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Wow no lag on the G2. Its so nice to select a button and the screen respond instantly with no lag. GPS locks even in my basement, something which the vibrant couldn't do.
But, (yes there's a but) I'm not sure I like the keyboard and because the screen is smaller, its harder to type on the touchscreen so I'm gonna have to play with this for a few days.
I love the responsiveness of the G2. So much smoother than the vibrant. I do miss the screen and the super light form factor if the vibrant. Kind of miss the SAMOLED screen too.
Samsung please tell me when Froyo will be released to the vibrant?
I will give these to the G2:
-Keyboard is great especially for emulator
-Preloaded Froyo 2.2 means no wait, no uncertainty
-HTC is a great company and has been in the game longer, making high quality hardware.
-HSPA+
What I will miss on my Vibrant is I switch to a G2:
-Native avi, mkv and various other audio/video format support (my biggest selling point).
-AMOLE screen (you should see this coming after point one)
-The more powerful GPU for emulator
-Believe it or not TouchWiz (it really makes life easier in some aspect)
I think both phones caters to a different market, but G2 just seems "developer", it is a GREAT phone, don't get me wrong but it is just very plain in terms of look and specification. It does what every other android phone does but faster because of newer internals. (Vibrant at least brings in container/format support listed above).
A newer handset with newer CPU and GPU is not really considered as a feature because as time pass better hardware means better handset internals, it is inevitable.
The g2 has a chip which reinstalls stock firmware when it senses the firmware has been tampered with. BIG downfall IMO
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
T-Mobile G2 Auto-Reinstalls Stock Android After a Jailbreak
If you were hoping to make any modifications to your T-Mobile G2, my apologies. Because the phone apparently ships with a rootkit that will override any changes you make to Android and reinstall the original firmware. That ain't right.
According to the New America Foundation, "one of the microchips embedded into the G2 prevents device owners from making permanent changes that allow custom modifications to the the Android operating system." The full 40-page blow-by-blow of the Dev Forum's thwarted attempts can be found here.
Between this and Motorola's Droid X eFuse kill switch, there's an unsettling—and growing—arrogance. An attitude that says you may have just paid for your phone, but you don't own it. Because if you truly owned it, you'd be able to modify it however you pleased. It's like buying a car and being told you can't buy new Bridgestones a month later. Or more relevantly, as NAF points out: it's like installing Linux on a Windows computer one night, and waking up to find Vista back in place.
So that G2 you bought? It's not yours. It's HTC and T-Mobile's. You're just borrowing it, and the terms of the loan are entirely non-negotiable. [Dev Forum via New America via Boing Boing]
Send an email to Brian Barrett, the author of this post, at [email protected].
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http://gizmodo.com/5656921/t+mobiles-g2-rootkit-will-reinstall-stock-android-after-a-jailbreak
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My exact thought! Did I NOT say that the G2 would fail!? ahahha people arent going to to like not being able to use custom ROM's etc
So that G2 you bought? It's not yours. It's HTC and T-Mobile's. You're just borrowing it, and the terms of the loan are entirely non-negotiable.
they'll eventually get root for the G2.
That said, with the correct file systems, the Vibrant would tear apart the G2. The Hummingbird is a superior architecture, the GPU is better, the screen is bigger and better, the form factor is thinner and lighter.
But if I thought HSPA+ was going to make a difference, or if I wanted a keyboard, the G2 would win me over. It's a nice feeling phone, and stock Android is always a plus.
Anyone know if the Desire Z is locked down also?
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they'll eventually get root for the G2.
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pretty much this especially since is an HTC phone
The feature that I miss the most from my vibrant is the out of the box ability to play my flac files.
But I think my choice to switch will be a worth wild one.
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The g2 has a chip which reinstalls stock firmware when it senses the firmware has been tampered with. BIG downfall IMO
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I Agree 100%, Vibrant is the best T mobile Android, Samsung outdid everyone on this phone!
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Perhaps you all could help me out with something. I got a G2, and was seriously considering selling my Vibrant. But, in order to give the decision its due diligence, I'd like to see what the Vibrant is like on a custom rom. I have it rooted, with RyanZa's lagifix from the market installed, and was wondering which of the current roms would be best to try out, in order to best evaluate the "pick me" quality of the Vibrant? I'd prefer not to have to wipe everything, if possible. But I'm amenable to, if need be. Thanks, in advance, for your input. I'd certainly appreciate it.
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Perhaps you all could help me out with something. I got a G2, and was seriously considering selling my Vibrant. But, in order to give the decision its due diligence, I'd like to see what the Vibrant is like on a custom rom. I have it rooted, with RyanZa's lagifix from the market installed, and was wondering which of the current roms would be best to try out, in order to best evaluate the "pick me" quality of the Vibrant? I'd prefer not to have to wipe everything, if possible. But I'm amenable to, if need be. Thanks, in advance, for your input. I'd certainly appreciate it.
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LOL, you are going to have to wipe in order to use the best roms
Which would you suggest, based on your experience with them?
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Which would you suggest, based on your experience with them?
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Try Eugene's Frankin-Twiz Rom. The thing flies with JAC's OC/UV Kernal.
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I've tried Franken T-Wiz, and Bionix. I can definitely suggest Bionix. Very quick. Very stable. MUCH better than stock.
With JI6 much of everything is responsive
I appreciate the input. Just to make sure I'm good to go...
I have the RyanZa lagfix installed. Do I/Should I use th e"undo lagfix" option before attempting to flash this rom?
I see that ity wipes automatically. Does that mean it wipes my internal memory card, i.e. any nandroid I backup would be deleted as well? Or is it just like a factory reset, whereby I would just need to restore my contacts, apps, etc.
Again, thank you for your input. It's very helpful.
Ok i just got my G2 but i have played with it all night. Here is my review....
G2 -- Pros
-Fast(Yes it seems a little zippier than the vibrant)
-Keyboard
-Camera quality is good with flash
-In call quality is great
-2.2
-HSPA+
G2 --Cons
-Hinges are a real problem even though plenty of people on the G2 forums say that it was designed that way. They are just fanboys. I have had a touch pro2 which tilt and it tilted fine for months. It wont slide out if you sit rightside up but laying down on you back which i tend to do alot at night is a no can do.
