I've a Nexus 7 3G/32GB that I'm selling and I've just ordered a Gt-n5100 but I'm very scared about hdd capacity. Note 8 is only available in my country in 16GB format so I had no choice but since all apps are installed in primary memory and not on SD card now I'm asking to myself if I did a good buy. What can you tell me about this? Are 16gb enough for you? I changed my previous nexus 7 16gb (poor memory) for the 32gb version and it's true that they haven't SD expansion slot.. Do you think SD could solve the problem in any way?
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I came from a Nexus 7 32gb, via a Note 10.1.
Unless you are a hard-core gamer then the 16gb is plenty sui long as you supplement with a micro sd card on which to store your media files etc.
The Note 8.0 is definitely the better device by a good measure, congratulations I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
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Having the microsd slot helps a lot. I have a DROID dna with only 16gb and I wish it had more. Games and media take the most space on a device. Media can easily be store on the microsd.
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16 GB is more than enough for me. I really only use the tablet for the note taking function. But even my 16 GB Galaxy S4 with a large medical library downloaded to the device, still leaves me with like 4 GB free. And I have all of my music stored on the main memory. If you move all of your personal data to SD, I don't see how you can run out of space on the main memory, using it just for apps and app data.
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16 GB is more than enough for me. I really only use the tablet for the note taking function. But even my 16 GB Galaxy S4 with a large medical library downloaded to the device, still leaves me with like 4 GB free. And I have all of my music stored on the main memory. If you move all of your personal data to SD, I don't see how you can run out of space on the main memory, using it just for apps and app data.
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16 gb is to little for me to store my music and movies. But hey this is Samsung you have sd card slot
I hope that you are aware The advertised 16 GB is not the actual available capacity.
The fact is that on Galaxy Note 8 you will get around 9 GB for personal storage only on internal SD card as factory default (rest consumed by the default apps etc).
I had to add a 64GB MicroSd card (almost full already) and that gives me some room for stuff.
All depends on your usage but if you need space frequently , you cannot go wrong with an additional 32 GB micro SD card.
btw this tablet should also support the MicroUSB flash drives. so I would not worry much as this has room for expansion if need ever comes to that.
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I hope that you are aware The advertised 16 GB is not the actual available capacity.
The fact is that on Galaxy Note 8 you will get around 9 GB for personal storage only on internal SD card as factory default (rest consumed by the default apps etc).
I had to add a 64GB MicroSd card (almost full already) and that gives me some room for stuff.
All depends on your usage but if you need space frequently , you cannot go wrong with an additional 32 GB micro SD card.
btw this tablet should also support the MicroUSB flash drives. so I would not worry much as this has room for expansion if need ever comes to that.
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On my AT&T LTE Note 8 with 16GB internal memory I find that after loading all of my apps (76) and with the Samsung and AT&T apps and the operating system and TouchWiz I have 9.2GB free internal memory. This agrees with your findings.
No. 16g is not enough. Real dopey amount of storage for a tablet like this.
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You cannot just say 16 gbs isn't enough. it's very subjective. On both my phone and tablet, even 8 gbs would've been enough for me. I don't play games or store moves/music. I use Slacker, Netflix and read news/magazines.
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You cannot just say 16 gbs isn't enough. it's very subjective. On both my phone and tablet, even 8 gbs would've been enough for me. I don't play games or store moves/music. I use Slacker, Netflix and read news/magazines.
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agree completely; I put a 32 gig external sd card to store music, movies, and pix...I have over 100 apps on here, and still have 4.5 gigs of main memory space available..
plenty of room IMO...
The issue here is games. Clearly Samsung aren't factoring in gamers to their target market for this tablet. The gpu - the Mali 400 is evidence of that. The minimal amount of internal storage also shows Samsung don't expect N8.0 users to install more than 2 or 3 triple A titles at most.
'The Bard's Tale' alone is 3.5GB. 'Horn' is 2.7GB. 'Max Payne Mobile' is 1.4GB.
Bam, there's all your space gone, with hardly anything left for productivity apps.
no offense, but I doubt that any tablet is marketed specifically for gamers; they are more for business professionals/email/magazine/web surfers...
Hard core gamers use consoles or gaming pc's generally, and those folks dont think of tablets as effective hardware for them..
If we actually had 16GB it might be enough. On first power up you only have like 9GB to use...kind of false advertising.
