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It's taken me quite sometime to realise how much superior AOSP ROM's are in comparison to Sammy based ROM's, i first flashed Supernexus out of curiosity a few weeks ago and was blown away by it's speed and smoothness far far better than Sammy ROM's in every respect, i then went onto Liquid Jellybean which was even better especially the battery life but with a few minor bugs and no update as of yet but im sure it'll come at some stage, now im on blackbean which uses the same base as Liquid JB and amazing stuff indeed, the speed and smoothness is unrivaled, with more development it will only get better.
Previously ive had superb ROM's like CheckRom, Android Revolution and Omega which are all excellent ROM's in their own individual way but i doubt ill ever go back to anything that isn't AOSP now unless some serious development happens which i wouldn't be surprised on XDA, so what type of ROM's do people prefer for their Galaxy S3?
Totally agree mate!
Aosp ones are the best...
the only thing i wait is the official jb update so the aosp ones can get sources to built on and also to have the best sammy ones(comparable to aosp since it's jb) ever!
But until then,aosp all the way...
Aokp Liquid and Resurrection for new I use Samy base JB Dragon
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jonny68 said:
It's taken me quite sometime to realise how much superior AOSP ROM's are in comparison to Sammy based ROM's, i first flashed Supernexus out of curiosity a few weeks ago and was blown away by it's speed and smoothness far far better than Sammy ROM's in every respect, i then went onto Liquid Jellybean which was even better especially the battery life but with a few minor bugs and no update as of yet but im sure it'll come at some stage, now im on blackbean which uses the same base as Liquid JB and amazing stuff indeed, the speed and smoothness is unrivaled, with more development it will only get better.
Previously ive had superb ROM's like CheckRom, Android Revolution and Omega which are all excellent ROM's in their own individual way but i doubt ill ever go back to anything that isn't AOSP now unless some serious development happens which i wouldn't be surprised on XDA, so what type of ROM's do people prefer for their Galaxy S3?
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I used to have a Captivate and ran only AOSP/CM/AOKP roms. I still have it (use it as an mp3 player) and it's awesome.
No on my i9300, I'm using Omega v11. I tried SuperNexus Build 1 and tried a couple of AOSP based rom. I haven't tried later JB roms because I'm concerned with the memory leaks and lack of tv out and stuff like that. The main difference I found is the camera. The Samsung Camera app is very, very good. It is, flat out, superior to the ICS/JB Camera app. Allshare, FM Radio, TV Out, seem usually to be unsupported on AOSP roms (please correct me if I'm wrong).
I think AOSP (and variants) roms are very good. UI is sleaker and they might be a bit more responsive, but I could appreciate a greater difference when I had a Galaxy S with a half baked Touchwiz on it that with the complete monster the i9300 is with a thought out, 3rd or 4th generation Touchwiz. I still use Nova Launcher, because it looks better to me, but I love Smart Stay, TV out is absurdly useful to play n64 games or so with an emulator and a ps3 controller and again, the camera.
I might go back to AOSP roms. I've been looking for a good theme for stock roms, but haven't found one that actually replicates the feeling. However, functionality wise, I think Samsung's Roms are superior.
Excellent thread....Aosp are very responsive and pretty slick....you can feel the new all the advantages of JB.....but as said by monoespacial, the tricks in TW such as smart stay and others are very useful...it'll will be great if one of our outstanding developers in this forum can bake a Rom based on Aosp JB including all the mentionned tweaks.......excellent forum and wonderful community.....thanks.
I've had two nexus phones so I love aosp, it's android perfection.
In saying that, I've found myself flashing Cm10 or supernexus or liquid because I was sick of tw but after a day or two I get sick of them, I always end up going back to tw roms, especially since the JB leaks, the latest one is near perfection.
Tw JB roms COMPLETELY de-bloated are pretty damn smooth and fast, right now I see no need for aosp roms.
There are too many handy features in the tw roms.
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yeah
they are simple and fast, and can install kernel with oveclock
but:
-no wifi tethering (its important to me)
-some FC
-inferior camera app
-without some features, like smart stay, etc ...
I agree!! Those AOSP or AOKP are excellent in terms of speed and smooth-ness. It also somehow integrate to the Google products better. However, they are often very simple interface with nothing much..
Too bad at this moment, there are still bugs that can't be fixed.
In the future, I will just go and get the original Google Nexus phone... You'll get the latest update first hand and there are less bloatware installed
- Charles
Haven't tried other AOSP rom except CM. Can't wait for memory leak fix on CM10
aosp is fast and slick , i love it but there is no denying the fact samsung has improved the quality of their roms for s3..... aosp vs stock is always been a debatable question where aosp always wins. but with galaxy s3 roms samsung has progressed one step higher.
at the end of the day not only the speed that matters but also the releaibility and functionality...
advatanges of aosp:
* Your mobile is fast and clean.
