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Where is the GT-N8013 Developement?

I see a few GT-N8000 options, but no love for us US Wi-Fi Only (N8013) users.... Hopefully that will change soon

ej_424 said:
I see a few GT-N8000 options, but no love for us US Wi-Fi Only (N8013) users.... Hopefully that will change soon
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The device launched LAST THURSDAY...
Competent developers take time to test and polish their stuff, they don't just throw random crap out into the wild to claim "first".
The only reason the N8000 is ahead right now is because it had about a week headstart in availability.
I can tell you at least two Cyanogenmod device maintainers have purchased or have Note 10.1s on order - Myself (N8013 in my possession) and Espenfjo (N8000 on order), also I think chris41g and at least one other member of the CM team have N8013s.

Same for the Euro N8010 Wifi only version. No dev either...

Entropy512 said:
The device launched LAST THURSDAY...
Competent developers take time to test and polish their stuff, they don't just throw random crap out into the wild to claim "first".
The only reason the N8000 is ahead right now is because it had about a week headstart in availability.
I can tell you at least two Cyanogenmod device maintainers have purchased or have Note 10.1s on order - Myself (N8013 in my possession) and Espenfjo (N8000 on order), also I think chris41g and at least one other member of the CM team have N8013s.
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Understood and makes sense (wasn't aware they had the headstart). Glad to hear you have a 8013 as I've seen alot of good work from you in the past for current and previously owned devices. One quick question... maybe its too early to say, but do you see porting the S-Pen apps and functionality to CM 10 even as an option? Maybe its not even possible....
Thanks again!

I'm so looking forward to the boost CM will give to this tablet judging from my experience with CM9 giving new life to my old Galaxy S Epic 4G.

This device should be quite popular with Developers due to the s-pen. I am betting we have roms galore in about 30 days,
We have root already at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831152.

It just released, give it time.

ej_424 said:
Understood and makes sense (wasn't aware they had the headstart). Glad to hear you have a 8013 as I've seen alot of good work from you in the past for current and previously owned devices. One quick question... maybe its too early to say, but do you see porting the S-Pen apps and functionality to CM 10 even as an option? Maybe its not even possible....
Thanks again!
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Apps with the S-Pen SDK - No.
Apps that use the standard ICS Pen APIs - Yes - these are becoming more and more common. PS Touch may even be in this category, I won't know until I've tried. I had a bunch of N7000/I777 stuff to do this past weekend so didn't even start on CM10 bringup.
Built-in features such as stylus gestures and an included note-taking app - There was work started on this, the Note 10.1 will make it more important to get this stuff finished. Google dropping JB kind of put a hold on the "new CM features" stuff as we tried to un-break all the old ones.

Might I just say, it is [email protected] good to see you here, Entropy.
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One thing, as far as CM on the N80xx:
I probably could have had CM booting and mostly working with only a few hours of work. However, there's the "quick way" and there's the "right way". The "quick way" would've gotten my N8013 working without providing any benefit for N8000, and without leveraging I9300 commonality. The "right way" takes quite a bit more time - but leverages commonality with the I9300. I'm REALLY hoping we can use the same smdk4412 kernel source tree as the I9300 with just some patches, as it makes maintenance MUCH easier, but could take some time to initially pull in all the right patches.
Similarly, getting an N8013 device tree would've been easy. Having a "common" tree takes more time but means all N80xx devices will pretty much all be maintained to the same degree. See P51xx/P31xx...

Think I saw viperboy lurking in the forum
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Seeing alot of well known Dev's.. This is great and very encouraging. The hardware on this device is awsome, only complan and minor one at that is the screen resolution. In all honesty though it really doesnt bother me much as there ins't much jaggy endges.

As is usual - Whenever Samsung releases a new device (or even a major upgrade to an old device - See I9100 ICS cpufreq derpage which took multiple kernel developers 2-3 weeks to figure out), there's some really derped-up **** in the source.
Right now, any source-built kernel has massive issues with wifi - The SDIO interface just seems to shut down and the chip drops off the face of the earth. This does not happen in the stock kernel.
This one's gonna be a pain in the ass to figure out.
See attached dmesg for an example of the fun...

ilostmypistons said:
Think I saw viperboy lurking in the forum
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Heh, but I promise you I'm nowhere near as good as the CM guys are. Once I get my tablet, I might do a stock ROM with some tweaks but it won't be anything insane.
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-viperboy- said:
Heh, but I promise you I'm nowhere near as good as the CM guys are. Once I get my tablet, I might do a stock ROM with some tweaks but it won't be anything insane.
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So modest
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ilostmypistons said:
So modest
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Lol viperboy has no cause for modesty
We look forward to his always excellent work.
I wonder what this will overclock to when they have the kernel figured out?
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model name doubt
HI my note 10.1 is the shw-m480w is the wifi version bough tin korea
how does translates to the other code names so i can flash a custom rom?
Thx in adv

[Ref] Note 2 Dev List the Unofficial.

