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How is the Evo 4G Shift compared to HTC Vision?

So, with the most upsetting news being released about ATT acquiring T-Mobile, I will be leaving T-Mobile and breaking my contract. I currently have the HTC Vision.
I am here to get your opinions. When I drop T-Mobile, I will be coming towards Sprint to pick up the Evo Shift. My questions are:
1) How is the phone functionality? Smooth? Fast? Random Reboots?
2) How is Sprint Coverage? Spotty? Constant 4G coverage?
3) How is Sprints customer service? Understanding or Strict?
4) Any hardware specific problems? Loose slide? Slide breaks easy?
I would appreciate your opinions. I like to hear it right from the horses mouth.

Well I don't know much about the Vision, so I'm no help there. But as far as how good the EVO Shift is, well it rocks. Was waiting for along time for an HTC Android phone with a real ( not onscreen ) qwerty keyboard. It was definately worth the wait. Phone is Super fast right out of the box. No issues with it at all. Plus it can be customized pretty much any way you want it. Thanks to all the great Dev's and peeps on XDA. I'm running the stock Rom and OC'd to 1.6gHz. Phone is ubber responsive. As far as Sprint's service, well I've been with them for about 6 yrs. Never had a problem with them. 4G not fully up and running in my area. But 3g is plenty fast. Hope this helps.
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I did some more searching around, and I saw a few posts saying that the Evo shift is basically the vision. That makes me happy, because I really really like my vision. It is completely one of my most favorite phones I have owned, and I have had alot of phones in the past.
After reviewing the reviews I saw, I am really ready to move towards sprint.
I was with nextel when sprint acquired them, but I was afraid to stay with sprint because of how they operated before the merger. However, I have been hearing alot of good things about sprint from word of mouth, and its steadily increasing my trust into sprint.
I am just so frustrated with T Mobile, I could choke the CEO. But, I guess this is a capitalist country and "if you can't beat them, buy them."
By the way, thank you for you input, really appreciate your time.

I got the evo shift.
1) How is the phone functionality? Smooth? Fast? Random Reboots?
Very fast! Only phone I've ever had that has literally NEVER rebooted on my or crashed. While stock this phone was fast. Now overclocked to 1.5ghz and it COOKS!
2) How is Sprint Coverage? Spotty? Constant 4G coverage?
Sprint has really good coverage in my area. 4G is usually only available in major cities as is pretty much every other company's 4G. I do however get pretty good 4G service in most places near where I live.
3) How is Sprints customer service? Understanding or Strict?
Any time i've dealed with them they were really cool. Ex: My girlfriend was texting her friend in North Korea and didn't know it cost extra. Called up customer service and they waived the charges. They were very understanding and it didn't take long at all. I also got an American when I called lol.
4) Any hardware specific problems? Loose slide? Slide breaks easy?
Only thing I don't particularly like about the Evo Shift is that the slide mechanism isn't spring loaded. Other than that this phone is flawless!

atquick said:
So, with the most upsetting news being released about ATT acquiring T-Mobile, I will be leaving T-Mobile and breaking my contract. I currently have the HTC Vision.
I am here to get your opinions. When I drop T-Mobile, I will be coming towards Sprint to pick up the Evo Shift. My questions are:
1) How is the phone functionality? Smooth? Fast? Random Reboots?
2) How is Sprint Coverage? Spotty? Constant 4G coverage?
3) How is Sprints customer service? Understanding or Strict?
4) Any hardware specific problems? Loose slide? Slide breaks easy?
I would appreciate your opinions. I like to hear it right from the horses mouth.
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1) The phone is functionally fine. I have yet to experience any wierd quirks and i've had it since the first official day of sale.
2) Coverage with any carrier always varies depending on where you live. I live in New York and my coverage is great. go to sprint.com and look at a coverage map for your area.
3) It depends on who you're talking to. I have had very annoying experiences when talking to foreign customer service reps... but have had good experiences when talking to others.
4) I personally can't stand the sliding mechanism. others seem to like it.

