Could anyone please explain what might have caused this?
I guess it is because of a bad car cradle charger.
The phone is clearly burnt inside out in between the Microphone port and the charging connector.
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Be careful with your accessories.
your s3 is popular by now its all over the internet
I don't think Samsung have released any information about the cause.
whyandroiddude said:
Could anyone please explain what might have caused this?
I guess it is because of a bad car cradle charger.
The phone is clearly burnt inside out in between the Microphone port and the charging connector.
Be careful with your accessories.
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You just fried the IC .. did u use an iPhone car charger ?
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whyandroiddude said:
Could anyone please explain what might have caused this?
I guess it is because of a bad car cradle charger.
The phone is clearly burnt inside out in between the Microphone port and the charging connector.
Be careful with your accessories.
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This is the famous pic (already on the internet for some weeks)...isn´t it?! It is not a new accident, is it?!
whyandroiddude said:
Could anyone please explain what might have caused this?
I guess it is because of a bad car cradle charger.
The phone is clearly burnt inside out in between the Microphone port and the charging connector.
I feel for you.....what kind of car charger did you use?
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He never said it's his phone. Just another day late and dollar short, REPOST x a million.
To answer OP.
Cheapcar charger, no heat sink/current regulation.
Plus metal point.
Equals overheating and eventual short.
Which == 'explosion'
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Actually Samsung did investigations about the root cause and the result was, that the device was dried in a microwave oven beforehand. This damaged some of the electrics and caused the fault when charging.
I have some German sources for this:
http://www.netzwelt.de/news/92769-samsung-galaxy-s3-brandursache-war-offenbar-mikrowelle.html
^^^ Bahahaha wtf!
(if the mircowave is realy true)
Thats pretty hilariousauce.
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He never said it's his phone. Just another day late and dollar short, REPOST x a million.
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Im just so jealous you have my favorite car. ;p
i wanna know what the hell you do for a living lmao. career ideas for college bound students. haha
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locoboi187 said:
Im just so jealous you have my favorite car. ;p
i wanna know what the hell you do for a living lmao. career ideas for college bound students. haha
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Well, I'm on here, so clearly I'm a tech geek (hah). My official title is global quality manager, but who the hell really knows what that means...
Interesting on the German "microwave" claim article, I'd like to read more on how they came to that root cause conclusion.
Just to note here, as I happen to be a member on the forum that this was originally posted and I know the user as well.
His phone was not connected to a charger when this happened. It was connected to a car holder. NO CHARGER AT ALL.
So whatever caused it to happen, it was the phone itself and not some third party charger.
That being said, he did say it could have been from his cars heater. Not sure if that was just Samsung saying it, but he has gotten a new phone now and has had no issues.
Also, seeing as it has just been one case so far over the millions of devices sold, I'm guessing it was a very isolated incident and we should have nothing to worry about.
For all you lazy people here is a translation from the German site:
"Galaxy S3: Cause of fire was apparently microwave
A fire at the Galaxy S3? No, says Samsung. The South Korean manufacturer has taken the Irish unit of the user Dillo2k10 under the microscope and found the cause for the occurrence of white flame. The reason was probably a microwave.
Following the publication of images of a charred Galaxy S3 in an IT forum Samsung acted quickly, the owner of the device in question was located and began the analysis.
About the survey results now published reports, the South Korean news site Donga.com . Accordingly, the manufacturer has come to the conclusion that his smartphone Dillo2k10 "deliberately damaged".
Dried in the microwave?
On examination Samsung no internal damage, only the outer shell showed traces of burning. First came the manufacturer assumes that components could be the microphone triggers the fire, but the measured current flow was within the guidelines, so this was also ruled out as an explosion source.
Now Samsung is assumed that the damage to the Galaxy S3 was caused by a microwave. One expert told Donga.com: "The electromagnetic waves of a microwave in the same frequency as the Bluetooth feature on smartphones (2.4 GHz) When the mobile phone into a microwave and heat it sets, then correspond with the appropriate components to use. the electromagnetic waves and usually take damage. "
Independent Investigation
Samsung says it is conceivable that Dillo2k10 be wet smartphone has become dried in the microwave, and shortly thereafter when he described the ride in the car noticed the white flame.