This is the unofficial thread to find the list of developers for the Samsung Galaxy Note II.
If you are a developer and or ROM maker/cooker would like to confirm that you are going to dev on this device please send me a pm, and I will add you to the list. In past experiences these types of threads have shown to be very helpful to build dev support for a device, and also to help people decide on a device.
What, actually is the list for?
Basically its for people and devs to see all the dev support the device will have. This sometimes is the deciding factor for getting a phone. If there's huge dev support more people will come. This makes it easier for people to find information on what devs will be supporting the note 2.
To pm me and get added to the list Click Here.
Let's make this Galaxy Note II community awesome!
Confirmed Developers
1.Utacka
2.thering1975
3.DakiX
4.::indie::
5.m3dd0g
6.Crash 1976
7.g.lewarne
8.toxicthunder
9.awesomehacker
10.KashaMalaga
11.-Viperboy-
12.lennyuk
13.Dexter_nlb
14.DocRambone
15.imilka
16.f3w1n
17.kristofpetho
18.mike1986.
19.Stavr0s91i
20.wanam
21.xator91
22.Beukhof1
23.ptmr3
24.Anas M.I
25.cpu999
26.AndreiLux
27.Chainfire
28.Patrics83
29.Chenglu
30.bigbiff

Hi,
Thanks for starting this thread. I just want to ask "Do you think there be a lot of development for this phone?" Particularly for Note II, in general for future Samsung phones.
I just finished watching this video here or here and I just heard about some developers leaving Samsung altogether? Samsung locking bootloaders? Samsung getting too big for their own ego?
I currently own the Int'l N7000 and I found the development to be good for what I want. I didn't check out the i717 thread but I assume they are fair.
I'm not really experienced in rooting but I found Samsung Note to be fairly straight forward. I recently rooted an HTC Amaze 4G and the numerous steps plus the lack of info made me never to buy an HTC phone (even if I do like the HTC One X, my friend has the North American version and he said development is low there).
This is one reason why I'm holding out on the Note II until Feb 2013, maybe even Sept 2013 (in case Note 3) comes out because I want to see how the development plays out.
I know the phone just came out, but I assumed International Note development should be all hunky dory but I never know. Makes me not want to switch devices. I had an Int'l Galaxy S2 previously and development for that is great!
I hear Sony development is awesome. But then, I think I'll just go get a Nexus for ease of development (but the screen is so small!)
What do you guys think?
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Confirmed Developers
1.Utacka
2.thering1975
3.DakiX
4.::indie::
5........
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thanks leafsacc, I wasn't aware of this until now. I'm still not sure what's going on but I assumed there would be a way around a bootloader, as coders always find a way :highfive:
but reading the below, says it could have been verizon which was the cause of the bootloader, not samsung. so why is xdadevtv directing his video to samsung? is it because no open source was given for the s3? has it still not been released? will it be? anyone care to sum it up for some of us who aren't in the know? :>
Based on Samsung’s track record of always shipping devices with unlocked bootloaders, we can all safely deduce that Verizon is the one to blame here.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/verizon-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-unlocked/

For starters cm will not support n7100 if samsung dont change their ways. atleast the current dev team in cm will not support newer samsung exynos devices. i9300/n80xx was the last. Only way to get n7100 supported is if samsung cooperate or a new dev join cm dev team.
Without cm support i cannot do my paranoidandroid from source as I do with n7000. Time will tell if some new dev join cm samsung team or samsung get their act together. Dont look good though.
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Utacka said:
For starters cm will not support n7100 if samsung dont change their ways. atleast the current dev team in cm will not support newer samsung exynos devices. i9300/n80xx was the last. Only way to get n7100 supported is if samsung cooperate or a new dev join cm dev team.
Without cm support i cannot do my paranoidandroid from source as I do with n7000. Time will tell if some new dev join cm samsung team or samsung get their act together. Dont look good though.
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Whoops not good news :crying: i need also sources...

