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Set your iPhone to require a four-digit passcode, and it may keep your private information safe from the prying eyes of the taxi driver whose cab you forget it in. But if law enforcement is determined to see the data you’ve stored on your smartphone, those four digits will slow down the process of accessing it by less than two minutes.
Here’s a video posted last week by Micro Systemation, a Stockholm, Sweden-based firm that sells law enforcement and military customers the tools to access the devices of criminal suspects or military detainees and siphon off their personal information.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygre...ment-cracks-your-iphones-security-code-video/
That is scary as heck. Good share of info. Wow. The video is a must watch.
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So how do they bypass fingerprint? That's my main reason for getting the atrix, can't crack a fingerprint. Interesting tho.
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pre4speed said:
So how do they bypass fingerprint? That's my main reason for getting the atrix, can't crack a fingerprint. Interesting tho.
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That was my first thought until I remembered that the fingerprint is backed up by a 4 digit pass code. So I guess they could walk right through the Atrix 4G just as easily as any other phone. Oh well......
The video has been deleted What was on it?
Also, your phone locks out and requires your google account password to unlock if the passcode has been entered incorrectly 20 times.
Do you reckon they can get past face unlock as well
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v.k said:
The video has been deleted What was on it?
Also, your phone locks out and requires your google account password to unlock if the passcode has been entered incorrectly 20 times.
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Google helped develop the software. What about freezing USB x.x.x with TiBu?
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If they want what's on it, they are going to get it, no matter how much security you think you have! Passcodes, FP reader, etc., are meant to protect from the regular Joe Blow user who rips off or finds your phone. If the military, law enforcement, etc., need to access your info and you want to stop them, you better go for the highest level of encryption you can find, and even then it's only a matter of time before they crack it and get in to your data.
This is why we need encryption. Really need to port truecrypt on Android...
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Just don't loose your phone..
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andrew.cambridge said:
Just don't loose your phone..
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Klever
10 char.
CaelanT said:
If they want what's on it, they are going to get it, no matter how much security you think you have! Passcodes, FP reader, etc., are meant to protect from the regular Joe Blow user who rips off or finds your phone. If the military, law enforcement, etc., need to access your info and you want to stop them, you better go for the highest level of encryption you can find, and even then it's only a matter of time before they crack it and get in to your data.
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read an article about a lady who had used some encryption software on her computer. it's encryption software that's available to the public.
anyhow, the cops couldn't get into her files without her password nor could their techs. so they tried getting her to divulge her password through legal manners. however, due to the right against self incrimination, this ruling was, of course, appealed and it turned into this whole fiasco regarding individuals' rights.
so the cops can't always get into someone's stuff.
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That was my first thought until I remembered that the fingerprint is backed up by a 4 digit pass code. So I guess they could walk right through the Atrix 4G just as easily as any other phone. Oh well......
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Only on blur based roms. I'm on cm7 which has no 4 digit backup code. If you mess up enough times, it prompts for your gmail credentials. Can't fake that either.
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read an article about a lady who had used some encryption software on her computer. it's encryption software that's available to the public.
anyhow, the cops couldn't get into her files without her password nor could their techs. so they tried getting her to divulge her password through legal manners. however, due to the right against self incrimination, this ruling was, of course, appealed and it turned into this whole fiasco regarding individuals' rights.
so the cops can't always get into someone's stuff.
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That lady's laptop finally got decrypted without her consent. They forcefully decrypted.
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Only on blur based roms. I'm on cm7 which has no 4 digit backup code. If you mess up enough times, it prompts for your gmail credentials. Can't fake that either.
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Another layer is two. Step verification. That works till google is on your side.
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That lady's laptop finally got decrypted without her consent. They forcefully decrypted.
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shweet. thanks for that conclusion. always wondered what happened and I could not find that article again.
If someone has physical access, there is nothing that can stop them.
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If someone has physical access, there is nothing that can stop them.
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so true.
after i saw that xry video of swedish agency helping police with all this stuff.
its confirmed beyond belief that all devices can be cracked off within minutes.
another intriguing thing ,
why no mentions of windows phone 7 and blackberry devices?
aren't they crackable?
only devices which are demoed are android and iphone.
If it's that serious install an app that can delete data remotely. They can eventually crack it yes, but can they crack it before your phone call?