-Video recording is so choppy no match for the vibrant
-Camera quality without flash is like 3mp to me
-Internal space not 4GB
-sdcard not hot swappable
-Battery life sucks(i hear its a random issue)
-Terrible! I mean Horrible! Torpid speaker on this phone!
Vibrant --Pros
-5mp camera with great quality
-video quality is superb
-fast(atleast for me im on stock with no lag unlike some users)
-16gb internal
-Audio & Video codecs
-4 inch screen SAMOLED
-Light
-A free hd quality movie
-Great speaker quality
-Touchwiz(Some may disagree but it makes life easier in alot of instances ie: music controls on locksreen, call end, speaker buttons in notification bar, wifi toggle in bar,facebook & twitter integration, daily brief)
Vibrant --Cons
-Phone quality sometime bad
-gps
-No 2.2
Now some may disagree but this is how i compare the two. When the vibrant gets 2.2 i have to say it will be much better and will kill the g2 in benchmarks. For now i think ill give the g2 back to tmobile and keep my vibrant cause a keyboard & HSPA+(isnt everywhere so its barely useless) arent enough to make me switch.
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Ok i just got my G2 but i have played with it all night. Here is my review....
G2 -- Pros
-Fast(Yes it seems a little zippier than the vibrant)
-Keyboard
-Camera quality is good with flash
-In call quality is great
-2.2
-HSPA+
G2 --Cons
-Hinges are a real problem even though plenty of people on the G2 forums say that it was designed that way. They are just fanboys. I have had a touch pro2 which tilt and it tilted fine for months. It wont slide out if you sit rightside up but laying down on you back which i tend to do alot at night is a no can do.
-Video recording is so choppy no match for the vibrant
-Camera quality without flash is like 3mp to me
-Internal space not 4GB
-sdcard not hot swappable
-Battery life sucks(i hear its a random issue)
-Terrible! I mean Horrible! Torpid speaker on this phone!
Vibrant --Pros
-5mp camera with great quality
-video quality is superb
-fast(atleast for me im on stock with no lag unlike some users)
-16gb internal
-Audio & Video codecs
-4 inch screen SAMOLED
-Light
-A free hd quality movie
-Great speaker quality
-Touchwiz(Some may disagree but it makes life easier in alot of instances ie: music controls on locksreen, call end, speaker buttons in notification bar, wifi toggle in bar,facebook & twitter integration, daily brief)
Vibrant --Cons
-Phone quality sometime bad
-gps
-No 2.2
Now some may disagree but this is how i compare the two. When the vibrant gets 2.2 i have to say it will be much better and will kill the g2 in benchmarks. For now i think ill give the g2 back to tmobile and keep my vibrant cause a keyboard & HSPA+(isnt everywhere so its barely useless) arent enough to make me switch.
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This was really helpful. I was on the fence about paying for a G2 coming from a Vibrant, but you may have helped my decision. The lack of hard keyboard is my only issue with the Vibrant. I just about loathe typing on it. I need a button press.
However, all the pros about the vibrant are the real reason i bought thia phone. I dont care about benchmarks, its not like these devices are gaming pc's. Its a rediculous thing to measure in a phone.
Ill keep my Vibrant for now, $499 for a G2 just to get a keyboard simply isnt worth it.
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This was really helpful. I was on the fence about paying for a G2 coming from a Vibrant, but you may have helped my decision. The lack of hard keyboard is my only issue with the Vibrant. I just about loathe typing on it. I need a button press.
However, all the pros about the vibrant are the real reason i bought thia phone. I dont care about benchmarks, its not like these devices are gaming pc's. Its a rediculous thing to measure in a phone.
Ill keep my Vibrant for now, $499 for a G2 just to get a keyboard simply isnt worth it.
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Wait for some deals on it and get it as a backup.... I may do this...
Yea benchmarks are only good to measure. It won't make a big difference in day to day use unless you have g1 vs a vibrant. Plus I only use the hardware keyboard when texting a lot. Other than that you will 90% use the screen
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I am sort of excited to hear that Sprint and HTC are looking at making the EVO V2. Bigger better and more amazing (although I'm not quite sure how that's possible.). What would you guys like to see from this potential phone?
Here's a 10 item wishlist of a few improvements I would totally love to see.
1. Better battery life! I bet HTC has been hard at work at improving on this. Especially since the only consistent negative in the reviews seemed to be battery life.
2. A keyboard! I really don't see this happening as I'm sure Sprint will leave the Epic as the top end phone with a keyboard and leave the new EVO/current gen as a nice solid brick phone for those who want something a little slimmer.
3. An option to turn sense off, in favor of stock. I am not sure how possible this would be and I am aware you could simply flash a rom, but it would be nice for those of us who are not the biggest fans of sense to have an alternative right out of the box.
4. Dedicated camera button. I know it's such a small thing but I do really missing being able to use my camera without any need to swipe through menus for a second or two. I know it would kind of ruin the simplicity of the device but still.
5. I would love love love it if the new EVO played nice with that wonderfully big seidio extended battery I bought. If it did and they implemented wish #1 I could go a week between charges, something I haven't been able to do since my pre-smartphone days.
6. A higher resolution display/camera sensor. Another point of pride for all those iphone users is that their retina display is so nice and great and that their camera is so much better. easiest way to shut their yaps? Have a 4.3 inch screen with an equal or better display! I personally don't see a large difference as my Evo pictures seem to turn out well. But hey I'll take an increase in MP with new hardware!
7. A battery cover/design that would protect the camera. This was a HUGE gripe with me at first and a large contributor as to why I bought the extended battery. From the start I thought the design was absurd and I'm sure this will be something that is fixed.
8. Access to micro SD without need to remove the battery. This is not the biggest issue ever but the few times I've had to remove my microSD card I am reminded of this little annoyance.
9. Gingerbread/Honeycomb/Ice Cream from launch. Sprint launched the first shot in the battle of the 4G's with the EVO and it has sold strong since day 1. What better way to launch Android's next big OS version than with the newest and best smartphone around?
10. A touch sensitive scroll ball/wheel/thing. After playing with a Droid Incredible and Nexus One, I enjoyed the touch sensitive button in the middle of these devices usable for scrolling, selecting, etc. It's not necessary but just a nice feature that could be added between the normal 4 android buttons.
Well there you have it everyone! My list of additions to make the EVO Shift continue the dominance started with our EVO 4g's! What tweaks/improvements would you guys like to see?