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the OS and cache have to go somewhere, dont they?
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the OS and cache have to go somewhere, dont they?
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So factor that into the design so that when you advertise a 16GB storage device people actually GET 16GB off storage. I think there is already a class action lawsuit against Samsung for the S4 due to this issue.
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as you well know, EVERY device/tablet/laptop/pc maker pretty much says the same kind of thing when it comes to advertising the "size" of their machine; you know that a 2 TB computer never really has 2TB of "available space" on it, since the os/swapfile etc has to go somewhere, and this is how electronics have been sold for a long long time.
I'm not saying I dont agree with you, but I dont see this kind of "unrealistic" advertising od device space/capacity changing any time soon..
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as you well know, EVERY device/tablet/laptop/pc maker pretty much says the same kind of thing when it comes to advertising the "size" of their machine; you know that a 2 TB computer never really has 2TB of "available space" on it, since the os/swapfile etc has to go somewhere, and this is how electronics have been sold for a long long time.
I'm not saying I dont agree with you, but I dont see this kind of "unrealistic" advertising od device space/capacity changing any time soon..
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Well, if the class action lawsuit does enough damage and more start being held to task, it might change. I also get what you are saying, but the criticism of Samsung right now is that it's not just 1-2GB out of 16GB...it's almost half. In other words, it is unreasonable and excessive in it's advertising. So as much as I've been a Samsung supporter over the years, I hope they get beat pretty bad and start to change this negative pattern.
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if it's like the s4 then it's got a reserved 6GB partition (at least i read that somewhere). so they should advertise the useable space and the amount of memory shared for the video.
why they don't let you do a fresh install like any pc is beyond me. tablets have come too far to be still treated as less than a computer.
i'm still on the fence about getting the 8. i keep adding it to cart at amazon and then closing the tab. i almost got it at walmart after seeing the box and falling in love!
there's alot to love with this tablet..nobody who has seen one or bought one has anything bad to say about it...
I would like to see the Apps2SD stuff come from the Galaxy S4 or a setting to use the card in place of the internal data mounted as the sd card but yes, it is enough for me.
I would have bought a 64GB or 32GB model if possible but as games are the only big local data I have - I could use the card or a usb drive if I needed to have offline access to movies and music and such. Everything but games lives on my local server or in a cloud service; often both. So I can live with the storage.
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Going to be asked sooner or later so why not?
16GB. Although this whole $50 for 8GB and $100 for 16GB upgrade in the smartphone world really bothers me. It's just expensive.
I will probably go with 8. I always go with the cheapest version of any phone I get in order to upgrade to something down the line that much easier without losing too much, if any.
Plus I keep my phones VERY clean so I don't have a bunch of clutter with music, movies, and games. I probably have around 200 songs, 1 movie, and emulators for gaming so I won't come anywhere close to 8gb.
Wait till they discontinue the 8gb version and release the 32gb version. They have done it with the Nexus 7.
I predict 8gb version will only have around 6gb of actual storage space, in order word, it can't store nothing. Even if you don't need more space, buying the 8gb version will lose its value for resale in the future imo, especially if a 32gb version come along.
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I'm weak willed and can't hold out to wait for a possible 32GB version, so I'm going for the 16GB as soon as it's released. 16GB barely cuts it, but if I try hard enough I can fit all my data onto about 13GB. Hopefully the formatted space is at least that much :/
I have 12.27gb available on mine. But I only use about 5gb including 3 ROMs backed up and about a gig worth of mods, and about 150 pics/vids. I don't game much (leave that for tablets) and I stream through Spotify/G Music.
Originally, i thought 8gb wouldnt be enough but it actually would be OK for me.
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Does anyone what the breakdown of 'internal storage' versus 'phone storage' will be?
Internal storage being the space where apps can be installed.
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Does anyone what the breakdown of 'internal storage' versus 'phone storage' will be?
Internal storage being the space where apps can be installed.
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This won't be exactly the same but to give some idea...
I have a 16gb 1X and 12.27 available. 2.34 GB internal available and 9.93 gb available on sd
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If I remember correctly from using the Galaxy Nexus, since it doesn't have microSD, the entire space (16gb) will be available for apps installation. Though someone should confirm this.
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You can do what ever you want with all of the remaining space. Apps, storage, whatever.
After having a Nexus7 8gb i won't be making that mistake again any time soon.