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I thought I read an article about law enforcement calling Google for help to crack an Android pattern lock...
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I have ordered two N7 and ticked to connect them with my Google user. The question is if I'll get 2x25$ for my Google account afert loging in at one device, or i have to do it on both. In the future i'm going to use two N7 for two different users.
I don't think so, these kinds of things are usually a once-per-user type deal.
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gieja said:
I have ordered two N7 and ticked to connect them with my Google user. The question is if I'll get 2x25$ for my Google account afert loging in at one device, or i have to do it on both. In the future i'm going to use two N7 for two different users.
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I would suggest using another gmail account just in case so you don't lose the credit.
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gieja said:
I have ordered two N7 and ticked to connect them with my Google user. The question is if I'll get 2x25$ for my Google account afert loging in at one device, or i have to do it on both. In the future i'm going to use two N7 for two different users.
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I did the same thing. Im hoping i get a $50 credit.
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I hope all we're going to do is login on both devices for our Google account and the'll charge our wallet with 2x25$ which we will spend on one N7.
Questions go in the Q&A section
I really want to know the answer for this. Have two coming from Gamestop and don't want to lose the credit on one by doing the wrong thing.
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Why don' t you call google and find out?
I'm going to order 10 of these, apply all the GCs to my account and then sell 9 of the tablets. "Free" tablet ftw!
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Why don' t you call google and find out?
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Because I live in Poland and they're not selling N7 in here and phone call to US and waiting 45min on hold would cost me more than 25$.
Google per device registration for apps and play store
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Sorry upfront i cant remember or find where i read this. Thou i know it was a credible source for the most part . I have read that goggle Jelly bean has a feature built into it . To attach a unique identifier from that device(guessing esn) to the market and apps purchased on that device and make them not available on other devices unless you re purchase them for each device you have. If this holds any truth. I would think the 25.00 credit would also be linked to such a standard. If in fact true you would have 25.00 for each tab. not a total of 50.00. But both tablets can link to the same google wallet account. As i use google wallet for may things other then APP Store. Same with my Pay Pal Debit card.I just find it safer.
Sorry if this is a bit off topic but its interesting to really know if this holds any Truth. I have some not so cheap apps. I would SCREAM If they told me i had to re purchase them. because i buy a new device every year lately.
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Sorry upfront i cant remember or find where i read this. Thou i know it was a credible source for the most part . I have read that goggle Jelly bean has a feature built into it . To attach a unique identifier from that device(guessing esn) to the market and apps purchased on that device and make them not available on other devices unless you re purchase them for each device you have. If this holds any truth. I would think the 25.00 credit would also be linked to such a standard. If in fact true you would have 25.00 for each tab. not a total of 50.00. But both tablets can link to the same google wallet account. As i use google wallet for may things other then APP Store. Same with my Pay Pal Debit card.I just find it safer.
Sorry if this is a bit off topic but its interesting to really know if this holds any Truth. I have some not so cheap apps. I would SCREAM If they told me i had to re purchase them. because i buy a new device every year lately.
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I highly doubt that that is true as it would make no sense to force users to buy the same app multiple times. Are you perhaps referring to the encryption of paid apps? That's to prevent piracy and cracking rather than the above stated purpose.
I activated my I/O & got the credit but when I activated the one from Gamestop, I didn't get the credit.
It would be prone to too much abuse, eh? Having multiple credits on one account. Theoretically, if you bought a tablet, activated it, returned it citing display problems, and repeat 7 more times, you'd have enough credits to receive a free Nexus 7 from the Play Store, no?
Unless I'm horrible mistaken, that's how I understand it.
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It would be prone to too much abuse, eh? Having multiple credits on one account. Theoretically, if you bought a tablet, activated it, returned it citing display problems, and repeat 7 more times, you'd have enough credits to receive a free Nexus 7 from the Play Store, no?
Unless I'm horrible mistaken, that's how I understand it.
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The credits can only be used for digital content (except subscriptions)
But I'm assuming the rest of your post is probably correct.
