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Ok i just ordered a nexus one unlocked and i was wondering, Will i receive updates OTA from Google? I live in the middle east.
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I don't see why you wouldn't.
Most people say that the carrier T-mobile or others have released a update..they never say google has released an update
With it being an unlocked phone, I don't think it's going to matter which carrier you're on, it'll just be pushed directly to the phone.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Or should i root the nexus one and stick with custom ROMs, i did it with my G1 but i'm afraid it will get bricked! and then i have to spend 528$ on it again.
I believe it will matter which carrier youre on, just as it does for the G1, when you get your update depends on when your carrier pushes it out. However if you root it you can always apply the new roms, which usually come out earlier anyways. Other than that im not sure. It also may be that google will put the updates out for download like htc does.
We didn't buy from a carrier we bought an unlocked phone from google. This is why google made their own phone - because carriers are months late in pushing updates.. if they ever do. It's not analagous to the G1, which had to be sourced via a carrier.
I guess ill just wait until there is a new update and see if my nexus one gets updated, if not then i'm going to root thanks!
Well, I was checking something and noticed there is no more Tmo US HD2 on tmobile.com ... so far it was showing only Temporarily Out of Stock but it seems Tmobile pulled the plug as they probably had limited availability.
The site said the same thing when I wanted to purchase it, so I headed to a local RadioShack and they had it in stock. If you do want to purchase it at Radioshack, make sure you call to have them check stock, these bad boys sell out quick
Ya I see that too. They might be updating the site to show that the phone is in stock now. Or you may be right and T-Mobile US is no longer selling them. This post should probably be moved to the T-Mobile US HD2 forum.
So finally my gf is going to get her first smartphone!!! I think I am moreexcited about it than she is.... big steps in life..
anyways I had suggested the aria for her...well the only way to get it now is through att online.. not in any stores as they are going to discontinue it...
my question is I have been reading so far that it cannot be rooted and hacked once its been updated... is that like a forever thing? or can it be downgraded then flashed?
also does anyone know if it comes from att online already updated and set up?
I dont want her to get this phone if it is completely locked down...
the only other phones I suggested are the atrix and inspire.. however she likes the phones but she thinks they are just too big..
right now it looks like the atrix is going to be the way to go.... especially if this phone comes updated and unrootable.....
please any thought would help out.. especially if anyone knows if att updates the phone before they mail it to you.
thanks,
Nsomnia
Nsomnia911 said:
So finally my gf is going to get her first smartphone!!! I think I am moreexcited about it than she is.... big steps in life..
anyways I had suggested the aria for her...well the only way to get it now is through att online.. not in any stores as they are going to discontinue it...
my question is I have been reading so far that it cannot be rooted and hacked once its been updated... is that like a forever thing? or can it be downgraded then flashed?
also does anyone know if it comes from att online already updated and set up?
I dont want her to get this phone if it is completely locked down...
the only other phones I suggested are the atrix and inspire.. however she likes the phones but she thinks they are just too big..
right now it looks like the atrix is going to be the way to go.... especially if this phone comes updated and unrootable.....
please any thought would help out.. especially if anyone knows if att updates the phone before they mail it to you.
thanks,
Nsomnia
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If it comes from AT&T with the Froyo 2.2 update applied, then it will be un-rootable, even if you downgrade back to 2.1.
If they are discontinuing the Aria, then I would say the chances are that the current stock on hand does not have the Froyo 2.2 update on it are very good and it's worth taking a chance on.
A couple things:
Are you starting new service with AT&T, or eligible for an upgrade and thus getting the phone at a discounted/free price OR
Are you paying full no-commitment pricing as you are already AT&T customer?
Either way, you might want to look at http://wireless.amazon.com/HTC-Aria-Android-Phone-AT/dp/B003RCJA6S/ref=sh_br_ph_12?ie=UTF8&transaction=INDIVIDUAL_NEW. Their price is good if you are buying the phone outright, it's where I purchased mine. You can also start new service or do upgrades via them as well I think. Their return policy is also sweet, you get up to 30 days to return the phone in case your girlfriend doesn't like it.
Mine came with Android 2.1 OS and I had it rooted and a custom ROM loaded on within an hour of opening the box!
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If it comes from AT&T with the Froyo 2.2 update applied, then it will be un-rootable, even if you downgrade back to 2.1.
If they are discontinuing the Aria, then I would say the chances are that the current stock on hand does not have the Froyo 2.2 update on it are very good and it's worth taking a chance on.
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Mine was purchased through the online store and it had 2.1 on it. So the chances are quite good you'll be able to root.
woodbane said:
A couple things:
Are you starting new service with AT&T, or eligible for an upgrade and thus getting the phone at a discounted/free price OR
Are you paying full no-commitment pricing as you are already AT&T customer?