* More room for multitasking with more memory available.
* Wide variety of themes to choose from.
* aokp and derivative of aosp roms are simply amazing
disadvantages:
* it just makes your s3 like any other mobile that runs aosp. No device specific functions.
* Inferior camera.
* you will never get some features .
hoping to see a bug free cmx soon...................................
nodstuff said:
I've had two nexus phones so I love aosp, it's android perfection.
In saying that, I've found myself flashing Cm10 or supernexus or liquid because I was sick of tw but after a day or two I get sick of them, I always end up going back to tw roms, especially since the JB leaks, the latest one is near perfection.
Tw JB roms COMPLETELY de-bloated are pretty damn smooth and fast, right now I see no need for aosp roms.
There are too many handy features in the tw roms.
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I agree! I started off my rom flashing on a milestone2 and when I got cm7 on it for the first time, I was in love with it. Then I got a g2x which was stock gb all the way too.
Finally I get this sg3 which was a must have and wow, I have used cm 9,10, every other aosp and aokp rom but stock again has more stuff u can't get from others.
I adw, Nova, launcher pro but I just tw all the way. Suits my needs.
I guess the best thing about it is, we could always change it when need be!
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I do like the AOSP / AOKP etc. roms due to their speed, clean base and an intuitive user interface, but some bad things keep me from going to them.
Annoying bugs:
More FC's
Bluetooth works bad with A2DP headphones - choppy sound, interruption etc.
Native USB Tither doesn't work
Overheating compared to stock roms
Some cool things missing from stock roms such as superior camera, video call, smart stay etc.
A lot of minor bugs
Just to respond to some posts (good replies by the way)some people mentioned an inferior camera, a third party camera app like Camera ZoomFX does the job nicely and is one of the best IMO.
I rarely use WiFi tethering although ill probably be using it for 1 week next week while i wait to change broadband providers, there ar emany third party apps that im sure will do the job there.
If some TW features could be implemented into AOSP it would be a win win situation, but with the speed and responsiveness and battery life so good im staying put, much and all as i like ROM's like CheckRom and Android Revolution (2 of the best Sammy based ROM's IMO) but after having AOSP on the dog and bone i couldn't go back.
jonny68 said:
Just to respond to some posts (good replies by the way)some people mentioned an inferior camera, a third party camera app like Camera ZoomFX does the job nicely and is one of the best IMO.
I rarely use WiFi tethering although ill probably be using it for 1 week next week while i wait to change broadband providers, there ar emany third party apps that im sure will do the job there.
If some TW features could be implemented into AOSP it would be a win win situation, but with the speed and responsiveness and battery life so good im staying put, much and all as i like ROM's like CheckRom and Android Revolution (2 of the best Sammy based ROM's IMO) but after having AOSP on the dog and bone i couldn't go back.
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true, it would be nice to have new touchwiz features in cmx btw whatever the 3rd party app you use you cant get near to the stock camera app which has fetures like hdr,buddy share and more and adding to the arsenal jb update brings "pause while recording" feature to the camera app. BUt sadly its the price we have to pay for the luxury of aosp
Yeah, I was blown away at the speed of AOSP, the one major disadvantage(in my eyes) is the current memory leak present.
I'm sure that in due time, the AOSP camera will get all those features present on the Sammy camera.
I guess the thing I miss the most from the Sammy ROM was the swipe left to message and swipe right to call. Very useful feature IMO.
can someone confirm if USB tethering works on AOSP?
Does anybody know if CM10.1 is coming to the GS4 i9500 (the octa core version)?
So far no one wants to deal with the Exynos 5 version isn't been lacking resources for ages now and samsung drove them off by keeping documents in private.
lets see perhaps another developer gets an intrest in the I9500 model and tries building a CM rom based on it....
some devs are doing great stuff with the stock ROM and they keep the device alive, so we will keep being petiance.
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So far no one wants to deal with the Exynos 5 version isn't been lacking resources for ages now and samsung drove them off by keeping documents in private.
lets see perhaps another developer gets an intrest in the I9500 model and tries building a CM rom based on it....
some devs are doing great stuff with the stock ROM and they keep the device alive, so we will keep being petiance.
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CM will be pretty useless on the S4 though. Even If it were made available, the drivers for the S4#s sensors are closed-source, so you would be cutting functionality by 40%. No IR blaster is a no go. Also, CM interface is outdated. Im all honesty TouchWizz has caught up with CM (Notification bar toggles, quickly scalable auto-brightness), so a slim TouchWizz will just be more functional. Just change the launcher and theme and you have a CM experience.
