounted as the sd card but yes, it is enough for me.
I would have bought a 64GB or 32GB model if possible but as games are the only big local data I have - I could use the card or a usb drive if I needed to have offline access to movies and music and such. Everything but games lives on my local server or in a cloud service; often both. So I can live with the storage.
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[Q] Expanding Internal storage

OBB data on SD card
I'm using 32GB sd card on 16GB Nvidia Shield..
There is option to move apps and games to sd card.. The OBB data won't support only the application apk are moved actually to sd card... I know this issue is seen from kitkat when Google blocked app to use to sd card.. But in lollipop it was reverted.. So now is it application developer that they are not using sd card or its the OS limitation?
Because games OBB data take all the inbuilt storage... Any solutions for this?

Was this fixed in the 1.2 firmware? They specifically state something about the apps moving to sdcard.

tested this the other day after the update. I installed a 2.6gb game and moved it to a 64gb micro sd. It moved the entire game. i have 2.6gb on the sd card and no storage missing from my system. Nvidia is killing it with this system!!!

jerflash said:
tested this the other day after the update. I installed a 2.6gb game and moved it to a 64gb micro sd. It moved the entire game. i have 2.6gb on the sd card and no storage missing from my system. Nvidia is killing it with this system!!!
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Yes they are, I am not used to such support.
After the update I noticed all of games on sdcard did not show up for about 5 minutes. I wonder if it moved everything over for me or if I have to remove and reinstall each game?

stackdaddy said:
Yes they are, I am not used to such support.
After the update I noticed all of games on sdcard did not show up for about 5 minutes. I wonder if it moved everything over for me or if I have to remove and reinstall each game?
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everything worked fine for me...you should not have to do that

Would this work with an external hard drive as well?

uhmump95 said:
Would this work with an external hard drive as well?
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Nope it's only an option for the Micro SD slot. You cannot put apps on any USB device
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Well I guess if I get this I will have to go with the 500 gb version.
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uhmump95 said:
Well I guess if I get this I will have to go with the 500 gb version.
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500gb version has a hybrid drive with a small flash storage combined with the HDD. It's a good option I just thing the 16gb version with an SD card is more flexible and may perform better in the long run
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I just moved beach buggy game which was 140mb, at that time internal storage was 8.4 after moving to micro SD card my internal storage is 9gb and on micro SD card whole 140mb data was moved

digweed4me said:
I just moved beach buggy game which was 140mb, at that time internal storage was 8.4 after moving to micro SD card my internal storage is 9gb and on micro SD card whole 140mb data was moved
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Looking at the pictures on the nVidia slides, do you know if it's possible to open up the casing and install a 2.5" drive yourself ? I might have an old 2.5" drive somewhere. Looks like a drive bay with a regular SATA connector, like the PS3 or PS4.

loekf said:
Looking at the pictures on the nVidia slides, do you know if it's possible to open up the casing and install a 2.5" drive yourself ? I might have an old 2.5" drive somewhere. Looks like a drive bay with a regular SATA connector, like the PS3 or PS4.
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I believe I read the non-Pro version does not have the connector available. There IS a spot for a surface mount connection, but that would take some semi-experienced soldering.

I'm interested to know what the people who went for the HD model are storing on there? I stream all my media so a 64gb Micro sd would probably be more than sufficient for apps and android games. If the markup to the HD model was $50 it would be a no brainier, but $100 is a bit steep. I'm guessing we might see a price drop in upcoming months. The device is definitely to my "to get" list, im UK based so will import via amazon

baileyjr said:
I'm interested to know what the people who went for the HD model are storing on there? I stream all my media so a 64gb Micro sd would probably be more than sufficient for apps and android games. If the markup to the HD model was $50 it would be a no brainier, but $100 is a bit steep. I'm guessing we might see a price drop in upcoming months. The device is definitely to my "to get" list, im UK based so will import via amazon
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I don't know if the Shield tablet is the same but even though I use Foldermount to move game data to external SD, I ended up maxing out my internal storage since it still keeps some of the app internally along with my other apps. If the move to sd option on the shield TV does the same, then eventually you will run out of internal memory. But from what I'm reading here, it moves everything, so you might be ok. The problem with my shield tablet is since I'm out of internal memory I cannot update any of my games and large apps unless I make more room.. So I decided to go with the 500gb with the shield TV so I don't run into any issues later. I'm also going to download movies so I need more room.

I believe it does more the whole app now buddy. I do understand the need for local storage if you'r storing films and other media on there. Its just for my use case I have a NAS device plugged into my wireless router and just stream everything from there. Getting a NAS was the best purchase I ever made and I would recommend it to anyone. I think it was like $100 and them I just dropped a 4tb drive in there. Instant network share and streaming for all the devices in the home.

I got the 500gb. After owning the Shield Portable and then the Shield Tablet. I did not want to got through the lack of storage again. I did not like moving apps to the sd card since it is much slower storage. Also I used my refund from the Beats Pill XL recall so it was an easy choice of which Shield version to get.

