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[Q] BUild my own tab lol

ok in all seriousness i have an expendable nexus one as well with an expendable cash flow and i want to build a nexus tablet iam 2m qualified so i can do the dirty work just need to know what i should buy to make my own frankinstien starting

If you have all that money then buy something to keep you busy for another 1-2 months until the motorola xoom tablet comes out or something similar, it will be significantly more powerful than anything out now and have honeycomb on it.
I have no idea why I decided to reply to this thread.

Ingredients:
- 1x 10 inch display
- 1x battery
- 1x Tegra 2 chip (pick up a cheap second hand one from a thrift store)
+ Special ingredient
- 1x Nexus One
1) Place all ingredients in a blender on high for 10 seconds.
2) Pour into a plastic tablet mould.
3) Enjoy!
My NexusTab gets Quadrant scores over 4000 with this setup. Try it!

What about this?
cutedigi.com/product_info.php?products_id=4398

Give to charity instead.

There is no such thing as an expendable nexus one

My thoughts exactly @dowace
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You'd probably spend more time, money, and frustration... and more than likely a failed attempt... verse just buying a Tablet whole.
I just bought a Herotab X5A and it fits the bill. Sure not as fast as a nexus but it was only $150. There are lots of Android Tablets on the market today. If I had to do it over, I would probably buy one with a Cortex A8 based processor and a capacitive touch screen.

futuregerald said:
If you have all that money then buy something to keep you busy for another 1-2 months until the motorola xoom tablet comes out or something similar, it will be significantly more powerful than anything out now and have honeycomb on it.
I have no idea why I decided to reply to this thread.
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Haha clever..
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Archos 101 or wait?

Hey all,
I've been shopping android tablets for a couple weeks now. After considering the nook color to the galaxy tab, to the viewsonic G, I am now considering the Archos 101.
A tablet for me is a want. Primary uses would be browsing, reading (kindle app?), movies, some games, and I would like to spend less than 300 ( I've seen used 101's for around 270). I also like to mod/root but this is not a must if the stock UI works well. Did see a little developing here on XDA...A nice dark UI on YouTube.
With that said, my question to current Archos 101/70 owners, is would you buy an Archos today or wait it out for other tabs to come out? (Arnova 10 gngrbread model, Amazon tabs, quad core tegra's)
Love the specs on the 101, but does the limited 256mb of RAM hamper the device, and is there a lack of apps optimized for the nice 10in screen? Is the 101 heavy to hold for long periods of time?
Thanks in advance!

Lttlwing16 said:
1) With that said, my question to current Archos 101/70 owners, is would you buy an Archos today or wait it out for other tabs to come out? (Arnova 10 gngrbread model, Amazon tabs, quad core tegra's)
2) Love the specs on the 101, but does the limited 256mb of RAM hamper the device?
3) Is there a lack of apps optimized for the nice 10in screen?
4) Is the 101 heavy to hold for long periods of time?
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1) I would say for you, condering in you uses above, buy the A101. I own it, and i love it!
This is the best Tabet for browsing,chatting and gaming
You won be able to play the future games in a few months (brand new Samurai II works very well - ths game is for Nvidia Tegra devices)
And the best about Archos and exspecially about the A101 - The Price!
2) A little bit, but you'll accostume this
3) Nope^^ Some games have a little bit crappy graphic but not many (for example Stick Cliff Diving)
4) Nope^^ Its extremly light. Its feel like the half of the iPad.
Special Tip:
If you want Honeycomb and play the future Games, you hould wait until Q4 of '11 untill the "Gen9 - A101" will be released

Awesome thanks!
The kindle app?
Whats the max microsd card it can support? 32gb?