This similar thread answered a bit more questions for you guys.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774058
I switched to verizon from sprint and my gs3. Sprint's service sucked, but the GS3 was awesome... I like the battery life of the maxx hd, however. One thing I cannot stand is Verizon's (probably) illegal blocking of apps like Google Wallet. On Sprint, I used Google Wallet frequently. That brings me to the point of this post:
I am starting a bounty for the first person that is able to provide instructions/code/apk/something that allows me to install Google Wallet on my rooted Verizon RAZR MAXX HD non developer edition phone running the verizon JB leak and successfully complete an NFC transaction. The transaction test will be done at a business that works perfectly with sprint phones, in order to keep it fair.
Bounty: $20. I know it isn't a lot, but I am hoping others will chip in as well. My portion of the bounty will be paid via paypal.
I've tried sideloading the apk, installing it as a system app, installing a modified apk, trying market enabler, etc, etc. I am willing to follow your instructions but please have it working for yourself before you send me something if you want to collect the bounty.
have you tried flashing the modified Google wallet apk from here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769083
It worked on my s3 when my carrier didn't support gw.
I don't actually have an hd yet, picking one up black Friday, once I have one I'll be working on this.
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Thatoneguy. said:
have you tried flashing the modified Google wallet apk from here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769083
It worked on my s3 when my carrier didn't support gw.
I don't actually have an hd yet, picking one up black Friday, once I have one I'll be working on this.
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Yea, that was one of the first things I tried... I had high hopes for that method too.
I've also tried the method from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1810282 which didn't work for me.
I'll put up another $20 in the bounty.
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I am willing to put 50 to get Wallet working on my RAZR HD without having to mess with my bootloader. 100 if its fairly easy to install. A.k.a. noob proof.
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You need to realize there will never be an easy way to get Google Wallet on your phone. Part of the setup process even with hacked apks is on Google's servers that check the phone model. Only way around this is to edit your build prop which requires root. Its not easy and will never be unless Google wants it to be. Just fyi
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mobilehavoc said:
You need to realize there will never be an easy way to get Google Wallet on your phone. Part of the setup process even with hacked apks is on Google's servers that check the phone model. Only way around this is to edit your build prop which requires root. Its not easy and will never be unless Google wants it to be. Just fyi
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Maybe things have changed, but when my carriers s3 wasn't supported, I just changed the phone model in build prop, installed the apk in system, rebooted, set up Google wallet, then reverted to my original build prop and everything was good to go.
Once it was registered the phone model didn't matter.
Or maybe not, Maybe they've updated their security protocol since then.
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So i posted about our dilemma to the dev who originally got it working in the s3 thread, this is his response
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I would need a razr to test things... or someone very good with adb to give me the no I need.
Who knows, may or may not be posible
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Anyone familiar with adb and have an hd right now willing to work with him?
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Thread Closed:
Threads like this are really against what XDA stands for and is for. Should the developer have a donate button, that's okay, but to pay someone to do it won't be allowed.
The Nexus 4 is my first Nexus device, and people are saying to root and unlock bootloaders and all that.
Why should you root a nexus device? I'm not planning on putting any custom Roms because the stock ROM already pleases me enough.
If you rooted your device, why did you do it? I don't know if I should take the plunge, because I'm perfectly happy ATM with it not rooted.
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If you're happy without root and you don't know what root does, then don't root. It's for people wanting more out of their phone than is possible with stock
jacklebott said:
If you're happy without root and you don't know what root does, then don't root. It's for people wanting more out of their phone than is possible with stock
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The thing is I know what root is and does, but does it make sense with a pure Google nexus phone? I just need the pros. Don't get me wrong, I want to make the jump but idk why I should
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I would do it to be able to use the programs that require super user. Titanium Backup for example, if I want to restore my games.
Don't do if you are not sure what are you going to do with that.
EDIT: "idk why I should", maybe then it's not completely true "The thing is I know what root is and does". In my case I would first get very well informed (I don't want to break my phone), and then proceed. Just in case that someday I need an app with superuser permissions. And unlocking the bootloader first of all, I don't want to lose everything the day I decide to do it.
PD: I must wait 5 minutes, maybe my edit looks odd by then
I've always at minimum unlocked the bootloader, even if I don't plan on taking it much further. Reason being is the forced wipe when/if you do decide to later.
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If I unlock and root it. Will it be easy to restore, so I have warranty and can send it back to Google?
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If I unlock and root it. Will it be easy to restore, so I have warranty and can send it back to Google?