Well I don't get it because it is sharing most of the hardware with S3 so the stuff should be at least ported easily.
Now I understand Samsung being a complete ass with their proprietary drivers
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jbounours said:
Well I don't get it because it is sharing most of the hardware with S3 so the stuff should be at least ported easily.
Now I understand Samsung being a complete ass with their proprietary drivers
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You still need one of the dev maintaining exynos devices to buy n7100 and then maintaining it... we can hope for someone to step up but its their freetime and money. Entropy512 told me he would be buying at&t version which is nearly identical if samsung would change their behavior. All we can do for now is to sit and wait...
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Hi guys, my ROM is finally finished and now uploaded at 89%.
I need a tester! My Note 2 has not arrived yet
Please write via PM.

You forgot chainfire..
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This is a great thread. I hope more chefs will chime in.
I am considering a Note II but it is absolutely vital that CM is developed for it, together with Paranoid Android. Especially since Key Lime Pie (CM11?) is be around the corner.
I also think it is important with AOSP/AOKP development for it.
So I hope the issue will be sorted during this month. If not, I am afraid that I have to consider a different game plan.
Buying a device without proper developer support is a no go for me.

For everyone woundering about my sources here is a statement from Entropy512:
Entropy512 said:
Not likely to happen. If CM comes to the Note 2, it will only be if a new maintainer steps up.
Most of the current Exynos maintainer team (myself, espenfjo, codeworkx) and others have all decided that our current devices will be our last non-Nexus Exynos devices. I'm not sure about xplodwild, but I have a feeling he's highly unlikely to take up another Haxxinos with the rest of us gone and given his prior experiences with it.
If Samsung changes their attitude towards developers, this might change, but their attitude lately (zero documentation, zero platform source code, a trend towards bootloader locking - Only the Verizon S3 has a locked bootloader now, but Samsung has had the infrastructure in place since the S2 and they are constantly adding more checks) has led to the current Exynos maintainer team deciding that enough is enough. I don't think any of us are going to do anything to make Samsung's Exynos devices more attractive to any particular market segment until they provide assistance (in the form of technical documentation and source code) in return. I don't know about the others, but if they offer me a free device I'll say no - I refuse to participate in a PR stunt like the I9100 donations were.
Pretty much the only way I'll go back is if I see reference platform source that is up to the same standards as CAF and omapzoom, or they actually start providing real documentation and source code for the devices I'm currently working with.
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Thanks entwicklun,
I Googled "verizon locked bootloader samsung galaxy note" and from what I understand that it was Verizon's request to lock the bootloader. Not sure what I would do if I was Samsung but my guess is, if it helps sell more phones on Verizon then lock the boot loader. Money talks, right?
But then I'm hearing news about Samsung not giving developers this and that, just like the example below.
jbounours said:
Well I don't get it because it is sharing most of the hardware with S3 so the stuff should be at least ported easily.
Now I understand Samsung being a complete ass with their proprietary drivers
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And I also need a phone that will have Paranoid Android (and the odd CM here and there), but it must also a 5" phablet. I guess there is nothing wrong with my current Note, but again by searching on Google there's a possibility that the "next big thing" might be the HTC Google Nexus X+. If that has an expansion card slot, that's it, I'm not getting the Note 2.
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This is a great thread. I hope more chefs will chime in.
I am considering a Note II but it is absolutely vital that CM is developed for it, together with Paranoid Android. Especially since Key Lime Pie (CM11?) is be around the corner.
I also think it is important with AOSP/AOKP development for it.
So I hope the issue will be sorted during this month. If not, I am afraid that I have to consider a different game plan.
Buying a device without proper developer support is a no go for me.
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Thanks for all the work the dev's put in. I'm just saying, my next phone is where the developers are. Samsung doesn't own us. :laugh:

I'll be here when I get my note2 in December
For those that don't know, TW ROM, aokp and multi booting kernel (or at least 2 sesperate kernels )
Myself and utaka could probably come up with a aosp supporting kernel for the device if official CM does not materialise.