Wait. Or buy a transformer or acer iconia.
101 build quality is iffy at best. Screen is terrible. Current fw is totally flaky.
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gottahavit said:
Wait. Or buy a transformer or acer iconia.
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He said that dont want to spend ore than 300 dollars
Current fw is totally flaky.
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One word:
Urukdroid
1) Awesome thanks!
2) The kindle app?
3) Whats the max microsd card it can support?
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1) No problem
2) I dont read books on my A101 , but i'll test that app and report soon
3) Yep, you're right 32 gb (The first 64 gb card, was just announced) But you have the Usb Host (HDD's and USB Sticks)
Tip:
Cajl (owner of JBMM) recevied a flyer from Archos about a Gen9 Event, if you're interested in that, you should look at it (Theres a Thread around here about this)

the best ereader app for archos is the Nook app. It gives you the freedom of loading in any epub. The kindle app is limited to kindle formatted files. also the nook app has good features. I read alot on my 70it and i have tried just about every app out there. The nook app is the best overall.

Lennb said:
He said that dont want to spend ore than 300 dollars
One word:
Urukdroid
1) No problem
2) I dont read books on my A101 , but i'll test that app and report soon
3) Yep, you're right 32 gb (The first 64 gb card, was just announced) But you have the Usb Host (HDD's and USB Sticks)
Tip:
Cajl (owner of JBMM) recevied a flyer from Archos about a Gen9 Event, if you're interested in that, you should look at it (Theres a Thread around here about this)
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Thanks again to all for their input,
and with that said,
I took a look at the GEN 9 devices already on the net .. They look very nice, but I can't justify 500 dollar price tag for my wants..(really a cool tech toy). However, after the release of Gen 9, perhaps Gen 8 prices will drop some.
I also looked into the Iconia and Transformer, and as mentioned, they're too much in cost. I know they're both awesome, but I would really like to stay in that sub-300 range. I have looked at pretty much all the tablets on the market right now, and the 101 seems to offer the most for the money. Especially with the DARK UI that the user on youtube has put over it.
Thanks to all who looked into the Kindle App. I haven't used the nook app, but I have some books I am reading on my Kindle app on my Samsung Fascinate
I have decided that of the current options available, the 101 is the best option out there for the price. If I were to buy today, I would go with it.
However, with the tablet market so exciting right now, I think I'll work on making a rough man cave in the basement (which will need a new LCD TV) and then look into the tablets towards Q4 , "Black Friday" when I bet there will be better deals.
Just curious, can you add more RAM to the 101?

Lttlwing16 said:
I took a look at the GEN 9 devices already on the net .. They look very nice, but I can't justify 500 dollar price tag for my wants..(really a cool tech toy). However, after the release of Gen 9, perhaps Gen 8 prices will drop some.
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I've heard that the 10.1 model will cost 300 $, but therewill be a 3/4g model, ths will cost more dollars but 500 dollars?
Just curious, can you add more RAM to the 101?
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You have this 2 options:
Compcache - This will comprimise a part of your Ram Memory.
Swap - This will add some extra Mb's of Ram out of the normal Flash Memory.

Lennb said:
I've heard that the 10.1 model will cost 300 $, but therewill be a 3/4g model, ths will cost more dollars but 500 dollars?
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400 Euro which is about 566 US..
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/20/sneak-peek-at-archos-gen-9-tablets-1-6-ghz-dual-core-a9-process/

Those numbers on the Engadget link were posted back in March. I doubt we'll be seeing those as the actual prices.
I would expect to see the prices pretty close to the Gen8 original pricing.

Lttlwing16 said:
400 Euro which is about 566 US..
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/20/sneak-peek-at-archos-gen-9-tablets-1-6-ghz-dual-core-a9-process/
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400 Euro for the 250 GB HDD version
And in the past, Archos sold products for same prices ($=€)
The Prices won't be over 300 dollars for the normal 10.1 Inch variant

good to know, thanks! I guess I'll be waiting!

Do you all think the GEN 8 devices will have some Honeycomb custom ROMS ever? These 101's are going for cheap on ebay, and it's very tempting.