SHMaRiM said:
I got the evo shift.
1) How is the phone functionality? Smooth? Fast? Random Reboots?
Very fast! Only phone I've ever had that has literally NEVER rebooted on my or crashed. While stock this phone was fast. Now overclocked to 1.5ghz and it COOKS!
2) How is Sprint Coverage? Spotty? Constant 4G coverage?
Sprint has really good coverage in my area. 4G is usually only available in major cities as is pretty much every other company's 4G. I do however get pretty good 4G service in most places near where I live.
3) How is Sprints customer service? Understanding or Strict?
Any time i've dealed with them they were really cool. Ex: My girlfriend was texting her friend in North Korea and didn't know it cost extra. Called up customer service and they waived the charges. They were very understanding and it didn't take long at all. I also got an American when I called lol.
4) Any hardware specific problems? Loose slide? Slide breaks easy?
Only thing I don't particularly like about the Evo Shift is that the slide mechanism isn't spring loaded. Other than that this phone is flawless!
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Wonderful. Thank you for your input.
Personally, I had the Gravity by Samsung, and I'm not a huge fan of spring loaded slides. I guess I am very particular when it comes to my electronics, after so long the spring would actually damage the phone, but hey, to each its own.
Thats pretty cool that they waived the fees. I was having an issue with my Blackberry Curve with TMO, and I complained the first time and the person that was helping me was like well since your having issues with the phone, we'll go ahead and give you an addition 800 minutes to help counter-act the issues your having with your phone. Come to find out, the issues I was having were completely my fault. lol. But TMO was here use these minutes ontop of your plan already, and I had the 800 extra minutes for almost 6 months and ever saw a change in my bill.
I live in a major city, Columbus, Ohio. So, hopefully I wont see too many issues when it comes to 4g speeds.
Thanks, really instilling the faith into Sprint.

The shift is definately the best 4g android qwerty phone made by sprint ATM.

Man handcent messed my typing up then I had a goof up and made another post rather than editing I live in Columbus bro Polaris and season malls have great 4 g and on the south side it of Columbus it sucks
atquick said:
Wonderful. Thank you for your input.
Personally, I had the Gravity by Samsung, and I'm not a huge fan of spring loaded slides. I guess I am very particular when it comes to my electronics, after so long the spring would actually damage the phone, but hey, to each its own.
Thats pretty cool that they waived the fees. I was having an issue with my Blackberry Curve with TMO, and I complained the first time and the person that was helping me was like well since your having issues with the phone, we'll go ahead and give you an addition 800 minutes to help counter-act the issues your having with your phone. Come to find out, the issues I was having were completely my fault. lol. But TMO was here use these minutes ontop of your plan already, and I had the 800 extra minutes for almost 6 months and ever saw a change in my bill.
I live in a major city, Columbus, Ohio. So, hopefully I wont see too many issues when it comes to 4g speeds.
Thanks, really instilling the faith into Sprint.
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strapped365 said:
I live in Columbus bro Polaris and easton malls have great 4 g and on the south side of Columbus it sucks
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strapped365 said:
Man handcent messed my typing up then I had a goof up and made another post rather than editing I live in Columbus bro Polaris and season malls have great 4 g and on the south side it of Columbus it sucks
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I live 15 min from downtown out in Canal Winchester (SE Columbus), and 4G is strong.
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The 4G signal showed 1 bar until I took my phone out of landscape and then dropped to no bars....upload sucks
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The 4G signal showed 1 bar until I took my phone out of landscape and then dropped to no bars....upload sucks
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Well sir I've only broke 200 KBps on 3G twice so I wouldn't complain
I got 7.3 mbps in Memphis on Wimax, right in Harbortown. Wish I kept the screenshot. Ill take a few next time I'm there.
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Edit: I read your past foolishly fast, I see now that your results were kbps and not KBps. I've attached pictures of what I average, for the hell of it
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Yeah I think I wanna bypass that I just never read into if there were any long term effects or problems
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Well sir I've only broke 200 KBps on 3G twice so I wouldn't complain
I got 7.3 mbps in Memphis on Wimax, right in Harbortown. Wish I kept the screenshot. Ill take a few next time I'm there.
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Edit: I read your past foolishly fast, I see now that your results were kbps and not KBps. I've attached pictures of what I average, for the hell of it
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I am in the exact same boat! I left AT&T (after they suspended my account without warning multiple times for using an unlocked beta dell streak) for T-Mobile, and had been very happy with them. But after the news of the acquisition, I was steaming mad.
I got myself the EVO shift after a few days of reading a bunch of reviews. I go through phones like candy (recent phones before the shift: G2 (2 of them), nokia n8, htc hd7, samsung vibrant, dell streak 5, att captivate, epic 4g (returned within the 30 day), att backflip, palm pre/pixi, bb storm2, etc, etc...). Anyways, the G2 was one of the rare phones I could keep. With CM7, it lasted me all day, it was easy to type on, my only complaint was the poor washed out display. I also loved the HSDPA+, I clocked an average of 2-3mbps down, and since it's still a 3G radio, I didn't see the fat powerdraw like you'd expect from the wimax/lte radios.
Anyways, I only got the evo shift yesterday, and I'm surprised at how remarkably similar it is to the G2. If you put them side by side, they are *very* similar phones, and the dimensions are 95% identical. Since both are on the same qualcomm MSM chipset, I'm guessing they use the same PCB and display connectors, with the evo shift having a 4G radio (while the G2 has a slightly different front panel with the z-hinge and optical pad).
The G2 felt great in the hand - like a heavy, solid german car with no give in the frame. But, also like an oafish pewter german sedan, I didn't think it had much aesthetic appeal. The evo looks great (though I don't dig the dark blue so much, I prefer black), and it feels good in the hand, though not quite as solid and expensive feeling as the G2. The soft touch back is very nice, though.
The keyboard wins on the shift, for me. It's very similarly spaced to the G2, and while the key height feels slightly lower than the G2's, it requires much less effort and provides quite a satisfying "click" (like a pixi's but without that bubble feel). The G2's required a bit more effort, and it slowed my typing down - I am flying on this shift!
My two worst complaints about the evo: the 4G usage is a bit weird, having to consciously balance and compromise between 3G and 4G. The 4G eats a lot of battery, and even more so if your area has spotty 4G. And once it disconnects, you have to manually scan it and reconnect it (unless there's a setting I'm missing somewhere?), so it's just something extra to think about. The other is that weird dark blue color - reminds me of an old dark blue sidekick LX I used to have, haha. Kind of cheapens it imo - if anybody knows of a way to dye it black, I am all ears.
Oh, I used to average 800kbs at home on TMobile's 3G (not HSDPA) on the G2. Sprint's 3G gets me about 400-600kbps here. Peak speeds of the 4G counterparts though - Tmo got me 3-5mbps on average, Sprint gets me about 6mbps average (though I get sprint 4G coverage far less than I did tmo's "4G").
I'm actually *very* happy with the evo shift. I would've been just as happy staying with my G2, but in light of the news, this is the next best thing, imo. Once 4G is deployed more, and CM7 gets a few more RCs under its belt, I have good faith that I'll be very happy with the phone.
Sorry for the novel. Hope it helps, at least