Crash Rom will be here to
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cheers, I'm sure those browsing like me will know what's up now.
I've already ordered my note 2, but I would fully support the dev crew. even if that means selling my note 2 at a loss and buying what's being developed, pending though. I do like phablets and if the x+ doesn't have an exspansion slot then I probably wouldn't buy it.
I also hope aokp devs on the note 2. I certainly love their ROMS

leafsacc said:
Samsung getting too big for their own ego?
I currently own the Int'l N7000 and I found the development to be good for what I want. But then, I think I'll just go get a Nexus for ease of development (but the screen is so small!)
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g.lewarne said:
I'll be here when I get my note2 in December
For those that don't know, TW ROM, aokp and multi booting kernel (or at least 2 sesperate kernels )
Myself and utaka could probably come up with a aosp supporting kernel for the device if official CM does not materialise.
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Are noobs like me allowed to jump in please?
Utacka sir is so kind to us all in his PA thread
Anyways, I think devving for this device would initially start with kanged TW based ROMs. With CM wary on supporting the device, it does seem a bit dark but hey, I am sure there are others to step up.
But then again, you can never be too sure.
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BTW, next nexus device is perhaps open to all OEMs.
Might be an Optimus from LG but from what I've read other manufactures are welcome to jump in and join the party.
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I am the same, an expansion card slot is a big plus.
development support is also a big factor.
I would flash aokp right now but i'm so scared of emmc bug (which I assume will not be in the Note 2 just like it did not exist in GB ROM Notes. But who knows if "Key Lime Pie/Kandy Kane" might have a similar brick bug) on ICS kangs that I just stay far, far, away.
My ultimate fav is CassiesXtraLite so it's good to see thering1975 on the list.
entwicklun said:
I do like phablets and if the x+ doesn't have an exspansion slot then I probably wouldn't buy it.
I also hope aokp devs on the note 2. I certainly love their ROMS
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I might bring VillainRom to the Note2, but only if/when we can get our OTA update/optional mods app up and running to a high enough standard.

Would be nice to know for wich model is going to work each developer.
- f3w1n -

poor development for note 2?

Currently we only have one kernel port from S3 and 3 decent roms after one month of the release.
Do you know if anyother developer like siyah or franco are going to make kernels for our device? It is a shame to don't have it

kersh said:
Currently we only have one kernel port from S3 and 3 decent roms after one month of the release.
Do you know if anyother developer like siyah or franco are going to make kernels for our device? It is a shame to don't have it
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Gokhan wont develop kernels for note 2, he develops only for phones which he has. Franco has made a lot of kernels for different phones and he doesnt have time. He started development for note 1 but later it was abandoned, with s3 updates was pretty slow comparing with siyah and andreilux kernels. For me stock kernel rooted+stock firmware the best. Amazing performance+battery life

The reason for the "poor" development for the Note 2 is:
It's great, Never before i had an Android-Phone better than this, Very good work by Samsung-Engineers.
It's super fast, smooth, stable and batterylife is extraordinary good.
So, what to improve by the developers?
Customizing with Themes is OK in my eyes. The performance of the Note 2 is outstanding even with Stock-Firmware. No need for Custom Kernel / Rom.
regards

Exactly. There is nothing to develop in an already developed thing.
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There is no documentation or source codes for Exynos devices. Not forgetting that it's a young device. There's a petition for Samsung to release the information, but being proprietary SoC's they don't have to release anything.
A quick google would answer your questions.
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hurricane3d said:
The reason for the "poor" development for the Note 2 is:
It's great, Never before i had an Android-Phone better than this, Very good work by Samsung-Engineers.
It's super fast, smooth, stable and batterylife is extraordinary good.
So, what to improve by the developers?
Customizing with Themes is OK in my eyes. The performance of the Note 2 is outstanding even with Stock-Firmware. No need for Custom Kernel / Rom.
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You do know what XDA is about right?
jujuburi said:
Exactly. There is nothing to develop in an already developed thing.
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Garbage.
Suicidal Chicken said:
There is no documentation or source codes for Exynos devices. Not forgetting that it's a young device. There's a petition for Samsung to release the information, but being proprietary SoC's they don't have to release anything.
A quick google would answer your questions.
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Bingo.

I'm ok to say the note 2 is already perfect but this device need a dpi per app in the samsung firmware.

Why you don't develop then?
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I really wish, but I can't...

