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just curious as to which people would rather have if given the option
Sd for me
I wouldnt use hdmi that much but could always use extra memory for on the go
SD expansion for me.
SD all the way
I have to say HDMI, I use sixaxis controller with my games, connected to TV would be great gaming/entertainment system. I have a 16 gb model and don't save much locally.
Probably go with HDMI. have tons of storage on my gs3 and in the cloud.
No interest - at all - in HDMI.
Only interested in an SD slot if it could be used to dual boot.
Would love to have custom roms on SD cards, and have the Nexus boot stock otherwise.
Stickmount is my preferred way of playing movies from USB flash - performance is better than SD.
SD as HTC media link for TV streaming is good enough for me
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This time last year i would have said sd now i'd actually prefer hdmi. Used to think hdmi was something I'd rarely use but found i like being able to use hdmi for movies and games.
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I am perfectly happy with my Nexus 7 in its current state :victory:
But I would definitely choose SD card slot over HDMI capabilities.
It is convenient at times to switch out memory quickly, especially if you own multiple micro SD cards.
HDMI for sure. Would love to have video out for gaming and movies.
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I see everyone saying they'll get the 16GB and even complaining that's not enough for them. Here's the thing. I'm a pretty tidy person when it comes to memory. I only keep in my phone the music that I know I'll be listening, not my whole collection (1GB max). When I take photos, I either delete them whenever I go across them or if I want to keep them I send them to my dropbox. Same for videos. I'm that kind of person that if he sees his gallery is becoming big, will save the few photos and videos that are really important and delete the other 200 without heasisating. I might play one of these big hd games, but I'll install it, play it and uninstall it afterwards. Last but not least, when it comes to movies or series that I plan to see on my phone, I download them on the PC, transfer them to the phone and delete them as soon as I've seen them.
So, right now I'm using a galaxy S with an external 8gb micro sd. That's a total of 16GB, and I'm using 6GB after some time of not cleaning. Normally it's 4-5GB.
My logic is, if I get the 8GB model and use an external pendrive and usb OTG for the movies/series, wouldn't it be enough? 50€ is a big deal for me
You've talked yourself into it and, going from what you've said, I'd agree with you. I'm gonna get the 16GB version cause I can not because I need to
When 8GB prevents you from doing something you really want to do, that $50 won't be as big a deal then. But seriously, I think that the 16GB model will even have better resell when it comes time to upgrade as most people prefer the larger storage as evidenced by this forum. Everybody's needs and wants are different, but as for me, I'm not even hesistating, it's 16GB for me.
Here is my breakdown:
Sygic GPS - 4.5GB storage space (maps stored locally on the device)
Pictures - around 3GB
Nandroid backups - I have usually 1-2 on my phone which usually means 1-2GB
This usually results in about 3-4GB of storage space to play with for me....
See, I do backups but I don't store them on my phone (sounds a bit stupid if you ask me), and I always use the maps navigation for gps. The reselling argument seems like a good point though.
The thing you need to keep in mind is that that 8 or 16GB is your total storage for the device. the 8GB Nexus 7 has 5.92GB of free space with no apps installed (except the system ones that come with it, obviously). And, if I remember correctly, the Galaxy S has 1GB of application storage in addition. With the Nexus 4, every application you install, even if it doesn't have to download additional files to the "sdcard", will be eating into that 5.92GB of storage you have.
^This! Will definitely get 16gb!!
Use the cloud and Google music. If your using Tmo get unlimited data and you will be fine streaming on hspa 42
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I see everyone saying they'll get the 16GB and even complaining that's not enough for them. Here's the thing. I'm a pretty tidy person when it comes to memory. I only keep in my phone the music that I know I'll be listening, not my whole collection (1GB max). When I take photos, I either delete them whenever I go across them or if I want to keep them I send them to my dropbox. Same for videos. I'm that kind of person that if he sees his gallery is becoming big, will save the few photos and videos that are really important and delete the other 200 without heasisating. I might play one of these big hd games, but I'll install it, play it and uninstall it afterwards. Last but not least, when it comes to movies or series that I plan to see on my phone, I download them on the PC, transfer them to the phone and delete them as soon as I've seen them.
So, right now I'm using a galaxy S with an external 8gb micro sd. That's a total of 16GB, and I'm using 6GB after some time of not cleaning. Normally it's 4-5GB.
My logic is, if I get the 8GB model and use an external pendrive and usb OTG for the movies/series, wouldn't it be enough? 50€ is a big deal for me
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Buy 8 GB version
And I was thinking that if I do not get memory sometimes can get a USB OTG and resolve. Rather than give so much money, better give one dollar for such a cable.
And who knows? Usually use the most how much memory you have. Those who will buy the 16 GB version I bet from her to him and USB OTG.
