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Google Shipped me a previously opened box, should I send it back?

Hi,
I just got my Nexus 7 and upon opening the box, I noticed that someone had retaped the box over the old black tape, using the black tape.
So it has to have been someone at Google that opened the box and then resealed it.
I want to send it back. I'm the kind of person when purchasing new products, I don't like bait and switch products. I don't know if this was a Nexus 7 that was sent back in for repair or whatever the reason.
I don't seem to find any phone to contact Google to get an RMA to send the unit back for a refund.
I can't believe this happened. How could Google do this?
Thank you for any opinions or phone number to contact Google.
Rob

rlanza1054 said:
Hi,
I just got my Nexus 7 and upon opening the box, I noticed that someone had retaped the box over the old black tape, using the black tape.
So it has to have been someone at Google that opened the box and then resealed it.
I want to send it back. I'm the kind of person when purchasing new products, I don't like bait and switch products. I don't know if this was a Nexus 7 that was sent back in for repair or whatever the reason.
I don't seem to find any phone to contact Google to get an RMA to send the unit back for a refund.
I can't believe this happened. How could Google do this?
Thank you for any opinions or phone number to contact Google.
Rob
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if there is nothing wrong with it hardware and software wise don't because you risk getting a faulty "new" model. if you do notice any problems, send it back

awtz, i think everybody got the same doubled tape as mine too when i received it this morning i notice that too.. just a hassle to send it back to Google after the long wait.. works perfectly anyways
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I wouldn't worry too much about it if it's defect free. It's practically impossible that someone could have bought it, received it, returned it, and Google reselling it in a span of a couple of days.

It probably had a last minute firmware update and they opened and reboxed it.

stretched said:
It probably had a last minute firmware update and they opened and reboxed it.
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Maybe Google is checking for defects now before shipping.

just lou said:
Maybe Google is checking for defects now before shipping.
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Yeah I was thinking the same thing, maybe yours was from a batch suspected to be faulty so they opened them to check??

what's freakin me out is when i turn it on and set it up, it already know my email address and my name, it was like already programmed for me to use or what.. is it the same to those who preordered at gamestop or just those who bought it at Google play
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lyrad12 said:
what's freakin me out is when i turn it on and set it up, it already know my email address and my name, it was like already programmed for me to use or what.. is it the same to those who preordered at gamestop or just those who bought it at Google play
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If you ordered from GP, I know there was an option to have the device linked to your Google account. It was a check box on checkout. ...Or something like that.

just lou said:
If you ordered from GP, I know there was an option to have the device linked to your Google account. It was a check box on checkout. ...Or something like that.
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oh, probably, i didn't notice that option when i purchased it from Google play store..
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lyrad12 said:
what's freakin me out is when i turn it on and set it up, it already know my email address and my name, it was like already programmed for me to use or what.. is it the same to those who preordered at gamestop or just those who bought it at Google play
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Just to make sure: it didn't know your password, did it?

lyrad12 said:
oh, probably, i didn't notice that option when i purchased it from Google play store..
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Wow was there really an option for that when pre-ordering it? I actually did the pre-order from my web browser on my Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch.
If that was the case, then would that be reflected in the order statement.
But don't you think that Google should have put some sticker on the box for why it was opened before! That would stop any confusion over this. Maybe customs opened it? I just want to know the reason and then I maybe if I am satisfied, I will open the box and enjoy it, until then, I won't open it.
Thanks for the info, I will check my order for that pre-setup as you mentioned.
Rob
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Here is what I found on the order page (they don't do this by opening the box)!
Linking your Nexus 7 to your Google account during purchasing
When purchasing a Nexus 7 from Google Play, you'll notice a 'Link this device to my Google account' checkbox appear in your cart just prior to checkout. When you link a Nexus 7 to your Google account, we'll automatically send your name and username to the device when you first power it on. You'll just need to input your Google account password to get started.
So they do this by linking the serial number, not opening the box and manually entering your gmail account, which they can't because they don't have access to my password!
Now what is the reason they opened the box, since I've ruled out setting up the unit before shipping!

