[Q] A question about features on AOSP based roms for SGS5 - Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'd like to ask what would be the state of each of the next features on SGS5 (any of its models) when moving to an AOSP based rom (like CM, Omni, PA, ...) :
1. MHL/HDMI
2. Screen recording.
3. Calls recording
4. hovering with the fingers.
5. touching with gloves
6. sensors
7. IR
8. Any TW app (camera, keyboard, etc...)
By state, I mean, how well would it function, if at all.
Also, I'd like to ask (as I don't really own the device) : what would you miss the most in case you moved from stock-Samsung rom to AOSP-based rom?
Any feature I didn't mention ?

AndroidDeveloperLB said:
I'd like to ask what would be the state of each of the next features on SGS5 (any of its models) when moving to an AOSP based rom (like CM, Omni, PA, ...) :
1. MHL/HDMI
2. Screen recording.
3. Calls recording
4. hovering with the fingers.
5. touching with gloves
6. sensors
7. IR
8. Any TW app (camera, keyboard, etc...)
By state, I mean, how well would it function, if at all.
Also, I'd like to ask (as I don't really own the device) : what would you miss the most in case you moved from stock-Samsung rom to AOSP-based rom?
Any feature I didn't mention ?
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Sadly, most of these functions have not been carried over to AOSP based roms. Most of these functions seem to arrive on Cyanogenmod first.
I do know that Cyanogenmod is currently supporting IR but it is not complete enough to run 100% daily driver. They're having GPU video/image rendering issues in some apps, camera isn't properly configured. It's all stuff being worked on but I am sure all of these functions are on Cyanogenmod's to-do to support all of the hardware features of most devices.
Glove sensitivity functions perfectly in cyanogenmod, most sensors work perfectly as well. The eye-tracking features are likely not ever going to be a part of AOSP roms. Hopefully Hover gets picked up by more manufactures and becomes a part of AOSP and the SDK for apps, it has great possibilities for better intuitive interfaces.

stevey500 said:
Sadly, most of these functions have not been carried over to AOSP based roms. Most of these functions seem to arrive on Cyanogenmod first.
I do know that Cyanogenmod is currently supporting IR but it is not complete enough to run 100% daily driver. They're having GPU video/image rendering issues in some apps, camera isn't properly configured. It's all stuff being worked on but I am sure all of these functions are on Cyanogenmod's to-do to support all of the hardware features of most devices.
Glove sensitivity functions perfectly in cyanogenmod, most sensors work perfectly as well. The eye-tracking features are likely not ever going to be a part of AOSP roms. Hopefully Hover gets picked up by more manufactures and becomes a part of AOSP and the SDK for apps, it has great possibilities for better intuitive interfaces.
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I see. Not even screen recording?
Is this the situation with all of the variants of the device?
I wonder how well other devices (even of other manufacturers) are supported by CM (and other AOSP based roms).
I assume Nexus is one of the best ones that they support.

AndroidDeveloperLB said:
I see. Not even screen recording?
Is this the situation with all of the variants of the device?
I wonder how well other devices (even of other manufacturers) are supported by CM (and other AOSP based roms).
I assume Nexus is one of the best ones that they support.
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Screen recording is in the works on Cyanogenmod and in the process of being built for compatibility on all devices. It's a lot of work to build software in compatibility will all hardware. Nexus devices to get the extra bit of love because those devices are arms wide open to the developer community. Samsung, LG, and HTC are getting hit hard by locked bootloaders on the two giant carriers verizon and AT&T... if those bootloaders were not locked, I am sure that the flagship devices from those companies would be getting a LOT more developer support, especially from Cyanogenmod team.
Such as, the Galaxy S3 (and a moment for the S4) were the last devices that were getting insta-written AOSP code and compatibility support for AOSP based roms while the majority of them were bootloader unlocked/unlockable. The Galaxy S5 is being developed for, just a bit slowly, sadly. AT&T and Verizon models are totally bootloader locked with no current workaround.
The nexus devices may seem to be better supported by the developers but the Nexus devices aren't as complex and have a more basic hardware layout lacking alot of the extras and premium features of the samsung, htc, and LG family- those devices require more attention.