I think the shift is a tablet, not a phone.
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I think the shift is a tablet, not a phone.
Sent from my HTC SUPERSONIC
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No, the Shift is a smartphone. It says it in the filings document.
http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/11/15/htc.files.for.evo.shift.4g.name.with.uspto/
Either way, I'm sure I'll be buying the sequel as the is the best phone on the market in my opinion. I'm sure they'll keep up the good work on the sequel....if it happens
5 inch screen.. that's all I'm asking.
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I am sort of excited to hear that Sprint and HTC are looking at making the EVO V2. Bigger better and more amazing (although I'm not quite sure how that's possible.). What would you guys like to see from this potential phone?
Here's a 10 item wishlist of a few improvements I would totally love to see.
1. Better battery life! I bet HTC has been hard at work at improving on this. Especially since the only consistent negative in the reviews seemed to be battery life.
2. A keyboard! I really don't see this happening as I'm sure Sprint will leave the Epic as the top end phone with a keyboard and leave the new EVO/current gen as a nice solid brick phone for those who want something a little slimmer.
3. An option to turn sense off, in favor of stock. I am not sure how possible this would be and I am aware you could simply flash a rom, but it would be nice for those of us who are not the biggest fans of sense to have an alternative right out of the box.
4. Dedicated camera button. I know it's such a small thing but I do really missing being able to use my camera without any need to swipe through menus for a second or two. I know it would kind of ruin the simplicity of the device but still.
5. I would love love love it if the new EVO played nice with that wonderfully big seidio extended battery I bought. If it did and they implemented wish #1 I could go a week between charges, something I haven't been able to do since my pre-smartphone days.
6. A higher resolution display/camera sensor. Another point of pride for all those iphone users is that their retina display is so nice and great and that their camera is so much better. easiest way to shut their yaps? Have a 4.3 inch screen with an equal or better display! I personally don't see a large difference as my Evo pictures seem to turn out well. But hey I'll take an increase in MP with new hardware!
7. A battery cover/design that would protect the camera. This was a HUGE gripe with me at first and a large contributor as to why I bought the extended battery. From the start I thought the design was absurd and I'm sure this will be something that is fixed.
8. Access to micro SD without need to remove the battery. This is not the biggest issue ever but the few times I've had to remove my microSD card I am reminded of this little annoyance.
9. Gingerbread/Honeycomb/Ice Cream from launch. Sprint launched the first shot in the battle of the 4G's with the EVO and it has sold strong since day 1. What better way to launch Android's next big OS version than with the newest and best smartphone around?
10. A touch sensitive scroll ball/wheel/thing. After playing with a Droid Incredible and Nexus One, I enjoyed the touch sensitive button in the middle of these devices usable for scrolling, selecting, etc. It's not necessary but just a nice feature that could be added between the normal 4 android buttons.
Well there you have it everyone! My list of additions to make the EVO Shift continue the dominance started with our EVO 4g's! What tweaks/improvements would you guys like to see?
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1. Doubtful. The best thing I would expect from them would be utilizing the newer Snapdragon CPUs which somewhat help in this dept.
2. I think that is the direction they're heading due to the "Shift" in their name. I don't really see a point with the Epic there. Seems like it would steal some of their own sales.
3. Possible if using another ROM, etc. Root your phone... you'll thank me later.
4. Eh?! I remember accidentally pressing that on my BB all the time. Kind of annoying. It would be nice if you could assign that button to something else at least...
5. Doubtful they're going out of their way to make that work. The ball is on Seidio's court on that one. Especially when Sprint themselves sell an extended battery.
6. Higher res would be nice, but AMOLED is where we need to go. Also, I don't care about increasing the camera's MP, but addressing the horrible video quality (lowering compression or using better algorithm). Most importantly, fix the abysmal audio quality when video recording.
7. I don't know what they were thinking with this one either. I would rather have a bit extra girth near the camera like the Droid X if the camera can't be reduced in size until then.
8. No biggie. I have only accessed the SD once (when I put in my 32GB card).
9. Gingerbread will most likely be on it. HTC is pretty good about keeping on top with their new products.
10. I really don't see a use unless for gaming. I am on the side that likes things to be more minimalist/sleek in design. The more you add, the more the chance of it breaking.
a laser beam would b nice
I want a phone with a swapable/upgradeable cpu,gpu, ram, memory, screen, etc
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Either way, I'm sure I'll be buying the sequel as the is the best phone on the market in my opinion. I'm sure they'll keep up the good work on the sequel....if it happens
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same here, come this spring when i can upgrade again (sprint premier) i'm giving the wife the Evo in all it's rooted glory it is now to replace her rooted hero (which is still junk even rooted), but we'll have to wait and see if something better is out by then.
EVO shift4g= htc knight
the evo shift 4g is the htc knight it has a 1.2 ghz snapdragon a 3.7 inch screen and a slide out qwerty keyboard and will be running 2.2 with sense at least thats what giz and endgadget are stating
edit: sorry not giz or endgadget, its phone arena that has the specs
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the evo shift 4g is the htc knight it has a 1.2 ghz snapdragon a 3.7 inch screen and a slide out qwerty keyboard and will be running 2.2 with sense at least thats what giz and endgadget are stating
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3.7 inch screen, sorry that's a deal breaker, i'd rather have my 4.3 inch, why revert to a smaller screen, that's like getting rid of my 50" plasma and going back to my 32" crap box.
I agree. A sequel to a phone this amazing should not have a smaller screen.
Maybe bigger, but definitely not smaller!
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G.
The HTC Knight is probably just Sprint's variant of the Desire Z -- 3.7" phone with slide out keyboard. The most major changes seems to be the inclusion of WiMax and the EVO-like front look (hence the EVO branding). I don't see any mention of a 1.2 GHz CPU but PDADB has it's specs listed as running the same first generation Snapdragon as the EVO. Disappointing if true.
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3.7 inch screen, sorry that's a deal breaker, i'd rather have my 4.3 inch, why revert to a smaller screen, that's like getting rid of my 50" plasma and going back to my 32" crap box.
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a 4.3" phone with a sliding keyboard wouldn't fit in your pocket or at least would look ridiculous in it.
Not gonna buy another phone with a keyboard.
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a 4.3" phone with a sliding keyboard wouldn't fit in your pocket or at least would look ridiculous in it.