So there's no point to invest so for 8 GB.
Now Nexus 7 16GB is $ 200 .. perfect for everyone!
If you want more put something nice to sit wi-fi, 3G and 32 GB!
This about the real space available being around 5.7GB bugs me really hard now. Thinking that the amazing new phone I'm gonna get has less space than I'm using at this very moment doesn't sound right. Guess I'll go for the 16GB. Better regret something I did than something I didn't do.
I also think I can manage 8gb (not even coming close to using it up on my current phone, thouh lately I havent been using it that much as a smart phone), but I think I will get the 16gb. One of the main reason why is that I plan on having the phone for a while. I think this is a significant point, since while I'd currently be able to manage with the 6gb (don't count on more than 8) my usage might change (ex. I mihgt have some heavy games installed), and I'd probably want to have at least a gb free (so that'd leave 5 gb) for just in case situations, ex for making a nandroid, or shooting a 30-second-turned-15-minute HD video, or to try out a new very big game, or to download a new distro I want to try out and dd it to a usb (via otg,ofc) using my phone because I'm feeling lazy and dont want to get up and the usb and cable were right next to me (I am joking, but I have done this, though, on a tablet but similar situation).
This brings me to something else that might pop up in the future and that could use up space (though, if it does come, it may be possible to put it onto a usb, or they may immediately ship the software in a dock, psst, don't tell canonical, I want to profit of off this idea ); ubuntu for android (or something similar). Seeing as how canonical ported/is porting (native) ubuntu to the nexus 7 I think there is a chance they might port ubuntu for android to the nexus 4, especially if it sells a lot, which we all know it will. Oh, yeah. Don't mix up Ubuntu on the nexus 7 (if you already heard about it, or google it) with ubuntu for android (the former replaces android, the latter supplements it). While I'm not a fan of Ubuntu, and I probably wouldn't use it that much, the geeky coolness of it would definitely overrule the practical usage of space but thats just me, you might find it useful, or not have it at all.
just buy the 8gb version, that 299 price tag looks damn sexy
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Today I did an excercise with my LG G2x to see if 8Gb will be enough:
Here is my current setup:
1) Internal storage: 1.48GB (788 MB used, it has OS and sys apps)
2) Internal SD card: 5.22GB (4GB used)
3) SDCard: 32GB (12GB used)
The goal of this experiment was to see if I can do without 32GB sd card as I will have about the same storage space as 8gb N4.
1.48 + 5.22 = 6.7Gb
And N4 has 7.45GB (Not 8GB, as 8GB is in decimal system which equates to 7.45GB)
8,000,000,000 / (1024 x 1024 x 1024) = 7.45Gb
Anyways, assuming N4 will be left with 5.92GB after OS and System apps (people from N7 8Gb have this much available).
I deleted all possible crap from the Internal SD card (#2) but the "Android" folder was huge, over a gb. Plus there were tons of other folders created by apps equating to 600 mb.
Mind you I dont have much useful stuff in my 32gb sd card. So I moved my camera pictures and music to Internal SD card and moved backups to 32gb SD card.
So now I could barely fit everything in my Internal SDcard: its 5.11GB full. With no crap: Only has Music, camera taken pics and 700mb of videos and ofcourse "data" from android and app data.
So if I add 788MB from the Internal storage (from #1) which has OS I will be at 5.8 GB
That leaves me with 100 mb in my brand new N4 for taking what 50 pics? Maybe? Or 25 Photosphers?
For those interested: I am running clean lean CM7 with 32 apps, 2 of which are games.
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See, I do backups but I don't store them on my phone (sounds a bit stupid if you ask me), and I always use the maps navigation for gps. The reselling argument seems like a good point though.
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Lucky guy to be in an area that lets you use maps over the air. I could not manage on google alone, and use Sygic.
I enjoy using my tab with emulators. I had a tf700 that I sold recently to get money for the nexus 10. Nexus 10 only has 32gb of storage. Is there any way at all to get expandable storage on this thing that's not a giant usb hard drive to store my roms on? Also... would google drive work? would I be able to open a rom from say a nintendo or super nintendo emulator stored on google drive?
if someone could test this for me that'd be great! thanks!
You would have to have thousands of Nintendo and Super Nintendo ROMs in order to fill up a 32GB model. I think I have about 300 and they still take up less than 1GB of space.
You can get a USB OTG cable and a flash drive.
OBB data on SD card
I'm using 32GB sd card on 16GB Nvidia Shield..
There is option to move apps and games to sd card.. The OBB data won't support only the application apk are moved actually to sd card... I know this issue is seen from kitkat when Google blocked app to use to sd card.. But in lollipop it was reverted.. So now is it application developer that they are not using sd card or its the OS limitation?
