Coming from a Galaxy Nexus, my main concern is - How are the black levels gonna be? I absolutely LOVE SuperAMOLED - Mainly, the blacks - I LOVE THEM and I'm sure many other users do. I don't know if the LG's black levels are gonna be as good or better? Does anything know that?
I have a choice to jump from the Gnex to the Nex4 but if the screen's black levels aren't as good - I probably won't.
What's your opinion about the screen?
Go look at a One X, it'll be similar to that (which is SO much better than the GNex screen - IPS ftw!!)
Yeah but the black levels
It definitely won't be as good. The question is, will it be good enough.
The apparent high end screen on my laptop has a rubbish black level. So I'm also hoping the Nexus 10 has good blacks, so I can use that for media instead.
But did you look at the Htc One X screen, or atleast youtube it?
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Yeah I've used the One X a lot of times and I'm not impressed at all. The color reproduction is good but the black levels don't amaze me, at all. I feel that my nexus' screen is much better than the OneX (Just my opinion, don't pounce on me)
With AMOLED, the blacks are black because the led's are switched off, it doesn't try make the colour "Black".
LCD screens do not do this. So blacks will be grey, but colours and viewing angles WILL be better. Another thing, AMOLED is a battery drain with anything other than the colour black.
OLED screens will always have darker blacks than LCDs. That's just due to the nature of how each type of screen technology works.
I very much know how AMOLED works. Guess the blacks won't be that good on the Nex4. :| Hard decision to make now :\
arzbhatia said:
I very much know how AMOLED works. Guess the blacks won't be that good on the Nex4. :| Hard decision to make now :\
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But your question meant that you don't. If you know this, then you should know about LCD too...
arzbhatia said:
I very much know how AMOLED works. Guess the blacks won't be that good on the Nex4. :| Hard decision to make now :\
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They will probably be as good as any IPS LCD on the market. LG makes very good smartphone displays, including iPhone 4/4S/5 displays.
Just look at the present ips screen on the LG top model phones, i'm sure the nexus 4 will be similar.
The blacks will not be the same as others mentioned but it's a tradeoff. Super amoleds have good contrast and blacks but the ips lcd's I've seen had better color accuracy and sharper images. I like amoleds but the whites and other colors aren't that good and the brightness isn't high enough for my taste. I look forward to seeing the n4 up close
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I have mixed feelings as well regarding the screen of the new Nexus 4. I also own a Galaxy Nexus, and aside from the black levels, there is another area where the AMOLED screens shine: motion handling. LCDs tend to blur images in fast motion, motion resolution isn't usually very good. This is very noticeable when watching action films or sports, for example.
However, AMOLED screens are very fast thus their motion handling is on par (or even better than) with plasmas, which gives you crisp and clear images even when moving (blur ocurring depending on the shooting conditions but that's a whole different story).
So, to summarize the differences between the screens:
- The screen of the Nexus 4 will be slightly clearer, the pentile matrix used in the AMOLED screen makes it slightly more "blurry", although due to its high pixel density that's usually hard to see.
- The screen of the Galaxy Nexus has perfect blacks, the screen of the Nexus 4 doesn't. The point is, will its blacks be "black enough" even for multimedia? "Black enough" is very subjective...
- The screen of the Nexus 4 will probably handle motion worse than the Galaxy Nexus one. The point again will be if it handles motion well enough.
It seems that the screen of the Nexus 4 is slightly better for reading and web browsing but slightly worse for multimedia. I only have a Galaxy Nexus (no access to HTC One X, etc) so anyway I can't really compare.
Well it all depend on taste. I think the IPS screen for me will be better for contents consumption. Text clarity is a very important factor for phones and RGB array IPS excel here. Better color accuracy is the most important factor for me, without the banding, retention and dark spots that I deal with on AMOLED. I only fear of the chance of backlight leakage that can happen with regular LCD.
I know the response time of the OLED screen have very fast, but I don't do heavy gaming on small mobile devices. It also have ultra wide angle view and wider color gamut (poorly tuned however). I also like its performance outdoor and contrast. But it can be s battery eater.