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If I remember correctly from using the Galaxy Nexus, since it doesn't have microSD, the entire space (16gb) will be available for apps installation. Though someone should confirm this.
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True this less the space used for system apps. Since ics the storage has been just one big chunk unlike the previous gb and lower where there is a dedicated partition for system apps, usb storage, etc
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I have nexus 7 8gb version and have barely filled it and I use it daily.
I have my iPod for music and stream media within the house from computer or Netflix.
Also taking advantage of Google music's 20,000 cloud storage, think the music matching service is something that is very underated!!
All I will have on phone is a few tidbit games (angry birds etc) and any important photos and stuff.
8gb will be plenty imo.
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I have nexus 7 8gb version and have barely filled it and I use it daily.
I have my iPod for music and stream media within the house from computer or Netflix.
Also taking advantage of Google music's 20,000 cloud storage, think the music matching service is something that is very underated!!
All I will have on phone is a few tidbit games (angry birds etc) and any important photos and stuff.
8gb will be plenty imo.
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different with a phone IMO than a tablet.
I have a 32GB Xoom - I use 16GB if that - a large chunk is on photos/videos (around 6GB)
I have an Evo3D with a 32GB sdcard - I use 20GB of that. Again a large chunk is on photos/videos (around 7GB)
all my music is via Google Music
I worry that 16GB isn't going to be enough.
I wouldn't feel so bad if all the games available stored their save data in /sdcard/... rather than /data/data
Annoyingly it feels like you _have_ to root to get access to transfer or backup saved data.
e.g. angry birds, world of goo, sonic 4 ep 2 (oddly sonic 4 ep 1 saves on sdcard, but ep 2 doesn't)
I wish all developers of games would follow some guidelines on where to store the save files.
I can't decide. I don't use my phone for music or films and my HTC Desire doesn't have anywhere near 8GB being used. That said, for the price and the fact that it doesn't have an SD slot, I'm still tempted by the 16gb
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I can't decide. I don't use my phone for music or films and my HTC Desire doesn't have anywhere near 8GB being used. That said, for the price and the fact that it doesn't have an SD slot, I'm still tempted by the 16gb
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I will hands of buy even 4 GB version but with expandable storage if Google release it
Other wise it is 32 GB when it comes
32gb... or any gb with sd card...google hear us
I'm in for the 16. I keep a very clean phone, too, but I envision situations where I'd fill it up with a video (I've done this with previous phones at family holidays).
Definitely get 16G
on 16G Nexus 7 and GN I constantly run out of space and I am a clean guy - upload and delete all photos, videos, etc and still get Out of Space warning from the system. A few games you may decide to play and boom, each taking 1.5G-2G - your space is gone. I assume next year we will see games taking more and more so we will be hitting the limit with 16G even sooner.
BTW 16G devices show around 12G space total, so 4G must be taken by system apps or for swap space or something similar.
Even if you do not play any games today and use iPod for music - what if you decide to change that tomorrow, or store a few photos/videos. 8G will not last you enough and you will be longing for a new decide quickly, so that $50 savings on extra 8G may come to haunt you.
16GB, though I'd happily pay more for 32 or even 64.
I see everyone saying they'll get the 16GB and even complaining that's not enough for them. Here's the thing. I'm a pretty tidy person when it comes to memory. I only keep in my phone the music that I know I'll be listening, not my whole collection (1GB max). When I take photos, I either delete them whenever I go across them or if I want to keep them I send them to my dropbox. Same for videos. I'm that kind of person that if he sees his gallery is becoming big, will save the few photos and videos that are really important and delete the other 200 without heasisating. I might play one of these big hd games, but I'll install it, play it and uninstall it afterwards. Last but not least, when it comes to movies or series that I plan to see on my phone, I download them on the PC, transfer them to the phone and delete them as soon as I've seen them.
So, right now I'm using a galaxy S with an external 8gb micro sd. That's a total of 16GB, and I'm using 6GB after some time of not cleaning. Normally it's 4-5GB.
My logic is, if I get the 8GB model and use an external pendrive and usb OTG for the movies/series, wouldn't it be enough? 50€ is a big deal for me
You've talked yourself into it and, going from what you've said, I'd agree with you. I'm gonna get the 16GB version cause I can not because I need to
When 8GB prevents you from doing something you really want to do, that $50 won't be as big a deal then. But seriously, I think that the 16GB model will even have better resell when it comes time to upgrade as most people prefer the larger storage as evidenced by this forum. Everybody's needs and wants are different, but as for me, I'm not even hesistating, it's 16GB for me.