Because games OBB data take all the inbuilt storage... Any solutions for this?
Was this fixed in the 1.2 firmware? They specifically state something about the apps moving to sdcard.
tested this the other day after the update. I installed a 2.6gb game and moved it to a 64gb micro sd. It moved the entire game. i have 2.6gb on the sd card and no storage missing from my system. Nvidia is killing it with this system!!!
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tested this the other day after the update. I installed a 2.6gb game and moved it to a 64gb micro sd. It moved the entire game. i have 2.6gb on the sd card and no storage missing from my system. Nvidia is killing it with this system!!!
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Yes they are, I am not used to such support.
After the update I noticed all of games on sdcard did not show up for about 5 minutes. I wonder if it moved everything over for me or if I have to remove and reinstall each game?
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Yes they are, I am not used to such support.
After the update I noticed all of games on sdcard did not show up for about 5 minutes. I wonder if it moved everything over for me or if I have to remove and reinstall each game?
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everything worked fine for me...you should not have to do that
Would this work with an external hard drive as well?
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Would this work with an external hard drive as well?
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Nope it's only an option for the Micro SD slot. You cannot put apps on any USB device
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Well I guess if I get this I will have to go with the 500 gb version.
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uhmump95 said:
Well I guess if I get this I will have to go with the 500 gb version.
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500gb version has a hybrid drive with a small flash storage combined with the HDD. It's a good option I just thing the 16gb version with an SD card is more flexible and may perform better in the long run
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I just moved beach buggy game which was 140mb, at that time internal storage was 8.4 after moving to micro SD card my internal storage is 9gb and on micro SD card whole 140mb data was moved
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I just moved beach buggy game which was 140mb, at that time internal storage was 8.4 after moving to micro SD card my internal storage is 9gb and on micro SD card whole 140mb data was moved
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Looking at the pictures on the nVidia slides, do you know if it's possible to open up the casing and install a 2.5" drive yourself ? I might have an old 2.5" drive somewhere. Looks like a drive bay with a regular SATA connector, like the PS3 or PS4.
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Looking at the pictures on the nVidia slides, do you know if it's possible to open up the casing and install a 2.5" drive yourself ? I might have an old 2.5" drive somewhere. Looks like a drive bay with a regular SATA connector, like the PS3 or PS4.
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I believe I read the non-Pro version does not have the connector available. There IS a spot for a surface mount connection, but that would take some semi-experienced soldering.
I'm interested to know what the people who went for the HD model are storing on there? I stream all my media so a 64gb Micro sd would probably be more than sufficient for apps and android games. If the markup to the HD model was $50 it would be a no brainier, but $100 is a bit steep. I'm guessing we might see a price drop in upcoming months. The device is definitely to my "to get" list, im UK based so will import via amazon
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I'm interested to know what the people who went for the HD model are storing on there? I stream all my media so a 64gb Micro sd would probably be more than sufficient for apps and android games. If the markup to the HD model was $50 it would be a no brainier, but $100 is a bit steep. I'm guessing we might see a price drop in upcoming months. The device is definitely to my "to get" list, im UK based so will import via amazon
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I don't know if the Shield tablet is the same but even though I use Foldermount to move game data to external SD, I ended up maxing out my internal storage since it still keeps some of the app internally along with my other apps. If the move to sd option on the shield TV does the same, then eventually you will run out of internal memory. But from what I'm reading here, it moves everything, so you might be ok. The problem with my shield tablet is since I'm out of internal memory I cannot update any of my games and large apps unless I make more room.. So I decided to go with the 500gb with the shield TV so I don't run into any issues later. I'm also going to download movies so I need more room.
I believe it does more the whole app now buddy. I do understand the need for local storage if you'r storing films and other media on there. Its just for my use case I have a NAS device plugged into my wireless router and just stream everything from there. Getting a NAS was the best purchase I ever made and I would recommend it to anyone. I think it was like $100 and them I just dropped a 4tb drive in there. Instant network share and streaming for all the devices in the home.
I got the 500gb. After owning the Shield Portable and then the Shield Tablet. I did not want to got through the lack of storage again. I did not like moving apps to the sd card since it is much slower storage. Also I used my refund from the Beats Pill XL recall so it was an easy choice of which Shield version to get.
I for one don't like the idea of the OS running off the hd of the 500gb model so I bought me a high performing micro sd. This one has read/write speeds up to 90mb/s.
I have yet to test its performance off of the Shield console but I've read these cards perform around the max speeds on the Shield tablet.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00NU...xtreme+pro&dpPl=1&dpID=416zADw75yL&ref=plSrch
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I for one don't like the idea of the OS running off the hd of the 500gb model so I bought me a high performing micro sd. This one has read/write speeds up to 90mb/s.