Also I missed the curved glass of the AMOLED screen, before anyone say the Nexus 4 screen is curved, by what I see from the verge video it isn't, only the external glass seems to be and just a little by the edge, not the same effect.
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eksasol said:
Well it all depend on taste. I think the IPS screen for me will be better for contents consumption. Text clarity is a very important factor for phones and RGB array IPS excel here. Better color accuracy is the most important factor for me, without the banding, retention and dark spots that I deal with on AMOLED. I only fear of the chance of backlight leakage that can happen with regular LCD.
I know the response time of the OLED screen have very fast, but I don't do heavy gaming on small mobile devices. It also have ultra wide angle view and wider color gamut (poorly tuned however). I also like its performance outdoor and contrast. But it can be s battery eater.
Also I missed the curved glass of the AMOLED screen, before anyone say the Nexus 4 screen is curved, by what I see from the verge video it isn't, only the external glass seems to be and just a little by the edge, not the same effect.
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The Nexus 4 will have better viewing angles than the AMOLED.
Sunlight will probably be better too. Colours will be more realistic, and battery life will be lower apart from on a black screen.
I don't like the oversaturated colors of amoled screens, and true colors are important in my work, so I much prefer a good IPS screen. Too bad about the blacks though.
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I hope the Nexus 4 display will be better. On my Gnex whenever I watch videos with dark scenes or blackground, I get this noise/artifact thing in the background. Do you guys get that? Also, black is technically not completely black on the Gnex because the pixels do light up a little for faster switching. There are a few threads in the Gnex forum that talk about that. It is only noticeable when there is very little or no ambient light. You can test it by going to a dark room and open an image that is completely black. You will see some dim light coming out from the AMOLED.
I would have to say my biggest concern is how the screen will perform in the direct sunlight. Of the phones I've had the gnex does best in direct sunlight. Very easily readable and use able in direct sunlight. All my other phones have been washed out in the sun. They where some form of lcd's, but not any of the newer generation super performing lcd's that are out now. The HTC Rezound I had was the best LCD screen I've owned. Amazing picture but suffered in the sun.
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I hope the Nexus 4 display will be better. On my Gnex whenever I watch videos with dark scenes or blackground, I get this noise/artifact thing in the background. Do you guys get that? Also, black is technically not completely black on the Gnex because the pixels do light up a little for faster switching. There are a few threads in the Gnex forum that talk about that. It is only noticeable when there is very little or no ambient light. You can test it by going to a dark room and open an image that is completely black. You will see some dim light coming out from the AMOLED.
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I think that's either black crush like the original note had or the black spots which nearly all amoled screens get because of the way they are produced.
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I am currently using Galaxy Nexus, its screen brightness is kind of average nowadays.... Just OK indoors and barely visible outdoors (but feels fine to me)
I tried to switch to Galaxy Note II last fall but hated its screen low brightness, it felt for me like a mirror, reflecting all that light from lamps indoors. Also, I hated fingerprints on it which were visible with the screen on.
I have just read a lot of reviews about SGS 4, that the screen brightness is even lower and it is impossible to see anything outdoors and perhaps it has the same problems of reflecting lights that I hated with Note 2.
Sorry for my English, I hope you understand what I mean
Was already prepared to buy SGS 4 Nexus edition but now I am really concerned about the screen
Probably going to wait for the next motorola devices
There are brighter screens out there but it's a lot better than some say. Unfortunately the auto brightness doesn't work too well which effects some people's opinion a little too easily I suspect despite the fact it's a software issue which will undoubtedly be improved.
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So I just got one and I'm somewhat surprised with the viewing angles of the display. Brightness and/or color shifts with just a few degree angle move. Is it normal? I don't really care about the fact that the screen looks good at 180 angle, but color differences with slight move do annoy me (it makes left and right eye see different image)
I tried to catch the brightness/color difference in photos (see attachments)
You are serious?