rlanza1054 said:
Wow was there really an option for that when pre-ordering it? I actually did the pre-order from my web browser on my Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch.
If that was the case, then would that be reflected in the order statement.
But don't you think that Google should have put some sticker on the box for why it was opened before! That would stop any confusion over this. Maybe customs opened it? I just want to know the reason and then I maybe if I am satisfied, I will open the box and enjoy it, until then, I won't open it.
Thanks for the info, I will check my order for that pre-setup as you mentioned.
Rob
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Here is what I found on the order page (they don't do this by opening the box)!
Linking your Nexus 7 to your Google account during purchasing
When purchasing a Nexus 7 from Google Play, you'll notice a 'Link this device to my Google account' checkbox appear in your cart just prior to checkout. When you link a Nexus 7 to your Google account, we'll automatically send your name and username to the device when you first power it on. You'll just need to input your Google account password to get started.
So they do this by linking the serial number, not opening the box and manually entering your gmail account, which they can't because they don't have access to my password!
Now what is the reason they opened the box, since I've ruled out setting up the unit before shipping!
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Google opens the nexus 7 orders from the play store and adds the account you bought it with for your convenience. When I opened mine, I couldn't even figure out how they connected since the plastic was all on the tablet just like when I bought my transfrmer prime, perfectly intact. Whatever the case, I'm sure they take great precautions not to harm it and mine arrived pristine.

thatguych4rlie said:
Google opens the nexus 7 orders from the play store and adds the account you bought it with for your convenience. When I opened mine, I couldn't even figure out how they connected since the plastic was all on the tablet just like when I bought my transfrmer prime, perfectly intact. Whatever the case, I'm sure they take great precautions not to harm it and mine arrived pristine.
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I hope if that's the case, if the device has any obvious defects, they notice them and don't send it out anyway.

I have the same thing with the a cut tape and another one taped on top like the OP too. The immediate thought was "...man someone opened mine," then seeing how there's so many defects I'm glad google opened mine. btw I did check the option linking to the account. Now that i think about it I hope that they opened everybox and check (more QA steps and less hassle returning).

Mine still hasn't arrived. I'm praying it's because someone opened it, realized it was defective, and switched it out for a better one. As long as my password isn't already typed in, I don't mind that it was opened and set up for me. Especially if that means someone has already done a check for defects. At any rate, I plan on taking pictures of the box before opening it, just in case. By the way, OP, did you notice any thing defective?

For all those users that think I am overeacthing.
Google should have placed a sticker on the outside of the box notifying the customer that is was opened for 'x' reason or reasons.
That would alleviate these issues.
All I want from Google is the reason.
There site said that they preload it by using the serial number? They don't state in that explanation that they need to open the box.
As soon as I am able to get in touch with them, I will get there reason and either accept it or request to send it back for refund.
I just wanted know how many other people noticed this?
Rob

rlanza1054 said:
For all those users that think I am overeacthing.
Google should have placed a sticker on the outside of the box notifying the customer that is was opened for 'x' reason or reasons.
That would alleviate these issues.
All I want from Google is the reason.
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Mine also had the double tape. Also, I can't imagine how someone could have returned one in time for it to be shipped to you.

lyrad12 said:
what's freakin me out is when i turn it on and set it up, it already know my email address and my name, it was like already programmed for me to use or what.. is it the same to those who preordered at gamestop or just those who bought it at Google play
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Lol. Read through those questions at checkout.
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I got mine from Sam's club. It also has two layers of tape like it had been previously opened. No biggie.
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Anyone know of a very good bank account monitoring software?

I just came to nexus 7 from iPad 1. Had this great app called 'accounts'. Was wondering if anyone knew of a similar app for android.
What it basically does is allow you to enter you daily transactions. It then organizes them automatically with its great budget and forecast features. It also backs up automatically to dropbox
Here's a link of that app:
http://grahamhaley.co.uk/accounts/
Thanks in advance.
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Here is a really good one that is free. May or may not be what your looking for but is a start. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.netgate&feature=search_result
fopoku2k2 said:
I just came to nexus 7 from iPad 1. Had this great app called 'accounts'. Was wondering if anyone knew of a similar app for android.
What it basically does is allow you to enter you daily transactions. It then organizes them automatically with its great budget and forecast features. It also backs up automatically to dropbox
Here's a link of that app:
http://grahamhaley.co.uk/accounts/
Thanks in advance.
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I used this one a while ago, it sounds like this would meet your requirements:
My Money by N.AMRI

Without any doubt the one I use on all of my devices is EasyMoney.
Works well on both phones and tablets.
There are a number of reasons I prefer this over any of the others but one feature in particular is the 'Bill Reminder' at the foot of the main page which takes you to a date formed 'Upcoming Bills'.
This shows all future bills for the next 3 months.
You can get a 30 day trial here.

