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This is a big concern of mine. I love the specs of the n1 but I've read that nothing can be seen on the screen in direct sunlight. I'd buy an HTC HD2 because I can even read books in sunlight with it but they stick with the win mobile and I like to have an android phone. So what do you say about n1 screen quality in comparison to the htc hd2 screen?
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This is a big concern of mine. I love the specs of the n1 but I've read that nothing can be seen on the screen in direct sun light. I'd buy an HTC HD2 because I can even read books in sunlight with it but they stick with the win mobile and I like to have an android phone. So what do you say about n1 screen quality?
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The only people who say this are people who don't know how to use the phone. Basically there is an automatic brightness option that changes the brightness based on how bright it is around the phone. Unfortunately, it seems like this feature always keeps the screen fairly dim, so I don't like it.
I have this feature disabled at all times and keep my phone at maximum brightness. It looks perfectly fine in sunlight.
People who say the screen doesn't work in sunlight don't know how to disable this feature (ie don't know how to use Android / change simple settings).
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I have this feature disabled at all times and keep my phone at maximum brightness. It looks perfectly fine in sunlight.
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I've seen an app on an htc hd2 that changes the brightness automatically but one can adjust the brightness for specific surround conditions (i.e it looks like a graphical equalizer). I do not own the phone but I was told that this app works quite good. Is there something similar for the n1?
I can attest the screen pretty much sucks in sunligh at full brightness. The beaming sun in south florida is relentless.
Yeah, the N1 is hard to read in the bright sun and its not just pooping on stupid people that dont understand computerz or a simple setting that fixes it, it just gives glare in the sun.
Most phones/screens, regardless of their technology, are difficult to see in direct sunlight. But then, why are you trying to read the screen in direct sunlight? Just turn the other way, or shield it with your hand. Not that hard to figure out, really.
I use the automatic light sensor all the time. The only time is gets confused is is in a dim room, bright source (window, lamp) directly in front of the sensor. You have to realize what the sensor is seeing. Often times it's seeing light reflected off your face, hence the up/down/up/down of the screen brightness.
I honestly don't see either as issues with the phone, but the users rather.
I've had no problems using my Nexus One in direct sunlight.
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I've had no problems using my Nexus One in direct sunlight.
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really? i will be honest, i cannot see **** in direct sunlight unless i have the brightness all the way up... and that screen on full brightness is a battery hog...
I have no major probs with mine in direct sunlight, it's not that much different to the G1. I'm sure there are phones with better screens for direct sunlight but it's far from unusable.
The auto brightness feature works fine, you just have to wait a couple of seconds for it to adjust. Only people who don't know how to use the phone disable it and waste all their battery.
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really? i will be honest, i cannot see **** in direct sunlight unless i have the brightness all the way up... and that screen on full brightness is a battery hog...
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Really. I usually leave the screen set to auto, on the odd occasion I've had to turn it up to the brightest setting, but as the last poster said usually it'll catch up and turn the brightness up itself.
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I have no major probs with mine in direct sunlight, it's not that much different to the G1. I'm sure there are phones with better screens for direct sunlight but it's far from unusable.
The auto brightness feature works fine, you just have to wait a couple of seconds for it to adjust. Only people who don't know how to use the phone disable it and waste all their battery.
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Or people who don't have any problem with the battery? With my use the battery lasts for 20+ hours, which is more than enough time for me to get to a charger again.
I always have the brightness at max and have had it that way for all the phones I've had (where you can set the brightness). If I'm gonna be more than a day without charging it I'll of course turn it down, but it's far from a neccesity for day to day use.
Just checked my phone and it's been off the charger for 16 hours and I still have 53% left on the battery.
Brightness in the direct Thai sunlight is fully adequate. The only problem I've had is that in direct sunlight, everything else is well lit, and so reflects off the screen.
Brightness: no problem
Reflection off the screen: annoying.
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The only people who say this are people who don't know how to use the phone. Basically there is an automatic brightness option that changes the brightness based on how bright it is around the phone. Unfortunately, it seems like this feature always keeps the screen fairly dim, so I don't like it.
I have this feature disabled at all times and keep my phone at maximum brightness. It looks perfectly fine in sunlight.