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Stop looking in my pockets.
I am thinking I want a 4G phone with a 3 inch screen now that tablets are about to get good. A 7 inch tablet and a smaller phone to tether with (but still useful when I don't have the tablet on hand), that's what I want.
This is what I want out of my next phone:
1. Dual Core Processor
2. Full bluetooth stack with Sense. Currently, I have to choose between having a rom that uses Sense or a rom that has a full bluetooth stack. In addition, the only roms that have the full bluetooth stack for the EVO don't support 4G and many have camera limitations. If I had this, I could hook up any bluetooth keyboard, mouse or game controller to my android with ease. WANT!
3. True HDMI support. Currently, the hdmi output only works with a few limited apps and that's it. That's bull****. I want to be able to plug my phone in via HDMI and have exactly what is on my phone's screen duplicated on the tv. This way I could play games on my phone on the big screen using the bluetooth controllers that I mentioned in the previous section.
4. USB host capabilities. I want to be able to plug my external hard drive directly into my phone and transfer files and consume media on the drive. I should be able to plug a usb keyboard and mouse into my phone.
Basically, if I get these three things, my phone will be a true portable computer. I could dock it and use a monitor and keyboard and mouse on it just like a desktop computer.
Better camera which is not exposed (my lens cover is cracked!)
Better Battery life
edit: Full HDMI out would be nice as well.
Beyond that I have zero complaints
If the battery tech doesnt catch up soon on the next phone ill probably break down and buy one of those mammoth batteries you guys use with the pregnant back on it. I get decent battery... about 15-18 hours now but thats only on days when im at work because im not using it much.
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a 4.3" phone with a sliding keyboard wouldn't fit in your pocket or at least would look ridiculous in it.
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i dont want a sliding keyboard, that would suck aswell, i like the current thinness is.
Looking at the Specs for the new Nexus S, there is nothing revolutionary. Seems like basically the Vibrant just renamed. Minor differences like FFC, and obvoiusly the Google experience with Gingerbread. Yet, hardware wise, the Nexus S looks like to be the same as the current Galaxy S lineup. Can you point out major differences in hardware?
link below
http://www.google.com/nexus/#!/tech-specs
Hey, Senior member, do you think this should be posted in the development section.
Can I be a mod?
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Hey, Senior member, do you think this should be posted in the development section.
Can I be a mod?
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OHHHH woops, I totally didn't mean to post this here, Sorry.
I already notified the mods to move it, that's what I get for not paying attention while typing.
there are actually a few hardware differences that may cause some minor issues with porting. location of micro usb port and headphone jack. might also have a different gps chip in it and then the inand only issue. it will be monumentally easier to port it to our devices than cm6 made for htc devices because processor and gpu wise they are identical.
Moved...
Also my post count is now at 1337 , awesome
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You mean like in l33t? Don't reply, you'll spoil it
kind of same but does have some differences
major selling point for me is 2.3, google, ext4, and more developers but yea that's all software.
But also has FFC, NFC, new antenna and possible new GPS chip, anti fingerprint curved glass, no more chrome bezel
My gripe ...bluetooth 3.0 got down graded to 2.1, external micro SD got removed, video codecs
I understand the codecs but i dont see the need to remove and downgrade hardware
I like its being sold threw local bestbuy because Ill probably end up buying it and if i dont like ill just return it
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You mean like in l33t? Don't reply, you'll spoil it
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Like 31337, actually: elite; later shortened to '1337, but never typed as l33t.
On topic: I was seriously planning on going to Nexus S, but they removed enough to make it unattractive. I'm (probably foolishly) going to give Sammy a chance to go ahead and get 2.3 on the SGS line. The world knows it's not just possible, but simple to do so.
If not, I have faith that XDA will fill that role whilst I search for a new primary phone mfg.
-bZj
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But also has FFC, NFC, new antenna and possible new GPS chip, anti fingerprint curved glass, no more chrome bezel
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what do you mean it has a new antenna? what type of new antenna.
yeah it's diff.
first thing is NFC
bluetooth etc
not to mention the FFC
the Nexus S is thicker too.
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there are actually a few hardware differences that may cause some minor issues with porting. location of micro usb port and headphone jack. might also have a different gps chip in it and then the inand only issue. it will be monumentally easier to port it to our devices than cm6 made for htc devices because processor and gpu wise they are identical.
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If that's true, awesome. But won't the different file formats make it more difficult to port? Isn't the fact that we have RFS the reason why it's so difficult getting AOSP on there in the first place? I'm curious because if it's going to be an easy port to get NS ROMS then there's really no reason for an "upgrade".
I dont believe the nexus s records hd 720p video either...
Nothing on the nexus s wool get me to switch... And if I want a ffc I'd just mod one on....
Vibrant ftmfw
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If that's true, awesome. But won't the different file formats make it more difficult to port? Isn't the fact that we have RFS the reason why it's so difficult getting AOSP on there in the first place? I'm curious because if it's going to be an easy port to get NS ROMS then there's really no reason for an "upgrade".
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Did anyone confirm what filesystem Samsung implemented for Nexus S?
There are a few differences hardware wise:
- No SD expansion slot
- FFC by default
- LED flash by default
- Menu, Home, Back and Search keys are in different order (I do not get it, why all the different phones even from the same manufacturer have to have different key layout )
- There could be different screen used in markets other than US and UK.
- NFC
The only real benefit of NS over its Galaxy S cousins is the carrier independent software releases/updates it seems.
smashpunks said:
I dont believe the nexus s records hd 720p video either...
Nothing on the nexus s wool get me to switch... And if I want a ffc I'd just mod one on....
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Reports show it does do 720p video. FFC mod is still a fail in my book as it makes the rear camera pretty crappy. And then only a subset of apps support ffc on the vibrant.
I wont switch to ns, BUT I would choose it over vibrant if I had to buy all over again.
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Its capable of 720p but not out of the box... It does not record @ 1280x720
It will be added later im sure by google or a developer here.
They did it with the nexus one
demo23019 said:
kind of same but does have some differences
major selling point for me is 2.3, google, ext4, and more developers but yea that's all software.