CM nostalgia is fine but not at the expense of functionality (at least for me).
puremind said:
CM will be pretty useless on the S4 though. Even If it were made available, the drivers for the S4#s sensors are closed-source, so you would be cutting functionality by 40%. No IR blaster is a no go. Also, CM interface is outdated. Im all honesty TouchWizz has caught up with CM (Notification bar toggles, quickly scalable auto-brightness), so a slim TouchWizz will just be more functional. Just change the launcher and theme and you have a CM experience.
CM nostalgia is fine but not at the expense of functionality (at least for me).
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I totally agree with you, for all i know we all bought this device not for its 8 core proccessor, but its fantastic features such as: MultiWindow, IR Blaster, Air Gestures, Unique sensors... and a pretty good CAM. if someone wanted this just to install CM will bad news he should have got a nexus.
who cares TW is fantastic some guys are *****ing about it will we have the gret Themers around they did some nice things lately though i think stock look is awesome lovely colors and eye relaxing its the reason they choose them and even if the brightness is a little down you are still able to see the button... after all GS4 had a great awaitting some were disappointed cause they wished and expected too much and others are flying around with it and loving each moment. iam on the second group after comming for the Note 1 i can say its the perfect replacment for me, good battery, a real great screen (not only HD but the size is like the best you can wish for a device this size), and features will you name it anything that samsung had in the past or thought for the future is installed a handy device and i believe lacks nothing we used to say Samsung releases devices with outdated Android version will 4.2.2 is the latest and smooooooth i can say for sure
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I totally agree with you, for all i know we all bought this device not for its 8 core proccessor, but its fantastic features such as: MultiWindow, IR Blaster, Air Gestures, Unique sensors... and a pretty good CAM. if someone wanted this just to install CM will bad news he should have got a nexus.
who cares TW is fantastic some guys are *****ing about it will we have the gret Themers around they did some nice things lately though i think stock look is awesome lovely colors and eye relaxing its the reason they choose them and even if the brightness is a little down you are still able to see the button... after all GS4 had a great awaitting some were disappointed cause they wished and expected too much and others are flying around with it and loving each moment. iam on the second group after comming for the Note 1 i can say its the perfect replacment for me, good battery, a real great screen (not only HD but the size is like the best you can wish for a device this size), and features will you name it anything that samsung had in the past or thought for the future is installed a handy device and i believe lacks nothing we used to say Samsung releases devices with outdated Android version will 4.2.2 is the latest and smooooooth i can say for sure
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I just changed to Trebuchet Launcher (because I love the zoom transition and it has more space for apps) and Chronus Clock (as a replacement for TW weather+clock) and I am really happy about it now.
I even put the AOSP browser, which is a bit faster (and brighter) than the Stock Browser (AOSP Browser installer from Google Play).
I also put EX Dialer for Phone and Contacts. And that's the best experience currently available.
The main case for CM10.1 is to have a pure Android experience that is "compatible", but in all honesty, I have no compatibility issues with TW. I use the slim version of it, so it is not bloated anymore. The only compelling reason would be extreme performance boost and fluidity, but I won't sacrifice the remote control and other functionality for it!
If Samsung does not release open source drivers with the Google edition, then we won't see CM10.1 evolve toward decent functionality I am afraid.
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When the future android kitkat
pcmy said:
When the future android kitkat
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According to known sources...it'll come with the s5...at march...
Cm10.1 on my s3 is awesome but it makes the device have connectivity issues (wireless radio performance is cut quite noticeably.).
Can anyone tell me if the s4's AOSP ROMs have this issue? Is Touchwiz a better experience as far as 3g/4g go?
Thanks, might get this phone soon and jist seeing if I'll run into this again.
Out of curiosity, what will my family be able to do with their new phones that is unique to the S4, especially compared to the HTC Evo 3D.
For me, in particular, what sort of issues are there with rooting, and which ROMs mix the best of AOSP and Touchwiz? I'd like to be able to use the IR Blaster and the great camera app, but have heard Touchwiz is insanely bloaty, plus I prefer the AOSP quick toggles.
I'd like to ask what would be the state of each of the next features on SGS5 (any of its models) when moving to an AOSP based rom (like CM, Omni, PA, ...) :
1. MHL/HDMI
2. Screen recording.
3. Calls recording
4. hovering with the fingers.
5. touching with gloves
6. sensors
7. IR
8. Any TW app (camera, keyboard, etc...)
By state, I mean, how well would it function, if at all.
Also, I'd like to ask (as I don't really own the device) : what would you miss the most in case you moved from stock-Samsung rom to AOSP-based rom?
Any feature I didn't mention ?