Here is my breakdown:
Sygic GPS - 4.5GB storage space (maps stored locally on the device)
Pictures - around 3GB
Nandroid backups - I have usually 1-2 on my phone which usually means 1-2GB
This usually results in about 3-4GB of storage space to play with for me....
See, I do backups but I don't store them on my phone (sounds a bit stupid if you ask me), and I always use the maps navigation for gps. The reselling argument seems like a good point though.
The thing you need to keep in mind is that that 8 or 16GB is your total storage for the device. the 8GB Nexus 7 has 5.92GB of free space with no apps installed (except the system ones that come with it, obviously). And, if I remember correctly, the Galaxy S has 1GB of application storage in addition. With the Nexus 4, every application you install, even if it doesn't have to download additional files to the "sdcard", will be eating into that 5.92GB of storage you have.
^This! Will definitely get 16gb!!
Use the cloud and Google music. If your using Tmo get unlimited data and you will be fine streaming on hspa 42
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I see everyone saying they'll get the 16GB and even complaining that's not enough for them. Here's the thing. I'm a pretty tidy person when it comes to memory. I only keep in my phone the music that I know I'll be listening, not my whole collection (1GB max). When I take photos, I either delete them whenever I go across them or if I want to keep them I send them to my dropbox. Same for videos. I'm that kind of person that if he sees his gallery is becoming big, will save the few photos and videos that are really important and delete the other 200 without heasisating. I might play one of these big hd games, but I'll install it, play it and uninstall it afterwards. Last but not least, when it comes to movies or series that I plan to see on my phone, I download them on the PC, transfer them to the phone and delete them as soon as I've seen them.
So, right now I'm using a galaxy S with an external 8gb micro sd. That's a total of 16GB, and I'm using 6GB after some time of not cleaning. Normally it's 4-5GB.
My logic is, if I get the 8GB model and use an external pendrive and usb OTG for the movies/series, wouldn't it be enough? 50€ is a big deal for me
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Buy 8 GB version
And I was thinking that if I do not get memory sometimes can get a USB OTG and resolve. Rather than give so much money, better give one dollar for such a cable.
And who knows? Usually use the most how much memory you have. Those who will buy the 16 GB version I bet from her to him and USB OTG.
So there's no point to invest so for 8 GB.
Now Nexus 7 16GB is $ 200 .. perfect for everyone!
If you want more put something nice to sit wi-fi, 3G and 32 GB!
This about the real space available being around 5.7GB bugs me really hard now. Thinking that the amazing new phone I'm gonna get has less space than I'm using at this very moment doesn't sound right. Guess I'll go for the 16GB. Better regret something I did than something I didn't do.
I also think I can manage 8gb (not even coming close to using it up on my current phone, thouh lately I havent been using it that much as a smart phone), but I think I will get the 16gb. One of the main reason why is that I plan on having the phone for a while. I think this is a significant point, since while I'd currently be able to manage with the 6gb (don't count on more than 8) my usage might change (ex. I mihgt have some heavy games installed), and I'd probably want to have at least a gb free (so that'd leave 5 gb) for just in case situations, ex for making a nandroid, or shooting a 30-second-turned-15-minute HD video, or to try out a new very big game, or to download a new distro I want to try out and dd it to a usb (via otg,ofc) using my phone because I'm feeling lazy and dont want to get up and the usb and cable were right next to me (I am joking, but I have done this, though, on a tablet but similar situation).
This brings me to something else that might pop up in the future and that could use up space (though, if it does come, it may be possible to put it onto a usb, or they may immediately ship the software in a dock, psst, don't tell canonical, I want to profit of off this idea ); ubuntu for android (or something similar). Seeing as how canonical ported/is porting (native) ubuntu to the nexus 7 I think there is a chance they might port ubuntu for android to the nexus 4, especially if it sells a lot, which we all know it will. Oh, yeah. Don't mix up Ubuntu on the nexus 7 (if you already heard about it, or google it) with ubuntu for android (the former replaces android, the latter supplements it). While I'm not a fan of Ubuntu, and I probably wouldn't use it that much, the geeky coolness of it would definitely overrule the practical usage of space but thats just me, you might find it useful, or not have it at all.
just buy the 8gb version, that 299 price tag looks damn sexy
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Today I did an excercise with my LG G2x to see if 8Gb will be enough:
Here is my current setup:
1) Internal storage: 1.48GB (788 MB used, it has OS and sys apps)
2) Internal SD card: 5.22GB (4GB used)
3) SDCard: 32GB (12GB used)
The goal of this experiment was to see if I can do without 32GB sd card as I will have about the same storage space as 8gb N4.