But also has FFC, NFC, new antenna and possible new GPS chip, anti fingerprint curved glass, no more chrome bezel
My gripe ...bluetooth 3.0 got down graded to 2.1, external micro SD got removed, video codecs
I understand the codecs but i dont see the need to remove and downgrade hardware
I like its being sold threw local bestbuy because Ill probably end up buying it and if i dont like ill just return it
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That's all true, the Nexus S is built for developer in mind. Not for consumer daily usage. My dad said the phone does have new GPS hardware. The screen is basically the same, except slight curve on glass, all current SGS phone can be curved during manufacturing. But Google want that design specifically for Nexus S only.
But this time Nexus S actually do have 16GB memory rather than 13GB for storage. 3GB for programs extra.
This is all I know so far. Will be getting the phone anyway cause its newer hardware.
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The only real benefit of NS over its Galaxy S cousins is the carrier independent software releases/updates it seems.
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"only real benefit"?
This is a _HUGE_ benefit. Everybody on XDA, in every forum, is constantly waiting for the devs to strip out all the manufacturer garbage, and release something close to stock as soon as google announces a new version.
I am crossing my fingers that the Nexus S is close enough to the Vibrant that within a week or two of the nexus hitting the streets we'll have a pulled vibrant-compatible ROM. If that doesn't happen then the hardware is different enough that devs will still be on the same cycle for the vibrant that we're currently on-- held back by Samsung's ability to crap touchwiz all over a year-old OS.
And then I'll get a Nexus S so I can finally be on a reasonable upgrade cycle for a phone of this speed.
The poll is bad because it's too black and white. Can't vote without feeling like I'm lying.
They are similar enough hardware wise that the Nexus S cannot be considered an Upgrade to Galaxy S phones (not just the Vibrant, any of them). Add in the actual bad points (No SD Card Slot, Downgraded Bluetooth functionality, etc.) and that phone becomes a bit of a joke. Maybe the released specs are an inside joke between Samsung and Google, and they're actually different than we think they are...?
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Like 31337, actually: elite; later shortened to '1337, but never typed as l33t.
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Usually only the vowels are replaced with numbers, else the **** becomes unreadable. L33T is readable. 1337 is not. The readability comes from the contrast between the numbers and the letters, as well as the fact that the numbers look similar to the letters. Turning every letter into a number only seems readable to you because you did it, and there are 26 letters - there aren't enough numbers to replace them.
Readable = R34d4bl3
It's called L33TSP34K.
i hope it still has download mode and uses Odin since its pretty much impossible to brick
Its a coin toss really; not a thumbs up or down imho
This is all strictly in my humble opinion based on the fact that I'm a T-Mobile customer, and own a Vibrant. That said, like others here I acknowledge the [subtle(?)] differences between the Galaxy S devices and the Nexus S so I'm onboard with:
NFC
FFC
Camera Flash
Support for T-Mobile's network (for those who care, like me)
Curved Display
The "pure Google experience" and everything that entails
But I don't feel all the new features should be considered 'pros' because they're not features I'm longing for or really desire at the moment:
NFC: Few places in my area support this so I don't see how I'm going to make much use of this initially
Curved Display: I hardly consider this a feature; I don't see/understand how I'm going to benefit. Its not like I'm getting cramps holding my phone.
And as others have voiced, I share the same sentiments that in some ways the Nexus S is a step backwards:
Lacks a microSD slot
Defaults to 480 recording
No HSPA+ (for those it matters to, like me)
Bluetooth downgraded from 3.0 to 2.3 with EDR+
Unfortunately for me, some of these missing feaures are a big deal:
The lack of a microSD slot is nearly a deal breaker.
If the recording is software controlled, why is it nerfed out of the box? Lame. Now we have to rely on some group of devs to figure this out, or wait for Google to release an update to address this issue, if they even consider it an issue.
The lack of HSPA+ is just a disappointment, but at least its a lateral move.
I don't use BT so much these days so I'm not really missing anything, but why not 3.0?
I was hoping for an 'immediate future proof' device. Honestly, I'll have to handle the device to be swayed in either direction. If the lack of Sammy's poorly implemented RFS produces a lag-free experience in general, and there aren't any GPS issues, or really annoying issues in general, that just might be enough for me to jump, but its a tough call right now.
Sources:
http://www.google.com/phone/compare/?phone=nexus-s&phone=t-mobile-mytouch-4g&phone=samsung-vibrant-a-galaxy-s-phone
http://www.google.com/phone/detail/nexus-s
http://www.google.com/nexus/tech-specs.html#!/tech-specs
Multiple: http://www.pcworld.com/search?qt=Nexus+s&s=d
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So the Evo 2 might be coming or not that's up to sprint and HTC to decide anyways, what are something that you would like in your Evo, the would be sweet to make it a better phone then what it is already?
I would like the retina display, of course for the Evo would be more resolution then the iPhone cause is a bigger screen , and also flash memory like the apple devices not for nothing but the speed things a lot
What are your suggestions ?
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Get rid of the gimmicky kickstand, and with that space install a larger battery.
Use a screen that can show millions of colors instead of just 65k.
That's it. Any software issues can be addressed with rooting+ROMS.
dedc said:
Get rid of the gimmicky kickstand, and with that space install a larger battery.
Use a screen that can show millions of colors instead of just 65k.
That's it. Any software issues can be addressed with rooting+ROMS.
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The 65k limitation was an Android limitation. 2.3 is supposed to be the first version that allows more than 65k colors. I believe it's been said the evo screen can handle 24bit color.
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The 65k limitation was an Android limitation. 2.3 is supposed to be the first version that allows more than 65k colors. I believe it's been said the evo screen can handle 24bit color.
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I heard that too
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An extended life battery that comes stock so the phone could easily be used all day and night on one charge. The sprint extended battery for the evo is acceptable. I really dislike the whole sd card mechanism. How about a spring loaded one like the epic? Last but not least, better radios. 3g, 4g, and wifi reception is worse than other top tier phones. Once again, the epic performs better in that category than the evo (in tests with myself and gf using each of the phones). I'm not saying epic is a better phone than the evo either. I'm saying the evo has room for improvement.
I'm not going to start ranting about samsung.....
I would like to see a better display, the latest hardware available like dual care and better GPU, and like the man above me stated an easy to access sdcard slot on the side of the phone instead of under the battery. Pretty annoying to have to power the phone down and remove the battery just to access the sdcard. Most Samsung phones have the sdcard in a side slot. Why can't HTC do this?