Sprint better buy clearwire out...not looking good

http://phandroid.com/2011/04/14/analyst-sprint-must-buy-clearwire-or-move-on-without-them/
I agree I've had a 4g device for almost a year now with 4g not even driving distance away...I have to travel about a little over an hour, maybe a little more, to get 4g in the city, they got to do something or have a backup plan...I don't think the kyoceras working...

I though it was Sprint's plan to move on without them? I read an article a couple weeks ago that a bunch of Sprint execs had resigned from Clearwire's board. This was just before they announced (or at least rumors began) of moving to LTE.

Doesn't surprise me that Verizon will have their 4g reaching more customers in 1 year than we have now.. I love Sprint, but, they are behind at&t/verizon for a reason.
I have had an EVO since launch and only used 4g on a brief trip out of town. It now looks like I will be upgrading to another phone without ever really using 4g on my EVO. That's sad.

I guess people thought VZW was lying when they said they'd have their entire 3G network covered with LTE by 2013.

Same here. On a trip to pa I used in pa in a certain spot for about 5 minutes
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Doesn't surprise me that Verizon will have their 4g reaching more customers in 1 year than we have now.. I love Sprint, but, they are behind at&t/verizon for a reason.
I have had an EVO since launch and only used 4g on a brief trip out of town. It now looks like I will be upgrading to another phone without ever really using 4g on my EVO. That's sad.
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its not that big of a deal
Clear has been having LTE tests in AZ and the wimax equipment as I understand it will be super easy to upgrade to LTE - then sprint releases the LTE devices and BOOM LTE is everywhere that WIMax Was..
http://www.clear.com/blog/size-matters/

sprint always tries to bring new tech first...
but always seem to fail in the follow through.