People who say the screen doesn't work in sunlight don't know how to disable this feature (ie don't know how to use Android / change simple settings).
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False. I know this phone well and disabled the auto brightness within 20 minutes of owning the phone. As much as I love my N1, and would not trade it for any phone, the amazing OMLED screen is one of the worst screens I've used as far as clarity in direct sunlight. This is not an N1 problem, but a problem with OLED screens in general. Assuming the new iPhone that should be released in June will have an OLED screen, it will have the same problem in direct sunlight.
You can buy anti-glare screen protectors that help this problem, but you do sacrifice some of the stunning brightness and clarity of the N1 screen in regular viewing conditions.
There is no way I would trade the N1 screen for the likes of the iPhone screen as the benefits of the OLED screen in non-direct sunlight viewing far outweighs the difficulty seeing the screen in direct sunlight. In fact, the N1 screen is probably its most impressive feature (aside from its blazing speed).
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the amazing OMLED screen is one of the worst screens I've used as far as clarity in direct sunlight. This is not an N1 problem, but a problem with OLED screens in general. Assuming the new iPhone that should be released in June will have an OLED screen, it will have the same problem in direct sunlight.
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of cause this is the n1 problem and yours in the end! How are you suppose to take pictures with the n1 if you see nothing on the screen? How you suppose to dial a number if you see nothing on the screen? Saying this is not the phone to blame but the screen manufacturing process sounds stupid to me.
I have never in my life encountered an electronic device with a screen that was perfectly readable in direct sunlight, that is to say, as readable as indoors (not even my laptop plugged in the mains and set to full brightness). Reason: no screen technology can provide as much brightness as the sun. Solution: accept it, and cover the screen with one hand while you use the device with the other....
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of cause this is the n1 problem and yours in the end! How are you suppose to take pictures with the n1 if you see nothing on the screen? How you suppose to dial a number if you see nothing on the screen? Saying this is not the phone to blame but the screen manufacturing process sounds stupid to me.
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take pictures: look over the device and hit the shutter button..
input: open you jacket and form the number while providing shadow with it, or provide shadow with one hand while forming the number with the other. It's a fact that you need to accept, period.
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Here is a video I found, it basically compares the N1's screen in sunlight to the Droid's screen at three different brightness levels. Enjoy.
youtube. com/watch?v=YwyJq6oF4wE
note, since I'm new I can't post links... just remove the space
The screen is really nice in normal light but yeah it sucks in the sunlight LOL Probably depends where you live but in sunny South Florida it's a pain sometimes. Doesn't matter which direction you turn definitely have to shield it with your hand and it's still pretty hard to read. I'm looking into getting an anti glare screen protector for it to see how that helps. The display is absolutely beautiful but i'm starting to think maybe oled isn't the best technology for cell phone screens
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The main difference between the screen technology in the N1 and most other phones is that on the N1, as I understand it, each pixel emits its own light (OLED = Organic Light Emitting Diode) as opposed to a 'liquid' film lighted from the back (LCD = Liquid Crystal Display). The only technology that I know of that will work well in direct sunlight is e-ink.
It is not likely that a pixel or a backlight could ever reasonably compete with direct sunlight, but on an LCD screen it is possible for the sunlight to reflect off the back layer or to hold the device is a certain angle to 'perhap's see the image better in sunlight then on the OLED type display.
However, having the N1 myself, I have found that I am able to shade the display in full Southern California Sunlight well enough to function with the device. The OLED display is much too gorgious to give up for LCD in my opinion.