To enhance the credibility, will Samsung have the unit inspected by a third, independent establishment, writes Donga.com.
But no fire hazard at the Galaxy S3? The manufacturer has examined the charred smartphone user of the Irish and comes at an interesting result. Apparently a microwave to blame for the white flame. "
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For all you lazy people here is a translation from the German site:
"Galaxy S3: Cause of fire was apparently microwave
A fire at the Galaxy S3? No, says Samsung. The South Korean manufacturer has taken the Irish unit of the user Dillo2k10 under the microscope and found the cause for the occurrence of white flame. The reason was probably a microwave.
Following the publication of images of a charred Galaxy S3 in an IT forum Samsung acted quickly, the owner of the device in question was located and began the analysis.
About the survey results now published reports, the South Korean news site Donga.com . Accordingly, the manufacturer has come to the conclusion that his smartphone Dillo2k10 "deliberately damaged".
Dried in the microwave?
On examination Samsung no internal damage, only the outer shell showed traces of burning. First came the manufacturer assumes that components could be the microphone triggers the fire, but the measured current flow was within the guidelines, so this was also ruled out as an explosion source.
Now Samsung is assumed that the damage to the Galaxy S3 was caused by a microwave. One expert told Donga.com: "The electromagnetic waves of a microwave in the same frequency as the Bluetooth feature on smartphones (2.4 GHz) When the mobile phone into a microwave and heat it sets, then correspond with the appropriate components to use. the electromagnetic waves and usually take damage. "
Independent Investigation
Samsung says it is conceivable that Dillo2k10 be wet smartphone has become dried in the microwave, and shortly thereafter when he described the ride in the car noticed the white flame.
To enhance the credibility, will Samsung have the unit inspected by a third, independent establishment, writes Donga.com.
But no fire hazard at the Galaxy S3? The manufacturer has examined the charred smartphone user of the Irish and comes at an interesting result. Apparently a microwave to blame for the white flame. "
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If that's true then dillo2k10 is retarded and shouldn't be allowed use a microwave or any technology of any kind.
Who puts their phone in a microwave.....
Smh...
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If that's true then dillo2k10 is retarded and shouldn't be allowed use a microwave or any technology of any kind.
Who puts their phone in a microwave.....
Smh...
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I know right.. Wouldnt it spark though with the metal that's in it? I could remember when I was a kid I tried to heat up spare ribs in the bag they were in and it started sparking like crazy because of the foil that's on the inside of the spare rib bag, and when my daughter was little she put in a bowl of spaghetti o's in with a spoon and it started sparking
graffixnyc said:
For all you lazy people here is a translation from the German site:
"Galaxy S3: Cause of fire was apparently microwave
A fire at the Galaxy S3? No, says Samsung. The South Korean manufacturer has taken the Irish unit of the user Dillo2k10 under the microscope and found the cause for the occurrence of white flame. The reason was probably a microwave.
Following the publication of images of a charred Galaxy S3 in an IT forum Samsung acted quickly, the owner of the device in question was located and began the analysis.
About the survey results now published reports, the South Korean news site Donga.com . Accordingly, the manufacturer has come to the conclusion that his smartphone Dillo2k10 "deliberately damaged".
Dried in the microwave?
On examination Samsung no internal damage, only the outer shell showed traces of burning. First came the manufacturer assumes that components could be the microphone triggers the fire, but the measured current flow was within the guidelines, so this was also ruled out as an explosion source.
Now Samsung is assumed that the damage to the Galaxy S3 was caused by a microwave. One expert told Donga.com: "The electromagnetic waves of a microwave in the same frequency as the Bluetooth feature on smartphones (2.4 GHz) When the mobile phone into a microwave and heat it sets, then correspond with the appropriate components to use. the electromagnetic waves and usually take damage. "
Independent Investigation
Samsung says it is conceivable that Dillo2k10 be wet smartphone has become dried in the microwave, and shortly thereafter when he described the ride in the car noticed the white flame.