stevey500 said:
Screen recording is in the works on Cyanogenmod and in the process of being built for compatibility on all devices. It's a lot of work to build software in compatibility will all hardware. Nexus devices to get the extra bit of love because those devices are arms wide open to the developer community. Samsung, LG, and HTC are getting hit hard by locked bootloaders on the two giant carriers verizon and AT&T... if those bootloaders were not locked, I am sure that the flagship devices from those companies would be getting a LOT more developer support, especially from Cyanogenmod team.
Such as, the Galaxy S3 (and a moment for the S4) were the last devices that were getting insta-written AOSP code and compatibility support for AOSP based roms while the majority of them were bootloader unlocked/unlockable. The Galaxy S5 is being developed for, just a bit slowly, sadly. AT&T and Verizon models are totally bootloader locked with no current workaround.
The nexus devices may seem to be better supported by the developers but the Nexus devices aren't as complex and have a more basic hardware layout lacking alot of the extras and premium features of the samsung, htc, and LG family- those devices require more attention.
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I see. So it takes a lot of work.
Say, you mentioned the SGS3. I have this device. Do you think it will ever support screen recording on CM ? Currently it's very very slow. I've tried the special customized rom that's based on Note 2, and this feature worked fine there. I've left this rom because of some reasons I don't remember about (maybe stability).

All those features are available in samsung based custom roms. Why does it have to be AOSP based?
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[Q] First time Non Samsung User...Why Cyanogen on Nexus?

I have been a Samsung user since the Captivate. I understand the use for Cyanogen on those devices to rid them of all things Samsung. But this device is already vanilla. As I was not a Cyanogen user and am not now on the NOte 2 because I need what the Note offers natively and I like the Samsung apps and native driver support for things like the FM Radio and S Pen apps.
That said I bought the Tab 2 7 that did not have the Samsung apps that needed those drivers so I flashed Cynogen and liked it ecept for the BT issue on 4.2. (Which I realize is not a Cyanogen issue).
That all said I have a Nexus on the way and wonder what are the benefits of Cyanogen on an already Vanilla OS? What am I missing here. Google apps is the necessary "bloat"
Not sure what ROM I will rin but I know I will root and flash as usual but outside of rooting and flashing CWM the clear benefits escape me.
What am I missing?
Because nothing is perfect, including google's AOSP. I'm a big fan of the built-in OTG USB storage via the android vold. A lot of people are getting boners over the chronus widget. It has a nice filebrowser that isnt all bloated up like so many other ones. And the power-widget-pulldown thing is coming together nicely.
gianptune said:
Because nothing is perfect, including google's AOSP. I'm a big fan of the built-in OTG USB storage via the android vold. A lot of people are getting boners over the chronus widget. It has a nice filebrowser that isnt all bloated up like so many other ones. And the power-widget-pulldown thing is coming together nicely.
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Thanks
So Nexus 7 does nOt have native support for OTG USB? I thought the Nexus Media Importer was a native OTG application? I normally use Nova and Root Explorer regardless of the ROM. I guess I am just trying to wrap my head around the custom ROM thing on a Vanilla, non Samsung device.
Been wondering the same thing. Had the Captivate and now the Infuse. Rooted my Nexus 7 today. No it sure the reason for other Roms like my Samsung phones. Been working on reading up on that.
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Cause CM isn't vanilla. It's a custom ROM with a lot of features.
Cyanogen mod is a custom ROM, modified with may improvements and tweaks. It has always been a custom ROM, from the early G1 days up until now. It brings with it numerous speed and functionality tweaks, not to mention themes and many other customisation features that are not available in stock android.
IIIIkoolaidIIII said:
Cyanogen mod is a custom ROM, modified with may improvements and tweaks. It has always been a custom ROM, from the early G1 days up until now. It brings with it numerous speed and functionality tweaks, not to mention themes and many other customisation features that are not available in stock android.
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Thanks for a more detailed explanation. . Been flashing Samsung TW ROMS since the Captivate, Always enjoyed the extras without losing the Samsung Apps I liked (or needed for the phone hardware function).
I Never was a flashaholic so I stayed away from Works in Progress and "nightly flashing" , I would find a Developer I like and stick with it.
I did not try Cyanogen until the TAB as it had no hardware feature dependent on Samsung drivers I could not live without. . I liked it. AOKP seems to be a more customizable Cyanogen based or type ROM. Now with the Nexus coming I can compare the TAB side by side and decide to keep one and sell the other, The custom ROMs will have a large say in which one I keep. I never run Touch Wiz or Trechbet and likely will stay with Nova regardless of which Tablet or ROM I decide on.
I did not get the 3G version of the Nexus though so the TAB has an edge in that regard. The screen is washed out though compared to my Note and THAT is disappointing. Want to see it next to the Nexus.