I love the kickstand i dont find it gimicky at all ... I dont know how many times ill be watching a UFC fight or sporting event and with out the kickstand it would be blah to have to sit and hold it there. Much easier to prop it on my work desk and just chill.
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I love the kickstand i dont find it gimicky at all ... I dont know how many times ill be watching a UFC fight or sporting event and with out the kickstand it would be blah to have to sit and hold it there. Much easier to prop it on my work desk and just chill.
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+1 I love the kickstand. Try playing snes games with a wii classic controller without a kickstand. You don't.
Its also nice for watching videos
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Improved Wi-Fi reception
Improved battery life
Faster processor and GPU
Android 2.3 without having to root and flash CM7
Also, +1 here for loving the kickstand.
Factory option for AOSP. I don't mind carriers and manufacturers to theme Android, but I think that allowing the phone to have AOSP on it should be REQUIRED and an option right out of the box.
Also, +1 for the kickstand love
i agree with the AOSP option although I just dont see it all that likely.
definitely an LED screen. not that it bothers me, but the droid x with the camera button and using the volume rocker as zoom, I think thats pretty innovative. maybe the camera not so exposed as well.
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i agree with the AOSP option although I just dont see it all that likely.
definitely an LED screen. not that it bothers me, but the droid x with the camera button and using the volume rocker as zoom, I think thats pretty innovative. maybe the camera not so exposed as well.
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Yeah, HTC made a HUGE design mistake by having the camera stick out like it does. Waaaaaay to easy to scratch.
Also, am I the only one who misses mini-USB over micro-USB? It seems micro-USB is more finicky, and the cables break easier.
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Factory option for AOSP. I don't mind carriers and manufacturers to theme Android, but I think that allowing the phone to have AOSP on it should be REQUIRED and an option right out of the box.
Also, +1 for the kickstand love
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The only problem with having AOSP as an option, is that it's only attractive to geeky types. The mass market can't handle choice. If they have to research a product for 10 extra minutes to figure out which option they'd like, the consumer will probably just pick the phone that chooses for them.
This is exactly why the iphone is so successful. People only have to decide how much memory they need (which is still a chore for a lot of users), and Apple does the rest.
I realize that choice is one of the main marketing points of Android, but like I said, too much choice drives people away. I think the current model is the best way to go. This way, the mass audience gets the easy setup, no hassle environment they want, and geeks can figure out how to customize it themselves.
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Factory option for AOSP. I don't mind carriers and manufacturers to theme Android, but I think that allowing the phone to have AOSP on it should be REQUIRED and an option right out of the box.
Also, +1 for the kickstand love
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+ one fvcking million
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The only problem with having AOSP as an option, is that it's only attractive to geeky types. The mass market can't handle choice. If they have to research a product for 10 extra minutes to figure out which option they'd like, the consumer will probably just pick the phone that chooses for them.
This is exactly why the iphone is so successful. People only have to decide how much memory they need (which is still a chore for a lot of users), and Apple does the rest.
I realize that choice is one of the main marketing points of Android, but like I said, too much choice drives people away. I think the current model is the best way to go. This way, the mass audience gets the easy setup, no hassle environment they want, and geeks can figure out how to customize it themselves.
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No one said it had to be default. HTC could have sense as the default, and if that was all you wanted, so be it. You'd never have to worry about vanilla. Adding an option to switch to vanilla buried somewhere in the menu IS NOT going to keep people away. Hell, who is even saying they would have to advertise it? Just put the option in there. For 90% of the population, nothing would change. For the other 10%, our experience would be much more satisfying.
I would like a dual core processor, more internal memory(i am just to damn cheap to buy a 32gb microsd card).
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No one said it had to be default. HTC could have sense as the default, and if that was all you wanted, so be it. You'd never have to worry about vanilla. Adding an option to switch to vanilla buried somewhere in the menu IS NOT going to keep people away. Hell, who is even saying they would have to advertise it? Just put the option in there. For 90% of the population, nothing would change. For the other 10%, our experience would be much more satisfying.
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Exactly my point
LOL
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+ one fvcking million
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I second that! And more memory won't hurt (like thunderbolt).
This on too!
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I would like a dual core processor, more internal memory(i am just to damn cheap to buy a 32gb microsd card).
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Dual core, which means it would need a better battery or else it dies out 2x faster with the stock (well sort of)
Dual core, as a HTC device that pretty much means the dual core 1.2 GHz Scorpion. I'd rather have the Tegra 2 since I have a feeling that battery life is better but not much HTC can do. GPU is bundled with this but
More RAM - 1GB. Not needed really but why not future proof it? Plus the newer GPUs reserve much more RAM anyway.
More internal Storage - 4-8GB. No more worrying about app space.
Higher resolution - 4.3" display but only WVGA resolution? Why? qHD at least. Throw in a SLCD, OLED is nice but HTC could probably only get their hands on the old bum-ish ones.
Better front and back camera - I'll take a VGA FFC and 5-8 MP if it means iPhone 4 or better clarity. I'm not going to do a large print from my phone any time soon anyway.
Bigger battery - 1800+ mAh. The Atrix did it, why not a 4.3" phone?
Sprint ID - I'd rather want bone stock Android but that's not happening. Sprint ID is basically stock Android with a slightly modified launcher. Throw Launcher Pro or any other Launcher and you're pretty close to or right at stock.
An smaller, more efficient WiMax radio. It exists so why not?
Hey guys,
I am due an upgrade from vodafone UK and am thinking of either a sensation or a galaxy S II and was wondering if anyone here can help me out decide?
As i see it the specs are pretty similar, almost too close to call. AMOLED in the Samsung should give really nice blacks and decent battery i guess, but the biggest thing to separate the 2 is the UI, sense or touchwiz.
I love my HD2 and will keep it to hack around with and flash etc.
Thanks for any thoughts to split the 2 big android phones of the year.
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Hey guys,
I am due an upgrade from vodafone UK and am thinking of either a sensation or a galaxy S II and was wondering if anyone here can help me out decide?
As i see it the specs are pretty similar, almost too close to call. AMOLED in the Samsung should give really nice blacks and decent battery i guess, but the biggest thing to separate the 2 is the UI, sense or touchwiz.
I love my HD2 and will keep it to hack around with and flash etc.
Thanks for any thoughts to split the 2 big android phones of the year.