What spectrum was that phoenix testing done on? 2400mhz??
What speeds does Wimax have when there's only 1 user on it?
That video seems very promising considering how those speeds were faster than my Uverse.

slag02 said:
its not that big of a deal
Clear has been having LTE tests in AZ and the wimax equipment as I understand it will be super easy to upgrade to LTE - then sprint releases the LTE devices and BOOM LTE is everywhere that WIMax Was..
http://www.clear.com/blog/size-matters/
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That's part of the problem - there isn't much coverage and where there is coverage, quite frankly it sucks. I live in Houston and leave 4g off because the coverage is so spotty.

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http://phandroid.com/2011/04/14/analyst-sprint-must-buy-clearwire-or-move-on-without-them/
I agree I've had a 4g device for almost a year now with 4g not even driving distance away...I have to travel about a little over an hour, maybe a little more, to get 4g in the city, they got to do something or have a backup plan...I don't think the kyoceras working...
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What's up with you and the kyocera posts?
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Lol idk I just feel they had a good idea but it wasn't the right hardware to put out with it, you see my point, I will definitely give it a chance but my opinion is no as of right now, I'm just gonna have to wait

I would rather have the expanded backend like T-Mobile has, where a normal 3g phone will pull down 5mbps. 21 mbps down is nice but what would I need that bandwidth on a phone. Embedded in a laptop nice, used in the middle of the country where alot of.people don't even have internet access that would be amazing
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After Tmobiles new plan trotting after 2gb of use, I could care less about 4g as long as I'm not throttled. I could eat 2 gigs in a day if there's enough music to download.
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It is almost embarrassing how many people have not gotten to use their 4g on their Evo. I went to San Diego from Phoenix and I still wasn't even able to find any 4g connection. I've really enjoyed the rom experience with the Evo, but I was really looking forward to the 4g stuff.

Luckily bay area has 4g. It is amazing how just a few years ago dsl was screaming fast now my phone can blow it away.

I'll be another upgrading to an evo3d without ever really using 4g on my htc evo......4G!
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BrianDigital said:
I would rather have the expanded backend like T-Mobile has, where a normal 3g phone will pull down 5mbps. 21 mbps down is nice but what would I need that bandwidth on a phone. Embedded in a laptop nice, used in the middle of the country where alot of.people don't even have internet access that would be amazing
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I agree with this, in my area Sprint consistently pulls about 200-400 kbps down on 3G. A friend with VZW showed me his 3G speed test results - routinely around 1500-1700. If I had speeds like that, I wouldn't ever even want or need 4G.
I like Sprint, but man their 3G is very disappointing. During lunch hour on weekdays, I've seen it drop to nearly 50 kbps. It makes me yearn for the days of blazing fast dialup modems... :/

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I agree with this, in my area Sprint consistently pulls about 200-400 kbps down on 3G. A friend with VZW showed me his 3G speed test results - routinely around 1500-1700. If I had speeds like that, I wouldn't ever even want or need 4G.
I like Sprint, but man their 3G is very disappointing. During lunch hour on weekdays, I've seen it drop to nearly 50 kbps. It makes me yearn for the days of blazing fast dialup modems... :/
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This is what I used to say about T-Mobile where I live in Utah. I average what your friend is getting on Verizon with Sprint's 3G network here.
Speed test sitting at my desk at work right now (about my average 3G speeds, usually a little higher):
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And with a really weak 4G signal:
Further north 4G I can hit up to 6,000-7,000. Not that I ever use it.
EDIT: Interesting that the upload speeds were the same lol

ffolkes said:
I agree with this, in my area Sprint consistently pulls about 200-400 kbps down on 3G. A friend with VZW showed me his 3G speed test results - routinely around 1500-1700. If I had speeds like that, I wouldn't ever even want or need 4G.
I like Sprint, but man their 3G is very disappointing. During lunch hour on weekdays, I've seen it drop to nearly 50 kbps. It makes me yearn for the days of blazing fast dialup modems... :/
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Sprint in my area is fine. Holds around 1mpbs so not to bad. However Verizon in this area kinda sucks cause there is so many people on it. Two of my friends had to tether to me while tailgating just to get some.bets off
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They are saying they will have 4g in my area by the end of the year ... I will believe it when I see it lol

T-Mobile 4G speeds on G2

as we all probably went through, @ the beginning of launch of the G2, network speeds were terrible however I notice it has gotten much better (I get around 7-8mbps on average in the same area I use to get 1-2mbps when launched), what are your average 4G speeds now and how do you compare them with your initials speeds when the phone was launched?
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Mines the opposite, I used to get like 4-8 but now its in the low 1-3m. Idk might just be using it the wrong time
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ayeitschris said:
Mines the opposite, I used to get like 4-8 but now its in the low 1-3m. Idk might just be using it the wrong time
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Wow thats not good
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ayeitschris said:
Mines the opposite, I used to get like 4-8 but now its in the low 1-3m. Idk might just be using it the wrong time
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Mine is acting the same way. I was getting 5-7. Now I'm lucky to see 1-1.5.