i haven't seen the nexus 4 with my own eyes yet, but almost all reviewers say that the screen on the nexus 4 is wayy better than the one on the gnex, i still use the gnex as my primary phone, the screen is pretty amazing, especially in terms of color because amoled screen has oversaturated color, but it's not as real as lcd, my question is : is the screen on the nexus 4 really is that amazing and real? i prefer oversaturated color than natural color though, it looks "eye-catching" how about the black lvl on the nexus 4 ? lcd screen doesn't have the deep black color that amoled screen has...yes i know gnex screen is pentile, but i still can't see the pixels, unless you look really close to the display which makes your eyes hurt
if you think that im bashing nexus 4 because i don't have it, no your totally wrong, as matter of fact, if someone would give one to me, i would take it with pleasure
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i haven't seen the nexus 4 with my own eyes yet, but almost all reviewers say that the screen on the nexus 4 is wayy better than the one on the gnex, i still use the gnex as my primary phone, the screen is pretty amazing, especially in terms of color because amoled screen has oversaturated color, but it's not as real as lcd, my question is : is the screen on the nexus 4 really is that amazing and real? i prefer oversaturated color than natural color though, it looks "eye-catching" how about the black lvl on the nexus 4 ? lcd screen doesn't have the deep black color that amoled screen has...yes i know gnex screen is pentile, but i still can't see the pixels, unless you look really close to the display which makes your eyes hurt
if you think that im bashing nexus 4 because i don't have it, no your totally wrong, as matter of fact, if someone would give one to me, i would take it with pleasure
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You said you like oversaturated colors better, so you'll definitely like the gnex screen better. Blacks aren't as blacks as the gnex.
Blacks look pretty good on the Nexus 4 for an LCD screen. I also like vibrant colors and while these aren't quite pop like an AMOLED display, I think they are still good.
It's hard for me to say if it's better than the Galaxy Nexus. I think I might have a problem with my Nexus 4, because I can see very fine horizontal lines on my phone, kinda like the screen door effect on a monitor. I asked about it on the general board and it got very little response, so I'm guessing it's not a common issue.
[A] It is a LCD and not an OLED with pentile matrix, so: Yes! (better = more accurate. better != more saturated)
Yes, it is. Enough said.
I like the over-saturated colours of AMOLED screens. When I went from the Desire (AMOLED) to the Incredible (LCD), I was super disappointed.
However, going from the GNex to the N4, I have to say that the screen is better. Things I've noticed:
- Yes, the blacks aren't as black. If you use it as a bedside clock (in a dock or something), you'll notice more backlight coming through
- The N4 colours are more accurate (pretty standard result compared to AMOLED), but they do have some nice punch to them - much better than a lot of LCD screens I've seen and certainly almost holding it's own compared to AMOLED.
- Comparing side by side - it became apparent that the GNex is horrible at whites. I hadn't noticed whilst owning it, but side by side, the GNex whites look yellowy. In comparison, the whites on the N4 are almost blinding. Again, I never noticed this from the Gnex whilst owning it - I was perfectly happy.
In summary, I'd say the screen is better, but the night clock greyer blacks issue might be an irritant for you. Otherwise, it's N4 all the way.
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I like the over-saturated colours of AMOLED screens. When I went from the Desire (AMOLED) to the Incredible (LCD), I was super disappointed.
However, going from the GNex to the N4, I have to say that the screen is better. Things I've noticed:
- Yes, the blacks aren't as black. If you use it as a bedside clock (in a dock or something), you'll notice more backlight coming through
- The N4 colours are more accurate (pretty standard result compared to AMOLED), but they do have some nice punch to them - much better than a lot of LCD screens I've seen and certainly almost holding it's own compared to AMOLED.
- Comparing side by side - it became apparent that the GNex is horrible at whites. I hadn't noticed whilst owning it, but side by side, the GNex whites look yellowy. In comparison, the whites on the N4 are almost blinding. Again, I never noticed this from the Gnex whilst owning it - I was perfectly happy.
In summary, I'd say the screen is better, but the night clock greyer blacks issue might be an irritant for you. Otherwise, it's N4 all the way.
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after calibrating my gnex with trinity kernel, white is very white on my gnex, i think it's just a matter of color calibration
Comparing the 2 side-by-side the N4 wins hands down. I really don't see how I put up with that GNex screen as long as I did.
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Blacks look pretty good on the Nexus 4 for an LCD screen. I also like vibrant colors and while these aren't quite pop like an AMOLED display, I think they are still good.
It's hard for me to say if it's better than the Galaxy Nexus. I think I might have a problem with my Nexus 4, because I can see very fine horizontal lines on my phone, kinda like the screen door effect on a monitor. I asked about it on the general board and it got very little response, so I'm guessing it's not a common issue.
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I have the same issue with my Nexus 4, faint horizontal banding across the entire display. It's difficult to see on whites and blacks, but pretty much every color in-
between it's fairly obvious. It's also terrible when watching videos.