To enhance the credibility, will Samsung have the unit inspected by a third, independent establishment, writes Donga.com.
But no fire hazard at the Galaxy S3? The manufacturer has examined the charred smartphone user of the Irish and comes at an interesting result. Apparently a microwave to blame for the white flame. "
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He MICROWAVED his phone because he thought it's a good idea to dry up moisture?
Someone give this guy the retard of the year award.
Your phone is a celebrity now. Sell it on eBay for double its value!
cmd512 said:
Well, I'm on here, so clearly I'm a tech geek (hah). My official title is global quality manager, but who the hell really knows what that means...
Interesting on the German "microwave" claim article, I'd like to read more on how they came to that root cause conclusion.
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Im still very jealous. That has been my favorite car forever... Give me your job after you retire lmao
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So is there a hack for getting around the whole exploding problem?
Do you think he rooted his phone? If so was this the first case of the Efuse getting revenge.
Finally is there an app for this?
http://www.ppcgeeks.com/2010/12/03/exploding-phone-motorola-droid-2-hospitalizes-a-customer/
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Wow that is insane.... I hope my phone blows up in my face and I can win a big lawsuit with Motorola
HerroMoto said:
Wow that is insane.... I hope my phone blows up in my face and I can win a big lawsuit with Motorola
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I would recommend wearing a helmet lol
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I would recommend wearing a helmet lol
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Lmfao, next time I talk on the phone I'll always have a helmet handy. Thanks for the advice!
He probably had his Droid2 overclocked or heavily modded and it overheated from the strain.
Maybe he didn't read the notes about when u root ur phone the dev is not responsible for ur phone blowing up or killing ur cat or malfunctioning lol... yes i know he prolly wasn't rooted cuz it was only a few days old according to the article or at least so we think... but nonetheless I still immediately thought of every post the devs put up when flashing a custom rom hopefully his hearing is not affected in the long term.
EDIT: just saw the video on FOX4... the man said "It's an incredible phone... perhaps a little too incredible" LOL
OK, I think that this is fake; or to be more precise; guy is faking.
I think that he did had some sort of accident, and due to his lack of medical care, he decided to blame it on phone;
1. only thing that can explode inside mobile phone, is battery. So if she blow up, then there will be more damage on back of phone, and less on front side.
When battery blows up, it makes a lot of heat, so there will be heat marks on phone.
And of course; guy will have his hand injured, not head (or there will be at least some injury to hand)
2. look at this picture:
you can see that part of housing where is hole for speaker is clearly dented inwards (biggest red arrow)? That cracked screen was result of phone being hit by something, not exploding.
3. if there was a explosion, there will be parts of screen missing due to outwards thrust of explosion and that parts will produce injury on guys ear, as he did have his ear injured, but as I can see, all peaces of glass are still holding on, and non is missing, so question is; what have injured his ear??
4. blood on phone looks like it was dropping on to phone (smaller arrows); it's not looking like a splash that will be result of some explosion and spray of blood. And it surly didn't happened afterwards, because guy has mentioned that he notice blood pouring down his neck, and If you had you phone exploding in to your face, you will drop it as far away ass possible; you won't hold it next to your head, so that it can get bloody.
And just to make it clear; this is only mine opinion, based on images and video found on internet, and as that, I can be totally wrong; only legit thing that will make this clear is official investigation.
And something else, not related to that guy and his phone:
4 stitches and a cat scan 4000$ ?!?!?!?! WTF?! Do you in US have golden threads for stitching, and do you get Tai massage while getting cat scan (or even something more)?! That's crazy!!
P.S. Thank you C.S.I.
P.P.S. Here is article with video: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Man-claims-Motorola-DROID-2-exploded-leaving-him-injured_id15068
You are not the only Kob, some of the members of other Android sites have came to the same conclusion as you have. Explosion seems a bit fishy.
tbaker077 said:
You are not the only Kob, some of the members of other Android sites have came to the same conclusion as you have. Explosion seems a bit fishy.