Richard1510 said:
Mine is acting the same way. I was getting 5-7. Now I'm lucky to see 1-1.5.
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What state you guys live in?
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Have you efs wiped lately? Not sure where the superwipe and efs wipe topics went but I have them if anyone needs them.
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The best I've seen is 4.6 and that's a good 30 miles from my house.

It's evened out for me since launch. I would get like 480kbps at work and like 8mbps at home, and now I'm getting like 1.2mbps at work and around 6mbps at home. Elsewhere things have improved too, especially in the downtown Orlando area, where I easily pull 7mbps all the time, and more areas are getting to be like this too.

Gwanatu said:
It's evened out for me since launch. I would get like 480kbps at work and like 8mbps at home, and now I'm getting like 1.2mbps at work and around 6mbps at home. Elsewhere things have improved too, especially in the downtown Orlando area, where I easily pull 7mbps all the time, and more areas are getting to be like this too.
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Idk what's going on in FL but you really see them high numbers, the average speeds where I got 8-9 and it was in tampa
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My wife inherited my old 3G Vibrant, while i'm sporting my T-Mobile G2. It seems my wife and I are on the same 3G speeds. I'm wondering, since I'm not paying that extra $10/month for 4G, am I not getting REAL 4G???
I always thought since my phone supports 4G, i'll be getting 4G speeds. But, it's clear that i'm not..
I have a 'rooted' stock rom, waiting for the next Cyrogenmod stable release, so I can play my Netflix shows smoothly.

lawalty said:
My wife inherited my old 3G Vibrant, while i'm sporting my T-Mobile G2. It seems my wife and I are on the same 3G speeds. I'm wondering, since I'm not paying that extra $10/month for 4G, am I not getting REAL 4G???
I always thought since my phone supports 4G, i'll be getting 4G speeds. But, it's clear that i'm not..
I have a 'rooted' stock rom, waiting for the next Cyrogenmod stable release, so I can play my Netflix shows smoothly.
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no one on t-mobile pays extra for 4G.

lawalty said:
My wife inherited my old 3G Vibrant, while i'm sporting my T-Mobile G2. It seems my wife and I are on the same 3G speeds. I'm wondering, since I'm not paying that extra $10/month for 4G, am I not getting REAL 4G???
I always thought since my phone supports 4G, i'll be getting 4G speeds. But, it's clear that i'm not..
I have a 'rooted' stock rom, waiting for the next Cyrogenmod stable release, so I can play my Netflix shows smoothly.
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What are your speeds with the 3G sim card?
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androidfeen809 said:
What are your speeds with the 3G sim card?
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i don't know. I didn't know that there was a '3G sim card'. It was my Vibrant until i gave it to my wife. I've been with t-monglol (incorrect spelling is on purpose) for about 10 years, and it seems i've gotten a new sim card in the mail about 5 years ago. Maybe I need to have the official updated 4G sim card? I'll probably need to spend that additional $10/month for to get 4G speeds.
I guess to achieve the detailed stats on out download and upload speeds, i'll have to download an app to measure it. But, it just seems my wife and I are the sames speeds. When I download a rom (90mbs+) it takes the same time on both phones.

lawalty said:
i don't know. I didn't know that there was a '3G sim card'. It was my Vibrant until i gave it to my wife. I've been with t-monglol (incorrect spelling is on purpose) for about 10 years, and it seems i've gotten a new sim card in the mail about 5 years ago. Maybe I need to have the official updated 4G sim card? I'll probably need to spend that additional $10/month for to get 4G speeds.
I guess to achieve the detailed stats on out download and upload speeds, i'll have to download an app to measure it. But, it just seems my wife and I are the sames speeds. When I download a rom (90mbs+) it takes the same time on both phones.
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Yea go ahead and tell us what you get on. Speedtest.net app
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In Portland Oregon getting average 8 mbps, to the guy who's on the rooted stock rom.
I rooted and am using the latest nightly on CM7, something I had to do though was flash a new radio, before I could never get past 3G and was always at .5 - 1.5 mbps. Flashed the new radio and consistent 4G speeds, average 7.5 mbps.
EDIT: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Support_Downloads#HTC_Vision