Lttlwing16 said:
Do you all think the GEN 8 devices will have some Honeycomb custom ROMS ever? These 101's are going for cheap on ebay, and it's very tempting.
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I`m a optimist and i say: YES
sibere just did a test, about how much RAM honeycomb need...(Read here at xda)
and it just need 94 MB! The rest is free RAM
But we need the sources, so we dont get Honeycomb until the Q4 of 2011, when google releases the HC Source Code or the Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0) Source Code

Lennb said:
The Prices won't be over 300 dollars for the normal 10.1 Inch variant
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There isn't exactly a guarantee on that one. I would assume that we'll be looking at closer to $350 for the 10" model.
We might get HC on the Gen8 devices, but it won't be until after the HC source is released, and we aren't exactly sure when that will be, so don't expect it any time soon (better to assume it will be later rather than sooner).
Honestly, I don't expect official HC on Gen8, maybe some GB love, but not HC.
Also, the test done was JUST for the system, nothing else. We will be running a lot more than just that. You have to include all of the background things that run, so don't expect there to be more than ~80-100MB free at any given time. Currently we see ~110 at best free on FroYo, so I honestly wouldn't expect more than that.

Harfainx said:
Currently we see ~110 at best free on FroYo, so I honestly wouldn't expect more than that.
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Sometimes i have 140

Lennb said:
Sometimes i have 140
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With absolutely nothing running... I mean with something actually going on.

I've had my 101 for a little bit now and I love it. Kind of wish I would have waited out for the Gen9 version but I still like the Archos and aside from the Market hack it is stock. I am looking to move to something else on it though (UrukDroid).

bluenadas said:
Kind of wish I would have waited out for the Gen9 version.
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Me too but i love my A101

I have an Archos 101 8GB for sale if you are interested. PM me if you are.

Impact of Nexus 10 on third-party Tablet makers?

I am wondering if hardware companies will have less incentive of making 10" Android tablets now that Google is making their own? Does that mean we won't see an Asus Transformer v4 in the future, for example?

Techie2012 said:
I am wondering if hardware companies will have less incentive of making 10" Android tablets now that Google is making their own? Does that mean we won't see an Asus Transformer v4 in the future, for example?
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Arent there already 4 models of the Transformer out now?
If anything Id expect 3rd party people to step up their game and not make anymore ****ty spec'ed tablets. Its time to move to the newest hardware.

EniGmA1987 said:
Arent there already 4 models of the Transformer out now?
If anything Id expect 3rd party people to step up their game and not make anymore ****ty spec'ed tablets. Its time to move to the newest hardware.
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Yeah I agree, we may not see alot of tablets comign out with the screen res that the n10 has i'd expect alot of tablet with the 1920x1080 screen in the transformer infinity. I think most makers will wait for the tegra 4 processor to come out before we see anything substantial being released, I'd say the N10 will be the master of the domain for at least 6 months.

well i beleive we will see new processors ,the tegra 3 is obvious a medium choice for tablets cpu.
i believe we will see tablets with s4 pro ,exynos cpu and 2gb ram as untill now 1 gb is standard ,for resolution i believe may devs will own a nexus 10 so many apps will go up to nexus 10 resolution in the near future and so new tablets will have the same as nexus 10.
the only thing that i find a little disturbing on nexus is the missing sd slot so new tabs may have a future over nexus 10 ...

Techie2012 said:
I am wondering if hardware companies will have less incentive of making 10" Android tablets now that Google is making their own? Does that mean we won't see an Asus Transformer v4 in the future, for example?
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This will definitely put some serious price pressure on the 10-inchers. It's pretty well known that the BOM on the Samsung Note 10.1 is $260, and they have been selling it for $200 over cost. So now the N10 comes out, and the 16gb model has to be sold pretty near cost -- you can compare features and prices with the iPad BOM, and the total has to be pretty close to the msrp. My point is that, as with the N7, Google is shaving margins pretty thin, and competitors will have to follow suit -- even mighty Apple
Josh