Either way, you might want to look at http://wireless.amazon.com/HTC-Aria-Android-Phone-AT/dp/B003RCJA6S/ref=sh_br_ph_12?ie=UTF8&transaction=INDIVIDUAL_NEW. Their price is good if you are buying the phone outright, it's where I purchased mine. You can also start new service or do upgrades via them as well I think. Their return policy is also sweet, you get up to 30 days to return the phone in case your girlfriend doesn't like it.
Mine came with Android 2.1 OS and I had it rooted and a custom ROM loaded on within an hour of opening the box!
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This is what I did and the phone came with 2.1. that was 6 weeks ago. Rooted and rommed...
So wait - if the phone has been updated to 2.2, it can NEVER be rooted and modded, like EVER?
That may change my eBay buying habits for this phone...
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So wait - if the phone has been updated to 2.2, it can NEVER be rooted and modded, like EVER?
That may change my eBay buying habits for this phone...
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Its possible it may never happen. It all depends on whether someone figures out how to crack the newer hboot.
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Its possible it may never happen. It all depends on whether someone figures out how to crack the newer hboot.
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Oooh. That's scary.
You might try HERE. They are listed as having the 2.1 OS.
I need it unlocked to use up here in Canada - hence my worry about it coming with 2.2 on it. I'm just going to try to communicate with the eBay sellers and hope they know what they are talking about.
Unlocking a phone for use on other carriers is completely separate from rooting and installing custom ROMs. You can unlock a phone that has AT&T official 2.2 update on it.
Yeah, but wouldn't I be stuck with a bunch of AT&T apps I could never use in Canada?
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Either way, you might want to look at http://wireless.amazon.com/HTC-Aria-Android-Phone-AT/dp/B003RCJA6S/ref=sh_br_ph_12?ie=UTF8&transaction=INDIVIDUAL_NEW. Their price is good if you are buying the phone outright, it's where I purchased mine. You can also start new service or do upgrades via them as well I think. Their return policy is also sweet, you get up to 30 days to return the phone in case your girlfriend doesn't like it.
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Thank you so much for this link! I've been looking at the Aria as my first Android phone, but AT&T only offers a refurbished one as an upgrade. I could get the refurb Aria for $0 or an Inspire for $99 through AT&T. Like the OP's girlfriend, I don't like the size of the Inspire. Also looked at the Captivate, but it seems big too.
At Amazon, I got a new Aria for $50. They added the extra data plan at checkout. Should get it Tuesday.
Hmm, seems that Google won't even let you order the 16GB version anymore. I was going to order one yesterday after I gave up trying to find one locally. I had it in my cart ready for checkout but didn't have my wallet on me as I wanted to put it on a different card than the one tied to Google Play account. However in a bit of laziness I figured I would just order it tomorrow (today) as placing the order Sat night vs Sun Morning really wasn't going to matter much in terms of when it would come. So I get my card, sit down at my computer to now discover that the add to cart button has been replaced by "Notify Me". You can still order the 8GB version but not the 16. Grrr. I would rather have the ability to order it and tell me it will be a couple weeks.
Oh well back to my Nook Color and Thunderbolt.
Anyone else able to still order?
Well if they are having trouble keeping up with orders then it makes sense to be honest about it, rather than let people order then say 'oh by the way we won't have any for weeks'. After the fiasco with the pre-orders it makes a lot more sense. I presume it is temporary until they catch up with all the pre-orders.
And to answer your question the UK playshop also has a 'notify me' button.
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I am sure it is a temp issue of demand far exceeding supply with the 16 GB version. Add in the fact that there are always going to be units shipped that need to be replaced for whatever reason which we have seen reports on and I get that it will be a while. I just am kicking myself for not walking out to my shop on Sat night to grab my wallet. For me it is easier than sitting around waiting for an email from them saying it is OK to place an order. I get so many emails it is pretty likely that I will miss it. So I will likely just keep an eye out in Google Play to see if it pops up from time to time.
I haven't read all posts on this thread but as far as i know if your trying to order it online for local pick-up. I know for sure that Walmart can ship to store if you request it, honestly i need 4x 32gb sdcards and i ordered thru walmart and had it send to my local store for pick-up.
Another thing is amazon, they're a lot cheaper plus they have deals on shipping. Im not sure if this post is helpful at all, but please give positive feedback to me. im a noobie to forums but i do know what im talking about
Oh god this better not affect my replacement unit that I've requested to replace my faulty 16gb unit from the play store. Friggin one line of dead pixels across the bottom of the screen.
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I haven't read all posts on this thread but as far as i know if your trying to order it online for local pick-up. I know for sure that Walmart can ship to store if you request it, honestly i need 4x 32gb sdcards and i ordered thru walmart and had it send to my local store for pick-up.
Another thing is amazon, they're a lot cheaper plus they have deals on shipping. Im not sure if this post is helpful at all, but please give positive feedback to me. im a noobie to forums but i do know what im talking about
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No I was wondering why they pulled the ability to order from Google Play. I was looking locally but couldn't find anything so I was going to just order off
Play and wait for it. However while I could order the 8GB version the 16GB would only say let me know when it is available. This has been confirmed by the CNN article that popped up today.