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As far as straight hardware the SGS2 wins. SAMOLED display, 1ghz ram instead of the 768MB in the sensation. 16gb internal storage instead of the 1gb usable in the sensation (with microsd expandable).
Let's talk software. Go look at the Galaxy S dev section of this forum, then take a look at the HD2, or the Desire, or other HTC devices.
Devs always seem to flock to HTC devices over Samsung.
Compare Sense 3.0 to Touchwiz... Not even close. Sense 3.0 is better in so many ways, aesthetically speaking, functionally speaking, integration with contacts, facebook, better widgets, better everything IMO.
of course, there will be an awesome CM7 for the SGS2 so if you don't care about sense, you may go with this, just remember the lag issues the Vibrant has, and some of the freeze issues and other things I hate about it. The Nexus S seems fine but there again, Google wrote straight code for that without Samsung ****ing it up.
I'm going Sensation personally, but the SGS2 is a phone to be reckoned with...
The one and only issue with SGS2 is the Samsung software, they can and do regularly screw up software on otherwise great phones, the SGS1 was a prime example of that imho.
If they kept closer to the google stock versions it would be my choice, but currently there is no real replacement for the HD2, I may keep mine and go sim only
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As far as straight hardware the SGS2 wins. SAMOLED display, 1ghz ram instead of the 768MB in the sensation. 16gb internal storage instead of the 1gb usable in the sensation (with microsd expandable).
Let's talk software. Go look at the Galaxy S dev section of this forum, then take a look at the HD2, or the Desire, or other HTC devices.
Devs always seem to flock to HTC devices over Samsung.
Compare Sense 3.0 to Touchwiz... Not even close. Sense 3.0 is better in so many ways, aesthetically speaking, functionally speaking, integration with contacts, facebook, better widgets, better everything IMO.
of course, there will be an awesome CM7 for the SGS2 so if you don't care about sense, you may go with this, just remember the lag issues the Vibrant has, and some of the freeze issues and other things I hate about it. The Nexus S seems fine but there again, Google wrote straight code for that without Samsung ****ing it up.
I'm going Sensation personally, but the SGS2 is a phone to be reckoned with...
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Man dang good post, I agree totally with you on the Sensation A.K.A the Pyramid (I still that that was a cooler name). Personally I prefer the option of expandable memory with Micro SD over a fixed internal memory. I mean you do have advantages with a phone with fixed internal memory, but lets face it most devices now days with a quote "imternal memory" are really using a hidden SD card as the memory now and not a NAND chip. The SD card option is much cheaper for manufactures than NAND chips. But I still like being abale to remove my SD card and and use a card reader to transfer big files or print photos from it at a photo printer in store. It is a lot of advantages in havong removable storage to me.
Just my thoughts.
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Man dang good post, I agree totally with you on the Sensation A.K.A the Pyramid (I still that that was a cooler name). Personally I prefer the option of expandable memory with Micro SD over a fixed internal memory. I mean you do have advantages with a phone with fixed internal memory, but lets face it most devices now days with a quote "imternal memory" are really using a hidden SD card as the memory now and not a NAND chip. The SD card option is much cheaper for manufactures than NAND chips. But I still like being abale to remove my SD card and and use a card reader to transfer big files or print photos from it at a photo printer in store. It is a lot of advantages in havong removable storage to me.
Just my thoughts.
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I actually agree with you after looking at it some more, I mean what if you want to move your media to another phone or something? How about if you want to boot a ROM from SD (something some android devices can do). I really hate the raid zero WP7 phones do with the SD, and although Android treats it differently, IMO NAND + microSD is the way to go.
I also agree the "Pyramid" is a cooler name. This will be my next device and worthy of upgrading my HD2 to. Samsung cannot code for **** and they would be better off making phones and having Google write their code or putting their hardware in iPhones (like they've been doing)
not swayed yet...
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As far as straight hardware the SGS2 wins. SAMOLED display, 1ghz ram instead of the 768MB in the sensation. 16gb internal storage instead of the 1gb usable in the sensation (with microsd expandable).
Let's talk software. Go look at the Galaxy S dev section of this forum, then take a look at the HD2, or the Desire, or other HTC devices.
Devs always seem to flock to HTC devices over Samsung.
Compare Sense 3.0 to Touchwiz... Not even close. Sense 3.0 is better in so many ways, aesthetically speaking, functionally speaking, integration with contacts, facebook, better widgets, better everything IMO.
of course, there will be an awesome CM7 for the SGS2 so if you don't care about sense, you may go with this, just remember the lag issues the Vibrant has, and some of the freeze issues and other things I hate about it. The Nexus S seems fine but there again, Google wrote straight code for that without Samsung ****ing it up.
I'm going Sensation personally, but the SGS2 is a phone to be reckoned with...
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Good points. I have been seeing a lot of reviews lately of the Sensation. I have been waiting for a phone of its ilk for a while. However, from being an HD2 user, I really wanted to see power and battery life improved in the next phone i get. I am now an HTC lover, but I am really having a hard time understanding why they are lowering the bar on some of their new releases - especially the sensation.
It was a little odd that the sensation has less ram AND a poorer battery than the upcoming EVO 3d (which I am already getting grief from my Sprint friends), but after reading this review http://pulsene.ws/1HKxA I find out that it is not even up to speed with the competition. The first two paragraphs were eye openers.
I really don't want to jump the gun, like I did with the hd2 over waiting for the hd7. AND now I read that the Sensation Bootloader is locked as well?!?!? I am not saying that I will not get it, but I really don't understand why HTC is intentionally coming out the gate with a product that is behind.
Mmm ask Sony Ericsson that too. I think it's because general consumers could care less about the performance specs of a phone. E.g. Does it look good? How much Megapixels does it have? Front facing camera? HD video? How much storage? Touch screen? Lots of apps? Games? wifi? Does it work with 3g? How much is it? etc. Frig I don't care if the bootloader is locked, I don't even know what that is. That's something a general consumer would say.
Anyways I find the sgs 2 more appealing. Well mostly cuz of the overall space it can hold and the camera. 64 gb of space will rid me of my paranoia of the limits of memory, plus if the rumor of it holding a 64 gb sd card was true, well, "I love you". With all that space I can say goodbye to carrying around two sd cards and my zune lawl. And the fact that the sensation's bootloader is locked and i have no idea how long the "real" development of the device is gonna take.