MikeBuck said:
Yeah I agree, we may not see alot of tablets comign out with the screen res that the n10 has i'd expect alot of tablet with the 1920x1080 screen in the transformer infinity. I think most makers will wait for the tegra 4 processor to come out before we see anything substantial being released, I'd say the N10 will be the master of the domain for at least 6 months.
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It looks like March will be a big month for tablet fans. The Samsung Galaxy S4, with Exynos 5450, is expected. Surely it would be easier to drop that SoC on a tablet, N10-derived or not, as they already have the experience with the 5250, so I would expect tablets to arrive around the same time. T40 is scheduled for Q1 as well, so we may see some interesting head-to-head competition CES, in two months, will shed a lot of light on what to expect in Q1 2013.
Josh

Techie2012 said:
I am wondering if hardware companies will have less incentive of making 10" Android tablets now that Google is making their own? Does that mean we won't see an Asus Transformer v4 in the future, for example?
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Pretty sure the new Note tablet will be built on the experiences of the old and the Nexus 10.
A 12" 2600k tab with Exynos 5450, 8-core Mali T604 and S-Pen magic, if you can wait 6 months and get an additional $100, you'll be in for a treat. (the 10+" screen is wishful thinking, but isn't that the Samsung way? The next big thing).

Ehh, apple won't have to budge the slightest. Let's all be honest here, as much as we hate them, apple (sadly) appeals to a larger crowd. It has that name brand value. No matter what they put out there, lots of people will buy it.
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Apple will get a run for its money.
Way to go Google :good:

jdog2115 said:
Ehh, apple won't have to budge the slightest. Let's all be honest here, as much as we hate them, apple (sadly) appeals to a larger crowd. It has that name brand value. No matter what they put out there, lots of people will buy it.
Sent from my HTC ReZound rocking Nils business sense 3.6
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They will always have a large flock of sheep, but it won't be a larger crowd for long. There is going to be a lag between the growth of Android tablets shipped and the growth of quality apps -- as developers are drawn to the platform and have to train up -- but as Android users takes the biggest slice of the market, the maturity of both hardware and software development will improve.
Apple's problem is attracting new customers; they may be selling more tablets, but many are to existing users.
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BoneXDA said:
Pretty sure the new Note tablet will be built on the experiences of the old and the Nexus 10.
A 12" 2600k tab with Exynos 5450, 8-core Mali T604 and S-Pen magic, if you can wait 6 months and get an additional $100, you'll be in for a treat. (the 10+" screen is wishful thinking, but isn't that the Samsung way? The next big thing).
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As much as I crave the N10, I feel I'll be happier in the long-term waiting for the next big thing. Besides, I think my budget Lenovo A2109 is a great tab. My guess is that it compares poorly even in performance, but I just bought it a couple months ago, so I can bask in the upgrade for a while longer .

jdog2115 said:
Ehh, apple won't have to budge the slightest. Let's all be honest here, as much as we hate them, apple (sadly) appeals to a larger crowd. It has that name brand value. No matter what they put out there, lots of people will buy it.
Sent from my HTC ReZound rocking Nils business sense 3.6
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So, going 16:9 on the iPhone isn't budging? The very existence of the iPad mini?
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[Q] Wait for next gen or buy Nexus 10?

Hey guys, just wondering if i should wait for the next generation of the Nexus 10 tablet or just buy this one. And any estimate on when the next one will be out? Because i can wait if necessary

There were rumors of the next gen, but then those rumors died down. I personally think the next gen wont be out till end of 2013

We know that the Nexus 7 is getting a new model this summer, no info yet as to the Nexus 10 but I doubt it will get an upgrade this quickly, the tablet only came out 5 months ago. I think the rumors were it would get an upgrade to the Exynos Octo processor, but those rumors were months ago and I doubt they had much truth to begin with. Either way it seems like if that ever was the plan, it isnt going to happen anymore
We may find out more info on the new N7 model, a possible N10 model, and probably the next Android version next month at Google IO