1.48 + 5.22 = 6.7Gb
And N4 has 7.45GB (Not 8GB, as 8GB is in decimal system which equates to 7.45GB)
8,000,000,000 / (1024 x 1024 x 1024) = 7.45Gb
Anyways, assuming N4 will be left with 5.92GB after OS and System apps (people from N7 8Gb have this much available).
I deleted all possible crap from the Internal SD card (#2) but the "Android" folder was huge, over a gb. Plus there were tons of other folders created by apps equating to 600 mb.
Mind you I dont have much useful stuff in my 32gb sd card. So I moved my camera pictures and music to Internal SD card and moved backups to 32gb SD card.
So now I could barely fit everything in my Internal SDcard: its 5.11GB full. With no crap: Only has Music, camera taken pics and 700mb of videos and ofcourse "data" from android and app data.
So if I add 788MB from the Internal storage (from #1) which has OS I will be at 5.8 GB
That leaves me with 100 mb in my brand new N4 for taking what 50 pics? Maybe? Or 25 Photosphers?
For those interested: I am running clean lean CM7 with 32 apps, 2 of which are games.
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See, I do backups but I don't store them on my phone (sounds a bit stupid if you ask me), and I always use the maps navigation for gps. The reselling argument seems like a good point though.
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Lucky guy to be in an area that lets you use maps over the air. I could not manage on google alone, and use Sygic.
Hello guys.
Is the a difference bettween Nexus 4 with 8 Gb and Nexus 4 With 16Gb?
I want to buy it but I can't aford the 16 Gb.
Thanks in advance.
Only difference is storage.
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Coming from a 16GB Galaxy SIII (which also had a 16GB SD Card in it) I thought there was no way I could buy the 8GB Nexus 4, so I opted for the 16GB.
The 16GB version comes with 12.92GB of available storage due to space taken by the operating system.
Funniest part is, I currently have 11.74GB available.
I could have easily went with the 8GB version. I used to store all my music and photos on my phone, but now that I have integrated into the cloud (Google+ automatically uploads my photos as I take them with my camera and I uploaded every album/song I own to my Google Music account) I find that storing media is completely unnecessary for me.
This may not be a good solution for those who do not have unlimited data or are constantly in areas with no data connection, but for me it's perfect.
just storage size but dont get 8gb if you're going to put ANY music on your phone. 16gb user here and it's still annoying...
Of course it depends on your storage preference. So look at your phone that you have now, what do you keep stored on your phone?
I wasn't sure and bought the 16GB before, but I only use a couple of GB's so most of my storage is empty....
I bought the 16GB nexus thinking there's no way 8 will be enough for me. But i don't think I've ever went over 6GB of storage. I only keep a few songs that I really like (30ish), and 2 or 3 big 3D games. I delete whatever I don't need immediately, like old rom zip, etc.
Guess I'm too organized to take advantage of the extra storage.
I have the 8gb and its plenty if space. So long as u don't save a bunch nandroid backups they take up alOt of space. I use dropbox ALOT now and just store what music I want at any given time on my device. Like maybe 2 GB of music. Also I don't store multiple ROMs no more than 2 at a time anymore. I didn't think I could live with 8gb but I still have almost 2gb left lol.
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Thanks for the answers guys!
i think i go for 8 GB Nexus.
Thanks alot!!
I bought the 16 GB version just to be sure I wouldn't go out of space, but I still have 8,82 GB free without storing any music or movies on the phone, just the photos taken with te camera and lot of apps (about 3 GB due to heavy games).
I think could have bought the 8 GB version, but I'm happy with my decision.
what are you guys getting? I ve pre-ordered for the 16gb but thinking to maybe switch to 32gb, for I ve heard 32gb is noticeably faster cuz of bigger storage Idk if that is true... This is my first time using android tablet, ditching ipad finally. I know there is an extended sd card option but still would you buy 32 gb for $50 more?