I called Google yesterday after I received the phone and they're shipping out a replacement (props to Google support, btw). It's definitely not normal, and I would urge you to call in and get a replacement sent your way ASAP. Even if you think you can "live with it", there's no guarantee that it's not indicative of a larger screen issue that might get worse.
I've loved amoled displays ever since I got my galaxy s and I've been using only amoled since then (galaxy s, s2, gnex), so I was apprehensive about whether I'd like the nexus 4 screen or not.
But after just a day of use, I can safely say I'll probably stick to LCD from now on. I never imagined I'd like the screen this much. Its one of the best things about the phone.
The whites are beautiful, the blacks are very good for an LCD and look just as black as my gnex when seen in daylight/well lit environments. In dark situations the blacks aren't as good but it doesn't matter because the display still looks gorgeous. And BTW I had trinity kernel as well. Trust me, no calibration could ever get the gnex to have whites this gorgeous.
I never had an issue with pentile before but once you use a non pentile display like this, the difference is very apparent. Its so much sharper and crisper from any distance.
And the colors just look nicer as well. Looking at my dads gnex screen after this actually makes me wonder how I ever liked colors that way.
Another reason the nexus 4 screen looks so beautiful is because gradients are actually smooth. After years of looking at amoled gradients, this is a huge and welcome change.
And its great having the screen so much closer to the surface of the glass.
The only downside to the nexus 4 screen are the viewing angles. Definitely not as nice as the gnex. I can't lie down and look at my screen diagonally anymore :/ The one x doesn't have this issue so I guess its LGs fault and not an LCD related problem.
All in all, you won't regret it. No matter how much you've loved amoled. You'll finally understand what all the hype around LCDs is about. And they were right.
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Nexus 4 screen appears more upscale compared to GNex. The text looks more precise. Photos look more realistic. Color reproduction is much more accurate vs GNex and there is no infamous purple tint.
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Oh man that god awful purple tint:crying:
The Nexus 4 is the first Nexus phone with a good screen, in my opinion. Tossing AMOLED and PenTile to the curb was the best decision Google's made since buying Android. Visibility in daylight is somewhat better but still not great. The color isn't as eye-popping, which is a good thing; AMOLED is obnoxious to look at. As for the black levels, IIRC AnandTech did a comparison and found that Nexus 4 has the best contrast ratio and best black level of any LCD-based smartphone, which sounds about right to me. Black levels are IMHO very close to AMOLED. To get these black levels though it appears they had to sacrifice peak brightness, where Nexus 4 is only average. White balance and color calibration is decent, though not iDevice-good. Pixel response speed is noticeably better than GNex. Also you need not worry about uneven wear (burn-in) since LCD isn't susceptible to this. This new screen is infinitely better overall. I do graphics design work as a hobby, if that's worth anything.
The new screen is much more battery efficient as well. Last weekend, my N4 lasted for 14 hours of very heavy use before I plugged it into the charger, and of that time the screen was on for 5h44m. With the remaining 9% or so I could've made it to 6h, but it was extremely late at night and I was about to pass out from exhaustion at that point. My GNex lasted 4h at best, even under very light load.
Yesterday I used it on a road trip with about 2 hours of screen-on + navigation + music streaming, plus another hour of regular use. In total it lasted 7h24m before ithe battery reached critical and I plugged it in. Coming from a GNex, that's phenomenal. I would be lucky to get 2 hours of navigation alone.
The speed its HSPA connection is great! I hit 13 mbps yesterday, about 3x faster than I ever got on my GNex. The device itself, needless to say, is as fast as it gets. This is very cutting-edge hardware and Android post-4.1 is a beast.
This is by far the best device I've owned. The glass back was an odd choice and the lack of USB Host is disappointing, but those are the only two faults I can come up with. If it was more expensive I'd fault it for having only 16 GB of storage, but with the price considered, it's adequate. Hopefully the USB Host issue will be addressed by some clever developers somehow, but it's probably unlikely.