Alright thanks for the replies, so i have an oppertunity to buy a nexus 10 for $400 from a local guy, should i take it? How is the dual core processor compared to a quad? Thats one of the things i was concerned about, and how long do you think this nexus 10 will be good for? (Futureproof)

talha746 said:
Alright thanks for the replies, so i have an oppertunity to buy a nexus 10 for $400 from a local guy, should i take it? How is the dual core processor compared to a quad? Thats one of the things i was concerned about, and how long do you think this nexus 10 will be good for? (Futureproof)
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There are a lot of synthetic benchmarks around showing performance. The general consensus is that the processor is pretty darn good for the current gen. I'm sure there will be lots of releases in 2013 that will blow it out of the water. So future proof is a very hard thing to gauge. You might say that with the meteoric rise of ARM chips that you simply can't get a future proof mobile device at all.
In the real world I have found the power under the hood in the nexus to be great. I have no trouble watching full HD video and gaming is good too. Probably the final word on future proof from a mobile device is going Nexus. You wont spend ages sitting around waiting for OS updates and carrier updates and manufacturer updates.

eli.kennedy said:
There are a lot of synthetic benchmarks around showing performance. The general consensus is that the processor is pretty darn good for the current gen. I'm sure there will be lots of releases in 2013 that will blow it out of the water. So future proof is a very hard thing to gauge. You might say that with the meteoric rise of ARM chips that you simply can't get a future proof mobile device at all.
In the real world I have found the power under the hood in the nexus to be great. I have no trouble watching full HD video and gaming is good too. Probably the final word on future proof from a mobile device is going Nexus. You wont spend ages sitting around waiting for OS updates and carrier updates and manufacturer updates.
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Alright and do you think its a good deal for $390? And hows battery life? Any roms to make the batter life better? Also if anyone knows, how much does it effect the electricity bill, probably less than a couple dollars a month right?

talha746 said:
Alright thanks for the replies, so i have an oppertunity to buy a nexus 10 for $400 from a local guy, should i take it? How is the dual core processor compared to a quad? Thats one of the things i was concerned about, and how long do you think this nexus 10 will be good for? (Futureproof)
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The amount of cores don't matter as much as the actual speed of those cores. When comparing the Exynos 5 Dual chip in the N10 against the Tegra 3 Quad-core chip in the N7, the Exynos 5 destroys it. The Exynos 5 is also a newer CPU architecture (A15) as well, and currently, there's either very few other devices, or none at all publicly available that have such a chip.
The N10 should go a good while (longer than the current N7 and N4) with how well it can run later Android versions, just due to the specs alone. Also this tablet was (may still be) the best device supported on AOSP (I think all hardware is open-source aside from 1 thing), which is nice for custom ROM's and Kernels.
Battery life is decent. It mainly depends on how you plan on using it though, but I didn't really have any complaints about mine.

So should i buy it for $390? And how can i get free books on it? Thanks a lot guys

talha746 said:
So should i buy it for $390? And how can i get free books on it? Thanks a lot guys
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If its in new condition I would buy it. I'm guessing its the 16gb version? Just make sure everything is working properly. It would also help if it came with a purchase receipt.
For books just download them in PDFs and transfer to your tab.
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/23/samsung-exynos-5-octa-5420-hands-on/

Google Pixel C will be the next 10 inch tablet!

Good Google didn't give up on large tablets.
[Exclusive] Google Pixel C 10.2" Tablet With 308ppi, Detachable Keyboard, Lightbar, And Android Marshmallow Coming Later This Year
The Pixel C Is Official, Available 'In The Coming Months' Starting At $499
$499 for the 32GB and $599 for 64GB. $150 for the keyboard. Coming in months. No specific date.