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Mmm ask Sony Ericsson that too. I think it's because general consumers could care less about the performance specs of a phone. E.g. Does it look good? How much Megapixels does it have? Front facing camera? HD video? How much storage? Touch screen? Lots of apps? Games? wifi? Does it work with 3g? How much is it? etc. Frig I don't care if the bootloader is locked, I don't even know what that is. That's something a general consumer would say.
Anyways I find the sgs 2 more appealing. Well mostly cuz of the overall space it can hold and the camera. 64 gb of space will rid me of my paranoia of the limits of memory, plus if the rumor of it holding a 64 gb sd card was true, well, "I love you". With all that space I can say goodbye to carrying around two sd cards and my zune lawl. And the fact that the sensation's bootloader is locked and i have no idea how long the "real" development of the device is gonna take.
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I would rather have an Htc Sensations. I tried the ported one in my DZ, it looks awesome
Since you mentioned Soner, I should say Soner Xperia Arc is a good device.
But, it is not the best device. However, the Bravia Engine makes different display quality. It is so real, that's why they call it "Reality Display"
Cheers...
I have the same dilemma.
I went to see the Sensation and it was nothing special compared to my HD2, I like more the software in mine (CM7), the screen is too long and it is difficult to reach the notifications.
SGS2, The only Con I see is that is missing the notification light, and I'm addicted to it, I had the chance to buy it in Amsterdam but I didn't bc of this (not to mention the $850).
I'm waiting for something with 4.0 inches like the Incredible S..but I don't feel safe buying it bc it doesn't have warranty in the US.
My perfect phone would be the Nexus S with a good notification light..not BLN.
geekyhawkes said:
Hey guys,
I am due an upgrade from vodafone UK and am thinking of either a sensation or a galaxy S II and was wondering if anyone here can help me out decide?
As i see it the specs are pretty similar, almost too close to call. AMOLED in the Samsung should give really nice blacks and decent battery i guess, but the biggest thing to separate the 2 is the UI, sense or touchwiz.
I love my HD2 and will keep it to hack around with and flash etc.
Thanks for any thoughts to split the 2 big android phones of the year.
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I faced the same question, I got the Sensation and am Super excited with it. Our root comes in by the end of the week, and we already have a couple of custom roms going. Definitely go for the sensation!
Well there are apps for you to use the LED buttons as a notification LED so not really a drawback.
Anyways it depends on what you want. If you want a super smooth experience, the sgs 2 is a good go, obviously from it having the best speced phone.
The sensation is smooth also, but not as much as the sgs 2 since sense is eating away. But as said as above, you get a complete experience with sense, meaning sense has functionality that other phones simply don't have.
One big drawback I find with the sensation however is that we are only left with i think 200mb ram. Now that is just sad for a device as itself. With the sgs 2, you are left with 500+, so you can expect yourself not to be lagging from no memory.
Now really, I can keep talking and talking, but as you see, my talking is biased towards the sgs 2, as i do think it is the superior, but that shouldn't persuade you. Really you should be out there trying out both devices, and then be choosing which, not letting me persuade you to buy "this phone". Man cannot be a follower forever.
First part of my Sensation Vs SGSII review now up http://t.co/oMbZwvn
Also upcoming video showing the SGSII Vs Sensation in playing my test video clips (range of codecs etc - 1080p/720p/MKV/high profile/DTS, AC3, Vorbis, dual audio sound/internal MKV subs, external subs etc).
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The one and only issue with SGS2 is the Samsung software, they can and do regularly screw up software on otherwise great phones, the SGS1 was a prime example of that imho.
If they kept closer to the google stock versions it would be my choice, but currently there is no real replacement for the HD2, I may keep mine and go sim only
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Samsung's software on the SGSII seems to be lag free. I am yet to see any complain of any lag whatsoever.
None. Well at least if you get the Sensation you'll be bored, after having an HD2. Not a worthy upgrade I think. SGSII is well... Idk, it doesn't convince me. W8 for the next HTC maybe.
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1ghz ram instead of the 768MB
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1 "ghz" of ram?? lol
hmm, I think you are confusing RAM and CPU
Count me in for the same debate 'should I go Sensation or Sgs2'.
I had the advantage to play with both devices at once for a couple of hours.
Personally I would say Samsung.
Yes, the software is not as good as the Sensation (note the 'not as' meaning it is not bad) but the hardware is top notch.
The screen of the SGS2 is very very good, even outside in the sun you see something which to me is important.
I also did some video tests and the Samsung wins. Less autofocus and luminance hunting, overal a much more stabile video than the oversharped and overcompressed Sensation video.
The speakers on the Samsung, well you can hear them unlike the tweeter sound on the Sensation.
The fact that they have donated a SGS2 to the CM team makes me think they want us to develop the ultimate machine which I really like since Android is and should be open source. Their native roms work ok for the crowd so why not have a team develope the ultimate for the xda kind of people. Very clever and wise Samsung.
Ok the body of the SGS2 is made out of plastic but what is not and there is a lot of quality difference in plastic. At least it absorbs when it falls.
Mmm by writing this I think I have made my mind up
Wait for galaxy with faster cpu ;-)
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any phone of what so ever but no comparison to our beloved hd2..... body is awsm... and when u are buying a phone like sgs2 or sensation... u wont be thinking that the body will absorb the shock on falling cause when ull have it in ur hand ull be praying for its wellbeing and not falling ... and yes wait for evo3d
I have both the HD2 and the SGS2 (Stolen last saturday, but insurance will get me another one.)
I dont regret for a second that I preordered the SGS2, it outpreforms my HD2 by far. The screen is extremely good and the phone is stunningly lightweight, everyone who has held it has made comments on the weight. Batterytime is also alot better.
Regarding Touchwiz; I don't use it..Same goes for Sense on my previous HTC's
To me it seem like HTC tend to use cheap components in a lot of their phones, for example the speakers in all my HTC's have sucked compared to SGS2.
People say SGS can seem "plasticy" but I dont agree, everything is solid and non "squeeky" with the exeption of the button beneath the screen(my subjective opinion)
I would not hesitate for a second going for the SGS2, but thats me..
I am sure, CM7, Sense and MIUI will come to the SGS2 as more developers focus on this killer phone..
Sgs2 becoming the new HD2, would for sure be a dream come true
awsm...... if sgs2 gets customisation like hd2 .... damn .... a real dream will come true...