Everyone who's owned a SIII knows the screen is completly useless when it comes to the sun being shined at it. Cannot see anything. What about the S4? Same issue? Just curious about to buy one
Also how's the screen for you all? =)
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I haven't found it too bad, I have found the auto brightness to adjust really well. It hasn't been too sunny here though
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Shoulon said:
Everyone who's owned a SIII knows the screen is completly useless when it comes to the sun being shined at it. Cannot see anything. What about the S4? Same issue? Just curious about to buy one
Also how's the screen for you all? =)
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I don't have an S4 yet but a report by displaymate a couple of days ago showed that when you have auto brightness turned on the AMOLED screen is just as bright as the brightest LCDs out there (around 475 nits). Of course you can't set this amount of brightness manually since you would overheat your phone and cause screen burn in if you did. That is why Samsung only allows this for when you have on auto brightness. Since as soon as you go back indoors it will lower the brightness back down.
Long time S3 user (launch) and just picked up the S4 yesterday. The screen, in terms of quality, offers a noticeable improvement over the S3. I migrated everything over from one phone to the other and there's no mistaking which is which. The total difference, however, is less than the difference we saw going in the S2->S3 IMO.
In bright light, unfortunately, they're basically the same as far as I can tell. The auto-brightness setting seems more conservative on the S4 (possibly to help with thermal issues), but I haven't had a chance to crank it up all the way out in the sun.
If screen brightness matters a lot to you, I urge you to take a look at the EVO. The LCD screen on that is much improved, extremely bright as usually, and the blacks are getting considerably blacker (see anantech review). I myself played with it for a half hour but quickly jumped back on the S4 since it fits me better.
I've owned every galaxy phone since the galaxy epic. (Sprint qwerty phone) AMOLED screens are great despite no anti glare features.
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Screen is great until your moving grey on a black background and then you have weird purple smears going on. Not sure if it's a faulty display or just 'how it's meant to be'
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The screen is stunning! Extremely sharp with smooth text and eye popping colours, its basically like Apple's Retina display on iP5 but with AMOLED benefits on top.
In sunlight it fares well from my experience, better than S3, IMO, its a lot less reflective.
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So I exchanged my first Nexus 7 because 1 dead pixel (build date 2013.10), got my second one with horrible multitouch problems and several dead pixels (build date 2013.08), my third one with multitouch problems and 8 dead pixels! and dust under the screen (build date 2013.09) and now on my 4th one (build date 2013.10).
- no multitouch problems;
- hardware is perfect, no dust under screen, no scratches, nothing (the first nexus also had some dust under the front facing camera);
- no dead pixels;
- but...it has in my opinion al lot of screen bleeding
Now, the question is, should I return this unit, I have made some pics in the dark with 100% brightness, what do you guys think of it?
edit: the bleeding is always seen on a black background during the evening (when its dark with normal house lights on), not so much in daylight. However the bleeding is seen even on 20% or 30% brightness, only if I turn on the automatic brightness things get a little better and the bleeding is minimised to the point that I am less bothered by it. Ooh and when I look at it from a different (a rather extreme) angle it also changes, so I guess it is some sort of glow
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So I exchanged my first Nexus 7 because 1 dead pixel (build date 2013.10), got my second one with horrible multitouch problems and several dead pixels (build date 2013.08), my third one with multitouch problems and 8 dead pixels! and dust under the screen (build date 2013.09) and now on my 4th one (build date 2013.10).
- no multitouch problems;
- hardware is perfect, no dust under screen, no scratches, nothing (the first nexus also had some dust under the front facing camera);
- no dead pixels;
- but...it has in my opinion al lot of screen bleeding
Now, the question is, should I return this unit, I have made some pics in the dark with 100% brightness, what do you guys think of it?
edit: the bleeding is always seen on a black background during the evening (when its dark with normal house lights on), not so much in daylight. However the bleeding is seen even on 20% or 30% brightness, only if I turn on the automatic brightness things get a little better and the bleeding is minimised to the point that I am less bothered by it. Ooh and when I look at it from a different (a rather extreme) angle it also changes, so I guess it is some sort of glow
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Oh....c`mon dude...if you want perfect blacks buy something with AMOLED display.I had that backlight bleeding on my Nexus 4,LG G2,Acer CloudMobile and even on Nexus 7(2013).I think this is normal for IPS displays.It`s just my opinion.But i`ve never seen a IPS screen wich renders perfect blacks like AMOLED.On my Nexus 7(2013) the white spot on the black is not that evident.I will make some pictures when I get home and post them here just for comparison with your pictures.