I for one don't like the idea of the OS running off the hd of the 500gb model so I bought me a high performing micro sd. This one has read/write speeds up to 90mb/s.
I have yet to test its performance off of the Shield console but I've read these cards perform around the max speeds on the Shield tablet.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00NU...xtreme+pro&dpPl=1&dpID=416zADw75yL&ref=plSrch

Se7eN43 said:
I for one don't like the idea of the OS running off the hd of the 500gb model so I bought me a high performing micro sd. This one has read/write speeds up to 90mb/s.
I have yet to test its performance off of the Shield console but I've read these cards perform around the max speeds on the Shield tablet.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00NU...xtreme+pro&dpPl=1&dpID=416zADw75yL&ref=plSrch
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I bought the lexar 128gb rated at 95mb/s for my note 4, and using A1 Sd benchmark I only get 46mb read / 17mb write. I will side load that app to my console and see how the card does compared to the 500gb drive.

aznmode said:
I bought the lexar 128gb rated at 95mb/s for my note 4, and using A1 Sd benchmark I only get 46mb read / 17mb write. I will side load that app to my console and see how the card does compared to the 500gb drive.
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You have to be careful when looking at these micro SD cards and their write speeds. A lot of them just say "up to 90MB/s", but never specify if that is read or write speeds until you dig through the tech details. I also came across the Lexar first, but noticed that the write speeds were very low, which actually seems to be the norm for most 128GB cards at the moment.
The only two I would recommend is the above Sandisk Extreme Pro 64GB, or the Samsung 64GB Pro. I actually just bought the Samsung tonight as a used Amazon warehouse deal for $36, still facotry sealed.

Only card I recommend anyone buy these days are the Samsung Evo cards. I have had zero issues with them. Plenty fast. I record 4K straight to the card all of the time without any glitches.
I'm actually running an older sandisk extreme 64gb in my shield right now because I had it living around. Had problems in my LG g3 with it but it is working flawless in my shield... Go figure.
I'm also running all of my video and emulated roms off of a 64gb usb 2.0 stick from sandisk. Works great
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is this worth getting over the amazon fire tv?

I own a amazon firetv stick (late to the party) had it for a month or more seen the new model is coming out was about to buy the box this time as im loving using kodi on it, I would however like to use it as a android gaming machine eg make use of the sd card slot and usb ports I know it doesnt support the google play store, ive been sideloading apps on my fire tv stick.can the shield do the same eg use usb storage and sideload games that are not the android tv platform?
what would you reccomend as there is a big price gap between both, I know the shield comes with a controller but it doesnt include a remote and the fire tv includes a remote but no controller

I personally am glad that I bought this box. It's the most powerful Android box on the market and it might not be superseded for a long time, especially in terms of android gaming. The main issue for me with the Fire TV which I did consider was that it uses an non-mainline branch of android and is relatively heavily locked down.
On the other hand this box isn't without it's drawbacks, the price being the main one. It's aimed at casual gamers, yet the price for the 500 GB version is creeping close to that of full-sized consoles. I also personally do not like the Nvidia controller and have hacked it to use a PS4 controller.
Sideload apps is of course possible, but hit-and-miss when using a controller. The touchpad on the PS4 controller is especially useful here.
As for the lack of a remote, the Shield does have an IR port and I had falsely assumed that there would be some way of programming it to respond to any old IR remote. That doesn't seem to be the case, at least not yet.
In conclusion, if you have the money and are really only into casual/android games like me then the 16 GB model + SD card is a safe bet. However if you like to have a large selection of AAA games and you don't care about all the media and emulation capabilities of the Shield then you're better off spending a little extra on a console.

I bought the 16gb model and I'm not disappointed. I'm not really into native android gaming and have a fair selection of emulators installed but all the ROMS are no an external usb drive. If your streaming games via GRID or a PC then they take up zero space on your device. Having been spoiled by AAA PC games I find native android gaming underwhelming.

Something else worth noting about Nvidia GameStream: Don't make the mistake I made. I assumed that all modern Nvidia cards are GameStream capable and that simply isn't the case. It's still restricted only to the higher end GTX cards.

I love my Shield, I got the 16 GB model since I figured if I needed more storage I would use a MicroSD and USB HDD (which I currently do) but it not as easy to use compared to the 500 GB model. Mine bricked itself after an update and if I can't fix it I'm going to see if I can get the 500 GB model for an extra charge after I RMA the 16 GB or I may just buy it flat out.

I think the 500Gb model is only worth it if your going to install a load of android games. Even then after rooting and setting up Foldermount to map the Obb and data folders to the usb drive I haven't experienced any problems. The only thing I use the micro sd for now is capturing video. I just feel the $100 markup to the 500gb version is overpriced. It should have been $50 more and it would have been a no brainier.

I have a bunch of ROMs for old games on my external HDD currently (a few hundred GB worth) and I have a bunch of big games installed on my microSD.

so you need to root to install games on sd / usb
but what about the nvidia updates, can that affect the root? and brick the box
is there guide for this.. as i would like to put all my games ideally on an sd card 64gb or a 1tb usb external?

Flashed with full android 1.8 the shield become a emulating beast able to run anything you throw at it. It is a really great htpc/PC replacement.
And with link2sd you can move large games obb to sd.