$499 for the 32gb, not 699.

peachpuff said:
$499 for the 32gb, not 699.
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Been corrected.
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Does it have expandable memory?

yrtrnc said:
Does it have expandable memory?
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Nope.
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peachpuff said:
$499 for the 32gb, not 699.
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Too much...

peachpuff said:
$499 for the 32gb, not 699.
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When will it be available? Good that it's now android not chrome.

johnw7 said:
When will it be available? Good that it's now android not chrome.
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They only say it will be available in coming months. No other details provided. I suspect they are trying to have it out before Christmas. Probably November IMHO.

Darnell_Chat_TN said:
Nope.
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It's so useless and overpriced. Just get a good quality windows tablet so you can have an actual full computer. Expand the storage, multi-task, install older REAL games from steam.

Locklear308 said:
It's so useless and overpriced. Just get a good quality windows tablet so you can have an actual full computer. Expand the storage, multi-task, install older REAL games from steam.
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Personally, that's not why I use a table. And I have a laptop for full computer needs. Table suits my needs for what I use it to do. I'm wondering why they didn't offer a 128GB model.

Darnell_Chat_TN said:
Personally, that's not why I use a table. And I have a laptop for full computer needs. Table suits my needs for what I use it to do. I'm wondering why they didn't offer a 128GB model.
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Well just for watching/listening to YouTube (sips, gamegrumps etc) and browsing the web at the same time. Once they add split screen and true background multitasking we can talk
Lol you said table

Locklear308 said:
Well just for watching/listening to YouTube (sips, gamegrumps etc) and browsing the web at the same time. Once they add split screen and true background multitasking we can talk
Lol you said table
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Long as you know what I meant. I do a bit more than that, but to each their own. Use what suits you .

The money it costs to get one of these, you could get a nice-ish laptop... Seems like a waste of money in my opinion, but I understand people like to just pick up a thin, light tablet and lie in bed with it and watch things without worrying about the weight, fans, etc of a laptop. Hmmmm. Maybe you can pick up one for about $300 on ebay in a year or two...

32GB is not enough space.
Being a gamer and carrying all my ports and roms with me.
NO not enough.

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32GB is not enough space.
Being a gamer and carrying all my ports and roms with me.
NO not enough.
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Well they do have a 64GB model, if that helps any.
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It's gonna be the most coolest tablet. Waiting fo new 3D graphic "shark" Nvidea Tegra X gonna rock!

Damm i can't wait for this amazing tablet ... This will be my next tablet for 100% sure.
They say it can compete with a laptop if you use it for office purposes ( not gaming-ish ).
I'm a blogger and app developer so it will be awesome !
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Well just for watching/listening to YouTube (sips, gamegrumps etc) and browsing the web at the same time. Once they add split screen and true background multitasking we can talk
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It's a Google device so you are guaranteed by high development and in many custom roms split screen and background multitasking is implented.
Don't worry this device will be amazing.
Chromebook Pixel and Chromebook Pixel 2 are two very high end devices.
Now they finally made it to Android were there is not much high end tablets available.
This one will be a innovation and will start a new market where Android tablets can perform like an office laptop ( not pc gaming ofc ) while it still profits all the amazing android original tablet purposes

So, I paid almost that much for my Note 10.1 when released, but I don't think I'll go for another expensive Android tablet. The price is getting close to Surface Pro range.

Note10.1Dude said:
So, I paid almost that much for my Note 10.1 when released, but I don't think I'll go for another expensive Android tablet. The price is getting close to Surface Pro range.
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Those are two different kinds of products though. Those who buy Pixel C are not the kind of people who would be interested to Surface Pro.
I bought the Note 10.1 too, *exactly* because I didn't want another laptop and the "desktop experience". If I want the desktop experience that is also very portable I buy an Ultrabook, it's cheaper than Surface pro and easier to use for "Desktop experience"...

Elya_Dragon said:
Damm i can't wait for this amazing tablet ... This will be my next tablet for 100% sure.
They say it can compete with a laptop if you use it for office purposes ( not gaming-ish ).
I'm a blogger and app developer so it will be awesome !
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Pukes rainbow colors.
That price for a office work machine is a rippoff.
GG WP.
No gaming capability = not for me.