32gb... Some of these games coming out are over 1gb each, and some are approaching 2gb. I like to have things installed and not have to do the install/uninstall shuffle. Plus to have space for other things. All Media and storage go on the 64gb micro sd card though.
I pre-ordered a 16GB black from Best Buy, then changed my mind to a 32 GB white.
Best to have too much than too little.
They kind of want you to buy the 32gb version since the 16gb version is only 50 bucks less. That being said, I think it matters less on a tablet than on a phone because I always root my tablets. There's less downside from voiding warranty because my tablet is always safe and secure in it's case inside my bag while I'm on the run whereas my phone can be accidentally dropped at any time. That's just me though.
The faster speed from having a larger internal sd card is of somewhat miniscule benefit. For something like a 128gb and 256gb ssd, the improvement will be mildly noticeable but not so much on a tiny sd card. Get the one that fits your needs.
I really want a black one because I prefer understatement (don't want to get robbed too). So if I get a 32gb version, it will be because the 16gb version is only available in white in the states right now.
I got the black 32GB from Best Buy always nice to have extra, also have a 64GB sd card for it.
changed to 32 gb...lol
I was on the fence about getting which one to get too. I decided to get the 16gb because of the Amazon $50 gift card promotion. I don't game alot, so the huge app sizes are not as much as an issue for me. I will put in a 64gb sd card for videos and pictures.
i never game as much as i think i'm going to and always have tons of space left over, lol. i bought just about every emulator and a bunch of games, most of which i've never played or never installed.
i did preorder the 32GB for two reasons - 1: if i want black and by the 11th there's only one choice
2: i swear i'm gonna start playing those games i bought, lol
i also bought another 64GB sd for media. i got a 64 in my ativ 500t and 700t but only a 32 in my gn8. the only reason my phones have 32gb is b/c tw roms are crazy huge compared to AOSP and nandroids are taking 4GB a piece! otherwise 16GB would have been enough.
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i never game as much as i think i'm going to and always have tons of space left over, lol. i bought just about every emulator and a bunch of games, most of which i've never played or never installed.
i did preorder the 32GB for two reasons - 1: if i want black and by the 11th there's only one choice
2: i swear i'm gonna start playing those games i bought, lol
i also bought another 64GB sd for media. i got a 64 in my ativ 500t and 700t but only a 32 in my gn8. the only reason my phones have 32gb is b/c tw roms are crazy huge compared to AOSP and nandroids are taking 4GB a piece! otherwise 16GB would have been enough.
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I feel you about the size of the tw roms. Hopefully, there will be root and a streamlined tw rom to help out a bit with that.
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The faster speed from having a larger internal sd card is of somewhat miniscule benefit. For something like a 128gb and 256gb ssd, the improvement will be mildly noticeable but not so much on a tiny sd card. Get the one that fits your needs.
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For SSDs why is there any benefit to speed based on size at all? I assumed the OP was just confusing RAM with storage.
For magnetic HDDs, bigger is faster for the same amount of data because on a bigger drive more of that data can be stored towards the edge. The edge of the platter moves quicker, so you get faster R/W times.
Why would different size SSDs have different speeds?
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For SSDs why is there any benefit to speed based on size at all? I assumed the OP was just confusing RAM with storage.
For magnetic HDDs, bigger is faster for the same amount of data because on a bigger drive more of that data can be stored towards the edge. The edge of the platter moves quicker, so you get faster R/W times.
Why would different size SSDs have different speeds?
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You get faster speeds on larger SSD drives because of the way the controller works. There are more cells working in parallel which increases speed. Each individual bit of information acts rather slowly in emmc and is pretty consistent across devices as long as the type of Nand is the same. It's the controller which makes the difference in speed and the controller is better when it has more parallel units working in tandem. So in the SSD world, bigger is better.
32g enough for video games
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Self explanatory title (note I'm asking "sufficient", not "enough")
How are you guys finding the onboard storage situation w/ your 32GB models? I'm unclear how much use the SDcard would be. Sure, you can point your camera + Spotify cache to the SDcard instead but just looking at my iphone 6, I would still have need another 17-18GB to cover other apps and their data (this is w/o a silly amount of games). I know you can move some apps from onboard storage to your SDcard, how do you find the performance difference?
A bit bummed over SG's seemingly shortsighted decision to limit most global markets to the 32GB variant. From what I've seen online and with a few demo units, actual free usable storage comes in around 14-16GB, which is fairly pitiful. If Android "only" uses 8GB, where's the extra? Is TW and other add in that large?