[Q] Anyone switched from Nexus 4?

Hey guys,
I`am thinking of ordering a Oppo Find 5 32GB, i have a Nexus 4 atm and i`am looking for something new.
Is it a definate upgrade? The specs on paper seem great but how does the phone do in real life.
Would appreciate some user feedback
Same here. I am thinking of doing the same. I am particularly hoping for a stable PA/CM10.1 ROM soon, and more kernel development if possible.
gee2012 said:
Hey guys,
I`am thinking of ordering a Oppo Find 5 32GB, i have a Nexus 4 atm and i`am looking for something new.
Is it a definate upgrade? The specs on paper seem great but how does the phone do in real life.
Would appreciate some user feedback
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it's not a goodupgrade..
same CPU, RAM, GPU, same problems with: OTG, no microSD expansion, no removable battery
you get a better/larger display, slightly better(in specs) or worse(in terms of software capabilities so far) camera....
and worse battery life / smoothless/performance in ROMs.....and more expensive
no matter how good the CM10.1 port for the find 5 is, nexus 4 ports will be snappier as they have the backing of google
If ports are based on aosp how can they be snappier .....only a bit of kernel tweaks and some camera enhancements will make this phone awesome
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munchy_cool said:
If ports are based on aosp how can they be snappier .....only a bit of kernel tweaks and some camera enhancements will make this phone awesome
Sent from my Find 5 using Tapatalk 2
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i'm talking specifically about the device/kernel tree....
for nexus 4, it comes from google (who has access to all the proprietary documents, binaries)
for oppo find 5, it comes from people like XpLoDWilD, Entropy512, ... . They may have to interpret that info based on how the Oppo Stock Rom works, previous experience, hacks needed to make stuff work...
this portion will contain bugs / inefficiencies in the codebase
and when you move from different android versions, the proprietary binaries differ and may not be compatible. For Nexus devices, google gives you those updated binaries... for other devices (like Oppo), you may have to beg Oppo to get the latest binaries, steal it from a similar device that has the update, or hack your way (which creates inefficiencies / bugs)
see: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/drivers
this is why you have: stable cm10.1 ports on some devices, but still buggy/slow compared to the nexus line
paperWastage said:
i'm talking specifically about the device/kernel tree....
for nexus 4, it comes from google (who has access to all the proprietary documents, binaries)
for oppo find 5, it comes from people like XpLoDWilD, Entropy512, ... . They may have to interpret that info based on how the Oppo Stock Rom works, previous experience, hacks needed to make stuff work...
this portion will contain bugs / inefficiencies in the codebase
and when you move from different android versions, the proprietary binaries differ and may not be compatible. For Nexus devices, google gives you those updated binaries... for other devices (like Oppo), you may have to beg Oppo to get the latest binaries, steal it from a similar device that has the update, or hack your way (which creates inefficiencies / bugs)
see: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/drivers
this is why you have: stable cm10.1 ports on some devices, but still buggy/slow compared to the nexus line
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I agree with you but that's the case with all non-Google devices.
if you want latest android version you gotta stick with Google devices.
munchy_cool said:
I agree with you but that's the case with all non-Google devices.
if you want latest android version you gotta stick with Google devices.
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i'm talking about the device tree on the current android version.... device tree port by CM developers vs device tree from google
since hardware is mostly the same from nexus 4, but you're moving software-wise from a "optimized" port (with device tree from google) to a Cm10.1 port (with device tree that is still buggy and not optimized by google)..