Suicidal Chicken said:
There is no documentation or source codes for Exynos devices. Not forgetting that it's a young device. There's a petition for Samsung to release the information, but being proprietary SoC's they don't have to release anything.
A quick google would answer your questions.
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Is this what you're talking about?
"Developers, start your ROM engines! In what is sure to be a boon to the rooted communities for the popular Galaxy Note 2 and the international version of the Galasy S III, Samsung tweeted earlier today that we should "expect full availability of integrated source code for #Exynos 4 family of processors on OrigenBoard by the end of 2012!"
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...nos-4-series-source-code-by-end-of-2012-r1203

bengadget said:
Is this what you're talking about?
"Developers, start your ROM engines! In what is sure to be a boon to the rooted communities for the popular Galaxy Note 2 and the international version of the Galasy S III, Samsung tweeted earlier today that we should "expect full availability of integrated source code for #Exynos 4 family of processors on OrigenBoard by the end of 2012!"
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...nos-4-series-source-code-by-end-of-2012-r1203
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cough *broken source code* cough

Poor Development
May be Note II model has still not landed in the hands of the potential developers. Development may take off in the very near future.

LordManhattan said:
Garbage.
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What is? Stop being a smarta$$! Anyone is entitled to his/her own opinion, and imo in this case I was right.
And what's xda about? It's for so called 'development' for those devices which are basically crap. But no one gives a damn about development for Note 2.
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jujuburi said:
What is? Stop being a smarta$$! Anyone is entitled to his/her own opinion, and imo in this case I was right.
And what's xda about? It's for so called 'development' for those devices which are basically crap. But no one gives a damn about development for Note 2.
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You're entitled to have your own opinion, but this is not about opinion, it's about facts; and your facts are dead wrong.
"It's for so called 'development' for those devices which are basically crap"
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So you're saying that every single Android device out there is crap?
"But no one gives a damn about development for Note 2."
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You do realize that the Note 2 just got released right?
I'm not sure why you are here at all. You do know that XDA is a DEVELOPMENT forum right? If you're not interested in modifying and development, then why are you here?

I was a bit gutted with so few roms out. I pick up my phone in the morning, was gonna tweak and flash tomorrow night.
But after a little though, do I need to? I've not even got it yet. I just wana flash and tweak out of habit. And it's only been out weeks.
I love the resurection rom on my s2, I like the UI. But I was runiing Wanam lite before that and it was good rom, I liked the layout. I'll give it a few weeks, see how it feels, but I'm quite happy that a developer (Wanam) I've used before is up and running on the note 2. It won't have as many developers as the s2 or s3, but I expect more will come.
Xda hasn't let me down yet, alomst six years in,
I have faith that XDA will help me tweak and flash when I need new features.
Thanks to all the devs, on all the phones, especially the note 2 though

Why are U here?
Forums require a few basic social skills and your about junior high level.
Be a big boy and start responding without bring rude.
QUOTE=LordManhattan;33438033]You're entitled to have your own opinion, but this is not about opinion, it's about facts; and your facts are dead wrong.
So you're saying that every single Android device out there is crap?
You do realize that the Note 2 just got released right?
I'm not sure why you are here at all. You do know that XDA is a DEVELOPMENT forum right? If you're not interested in modifying and development, then why are you here?[/QUOTE]
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I pretty much agree....as much as I've loved modding over the years, this device leaves me with the least amount of motivation to tweak it whatsoever. No need for battery saving mods. If your a themefreak well then yeah, I'm not.
CM to me for this device dumbs it down (this from a longtime CM'er)...doesn't bring anything speed wise, and the Samsung Note features are just too cool to forego...(for me)atures
Kernel options are a mute point tho I do enjoy overclocking at times.
Mod's like multitasking unlimited apps are great (for me).
Developing a per app adjustable dpi would be great actually, but not going aosp to do it.
Lotta other minor stuff I could list but, hey....I never thought I'd say it but hats off to Samsung for releasing the first device I've ever been .satisfied with out of the box .