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So I exchanged my first Nexus 7 because 1 dead pixel (build date 2013.10), got my second one with horrible multitouch problems and several dead pixels (build date 2013.08), my third one with multitouch problems and 8 dead pixels! and dust under the screen (build date 2013.09) and now on my 4th one (build date 2013.10).
- no multitouch problems;
- hardware is perfect, no dust under screen, no scratches, nothing (the first nexus also had some dust under the front facing camera);
- no dead pixels;
- but...it has in my opinion al lot of screen bleeding
Now, the question is, should I return this unit, I have made some pics in the dark with 100% brightness, what do you guys think of it?
edit: the bleeding is always seen on a black background during the evening (when its dark with normal house lights on), not so much in daylight. However the bleeding is seen even on 20% or 30% brightness, only if I turn on the automatic brightness things get a little better and the bleeding is minimised to the point that I am less bothered by it. Ooh and when I look at it from a different (a rather extreme) angle it also changes, so I guess it is some sort of glow
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I have blb in the exact same spots as you, but its less bright and i can not even see it when in a dark room.
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Somehow I don't believe what you're saying.
That much light bleed on 30% brightness? I call bull**** sorry to say.
It's on 100% brightness and it's on a black screen, what the hell did you expected? It's native to IPS screens so either live with it or guy buy a Samsung Tab 7.3 for 250€ with it's amazing hardware and screen. NOT.
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Somehow I don't believe what you're saying.
That much light bleed on 30% brightness? I call bull**** sorry to say.
It's on 100% brightness and it's on a black screen, what the hell did you expected? It's native to IPS screens so either live with it or guy buy a Samsung Tab 7.3 for 250€ with it's amazing hardware and screen. NOT.
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Like I said in the first post "I have made some pics in the dark with 100% brightness, what do you guys think of it?"
The light bleed is indeed visible on 20% or 30% brightness, but of course less than with a 100% brightness. The problem is, everything besides auto-brightness makes it visible. Normally on my other android devices, I turn off auto brightness and leave the brightness on about 25% with the standard widget (with the half moon sign). But on my nexus, I can't do that. The statusbar is always washed out.
The first 3 units didn't have this much bleed, they had very little, not worth mentioning. Also, I am very aware of the fact what I can expect with IPS displays, AMOLED displays (like my galaxy nexus), TN displays (like in my Macbook) and PVA displays (like on my dell 2408fwp). The thing is, this light bleed on my nexus is very obvious and beyond normal. If the light bleed was not so visible under say 60%, I wouldn't care one bit.
The thing is I am very disappointed with the quality of the hardware. I have never in my life returned a gadget more than twice. Normally, if the first one wasn't good, the second one is almost certain perfect. Don't get me wrong, the nexus 7 is a awesome device! But these faulty units ruin it for me.
Maybe bad batch? Mine made in August 2013, nothing wrong
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Like I said in the first post "I have made some pics in the dark with 100% brightness, what do you guys think of it?"
The light bleed is indeed visible on 20% or 30% brightness, but of course less than with a 100% brightness. The problem is, everything besides auto-brightness makes it visible. Normally on my other android devices, I turn off auto brightness and leave the brightness on about 25% with the standard widget (with the half moon sign). But on my nexus, I can't do that. The statusbar is always washed out.
The first 3 units didn't have this much bleed, they had very little, not worth mentioning. Also, I am very aware of the fact what I can expect with IPS displays, AMOLED displays (like my galaxy nexus), TN displays (like in my Macbook) and PVA displays (like on my dell 2408fwp). The thing is, this light bleed on my nexus is very obvious and beyond normal. If the light bleed was not so visible under say 60%, I wouldn't care one bit.
The thing is I am very disappointed with the quality of the hardware. I have never in my life returned a gadget more than twice. Normally, if the first one wasn't good, the second one is almost certain perfect. Don't get me wrong, the nexus 7 is a awesome device! But these faulty units ruin it for me.
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I don't want to sound arrogant or an ass, but I'll tell you what the problem with these threads is(which are alot believe me), light bleed annoyance/any of the other known issues is a personal thing.