don't see the reason to switch from nexus 4.
Find 5: aosp -> cm10.1 + device tree from CM developers = ROM
Nexus 4: aosp -> cm10.1 + google's device tree = better ROM
replace cm10.1 with anything else (AOKP, PAC, PA)...
paperWastage said:
i'm talking about the device tree on the current android version.... device tree port by CM developers vs device tree from google
since hardware is mostly the same from nexus 4, but you're moving software-wise from a "optimized" port (with device tree from google) to a Cm10.1 port (with device tree that is still buggy and not optimized by google)..
don't see the reason to switch from nexus 4.
Find 5: aosp -> cm10.1 + device tree from CM developers = ROM
Nexus 4: aosp -> cm10.1 + google's device tree = better ROM
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the reason to switch from n4 would be better & bigger screen, but in that case I would recommend the DNA
I'm making the switch. Mainly for the screen and I didn't feel like paying $650 for the dev HTC One. It'll be interesting to see how Oppo's firmware is as well.
I switched from a Nexus 4 that I've had since November. I was just getting tired of the device and was looking for something with a slightly larger/higher resolution display, but I wasn't looking for a full on phablet (Note II). I have been incredibly satisfied with the unit's build quality and am only slightly thrown off by it's less than stellar stock rom. No worries though, as PA has been rock solid for me. :good::good: Two thumbs up on making the switch!
I'm also thinking of making the switch and also coming from a nexus 4. What I want to see get more development though is on the android ROMs as there are none. On the original android development I do see cm 10.1,pa,ect.. Which is pretty much the stuff I'm running on the nexus 4 already. I wanna see oppo find 5 u.i based roms.if I'm gonna make the switch and use the same base ROMs as the nexus 4 I might as well stick with the nexus 4 instead.
marcviado said:
I'm also thinking of making the switch and also coming from a nexus 4. What I want to see get more development though is on the android ROMs as there are none. On the original android development I do see cm 10.1,pa,ect.. Which is pretty much the stuff I'm running on the nexus 4 already. I wanna see oppo find 5 u.i based roms.if I'm gonna make the switch and use the same base ROMs as the nexus 4 I might as well stick with the nexus 4 instead.
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I think it is pretty unlikely that you'll see a lot of custom ROM's for Find 5, considering much lower number of users compared to other phones.
I think i`am gonna stick with the N4 for now and mainly for its optimized firmware. The firmware of the Oppo is clearly not as good (or finished) as the N4`s. Pitty, would have liked to try it out. Aah well, maybe at a later point or its successor. Thanks for the reply`s guys :good:
marcviado said:
I'm also thinking of making the switch and also coming from a nexus 4. What I want to see get more development though is on the android ROMs as there are none. On the original android development I do see cm 10.1,pa,ect.. Which is pretty much the stuff I'm running on the nexus 4 already. I wanna see oppo find 5 u.i based roms.if I'm gonna make the switch and use the same base ROMs as the nexus 4 I might as well stick with the nexus 4 instead.
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MIUI is the closest "alternative" to Find 5's stock UI rom... find one (probably won't be on XDA) that works on a phone you would want, then buy that phone
next alternative would be the iPhone
N4 owner as well. While I have a hard time putting down my Find 5, if I'm to be totally honest, the N4 is hard to beat. Mostly software I guess, its hard to find a flaw. The Find 5 is still being optimized and tweaked on a regular basis... which is great but not needed in the Nexus. Still though, the Find 5 is one nice device with a lot of potential!
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[Q] [q] cm10.1 galaxy s4 i9500?