I had Galaxy Note before and many renowned developers there are getting Note 2 before the end of this year and probably we will see boom in developement when those developers get Note2.... among those is is g.lewarne the creator of Hydracore kernels which made Note 1 fly like anything.
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Jelly Bean TW Miui with all S pen functionalites and tricks of Samsung will take Note 2 to another level.
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Jelly Bean TW Miui with all S pen functionalites and tricks of Samsung will take Note 2 to another level.

if it ain't broke don't fix it. I had a galaxy nexus before but at this point I am fully content with the stock device, not even rooted. I feel that since Jelly Bean custom stuff as become less interesting. Installing custom stuff is becoming more a hobby than a requirement.
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Nutsonfire said:
if it ain't broke don't fix it. I had a galaxy nexus before but at this point I am fully content with the stock device, not even rooted. I feel that since Jelly Bean custom stuff as become less interesting. Installing custom stuff is becoming more a hobby than a requirement.
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LordManhattan said:
You're entitled to have your own opinion, but this is not about opinion, it's about facts; and your facts are dead wrong.
So you're saying that every single Android device out there is crap?
You do realize that the Note 2 just got released right?
I'm not sure why you are here at all. You do know that XDA is a DEVELOPMENT forum right? If you're not interested in modifying and development, then why are you here?
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I really don't reply to 'these' meaningless comments but still I'm doing as I've nothing better to do atm.
Why I am here? Well that ain't your business. So get over with it.
I'm saying every Android device is crap? I'll donate you 10000$ if you can find that in my post.
Still I'm saying, yes, not every device is S2, S3, OX or Note 2, and just because God gifted me with plenty of money doesn't mean everyone could purchase these high end toys. There are PLENTY mid and low range Droid exists, and your so called 'development' theory applied to 'those' devices, NOT by any means to the top guns like I mentioned above.
Do you realize Note 2 just got released right? Yes, I do. And frankly, I'm so happy that there isn't much needless stuffs going on in the so called 'development' section, more 'development' means more freaks and kids and it's a damn disgrace for any forum.
In the end, I paid 700 $ to Samsung and they gave me a beautiful device ( Yes, some glitches are there of course, but where doesn't? ) and that's all I care about. I don't want a half baked overhyped crap on my lovely phone, and I like Apple products more than a hormone crazed flashoholic. (No disrespect meant to Apple). Still, some great persons are here, like Chainfire, Hardcore, Supercurio etc, who are attracting persons like me to surf this forum now and then, but the number is few, very few.
One more thing, don't take this forum as your personal property, you are just another user like me with more thanks metre and a pesky tag, things mean the least to me.
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Atrix stable Jellybean ICs port

Hi, first of all i'm really thankful to all atrix dev team n all dev members on xda :good:
they r doing very good job working hard to make people happy we r really appreciate that.. Thanks to all dev :good:
Atrix stable ICs Jellybean port plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

This request has been made on both the ICS and the JB versions. The answer remains the same. Until the 2.6.39.4 kernel is finished being dev'd, all roms are as stable as they can get. There are 3 kernels on the table for the more advanced android versions. 1. The ICS leak kernel. 2. The Galaxy R kernel. 3. The Xoom kernel. The ICS leak kernel is what you see the most of. Galaxy R kernel is more well known than the Xoom kernel dev. Galaxy R kernel dev may be observed in android dev under the ICS/JB kernel thread. The Xoom kernel is a quiet project that is mentioned in either the cm 9 or cm 10 rom that poped up a few days ago. The thread mentions "that kernel" in the thread title, and the user has toyota in their s/n.
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On a lighter(?) note:
I was expecting to see many replies tearing OP a new one. What happened to you Atrix 4G General?

Saw the title and got excited.
What the hell is this? Ban this guy.

I don't even understand what the op planned on accomplishing here.

wwcjr91 said:
I don't even understand what the op planned on accomplishing here.
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I think it was a request for stable ICS or JB port, like somehow requesting it is going to make it happen faster because in the months (14?) since ICS was released, developers have been standing idly by waiting for this one specific request to build a stable ICS or JB ROM.
As for why there wasn't some kind of massive burn, it's kinda like poking a bee hive when all the bees have moved on to a new nest. Oh well, anything to keep this section of the forums alive I guess.

I think the OP was hoping for a good flaming. Trolls gonna troll.

are any of the ICS/JB roms for the Atrix ready for daily usage yet?

Depends on your needs. If you want strictly phone functions and don't care about anything else, then yes.
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lehjr said:
Depends on your needs. If you want strictly phone functions and don't care about anything else, then yes.
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But then why would you feel the need to upgrade?