I ordered a microsd card with high read/write speed. And the phone is pushing pretty near the card's theoretical limit. Benchmark have it at around 94MB/S read, and 47MB/S write, with a theoretical limit of 97 read 57 write on the card.
Key here is not to order a microsd card with extremely slow write, some of the popular sandisk models out there have 80 read, but only around 16-18 write, and that can be painful sometimes.
Is microsd slower than the new generation samsung internal storage? Yes, because the new samsung internal storage is reading at around 300MB/S. However, if you came from any phone that's not a samsung S6, S6 edge, or note 5, the microsd card read/write speed is probably similar enough to what you are used to as your old device's internal storage speed, and I honestly can't tell the difference since most apps stay loaded in the RAM anyways. I'm also surprised to find that I can move most of my installed apps to my microsd, the only one I have issue with right now is Grand Theft Auto Sand Andreas which is taking up over 2.2GB of internal space.
I had a note 5 before this, and with the 32GB internal on that, I was only left with around 2GB free. Right now I'm at 15GB free on the S7E with the exact same amount of photo/music/apps installed, granted I might have a smaller cache as of now but you get the idea.
To be honest, it's borderline for me. I'm 13.4gb free. I'm OCD about being anywhere below 10gb free. 64gb or enabling adoptable storage would have been better.
With the Gear VR ........ The Oculus app and the apps within Oculus can't be moved to the external SD storage. No option. And if you load any 360, 3D, or regular videos, they must be placed on internal storage for the app to locate them. I keep my 360 VR videos on my SD card, then from the file manager I copy what I want into the phone's storage, then delete the copies after I'm done using the Gear VR. Repeat and Rinse.
Not all games transfer data properly. I don't know if it's a Marshmallow, TouchWiz, or Developer Issue. Basically Need For Speed games (Most Wanted & No Limits) and Asphalt 8 Airborne are the ones I had problems with. It would allow the option to move to external storage and would state that it moved all the data too. But it didn't. It creates a replica data folder on the external storage, but without any data in it. The original folder on the internal storage is still there with all the data. I tried many things like moving the data manually to the correct folder, and deleting the original, but the games just ask to download data again which appears back in the internal storage. Those are the only games I tried to move so far, and I'm thinking maybe the games that download extra data after initially starting up are the issue. I doubt any issue would arise from smaller games like Minion Rush or Subway Surfers, but those are the games you don't need to move.
EDIT: So I found out the Milk VR app can see video on my SD Card. So far it's the only app in the Gear VR that seems to do so.
Yes. 32gb is extremely sufficient. Especially when you have SD card support.
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not sure why this topic always comes up and people are asking other people if they have enough space, it depends on your usage, not of others i'm coming from a nexus 5 with 16GB (~12GB usable) without sdcard option that i've used for the past 2,5 years and it was enough for me. although i must admit that i had to shuffle things around sometimes (e.g. move older pictures to my NAS), hence looking forward to the 32GB
im1knight said:
I ordered a microsd card with high read/write speed. And the phone is pushing pretty near the card's theoretical limit. Benchmark have it at around 94MB/S read, and 47MB/S write, with a theoretical limit of 97 read 57 write on the card.
Key here is not to order a microsd card with extremely slow write, some of the popular sandisk models out there have 80 read, but only around 16-18 write, and that can be painful sometimes.
Is microsd slower than the new generation samsung internal storage? Yes, because the new samsung internal storage is reading at around 300MB/S. However, if you came from any phone that's not a samsung S6, S6 edge, or note 5, the microsd card read/write speed is probably similar enough to what you are used to as your old device's internal storage speed, and I honestly can't tell the difference since most apps stay loaded in the RAM anyways. I'm also surprised to find that I can move most of my installed apps to my microsd, the only one I have issue with right now is Grand Theft Auto Sand Andreas which is taking up over 2.2GB of internal space.
I had a note 5 before this, and with the 32GB internal on that, I was only left with around 2GB free. Right now I'm at 15GB free on the S7E with the exact same amount of photo/music/apps installed, granted I might have a smaller cache as of now but you get the idea.
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what SDcard are you using?
Quite pleased it has come up not being able to use gear vr with the SD card is very bad
ngmic said:
what SDcard are you using?
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PNY turbo, 64GB