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Yep, just lock it the same way you unlocked it "fastboot oem lock" after flashing stock 4.2 from https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#occam
Dude, no offense but how may threads are you gonna start basically asking the same question? Everything you're asking is in the stickies in each of these sections. Read the stickies first, completely.
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If we are talking just plain rooting... I mainly do that to install adfree android, as well as allowing tasker access to higher level settings, and allowing me to access protected files (I recently replaced my default browser with one that I made some modifications in the code). I also use of titanium backup, but lately I haven't had need for it.... but its nice to have
Pro:
AD BLOCK - This is the most important reason for me, and the reason I use to convince friends who just don't know computers stuff, let alone android.
Back Up - The ability to completely back up the phone is just golden. I think I don't have to explain why backing up is important, or why you might want to back up your contacts, text message, saved games, etc. all at the same time instead of doing each of them individually.
Yes, there is a cloud. But do you totally trust the sync service and cloud's server?
Cons:
Rooting voids warranties - But you can unroot and relock the bootloader later.
Not getting OTA - You can always sideload it. All it takes is a few command line on the computer and a few touch on your device.
Edit: I was wrong about the not getting OTA part. But, still, you can always sideload OTA if you can't get OTA.
Needless to say, I root every single of my Android phone a few hours after I get them.
KyraOfFire said:
Pro:
AD BLOCK - This is the most important reason for me, and the reason I use to convince friends who just don't know computers stuff, let alone android.
Back Up - The ability to completely back up the phone is just golden. I think I don't have to explain why backing up is important, or why you might want to back up your contacts, text message, saved games, etc. all at the same time instead of doing each of them individually.
Yes, there is a cloud. But do you totally trust the sync service and cloud's server?
Cons:
Rooting voids warranties - But you can unroot and relock the bootloader later.
Not getting OTA - You can always sideload it. All it takes is a few command line on the computer and a few touch on your device.
Needless to say, I root every single of my Android phone a few hours after I get them.
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So if i root i won't be able to get the ota update, wow thats pretty lame, I know there is an app to keep the root.
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Cons:
Not getting OTA - You can always sideload it. All it takes is a few command line on the computer and a few touch on your device.
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Wrong. My phone is rooted ( running stock rom ) and I received OTA update.
You only don't get OTA with root if you modify/delete certain system files (such as apps)
Just rooted
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Can anyone verify if it has NFC?
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Indeed it does. With Google rolling out Android pay currently it wouldn't make any sense for them to release their hero phone without it
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Of course it does. They talked about using the fingerprint sensor for Android Pay.
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The real question, for me anyway, is whether or not Android Pay will continue to function after unlocking the bootloader and/or rooting. I remember having to take a pretty convoluted route 3 years ago to get Google Wallet to function properly with the NFC in my Note II by "persuading" Wallet to believe that it was a Nexus.
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The real question, for me anyway, is whether or not Android Pay will continue to function after unlocking the bootloader and/or rooting. I remember having to take a pretty convoluted route 3 years ago to get Google Wallet to function properly with the NFC in my Note II by "persuading" Wallet to believe that it was a Nexus.
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Unfortunately, I don't think it will ever work on a rooted phone, as a Google Engineer has shared here: http://www.xda-developers.com/googl...-with-root-and-android-pay-in-the-xda-forums/
Str8Pryd said:
The real question, for me anyway, is whether or not Android Pay will continue to function after unlocking the bootloader and/or rooting. I remember having to take a pretty convoluted route 3 years ago to get Google Wallet to function properly with the NFC in my Note II by "persuading" Wallet to believe that it was a Nexus.
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It its current state it will not work as it doesn't currently on the nexus 5/6 ect either. I am still using google wallet on mine, but will have to give up nfc payments once i get my 6p.
Str8Pryd said:
The real question, for me anyway, is whether or not Android Pay will continue to function after unlocking the bootloader and/or rooting. I remember having to take a pretty convoluted route 3 years ago to get Google Wallet to function properly with the NFC in my Note II by "persuading" Wallet to believe that it was a Nexus.
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Unlocked bootloader is fine, but a custom ROM fails SafetyNet's CTS build check, and root causes actual transactions to fail. So no, Android Pay or root, pick one, unfortunately.
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