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Earlier today I tried again and saw I could now order it but didn't have the card with me as I normally don't use it. So when I get home I jump on the computer to try and order. Back to send me an email when available. grrrr. Well I just tried again and it let me place the order. It is confirmed in my Google Wallet so we will see how long it sits there. It is kind of odd that the issue seems to come and go. Sometimes you can order and other times you can't. So if you want to wait for the email you have that option if you get that message. Or you can keep trying and it may take your order. I went back through all the emails sent to my Gmail account that I set up notification with and still no email from Google saying it was available for order.
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No I was wondering why they pulled the ability to order from Google Play. I was looking locally but couldn't find anything so I was going to just order off
Play and wait for it. However while I could order the 8GB version the 16GB would only say let me know when it is available. This has been confirmed by the CNN article that popped up today.
CNN link
Earlier today I tried again and saw I could now order it but didn't have the card with me as I normally don't use it. So when I get home I jump on the computer to try and order. Back to send me an email when available. grrrr. Well I just tried again and it let me place the order. It is confirmed in my Google Wallet so we will see how long it sits there. It is kind of odd that the issue seems to come and go. Sometimes you can order and other times you can't. So if you want to wait for the email you have that option if you get that message. Or you can keep trying and it may take your order. I went back through all the emails sent to my Gmail account that I set up notification with and still no email from Google saying it was available for order.
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oh ok haha i miss read it. sorry
Well as I suspected still no email from Google saying I can order it but I did get confirmation and a tracking number showing my 16GB has shipped. The email request was sent to a different email address than my Google one. So it isn't like they skipped sending me the notification because I already bought one.
I should have it tomorrow at the earliest or more likely on Monday.
Woke up this am to a shiny new email from VZW about my N4 order. Not that it was shipped, but that it was canceled.
Anyone else get one of these? On the phone at the moment to find out why, currently on hold, don't think they know why.
That is ironic. I canceled my N4 preorder with VZW and they asked me twice, "Are you SURE you want to cancel it?". They zap yours without you even calling or asking you once.
Just got off the phone with them. Never did give me a reason, they just 'released' it and I should be getting info on when it should be shipped.
From what I've been reading on here, it may be going back unopened. Without root, I won't touch it. May go with the Nexus 6. Will hurt getting a phone without SD card support, and love the SPen, but root is more important.
While typing this, VZW just called me back and told me that the order cannot be released and that I will have to re-order it online.
They did me the same way I don't understand them
I am holding on to a .00000000001% hope that root will happen by November 1st, since the last day of the Best Buy $200 offer. No root by then, I will cancel that order too. No card writes is not an option for the apps I use.
Sad I have to base my decision not on the device, but Android's arrogant and blatant cattle prodding efforts of trying to kill sd cards. Nexus does not have them, so neither should other devices- in their minds.
Same thing happened to me. I ended up calling and they told me it was fraud because we ordered 4 high end phones and the same time (2 Iphone 6 64GB and 2 Note 4). They then had to recreate my preorder. Now i am sitting in limbo waiting for my tracking info.
BTW, those that had theirs canceled, did you order through Edge? MIne was through Edge.
Mine got zapped as well. Had to call them and re-order it using EDGE program as my contract wasn't up yet.
Thankfully it was early enough where I could still get it ordered and delivered on the 23rd.
I was not on edge, but I was going to have it on my bill.
I'm fine with the cancel now. I don't know what is going to happen with root. If they root it wonderful, but what happens if/when Lollipop comes to it?? I think I'm just going to shell out the cash and get the dev version.
Well, there goes my theory that there was a hiccup with the Edge orders. =p I'm just glad VZW was able to fix all the cancellations.
Just had 4 N4s handed to me that I have to setup for people here at work. I want one, but, if there is no root, wont be getting one.
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I was not on edge, but I was going to have it on my bill.
I'm fine with the cancel now. I don't know what is going to happen with root. If they root it wonderful, but what happens if/when Lollipop comes to it?? I think I'm just going to shell out the cash and get the dev version.
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I'm pretty confident that there will be root for this phone. Idk why people are so worried...bootloader is a different story
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I think there was a version of the N2 that wasn't rootable, and from what I've heard (may be wrong as I don't care about the phone and never looked into it), the VZW S5 currently isn't rooted. Again, that may be wrong.
I think the phone will get root, but if it gets Lollipop it more than likely wont be rootable.
My order was canceled also when i called and complained they used some jump in line form to redo the order i should get it sometime today according to fed ex
S5 is rootable but boot loader is locked. Or at least last time I checked. Only reason I care about root is for Wi-Fi tether and foxfi fixed that.
Foxfi is important, but for me its more adwaway, titanium backup, Xposed, and xprivacy. Don't think I can use another phone wihout xprivacy.