Does anybody know if CM10.1 is coming to the GS4 i9500 (the octa core version)?
So far no one wants to deal with the Exynos 5 version isn't been lacking resources for ages now and samsung drove them off by keeping documents in private.
lets see perhaps another developer gets an intrest in the I9500 model and tries building a CM rom based on it....
some devs are doing great stuff with the stock ROM and they keep the device alive, so we will keep being petiance.
REVERSiN said:
So far no one wants to deal with the Exynos 5 version isn't been lacking resources for ages now and samsung drove them off by keeping documents in private.
lets see perhaps another developer gets an intrest in the I9500 model and tries building a CM rom based on it....
some devs are doing great stuff with the stock ROM and they keep the device alive, so we will keep being petiance.
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CM will be pretty useless on the S4 though. Even If it were made available, the drivers for the S4#s sensors are closed-source, so you would be cutting functionality by 40%. No IR blaster is a no go. Also, CM interface is outdated. Im all honesty TouchWizz has caught up with CM (Notification bar toggles, quickly scalable auto-brightness), so a slim TouchWizz will just be more functional. Just change the launcher and theme and you have a CM experience.
CM nostalgia is fine but not at the expense of functionality (at least for me).
puremind said:
CM will be pretty useless on the S4 though. Even If it were made available, the drivers for the S4#s sensors are closed-source, so you would be cutting functionality by 40%. No IR blaster is a no go. Also, CM interface is outdated. Im all honesty TouchWizz has caught up with CM (Notification bar toggles, quickly scalable auto-brightness), so a slim TouchWizz will just be more functional. Just change the launcher and theme and you have a CM experience.
CM nostalgia is fine but not at the expense of functionality (at least for me).
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I totally agree with you, for all i know we all bought this device not for its 8 core proccessor, but its fantastic features such as: MultiWindow, IR Blaster, Air Gestures, Unique sensors... and a pretty good CAM. if someone wanted this just to install CM will bad news he should have got a nexus.
who cares TW is fantastic some guys are *****ing about it will we have the gret Themers around they did some nice things lately though i think stock look is awesome lovely colors and eye relaxing its the reason they choose them and even if the brightness is a little down you are still able to see the button... after all GS4 had a great awaitting some were disappointed cause they wished and expected too much and others are flying around with it and loving each moment. iam on the second group after comming for the Note 1 i can say its the perfect replacment for me, good battery, a real great screen (not only HD but the size is like the best you can wish for a device this size), and features will you name it anything that samsung had in the past or thought for the future is installed a handy device and i believe lacks nothing we used to say Samsung releases devices with outdated Android version will 4.2.2 is the latest and smooooooth i can say for sure
REVERSiN said:
I totally agree with you, for all i know we all bought this device not for its 8 core proccessor, but its fantastic features such as: MultiWindow, IR Blaster, Air Gestures, Unique sensors... and a pretty good CAM. if someone wanted this just to install CM will bad news he should have got a nexus.
who cares TW is fantastic some guys are *****ing about it will we have the gret Themers around they did some nice things lately though i think stock look is awesome lovely colors and eye relaxing its the reason they choose them and even if the brightness is a little down you are still able to see the button... after all GS4 had a great awaitting some were disappointed cause they wished and expected too much and others are flying around with it and loving each moment. iam on the second group after comming for the Note 1 i can say its the perfect replacment for me, good battery, a real great screen (not only HD but the size is like the best you can wish for a device this size), and features will you name it anything that samsung had in the past or thought for the future is installed a handy device and i believe lacks nothing we used to say Samsung releases devices with outdated Android version will 4.2.2 is the latest and smooooooth i can say for sure
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I just changed to Trebuchet Launcher (because I love the zoom transition and it has more space for apps) and Chronus Clock (as a replacement for TW weather+clock) and I am really happy about it now.
I even put the AOSP browser, which is a bit faster (and brighter) than the Stock Browser (AOSP Browser installer from Google Play).
I also put EX Dialer for Phone and Contacts. And that's the best experience currently available.
The main case for CM10.1 is to have a pure Android experience that is "compatible", but in all honesty, I have no compatibility issues with TW. I use the slim version of it, so it is not bloated anymore. The only compelling reason would be extreme performance boost and fluidity, but I won't sacrifice the remote control and other functionality for it!
If Samsung does not release open source drivers with the Google edition, then we won't see CM10.1 evolve toward decent functionality I am afraid.
galaxy s4 I9500
When the future android kitkat
pcmy said:
When the future android kitkat
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According to known sources...it'll come with the s5...at march...