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Yeah; just take a look what battery did to iPhone:
If that happened, then cut on that guys ear would be least of his problems; I have found couple images of some unfortunate peoples hand after that kind of incident, but I won't post them here, because images are to graphic.
On the other hand, here is one article regarding French kid that was injured by iPhone whose screen exploded:
http://hardwarespecs.blogspot.com/2009/08/iphone-exploded-injuring-french.html
And one more article with some different explanation:
http://bbsipodtouchhelp.com/archives/591
They say that it was not a battery, but it was a pressure; they say that he has probably squash phone to hard, and screen broke (and it looks like that, especially if you take in consideration image from start of this post).
Same thing may happened to this guy with Motorola; he was talking to someone on phone, get upset, and squash phone to hard (it's possible if you are really pissed of), and screen broke, and cut his ear. If that's a case, then it's his own fault, and he has no right to ask for compensation from Motorola (but I think that they will pay, just to keep him quiet).....
But I can't take my eyes from that image of phones screen; it totally looks like screen was hit with something.
And one more thing that bother me; i think that was totally lame to play "kids" card by guys wife. It's not like all phones will suddenly start to explode and kill kids. Man, I hate this paranoia that's got in to people these days.
This idiot just dropped his phone and didn't have insurance or something. This pic looks exactly like my phone did when I dropped it. I don't believe his phone "exploded" for a minute.
koberko said:
And something else, not related to that guy and his phone:
4 stitches and a cat scan 4000$ ?!?!?!?! WTF?! Do you in US have golden threads for stitching, and do you get Tai massage while getting cat scan (or even something more)?! That's crazy!!
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Fascinating, isn't it? Just be thankful your country actually puts its citizens' health before that of corporate profit margins.
And yeah, I think you're onto something... the story doesn't really make much sense.
I agree 100% that that is an impact to the front of the phone. Even if the battery melted down or popped it would not take out the speaker. This is an a$$#ole lookin for a paycheck.
Here is one nice comment that makes sense (from this page: http://phandroid.com/2010/12/03/motorola-droid-2-explodes-in-mans-ear-shenanigans/)
heres what happened… idiot dropped his phone.. ok fine… couple days later.. making a phone call while getting in the car.. sliced his ear with the shattered glass…. idiot gets a ‘brilliant’ idea… omg phone exploded in my ear.
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Oh, and one more thing; I think that this guys phone is still working! Check this out:
You can see it for your self in video on this page: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Man-claims-Motorola-DROID-2-exploded-leaving-him-injured_id15068
At 3:00 mark (you can see it blink)
So if that phone is still working, how can he then explode with enough power to injure this guy, but still be working after that???
So, that from quote in beginning of this post makes a lot of sense; he broke glass on phone by some accident, and while using still functional phone, he cut him self on broken glass.
I think there are more factors pointing towards fraud than legitimacy... first off nothing in that phone is powerful enough to exert that kind of force other than the battery which we all know if exploded the phone would not look that intact, it would not be functioning as flashing status light indicated in video, and he would prolly not have hearing on the affected ear. Two the fact that he doesnt have insurance but has a droid 2 seems to be backwards priorities but to each his own... this looks like simple owner negligence nd he wants motorola to give him a free droid nd pay for his self inflicted injuries.
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I think there are more factors pointing towards fraud than legitimacy... first off nothing in that phone is powerful enough to exert that kind of force other than the battery which we all know if exploded the phone would not look that intact, it would not be functioning as flashing status light indicated in video, and he would prolly not have hearing on the affected ear. Two the fact that he doesnt have insurance but has a droid 2 seems to be backwards priorities but to each his own... this looks like simple owner negligence nd he wants motorola to give him a free droid nd pay for his self inflicted injuries.
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Yeah, exactly; and also, ear is full of small vessels, so even minor injury to ear can look messy; and 4 stitches indicate small cut; I has once one injury as a kid, where I got cut in ridge between my eyes (top of nose) and it was bit more then 1cm long (let's say half inch), and I got 6 stitches. And all cuts on face are bloody; that cut that I had, make me lost around 1 liter of blood before I manage to stop it, and till time I got to hospital, I was starting to faint. There they got me couple units of blood and stitch me up, and I was fine.