CptAJ said:
But then why would you feel the need to upgrade?
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Because some people are stuck with the device and want to at least have the chance to try ICS or JB themselves, especially since ICS was officially released over a year ago. For some people the basic functionality of ICS or JB is worth losing camera/ camcorder, and hardware acceleration, or at least until they find they need those for something. For me it was fun to try, and a bit depressing to have to revert back to GB, but the loss of camera/camcorder functionality was too much and the things I wanted ICS for in the first place just didn't work.

TeamEos joins CodeFireX - discussion and testing

bigrushdog said:
Ohai! Here's the deal. I pulled the plug on the Eos project for a few reasons. First, I became unable to maintain the quality of the project while having to deal with countless internal systems issues and doing branch and build maintenance. Second, I didn't have control of the servers and other various resources, like the Goo account. That's why I couldn't get rid of the last two derped builds. Third, I'd rather focus on innovation than dealing with all the internal AOSP build system stuff. As of now, it appears the Eos servers are offline. Which is fine because i have the repository on numerous boxes and right here on my laptop. Finally, I was no longer enjoying Androiding. I NEEDED SOME FRESH ENERGY! Virtually the entire Eos team has already migrated to the new project and got their respective devices up and running! I put about 40 hours a week into Android and I needed to find some guys who have similar time to dedicate to a project. And that team is CodeFireX, lead by Synergy.
A little about Synergy, founder and new combined project team leader. Synergy is a linux guru. He is a master of the aosp build system and talented C programmer. Synergy leads the AOSP scene in innovative new optimization techniques and build solutions. TeamEos has worked closely with Synergy and CodeFireX for a while now. So the decision for us to migrate over to CFX made perfect sense.
When I drop some test builds, you will notice that, indeed, it is a new project, with some new philosophy. There is more CyanogenMod resources in this project. Particularly, some of the CyanogenMod apps including the CMFileManager and Apollo, the CM music player. We are also using the open source Superuser solution from Koush. "Why is this?" "Won't it look like a kang build?" Well, yes. But this project will be the one getting kanged. Like Eos, this project started with a pure AOSP base. I have been surgical in bringing in select desired resources from other teams. Synergy embraces the philosophy of having a solid build without a gapps package installed. In light of recent revelations regarding government surveillance, many people are enjoying Android without the Google Services. We want to provide a build that caters to these wise individuals. And, we feel that the open source CyanogenMod resources are the best. You will "feel" Eos in this build. The Eos spirit lives on in CFX. Always remember, it's not about team names, it's about people.
We now have a wealth of new resources to provide to our users. We have dedicated hosting in which downloading builds will be smoking fast. We have SERIOUS bandwidth. We also have a new forum in which we can provide users with tools that go beyond XDA support. However, I will continue to maintain XDA threads, of course. We have a sophisticated new ChangeLog scheme. And we now use Phabricator instead of Gerrit for project review.
Xoom users face a challenge now. Because of optimization, the build is rather large. Optimization increases the size of libraries and binaries. So, in order to get a successful Xoom build, I have to really "unbloat" the build. This is due to the Xoom having such a small system partition. And that brings us to gapps. Many of you know, CyanogenMod has made the decision to discontinue support on "non-neon" devices. The Xoom is one such device. The reason for this is mostly because Google is discontinuing support of non-neon devices as well. So, for now, I don't have a solid gapps solution. But i'll come up with something, I always do ;D
Test Builds: I should have round 1 up soon. First rounds will be no gapps and meant to simply test core functionality and hardware.
I truly hope you guys enjoy the new project. Besides, it's time to get some fresh ENERGY back in the Xoom scene anyway!
Stay tuned
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(Taken from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2372197)
That said, welcome to the evolution of TeamEOS - CodefireX or more to say the CodefireXperiment!
Randall (bigrushdog) and me worked hard the last weeks to get the TF101 supported properly with CodefireXperiment, as we promised all devices supported by EOS will be supported by CFX, too .
I finally achieved a mostly working build yesterday, with main hardware working and I couldn't find any issues that EOS hasn't had.
I also ran some benchmarks and compared them to the latest EOS builds (the good ones, not the borked of course) with the help of @Roach2010, EOS and CodefireX team member and the original EOS on TF101 developer. We came to the conclusiion that CFX will give you a roughly estimated 10% performance boost, mostly notable for CPU and I/O performance.
So here I am, to share the first test build with the TF101 community!
Test build #1 - Download
Credits go to the original TeamEOS, and of course the new CodefireX team!
Special thanks go to @bigrushdog for helping me with TF101 bringup (mostly frameworks stuff, I really suck at that) and in general for being a nice team member who is always there for a chat, @synergye for leading the new team and bringing one HELL of optimizations to the new ROM and thus to the TF101. Thank him for the performance boost! @timduru also deserves at least a massive special thanks for assisting and contributing back in EOS times, sadly he didn't move over to CodefireX due to various reasons. However, we all know he enhanced EOS and especially the TF101 to an extend noone of us could have achieved on his own.