I have yet to test its performance off of the Shield console but I've read these cards perform around the max speeds on the Shield tablet.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00NU...xtreme+pro&dpPl=1&dpID=416zADw75yL&ref=plSrch
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I bought the lexar 128gb rated at 95mb/s for my note 4, and using A1 Sd benchmark I only get 46mb read / 17mb write. I will side load that app to my console and see how the card does compared to the 500gb drive.
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I bought the lexar 128gb rated at 95mb/s for my note 4, and using A1 Sd benchmark I only get 46mb read / 17mb write. I will side load that app to my console and see how the card does compared to the 500gb drive.
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You have to be careful when looking at these micro SD cards and their write speeds. A lot of them just say "up to 90MB/s", but never specify if that is read or write speeds until you dig through the tech details. I also came across the Lexar first, but noticed that the write speeds were very low, which actually seems to be the norm for most 128GB cards at the moment.
The only two I would recommend is the above Sandisk Extreme Pro 64GB, or the Samsung 64GB Pro. I actually just bought the Samsung tonight as a used Amazon warehouse deal for $36, still facotry sealed.
Only card I recommend anyone buy these days are the Samsung Evo cards. I have had zero issues with them. Plenty fast. I record 4K straight to the card all of the time without any glitches.
I'm actually running an older sandisk extreme 64gb in my shield right now because I had it living around. Had problems in my LG g3 with it but it is working flawless in my shield... Go figure.
I'm also running all of my video and emulated roms off of a 64gb usb 2.0 stick from sandisk. Works great
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Hey guys, i'm looking to get the shield tv, I want to spend the less possible. The 16Gb version is on sale for 20$CAD less, so 179.99$CAD. And I found some 128Gb micro SD cards for less than 50$CAD. For a total of around 275$CAD I could get the 16Gb + 128Gb sdcard. The 500Gb is 440$CAD at checkout. Now the real question is, should i got for the 16Gb with external memory mounted as internal memory (how does it work for you? Do you recommend it?) or go for the 500Gb? I want to use it to run my plex server on it and all my movies, musics, etc.. would be on my external hdd. And a lot of gaming.
What would you recommend me to do?
I wish I went for the 16gb option...
Edit: since I hate it takes 2 hours to wipe if going with a custom OS and/or unlocking the bootloader.
I do have to say having 500gb was a good idea before marshmallow 6.0 and adoptable storage arrived. Now the 500gb is more optional.
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It all depends what you want to use the extra storage for.
For a few games, I think you don't need the Pro. But if you want to keep your video library on the Shield...
Personally I would choose again: 16GB Shield + 64GB microSD + external HDD (for media).
But a 16GB Shield for 125€? I wouldn't hesitate!
PS: Bought the Shield on Black Friday for 175€ (remote included), the 64GB SanDisk Ultra (class 10) for 15€ on a later offer and the HDD (Seagate Expansion 2TB) one Black Friday earlier for about 75€. I don't know the situation in Canada, but in Germany the difference is of 100€ between the two versions (200€ vs 300€)
daniel_loft said:
It all depends what you want to use the extra storage for.
For a few games, I think you don't need the Pro. But if you want to keep your video library on the Shield...
Personally I would choose again: 16GB Shield + 64GB microSD + external HDD (for media).
But a 16GB Shield for 125€? I wouldn't hesitate!
PS: Bought the Shield on Black Friday for 175€ (remote included), the 64GB SanDisk Ultra (class 10) for 15€ on a later offer and the HDD (Seagate Expansion 2TB) one Black Friday earlier for about 75€. I don't know the situation in Canada, but in Germany the difference is of 100€ between the two versions (200€ vs 300€)
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How does the storage work with a sd card? Can you put the full version of a game on it(obb, data, ...)? I'm thinking of doing the same for my media, but for game I plan to play a lot of my already bought play store games (GTA, Modern combat, Talos, ans other big games..) but I juste want to be sure i can have games on the sd card.
Cannot really say. My games are rather few and small. I don't even think I go to really use that SD card. Maybe the official Nvidia forums are better source of information about this.
You have to format the SD card as "Internal Storage" .. AKA Adoptable Storage.
Once this is complete you will have the option to install / move apps (or games) over in their entirety.
I have to point out though that I have tried a Class10 SD card and found performance to be noticeably slower.. Enough to the point that I decided not to use it... So.. It will work but performance may or may not become an issue for you.
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How does the storage work with a sd card? Can you put the full version of a game on it(obb, data, ...)? I'm thinking of doing the same for my media, but for game I plan to play a lot of my already bought play store games (GTA, Modern combat, Talos, ans other big games..) but I juste want to be sure i can have games on the sd card.
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This is your best bet if you want speed for your adoptable storage. https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extr...nements=p_n_feature_two_browse-bin:6518305011