And, coming here asking for advice is worthless because it's subjective and won't resolve anything. Everything about your device is up to you or whoever else opens a thread. If you find it bothering, go trade it until you get a unit working fine. Afterall, you payed and you have the right to have a fully working device. If it doesn't bother you that much, don't trade but and don't open a thread about it.
It won't change a thing, whatever people tell you it won't mater.
Good luck.
Hey, I had had 3 Nexus 7 2013s and all of them had light bleed. Even my iPhone 5 (bring on the hate bc i honestly hate my iPhone) has mild light bleed at 100% brightness on boot animation. My father had a Galaxy Note and he was used to flawless blacks and when he got an Xperia SP, he watches badminton matches at night and on loading screens, light leaked out from the sides. He went to Sony but they dismissed the problem
You have to decide how much it bothers you. It's much more than mine (100% bright), but my touch screen isn't what I'd like (like my N5 or even my old Toshiba Thrive).
EDIT: This pic taken of the N7 with my N5 should show better. It is a black background with 100% brightness. Only slight bit of bleed across the top.
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You have to decide how much it bothers you. It's much more than mine (100% bright), but my touch screen isn't what I'd like (like my N5 or even my old Toshiba Thrive).
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You aren't supposed to take a screenshot. You're supposed to put your phone in a dark room and display a fully black pic at 100% brightness
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That was a screenshot of Backlight Bleed test at 100% brightness in a darkroom. I understand that maybe the "screenshot" concept prevented light bleed from showing although both look the same. I'll fix it and re-up or remove it.
"The Galaxy Note 7 provides many major and important state-of-the-art display enhancements, with mobile OLED display technology now advancing faster than ever," Soneira said. "The Galaxy Note 7 is the most innovative and high-performance smartphone display that we have ever tested."
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Displaymate :http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note7_ShootOut_1.htm
I thought it was the exact same screen as the S7 Edge. Am I wrong? Also, Sony came out with a 4K screen; that's better than the N7 screen, right? Not arguing, just trying to understand.
rile1564 said:
I thought it was the exact same screen as the S7 Edge. Am I wrong? Also, Sony came out with a 4K screen; that's better than the N7 screen, right? Not arguing, just trying to understand.
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No, it isn't the same screen at all.
Resolution isn't everything. No human is able to discern the difference between 4K and 1440p on a display of this size at the distance we use phones from, so that's just marketing fluff. Subpixel rendering (as found on the N7) is also a pretty big improvement over most (but not all) competitors' screens.
Read through the article - I know it's long, but it'll make things very clear as to why some screens are better than others, and specifically why the N7's screen is better than the S7E's.
All you need to do is look at the two together in direct sunlight and you can see they are not the same screen. My son has my old GS6, and he was struggling in Pokemon Go yesterday, but my Note 7 may as well have been indoors it was so bright. Comparing the GS7E to the Note 7, just from a laymans view, the GN7 is clearly brighter as well in direct light, goes dimmer in the dark while maintaining readability, and the new dual ambient sensors change the brightness nearly instantaneously. The blue light filter is a nice touch as well, although I am not sure I will keep using it.
rile1564 said:
I thought it was the exact same screen as the S7 Edge. Am I wrong? Also, Sony came out with a 4K screen; that's better than the N7 screen, right? Not arguing, just trying to understand.
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nope not the same as the s7 edge screen.
I got both phone and as soon as i tunr on the note 7 i could tell.
The screen is very nice. Clear and bright. I am sure its the best samsung cellphone screen that is out todate.
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All you need to do is look at the two together in direct sunlight and you can see they are not the same screen. My son has my old GS6, and he was struggling in Pokemon Go yesterday, but my Note 7 may as well have been indoors it was so bright. Comparing the GS7E to the Note 7, just from a laymans view, the GN7 is clearly brighter as well in direct light, goes dimmer in the dark while maintaining readability, and the new dual ambient sensors change the brightness nearly instantaneously. The blue light filter is a nice touch as well, although I am not sure I will keep using it.
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I've noticed that the dual ambient light sensor makes for very accurate and fast brightness changes, too. On every other phone I've owned I've had to install Lux... but Samsung duplicated most of its functionality, and upgraded the hardware to make it even more accurate.