Tried this out this evening. Seems pretty good, but minimal, so far. Will check back again after some more work is done.

Pleasure to see you back Chris :good:

Let's test it!
Where to look for changelog, and stuff like "merged" "opened" ... as in Teamos ?

Cool!
I'm still using the last builds of Eos4 on both my Nexus7 and tf101. Both work so well I have a difficult time moving on to anything else, but i'm gonna give this a shot and see how I like it. Thanks for continuing to work on Android for us!

I wonder how long this will last.

Any screenshots?
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Have to say i forgot i still had the test build on my TF. Still going strong without a single issue to report. Hopefully get RaymanFX back with us for another stint seen as hes not allowed to move on and have a life of his own :laugh:

st0nedpenguin said:
I wonder how long this will last.
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Looks like it was over before it ever really got started.
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just lou said:
Looks like it was over before it ever really got started.
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Yup sad but true
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I've noticed quite a bit of development for alot of other devices from CodefireX, but I have not seen anything for the TF101 or any other Asus tablet. Have they abandoned this device line or just really slow to work on it? Timduru since returning from vacation has been a madman and has released not only multiple updates on the 4.2.2 chain but has moved the device onto a stable 4.3 ROM by himself.
Not criticizing here just curious.

Banetbc said:
I've noticed quite a bit of development for alot of other devices from CodefireX, but I have not seen anything for the TF101 or any other Asus tablet. Have they abandoned this device line or just really slow to work on it? Timduru since returning from vacation has been a madman and has released not only multiple updates on the 4.2.2 chain but has moved the device onto a stable 4.3 ROM by himself.
Not criticizing here just curious.
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This project appears to have been abandoned. At least in terms of the TF101. Not a big deal. timduru has 4.3 fully working on the TF.
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just lou said:
This project appears to have been abandoned. At least in terms of the TF101. Not a big deal. timduru has 4.3 fully working on the TF.
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Agreed. It seems like some of us saw this coming...

frederuco said:
Agreed. It seems like some of us saw this coming...
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Yeah fx moved on a while ago in not sure why he comes back fur a tease then leaves again
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zachf714 said:
Yeah fx moved on a while ago in not sure why he comes back fur a tease then leaves again
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I don't know either. He abandoned all his TF projects, then comes back only to tease a new project that never materialized.
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just lou said:
I don't know either. He abandoned all his TF projects, then comes back only to tease a new project that never materialized.
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Yeah .. I teased 1 project on accident just because I ended up not having time to fully complete it (PAC)
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Well, they did quite a bit at one point or another for our tablets, and it was based on their own time and interest, so I'm not slamming them for moving on to other things, although I am a bit disappointed that they would make the noise of supporting it and nearly completely ignoring it (they did put out a test build).
And I agree, Timduru's builds have been phenominal, I just hope he was able to enjoy his vacation since he's been back, the boy seems to be working like a dog....er a meercat.

Banetbc said:
Well, they did quite a bit at one point or another for our tablets, and it was based on their own time and interest, so I'm not slamming them for moving on to other things, although I am a bit disappointed that they would make the noise of supporting it and nearly completely ignoring it (they did put out a test build).
And I agree, Timduru's builds have been phenominal, I just hope he was able to enjoy his vacation since he's been back, the boy seems to be working like a dog....er a meercat.
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I do agree with you 100% .. In not slamming them or "bashing" them at all
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zachf714 said:
I do agree with you 100% .. In not slamming them or "bashing" them at all
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They did good things but it would have been nice to at least say they were not going to continue. Checking that crazy change log has been a pain.
We have to thank Tim for the work but I don't think he will be able too keep it up alone he will burn out trying. He is a great guy.

Which is timdru's most recent stable Rom ,um currently using team eos b202 with kat kernel and it's rock solid and would only change if I can get similar on 4.3,
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