It is just the type of display it is.. Have never noticed this and think viewing angles are very good for a tablet like this. I mean it is a 7 inch tablet.. I think most hold it in front.
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What are folk's opinion who have this phone already?
One of my use cases is on a car dashboard for navigation, so max available screen brightness can be an issue.
How does it compare with, say, a Nexus 4 (if you had one) as that's what I would be coming from?
It's the brightest display I've seen other than a Note 4. The Nexus 4 is much dimmer!
Daylight readbility is excellent, the screen is very bright. This is an excellent everyday phone
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Daylight readbility is excellent, the screen is very bright. This is an excellent everyday phone
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It has very bright screen, i have compared it to Galaxy S6 and brighter is on Moto Play. Great phone.
Someone with a Lux-meter needs to take some measurements, similar to this video youtu.be/0fUKa2NCxeA?t=163
An important factor outdoors especially is the distance from the display itself and the glass protecting it.
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Someone with a Lux-meter needs to take some measurements, similar to this video youtu.be/0fUKa2NCxeA?t=163
An important factor outdoors especially is the distance from the display itself and the glass protecting it.
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notebookcheck.net measured up to 641 cd/m² of brightness and contrast was 1603:1
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Motorola-Moto-X-Play-Smartphone-Review.150511.0.html
"The Galaxy Note 7 provides many major and important state-of-the-art display enhancements, with mobile OLED display technology now advancing faster than ever," Soneira said. "The Galaxy Note 7 is the most innovative and high-performance smartphone display that we have ever tested."
CNET: http://bit.ly/2bczClL
Displaymate :http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note7_ShootOut_1.htm
I thought it was the exact same screen as the S7 Edge. Am I wrong? Also, Sony came out with a 4K screen; that's better than the N7 screen, right? Not arguing, just trying to understand.
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I thought it was the exact same screen as the S7 Edge. Am I wrong? Also, Sony came out with a 4K screen; that's better than the N7 screen, right? Not arguing, just trying to understand.
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No, it isn't the same screen at all.
Resolution isn't everything. No human is able to discern the difference between 4K and 1440p on a display of this size at the distance we use phones from, so that's just marketing fluff. Subpixel rendering (as found on the N7) is also a pretty big improvement over most (but not all) competitors' screens.
Read through the article - I know it's long, but it'll make things very clear as to why some screens are better than others, and specifically why the N7's screen is better than the S7E's.
All you need to do is look at the two together in direct sunlight and you can see they are not the same screen. My son has my old GS6, and he was struggling in Pokemon Go yesterday, but my Note 7 may as well have been indoors it was so bright. Comparing the GS7E to the Note 7, just from a laymans view, the GN7 is clearly brighter as well in direct light, goes dimmer in the dark while maintaining readability, and the new dual ambient sensors change the brightness nearly instantaneously. The blue light filter is a nice touch as well, although I am not sure I will keep using it.
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I thought it was the exact same screen as the S7 Edge. Am I wrong? Also, Sony came out with a 4K screen; that's better than the N7 screen, right? Not arguing, just trying to understand.
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nope not the same as the s7 edge screen.
I got both phone and as soon as i tunr on the note 7 i could tell.
The screen is very nice. Clear and bright. I am sure its the best samsung cellphone screen that is out todate.
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All you need to do is look at the two together in direct sunlight and you can see they are not the same screen. My son has my old GS6, and he was struggling in Pokemon Go yesterday, but my Note 7 may as well have been indoors it was so bright. Comparing the GS7E to the Note 7, just from a laymans view, the GN7 is clearly brighter as well in direct light, goes dimmer in the dark while maintaining readability, and the new dual ambient sensors change the brightness nearly instantaneously. The blue light filter is a nice touch as well, although I am not sure I will keep using it.
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I've noticed that the dual ambient light sensor makes for very accurate and fast brightness changes, too. On every other phone I've owned I've had to install Lux... but Samsung duplicated most of its functionality, and upgraded the hardware to make it even more accurate.