[Q]will AOSP roms be likely for verizon S5?

Wondering if AOSP roms will be easily flashable for the Verizon S5? Specifically LiquidSmooth. I know newer S4's etc have a hard time installing AOSP roms with SafeStrap. Think same will remain true for S 5?
Non-stock roms would result in certain features ceasing to work. For example, I'd say the fingerprint scanner will never work outside of stock. Also, the camera is likely to lose a lot of features, the on the fly HDR mode and multi focus shots being two of them, not to mention an overall loss of quality in comparison to the Samsung camera drivers. The camera for me is the primary reasons for upgrading from the S4. This is the first Android phone I will own where I'm not that bothered about non-stock roms being available, TW isn't as offensive as it used to be and it's improved even further on the S5.
As for the question, the open source nature of the Snapdragon architecture will almost certainly result in AOKP/AOSP/CM based roms becoming available, and the locked bootloaders on the American carriers will be overcome eventually. Just don't expect it to happen immediately or for that many of them to appear as the majority of reputable developers will probably be avoiding the S5 after the Knox debacle. Which is a shame but understandable, Samsung have really f**ked up with Knox. I wouldn't be getting an S5 if it wasn't for being offered a deal that was too good to turn down.

No Spen for 5.1.1 [HLTE/TMO/SPR/VZW][ROM][CM12.1][5.1.1_r26] Temasek's UNOFFICIAL

Hi everybody
After flashing rom 5.1.1 from [HLTE/TMO/SPR/VZW][ROM][CM12.1][5.1.1_r26] Temasek's UNOFFICIAL Build v18.4, i can't find anything relates s pen, s note, air command. It means that i can use s pen function. Can anyone tell me : does 5.1.1 support s pen?
Thanks so much.
Regards.
All im gonna say is wow !!!
sorry, i don't understand what your mean ?
no you can't use spen with cm roms, you may need to download third party apps or any mods, like trying to install moded spen air command.
He thought maybe Samsung made cm.
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Support? Yes and No. Cyanogen Mod supports S Pen with some apps, honestly I have no interest about CM and stuffs, but you can ask on that particular ROM's thread which apps you might use as replacement to S Note and all that. And by no I mean the integration is nowhere near as flawless as it is on TouchWiz based ROMs, but then again that's quite normal.
MINH19051991 said:
Hi everybody
After flashing rom 5.1.1 from [HLTE/TMO/SPR/VZW][ROM][CM12.1][5.1.1_r26] Temasek's UNOFFICIAL Build v18.4, i can't find anything relates s pen, s note, air command. It means that i can use s pen function. Can anyone tell me : does 5.1.1 support s pen?
Thanks so much.
Regards.
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Let me explain.
The official firmware made by Samsung is called TouchWiz, and there are ROMs based on it, and all of the functionality of the device is kept by flashing such a ROM.
Downsides: as much as the developers here making TouchWiz ROMs are trying, TouchWiz' innate lag is close to impossible to deal with, and people who cannot simply stomach that, flash AOSP ROMs.
AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project: code provided by Google themselves, which allows developers to create a ROM based off pure Android.
Which means that when you flash an AOSP ROM (Cyanogenmod, Tema's version of CM, Resurrection Remix, Slim, etc.), you are flashing a ROM that basically turns your device into a Nexus.
Nexus phones don't have S-Pen.
Pure Android doesn't support it.
Anything you found on TouchWiz as functionality CAN be achieved to some extent on an AOSP ROM by flashing various mods and installing apps and frameworks and whatnot, but it will not work as well as on TouchWiz.
So my suggestion is that if you use S-Pen regularly, you will want it with it's full functionality, and for that you find a TouchWiz based ROM, we have a couple of good ones. AryaMod, Audax, various ports of the Note 4 and Note 5...
If you go AOSP on the other hand, your phone will be A LOT faster and more responsive, but you will find a hard time restoring some S-Pen functionality with it.
Yeah, well let me state some FACTS here as well, in case some amateur completely misses the main flaw in the above post.
Yes, TouchWiz lags, that's beyond any question, but who said flashing a Cyanogen ROM turns your device to a Nexus phone? That's beyond ridiculous! AOSP is great, fast, stable, as good as Android could and should be. But Cyanogen isn't that! It's based on AOSP, but with plenty of bugs, and not tiny bugs either. I don't have any time or interest about pointing them out, but just Googling will reveal them.
A Nexus is a Nexus, which runs on naked Android without any sort of customisation whatsoever, which is called AOSP. A Cyanogen port can never have same stability or bug free nature like a AOSP ROM, N E V E R. Now I honestly don't care if some troll or fanboy comes and say there are no bugs, well that's as usual hilarious. You have to have use a stable and bug free thing first to notice or comment on which are bug free, which are not, LOL!
This is the actual sum up:
TouchWiz: Stable, slow, laggy sometimes (when people say the lag is impossible to bear, well that's when you should find your dictionary and look up for the word 'exaggerate'), but with every feature possible, needless to say S Pen integration is excellent.
Cyanogen mod/ or any AOSP port: Turn your Note 3 to something other than Note 3. ROM will be faster than TouchWiz, but again, it's not that fast that it would make a world's difference, and you lose all the Samsung features, and some of them are quite important ones, and there are bugs, some of them are quite important as well, like poor call quality or degraded photo/ video quality! But then again there will always be people who don't call form their "mobile phone" or snap any photos, and then there is the S Pen. But look at the bright side, you can now scratch your ear with it.
At the same time, I would prefer if Samsung moves to clean Android like Motorola or Sony, keeping some of their useful apps like S Note, Messaging an Dialler app etc., cause there is no real point of having a totally heavy kinda skin on top of Android when the main Android is pretty good itself. They can add a bunch of apps, they don't necessarily need to add a whole framework for that.
Thanks everybody so much i choosed tazzy-audora rom. This is great rom

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