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Have you efs wiped lately? Not sure where the superwipe and efs wipe topics went but I have them if anyone needs them.
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I thought this just helped with GPS or something? It effects data speeds as well?

aad4321 said:
what are running? i currently have 26.03.02.26 on CM7
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26.08.04.30

androidfeen809 said:
What state you guys live in?
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I live in Michigan.

Richard1510 said:
I live in Michigan.
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The closer you are to the cities, the better the signal is.
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Portland, OR here
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seems like my speeds are increasing slowly day by day....

LTE Speeds on AT&T

Check out these speeds on AT&T's LTE. What does Verizon have on that?
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I'm an AT&T customer and I will even say Verizon been had that beat.
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Good god that 4G LTE logo is ugly.
edit:for the record, I don't like verizon's either.

Come on. You mean to tell me that the Verizon "Data Card" bownloading at 50Mbps beats a phone downloading at 40Mbps. Look at the upload. Nowhere even close. NYC has DAS units all over. I'm not on NYC and you can't argue the upload. I can find a spot to show 50 if you want but I just did a random test and got these results. Just thought I'd share. Again. This is on a phone. Not a dedicated data card.
gasolara2002 said:
I'm an AT&T customer and I will even say Verizon been had that beat.
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Regardless of which is better or not, I'm glad at&t is finally rolling out LTE.
I don't expect you to be able to answer these questions, but is the device you're using coming out before the end of the year and do you know if at&t plans to offer unlimited LTE data for a short period like verizon did?

Question - why does anyone give a crap? What good is that 40 Mbps doing you. Nothing on the phone will ever make use of that. Even if you are tethering to a computer it isn't nearly as useful as those speeds would be on a home broadband connection due to the data caps. At 40 Mbps you would go through a full month's 4 GB tethering package data allotment in about 13 minutes! What a joke.

considering this is on a fairly loaded network that is running in well over 5 cities I'd say its pretty good :-D

Question - HOW DID YOU GET AN LTE PHONE ON AT&T?
Also, nice speeds, obviously Verizon's LTE is going to get much better speeds when they've had time to get enough backhaul to all the LTE towers, just give AT&T some time, just like the time Verizon has had.

wow
amazing speeds you get there, I don't even get close

Great question. We all would like to know that one
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Question - HOW DID YOU GET AN LTE PHONE ON AT&T?
Also, nice speeds, obviously Verizon's LTE is going to get much better speeds when they've had time to get enough backhaul to all the LTE towers, just give AT&T some time, just like the time Verizon has had.
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I can't tell you how I got the phone but rest assured they are coming. Once the backhaul gets updated across the board everyone will see better speeds even with the 4G (HSPA+) devices. I'm not 100% sure how the data plans are going to work but I'm sure they will be capped higher than 2Gb. They will have to be capped somewhere or else everyone will use bandwidth all the time taking it away from other users.
That's all I know for now.
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I can't tell you how I got the phone but rest assured they are coming. Once the backhaul gets updated across the board everyone will see better speeds even with the 4G (HSPA+) devices. I'm not 100% sure how the data plans are going to work but I'm sure they will be capped higher than 2Gb. They will have to be capped somewhere or else everyone will use bandwidth all the time taking it away from other users.
That's all I know for now.
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Alright, that's fine that you can't tell us, don't mind.
But just tell me, are we going to see LTE phones anytime soon, and if AT&T wants to speed up HSPA+ devices, they need to turn on 64QAM.
^relay that one to them for me.

VERY impressive but like verizon and sprint 4g once there's a lot of people on it the speeds drop.
But thing is all I see is a much faster way to get to the 2gb cap.
Verizon 4g is 2gb right?

donsh00tmesanta said:
VERY impressive but like verizon and sprint 4g once there's a lot of people on it the speeds drop.
But thing is all I see is a much faster way to get to the 2gb cap.
Verizon 4g is 2gb right?
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Lowest for Verizon is 2GB.
But the guy said they would raise the caps... I have unlimited data, so I hope I get that on LTE also...