I use expense manager.
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Uh, how about Mint? The most popular bank account program for Android.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mint&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd

zmattmanz said:
Uh, how about Mint? The most popular bank account program for Android.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mint&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
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Mint is okay unless you bank with US Bank or, presumably, any bank that asks security questions periodically as well as remembers the "computer" accessing the account. Mint and US Banks can't seem to get this **** figured out, so therefore Mint is useless with those accounts.
It also categorized credit card transactions very wrong. My Apple Valley Liquor Store purchases (yeah, I like a beer once in a while) it categorized them as "technology purchases" or whatever...I freaked thinking my iTunes account was hacked since it looked like "Apple" to Mint and it truncated the rest of the business name. So, it isn't perfect by any means. Pretty much any Apple Valley anything (in my case) gets marked wrong. It might not affect everyone though.
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I use Mint to keep track of all my charge card purchases. It is great for that. Never wanted to hook it to a bank account.
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[Q] I can't use Google wallet if I am rooted?

This is my first time having an NFC device, so please bear with me. I rooted my phone the evening I received it. Now I'm trying to set up Google Wallet, and it says that my device is unsupported. In the help topic regarding this message, it mentions something about rooted devices being unsupported due to security reasons, can I still use this feature? Is it discouraged in any way?
If anybody has some insight or experience with this, I'd like to know.

I have the evo lte rooted with same unsupported device message, yes it will still work
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llblwskydrgn said:
This is my first time having an NFC device, so please bear with me. I rooted my phone the evening I received it. Now I'm trying to set up Google Wallet, and it says that my device is unsupported. In the help topic regarding this message, it mentions something about rooted devices being unsupported due to security reasons, can I still use this feature? Is it discouraged in any way?
If anybody has some insight or experience with this, I'd like to know.
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The reason it is discouraged is because anyone (with the now-how) can brute-force access your pin if your phone is rooted. And then skip away making payments on goodies.

What would be the chances of someone getting that close to you, they would have to be pretty much hugging you
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josh030181 said:
What would be the chances of someone getting that close to you, they would have to be pretty much hugging you
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oh hey josh nice phone come here a sec *hugs* now stay like this for about 5 minutes kthx.

Well seems about as secure as having somebody run off with your actual wallet... So off-topic but where are the places where I can actually use Google Wallet >_>

llblwskydrgn said:
Well seems about as secure as having somebody run off with your actual wallet... So off-topic but where are the places where I can actually use Google Wallet >_>
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Any place that has tap-to-pay or pay-pass features (forgot what the actual name is). I've seen it at McDonald's, CVS/Walgreens, Best Buy, and a few other large chains around town.

llblwskydrgn said:
Well seems about as secure as having somebody run off with your actual wallet... So off-topic but where are the places where I can actually use Google Wallet >_>
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Plenty of you fly to Japan and China, they have been using it for years. You can try looking up PayPass mechant, such as this link: http://www.google.com/wallet/how-it-works/in-store.html

So it doesn't have to be specifically for google wallet? They work on the things like the speedpass at speedway or your creditcard where you just tap it to the machine and it gets your infO?

eksasol said:
Plenty of you fly to Japan and China, they have been using it for years. You can try looking up PayPass mechant, such as this link: http://www.google.com/wallet/how-it-works/in-store.html
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Awesome! Looking forward to trying this out in the next few weeks. Hope I remember to try it when I see it...

I tried to use this at Walgreens today. They had the translucent blue PayPass terminal. I sat there for about 30 seconds and nothing happened. I even tried to enter the app and still nothing. NFC was on, and my card is attached in Google Wallet.
I think I set up wallet, then unlocked and rooted, then had to re-set up Wallet. Am I doing something wrong? The clerk was staring at me like I was crazy, just holding my phone next to the terminal....

eksasol said:
Plenty of you fly to Japan and China, they have been using it for years. You can try looking up PayPass mechant, such as this link: http://www.google.com/wallet/how-it-works/in-store.html
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I've been living in China all my life. What are your taking about?
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coalesce said:
I tried to use this at Walgreens today. They had the translucent blue PayPass terminal. I sat there for about 30 seconds and nothing happened. I even tried to enter the app and still nothing. NFC was on, and my card is attached in Google Wallet.
I think I set up wallet, then unlocked and rooted, then had to re-set up Wallet. Am I doing something wrong? The clerk was staring at me like I was crazy, just holding my phone next to the terminal....
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I had that happen at Taco Bueno. And a McDonalds. But at some McDonalds it works. I think that so few people use this system that when its broken no one complains. And its probably never even tested when they set it up.
Typically you can just tap your phone to the thing (no need to be in the app). It'll prompt you for a PIN. Then you can pay.
If it's not working you may have a poor data connection? I think it requires data to work.
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Can't upload photospheres either if you're rooted

ackliph said:
I had that happen at Taco Bueno. And a McDonalds. But at some McDonalds it works. I think that so few people use this system that when its broken no one complains. And its probably never even tested when they set it up.
Typically you can just tap your phone to the thing (no need to be in the app). It'll prompt you for a PIN. Then you can pay.
If it's not working you may have a poor data connection? I think it requires data to work.
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Ohhh that's what I love about my area, HSPA+ EVERYWHERE . I guess I'll try some other stores out...

llblwskydrgn said:
Well seems about as secure as having somebody run off with your actual wallet... So off-topic but where are the places where I can actually use Google Wallet >_>
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I'd still say it's more secure than that. Anyone can swipe a card and charge it as credit. Relatively few people would know how to brute force hack google wallet on a rooted device.