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I'd like to ask what would be the state of each of the next features on SGS5 (any of its models) when moving to an AOSP based rom (like CM, Omni, PA, ...) :
1. MHL/HDMI
2. Screen recording.
3. Calls recording
4. hovering with the fingers.
5. touching with gloves
6. sensors
7. IR
8. Any TW app (camera, keyboard, etc...)
By state, I mean, how well would it function, if at all.
Also, I'd like to ask (as I don't really own the device) : what would you miss the most in case you moved from stock-Samsung rom to AOSP-based rom?
Any feature I didn't mention ?
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Sadly, most of these functions have not been carried over to AOSP based roms. Most of these functions seem to arrive on Cyanogenmod first.
I do know that Cyanogenmod is currently supporting IR but it is not complete enough to run 100% daily driver. They're having GPU video/image rendering issues in some apps, camera isn't properly configured. It's all stuff being worked on but I am sure all of these functions are on Cyanogenmod's to-do to support all of the hardware features of most devices.
Glove sensitivity functions perfectly in cyanogenmod, most sensors work perfectly as well. The eye-tracking features are likely not ever going to be a part of AOSP roms. Hopefully Hover gets picked up by more manufactures and becomes a part of AOSP and the SDK for apps, it has great possibilities for better intuitive interfaces.
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Sadly, most of these functions have not been carried over to AOSP based roms. Most of these functions seem to arrive on Cyanogenmod first.
I do know that Cyanogenmod is currently supporting IR but it is not complete enough to run 100% daily driver. They're having GPU video/image rendering issues in some apps, camera isn't properly configured. It's all stuff being worked on but I am sure all of these functions are on Cyanogenmod's to-do to support all of the hardware features of most devices.
Glove sensitivity functions perfectly in cyanogenmod, most sensors work perfectly as well. The eye-tracking features are likely not ever going to be a part of AOSP roms. Hopefully Hover gets picked up by more manufactures and becomes a part of AOSP and the SDK for apps, it has great possibilities for better intuitive interfaces.
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I see. Not even screen recording?
Is this the situation with all of the variants of the device?
I wonder how well other devices (even of other manufacturers) are supported by CM (and other AOSP based roms).
I assume Nexus is one of the best ones that they support.
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I see. Not even screen recording?
Is this the situation with all of the variants of the device?
I wonder how well other devices (even of other manufacturers) are supported by CM (and other AOSP based roms).
I assume Nexus is one of the best ones that they support.
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Screen recording is in the works on Cyanogenmod and in the process of being built for compatibility on all devices. It's a lot of work to build software in compatibility will all hardware. Nexus devices to get the extra bit of love because those devices are arms wide open to the developer community. Samsung, LG, and HTC are getting hit hard by locked bootloaders on the two giant carriers verizon and AT&T... if those bootloaders were not locked, I am sure that the flagship devices from those companies would be getting a LOT more developer support, especially from Cyanogenmod team.
Such as, the Galaxy S3 (and a moment for the S4) were the last devices that were getting insta-written AOSP code and compatibility support for AOSP based roms while the majority of them were bootloader unlocked/unlockable. The Galaxy S5 is being developed for, just a bit slowly, sadly. AT&T and Verizon models are totally bootloader locked with no current workaround.
The nexus devices may seem to be better supported by the developers but the Nexus devices aren't as complex and have a more basic hardware layout lacking alot of the extras and premium features of the samsung, htc, and LG family- those devices require more attention.
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Screen recording is in the works on Cyanogenmod and in the process of being built for compatibility on all devices. It's a lot of work to build software in compatibility will all hardware. Nexus devices to get the extra bit of love because those devices are arms wide open to the developer community. Samsung, LG, and HTC are getting hit hard by locked bootloaders on the two giant carriers verizon and AT&T... if those bootloaders were not locked, I am sure that the flagship devices from those companies would be getting a LOT more developer support, especially from Cyanogenmod team.
Such as, the Galaxy S3 (and a moment for the S4) were the last devices that were getting insta-written AOSP code and compatibility support for AOSP based roms while the majority of them were bootloader unlocked/unlockable. The Galaxy S5 is being developed for, just a bit slowly, sadly. AT&T and Verizon models are totally bootloader locked with no current workaround.
The nexus devices may seem to be better supported by the developers but the Nexus devices aren't as complex and have a more basic hardware layout lacking alot of the extras and premium features of the samsung, htc, and LG family- those devices require more attention.
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I see. So it takes a lot of work.
Say, you mentioned the SGS3. I have this device. Do you think it will ever support screen recording on CM ? Currently it's very very slow. I've tried the special customized rom that's based on Note 2, and this feature worked fine there. I've left this rom because of some reasons I don't remember about (maybe stability).
All those features are available in samsung based custom roms. Why does it have to be AOSP based?
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