Need I say more Mr Verizon sees 50 Mbps?
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Check out these speeds on AT&T's LTE. What does Verizon have on that?
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Holy crap, is that for real?
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VERY impressive but like verizon and sprint 4g once there's a lot of people on it the speeds drop.
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Agreed.
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I'm not saying that you will see a drop in speeds once everyone jumps on the bandwagon but what would you ever need speeds like that for anyway? Streaming movies? Hah. Maybe if your downloading one and don't want to wait or don't have wifi at home. Anyway, there are just a lot of new and exciting things happening with the AT&T network and the difference will or should already be seen by most of you now or in the near future.
Not only the network but the devices are getting better and better IMO (really unbiassed) I think AT&T has the better devices hands down.
For all those who asked. I can not say how I have an LTE device but they are sure to impress everyone once released.
Till next time.
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I'm not saying that you will see a drop in speeds once everyone jumps on the bandwagon but what would you ever need speeds like that for anyway? Streaming movies? Hah. Maybe if your downloading one and don't want to wait or don't have wifi at home. Anyway, there are just a lot of new and exciting things happening with the AT&T network and the difference will or should already be seen by most of you now or in the near future.
Not only the network but the devices are getting better and better IMO (really unbiassed) I think AT&T has the better devices hands down.
For all those who asked. I can not say how I have an LTE device but they are sure to impress everyone once released.
Till next time.
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Of course speeds will go down with traffic, we just don't know how much.
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SGH-i727 Galaxy Nexus II LTE? Wish the At&t/Tmo merger goes through and we get the Galaxy Nexus LTE version. I have two upgrades and want something new for Christmas. LOL.

I got signal!!!!!

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Pretty big difference between Sprint and WiFi, which is useless when I still cannot make or receive calls... Here's the bottom line people. Read the Sprint forums and listen to iPhone users *****ing that Sprint has crippled "their data service" Really? LMFAO! It's the iPhone users that have crippled service for everyone else. I think since they have flooded "our data network" that those of us who have garbage service right now should be flooding Sprint's call center and demanding they do something about it. No fees, no Premium Data charges, service credit, something! A few people cant get anything done but several thousand can.

Ouch man, where do you live? Oh are you strictly speaking 3G? I average 1200 to 1400kbps on 3G
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That's not good. On the UK on my sensation (o2) I got 2mb down and 1 up
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brilldoctor said:
That's not good. On the UK on my sensation (o2) I got 2mb down and 1 up
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3g isn't impressive at all but I am happy with my 4g speed considering its unlimited . 1.2 to 1.4Mbps download isn't great but I never use 3g anyway
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my sprint 3g looks like your wifi. usually around 2mbs. i heart sprint. i think ill go make a thread about it.

austin420 said:
my sprint 3g looks like your wifi. usually around 2mbs. i heart sprint. i think ill go make a thread about it.
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I am really satisfied with Sprint myself. If only the younger users know what using a cell phone used to be like...
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JohnCorleone said:
I am really satisfied with Sprint myself. If only the younger users know what using a cell phone used to be like...
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Can you hear me now?
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We were supposed to have 4g a year ago and don't and won't ever have it. Its the iPhone users causing the data issues and Sprints poor decision to carry it on this old network. Im guessing people with good 3g service don't have many iPhone users in their area.
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MikeyLee said:
. Here's the bottom line people. Read the Sprint forums and listen to iPhone users *****ing that Sprint has crippled "their data service" Really? LMFAO! It's the iPhone users that have crippled service for everyone else. I think since they have flooded "our data network" that those of us who have garbage service right now should be flooding Sprint's call center and demanding they do something about it. No fees, no Premium Data charges, service credit, something! A few people cant get anything done but several thousand can.
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If you read the stories, people are complaining that the iPhone is getting much slower data than other Sprint phones in side by side comparisons, same time same location.
Seriously, I hate iPhones as much as you do, but why are you blaming them for your crappy service? They don't use any more data than high end android phones. Sounds like the tower in your area has an issue. Maybe they are doing maintenance.
I just ran a speedtest at my house, which has always been a low signal area. (side of a hill, shadowed from the tower). Today I'm getting 2 bars (never seen more than 3 here, usually get 1 or zero.) and in 3 tests I got a low of 226 kbps and a high of 320 kbsp on 3G. Pretty normal for the location. Trust me, the iPhone is everywhere in this neighborhood.