Everyone.
Google wallet does not require a data connection.
If its not working , I read on the wallet website to "hold it about an inch" from the terminal. Without placing it on the terminal. Try to see if that works.
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Yeah mine didn't work at the gas station the other day, though I didn't log out of Google Wallet before I flashed a rom and rooted recently so some say that it'll never work again after that because of the secure element getting locked or something like that. Hopefully that's not true.

I've flashed and reflashed a lot. All you need to do is delete the data, connect to high speed internet like WiFi, then open it up. Worked for me.
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Youtube purchases?

logged into youtube for the first time since using my Nexus 4, and it shows that i have 3 new purchases today. I have not made these purchases and can not find any charges on my credit card (that i use for online stuff) or my Wallet account. anyone else see this?
I know this is a stab in the dark, but worth a shot.

well, i found them, loks like my phone automatically snagged them in an update somewhere...
odd but free.
found in the play store order info screen along with some books and music...

Looks like they're doing what they did with the N7 I guess. N7 owners got transformers and some other junk like that for free.

I don't like the idea that the phone can do things like that without my permission. I mean if it can make purcases (that are free) what's to keep the same thing from happening for items that are not free?

donec said:
I don't like the idea that the phone can do things like that without my permission. I mean if it can make purcases (that are free) what's to keep the same thing from happening for items that are not free?
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Dude, they're just gifts from Google. Items that are automatically added to your account when you register a new Nexus device. The device didn't make any "purchases"--it didn't go out into the store and press buttons behind your back--these are just things that Google gifted into your account, and that's just how these gifts show up in your account, as so-called free "purchases" (they gotta show up somehow, right?).

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donec said:
I don't like the idea that the phone can do things like that without my permission. I mean if it can make purcases (that are free) what's to keep the same thing from happening for items that are not free?
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It won't be able to make purchases without your permission if you tighten your tin foil hat.

mlemonds said:
logged into youtube for the first time since using my Nexus 4, and it shows that i have 3 new purchases today. I have not made these purchases and can not find any charges on my credit card (that i use for online stuff) or my Wallet account. anyone else see this?
I know this is a stab in the dark, but worth a shot.
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How did you access your purchases on your nexus 4 in the youtube app ?

The way I did it was on the computer access the purchases then move those purchases to Favorites, then in the app, click on your profile then it should be there but only thing is that it says unsupported playback or something. What can I do to watch them on my phone?
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[Q] Google-free custom ROM?

I've always been a diehard google fanatic & evangelist, but some of the recent bad press has left me disillusioned with the company and eager to break off all possible ties. To that end, is there a custom ROM for the Nexus 7 that would allow me to uninstall all or most google products - and preferably block all traffic to google's servers?

filthyhandbag said:
I've always been a diehard google fanatic & evangelist, but some of the recent bad press has left me disillusioned with the company and eager to break off all possible ties. To that end, is there a custom ROM for the Nexus 7 that would allow me to uninstall all or most google products - and preferably block all traffic to google's servers?
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sure. just build it from scratch, from aosp. dont add anything google, no google apps, no market, no sync, none of googles services.. kinda odd getting a nexus device and not wanting googles services. what bad press btw?

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simms22 said:
sure. just build it from scratch, from aosp. dont add anything google, no google apps, no market, no sync, none of googles services.. kinda odd getting a nexus device and not wanting googles services. what bad press btw?
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I'm English and its tax arrangements (which were revealed after I bought the Nexus 7) disgust me.
Building from AOSP is too complex for a non-developer like me. Is there not a ROM that makes it possible to pare back google services to a minimum? If not, which ROM carries the fewest google services?