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If you read the stories, people are complaining that the iPhone is getting much slower data than other Sprint phones in side by side comparisons, same time same location.
Seriously, I hate iPhones as much as you do, but why are you blaming them for your crappy service? They don't use any more data than high end android phones. Sounds like the tower in your area has an issue. Maybe they are doing maintenance.
I just ran a speedtest at my house, which has always been a low signal area. (side of a hill, shadowed from the tower). Today I'm getting 2 bars (never seen more than 3 here, usually get 1 or zero.) and in 3 tests I got a low of 226 kbps and a high of 320 kbsp on 3G. Pretty normal for the location. Trust me, the iPhone is everywhere in this neighborhood.
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I doubt they're doing maintenance. We're usually the last city for anything with Sprint, and this bad service started for me also right after the iPhone launch, it could be anything, but it coincides with that.
And what sucks is the week of the iPhone launch I was able to download the cm7 ROM in less then 30 minutes, now I'm lucky to get 1 bar of signal if I hold the phone just right.
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My signal has been wavering in the last few weeks. I go back-and-forth between 4 bars to none. I live in a metropolitan area that too was promised 4G over a year ago by sales representatives in-store. (Yea... no need to comment on that. I already know the responses, ha ha.)
If you are unhappy, you have three options:
Leave Sprint for another carrier.
Call Sprint and complain. You may be able to get some type of monetary and/or technical assistance for the issues.
Do nothing and enjoy the wonders of Sprint's "marvelous" network.
The last option is my tactic for now, as I want to give Sprint the opportunity to fix their coverage in my area. Though my patience is wearing thin.

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....just long enough for this test.
Pretty big difference between Sprint and WiFi, which is useless when I still cannot make or receive calls... Here's the bottom line people. Read the Sprint forums and listen to iPhone users *****ing that Sprint has crippled "their data service" Really? LMFAO! It's the iPhone users that have crippled service for everyone else. I think since they have flooded "our data network" that those of us who have garbage service right now should be flooding Sprint's call center and demanding they do something about it. No fees, no Premium Data charges, service credit, something! A few people cant get anything done but several thousand can.
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I too get between 1.0 to 1.4 Mps with my 3g speeds.
You need to talk to sprint about getting air rave or change your prl to verizon or something. Those speeds are just sorry.

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Ouch man, where do you live? Oh are you strictly speaking 3G? I average 1200 to 1400kbps on 3G
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Shut up man You're killing me with your "super" 3G speeds..
I just posted on twitter yesterday about this. I'm getting .25-200kbps down and 24kbps up. :-(
It's been like this for months. I got the next 4 months free though, so I can't really complain. They are currently upgrading capacity in my area. I can't take this much longer.
Nice to see you

My 3g is fast and signal is always good where I live.. switch carriors if your area doesn't have good services .....
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I got the next 4 months free though, so I can't really complain.
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Sounds like you're getting what you're paying for!
In all seriousness, pathetic speeds, but their customer service at least seems good. I can't complain around here... Just pulled 1057/370 on 3G.

I just pulled 653kb down and 459kb up. Not as bad as some (Rob) but still pretty pathetic.
@John: Between your super 3G speeds and the battery life shots Zigg & Paul keep sending me from their Nexus S's, I'm a sad panda here.

Has anyone else had problems with 4g connecting todayin the baltimore area?

At my work location in Long Island, I get the same speeds with Sprint 3G as I get on Verizon 1x (RoamControl) = pathetic. It is indoors but close to a window. 2 bars with Sprint, 5 with VZW. Once Prime is released, methinks it's goodbye Sprint, hello VZW data caps

Hang in there. I can honestly say I was in your boat for months here. They finally rolled out extra capacity in my city last Thursday. I'm getting 1.5 MBits/sec at last.
Before that, I was getting 50kbps down, or sometimes it would timeout.
But you should call in and file a complaint. I'd imagine problems tend to get fixed faster on the technicians queues with more complaints.

That network speed test that your using will get you mixed results. Change your closest tower in the setting and try again. I was getting the same results whe I picked my hometown kalamazoo, mi. But when I picked chicago. My speed went up. I notice this while doing a speed test on my home computer. Then when I had my wifi on my phone I was getting a third of the speeed I should of.
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