BrianXP7 said:
It's more straightforward to flash any ROM that suggests a Google Apps package, but without flashing it. I think rebuilding it from source sounds a little extreme. (Considering the long download times.)
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I'm confused. How would I flash a ROM without flashing it?

filthyhandbag said:
I'm English and its tax arrangements (which were revealed after I bought the Nexus 7) disgust me.
Building from AOSP is too complex for a non-developer like me. Is there not a ROM that makes it possible to pare back google services to a minimum? If not, which ROM carries the fewest google services?
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Get over yourself and get a grip on reality.
EVERY company, big and small, uses tax loopholes. I can't believe you're taking a moral stand and denying yourself full functionality of a device you have already paid for, you are the only loser in this scenario, Google don't lose anything.
If you don't want Google services then don't log in with your Google account, or any email account.
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nodstuff said:
Get over yourself and get a grip on reality.
EVERY company, big and small, uses tax loopholes. I can't believe you're taking a moral stand and denying yourself full functionality of a device you have already paid for, you are the only loser in this scenario, Google don't lose anything.
If you don't want Google services then don't log in with your Google account, or any email account.
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Are you mad? I briefly answered a simple question. Is there any particular reason for your itch to harangue me about a consumer decision? I'm well aware of how corporations operate. Are you ignorant of how consumption and markets work?

lol @ this thread.

jayochs said:
lol @ this thread.
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I should have known better than to give any background info. My question should have been:
"Is there any ROM with no or minimal google services?"

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It's more straightforward to flash any ROM that suggests a Google Apps package, but without flashing it. I think rebuilding it from source sounds a little extreme. (Considering the long download times.)
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filthyhandbag said:
I'm English and its tax arrangements (which were revealed after I bought the Nexus 7) disgust me.
Building from AOSP is too complex for a non-developer like me. Is there not a ROM that makes it possible to pare back google services to a minimum? If not, which ROM carries the fewest google services?
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what Brian is saying is that many roms have a separate flashable package of google apps. you can flash one of these roms(like rasbean jelly, or cm) and not flash the separate gapps(google apps package). then you can go into your file system, /system/app/, and remove more google services(some might be needed, so it would be a trial and error of what you can remove). the end results might be rather unusable as a mobile device.
but nodstuff was right, you would be the only loser in this scenario. if you dont want anything to do with google, you should sell your device and buy something else. you would be better off. after all, arent you the most important in this scenario?

simms22 said:
what Brian is saying is that many roms have a separate flashable package of google apps. you can flash one of these roms(like rasbean jelly, or cm) and not flash the separate gapps(google apps package). then you can go into your file system, /system/app/, and remove more google services(some might be needed, so it would be a trial and error of what you can remove). the end results might be rather unusable as a mobile device.
but nodstuff was right, you would be the only loser in this scenario. if you dont want anything to do with google, you should sell your device and buy something else. you would be better off. after all, arent you the most important in this scenario?
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I see it differently, while wanting to hang onto a device whose format and build I'm fond of. But as I've suggested, I've not come here to debate the issue - just to seek out a ROM that suits my needs.
Thanks for your clarification over the flashing process. I'll see how far I can get.

filthyhandbag said:
I see it differently, while wanting to hang onto a device whose format and build I'm fond of. But as I've suggested, I've not come here to debate the issue - just to seek out a ROM that suits my needs.
Thanks for your clarification over the flashing process. I'll see how far I can get.
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no problem with that, its your device
anyways, if you do delete something that youre not supposed to out of /sytem/app/ and your device wont work, you can always reflash the rom to get it up again. or you can make a backup in your recovery, then restore it if things go wrong.

Righteous. Right.
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Don't feed the trolls!
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AZKJS said:
Don't feed the trolls!
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Amen brother.....
.....I'm hungry.
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Wouldn't webOS do that when/if it's finally released?
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You could try the buggy Ubuntu that would be Google free but I just don't understand what Google could have done, to make you hinder your own device by choice
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rcarnes911 said:
You could try the buggy Ubuntu that would be Google free but I just don't understand what Google could have done, to make you hinder your own device by choice
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Exactly.
Bit if you dont want any google services just flash a custom rom (like cyanogenmod por something) and dont flash the gapps. Than you dont login with your google account and maybe delete or freeze the google services with titanium backup. This seems me the easiest way to do it.

JanJansen024 said:
Exactly.
Bit if you dont want any google services just flash a custom rom (like cyanogenmod por something) and dont flash the gapps. Than you dont login with your google account and maybe delete or freeze the google services with titanium backup. This seems me the easiest way to do it.
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Without playstore.....installing titanium backup or anything will be painful! Lol
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Return it and buy an ipad. Hopefully Apple is not as gross as Goggle on the tax issues you have recently learned about.

ProblemChyld said:
Return it and buy an ipad. Hopefully Apple is not as gross as Goggle on the tax issues you have recently learned about.
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Lol every company hides money off shore Google just had some one write an article about it
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