So, if I had to bet on more likely scenario; I would bet on cut by previously broken glass on phone.
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Fascinating, isn't it? Just be thankful your country actually puts its citizens' health before that of corporate profit margins.
And yeah, I think you're onto something... the story doesn't really make much sense.
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Well, it's not all great here eider; but at least, first thing that passes through you mind when you get injured is not "omg, how much will that cost me?!" And people don't do crazy stunts while trying to come up with money for health bill.
You know the phone is working when his wife tells the news reporters he was getting calls while the phone was with her at school.
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You know the phone is working when his wife tells the news reporters he was getting calls while the phone was with her at school.
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In this article is one more news report; a the end, they say that phone is still working and receiving calls (2. clip): http://androidos.in/2010/12/motorola-droid-2-explodes-during-call/
This defiantly eliminates any "explosion"
So, in mine opinion, there are 4 possible scenarios:
1. Some fault in phones glass, that made it crack under normal circumstances and normal operational conditions.
2. User induced stress on phones glass that made it crack
3. Accident not related to phone, and then phone was intentionality damaged to make it look like a phone is cause of that injury.
4. Phone damaged in unrelated incident, but then damaged glass on phone induces injury to guys ear.
^ 4.
As the guy apparenly did not have medical insurance and obviously the hospital came after for payment, he made up the 'explosion' story to try put it on Motorola's bill. How 'shallow' story that is.
I guess explosions are "the fruit phone" specialty /end sarcasm/
koberko said:
OK, I think that this is fake; or to be more precise; guy is faking.
I think that he did had some sort of accident, and due to his lack of medical care, he decided to blame it on phone;
1. only thing that can explode inside mobile phone, is battery. So if she blow up, then there will be more damage on back of phone, and less on front side.
When battery blows up, it makes a lot of heat, so there will be heat marks on phone.
And of course; guy will have his hand injured, not head (or there will be at least some injury to hand)
2. look at this picture:
you can see that part of housing where is hole for speaker is clearly dented inwards (biggest red arrow)? That cracked screen was result of phone being hit by something, not exploding.
3. if there was a explosion, there will be parts of screen missing due to outwards thrust of explosion and that parts will produce injury on guys ear, as he did have his ear injured, but as I can see, all peaces of glass are still holding on, and non is missing, so question is; what have injured his ear??
4. blood on phone looks like it was dropping on to phone (smaller arrows); it's not looking like a splash that will be result of some explosion and spray of blood. And it surly didn't happened afterwards, because guy has mentioned that he notice blood pouring down his neck, and If you had you phone exploding in to your face, you will drop it as far away ass possible; you won't hold it next to your head, so that it can get bloody.
And just to make it clear; this is only mine opinion, based on images and video found on internet, and as that, I can be totally wrong; only legit thing that will make this clear is official investigation.
And something else, not related to that guy and his phone:
4 stitches and a cat scan 4000$ ?!?!?!?! WTF?! Do you in US have golden threads for stitching, and do you get Tai massage while getting cat scan (or even something more)?! That's crazy!!
P.S. Thank you C.S.I.
P.P.S. Here is article with video: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Man-claims-Motorola-DROID-2-exploded-leaving-him-injured_id15068
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awesome reply man
koberko said:
In this article is one more news report; a the end, they say that phone is still working and receiving calls (2. clip): http://androidos.in/2010/12/motorola-droid-2-explodes-during-call/
This defiantly eliminates any "explosion"
So, in mine opinion, there are 4 possible scenarios:
1. Some fault in phones glass, that made it crack under normal circumstances and normal operational conditions.
2. User induced stress on phones glass that made it crack
3. Accident not related to phone, and then phone was intentionality damaged to make it look like a phone is cause of that injury.
4. Phone damaged in unrelated incident, but then damaged glass on phone induces injury to guys ear.
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More awesome points. If I could i'd give you 600 rep points.
He Guys, so Recently has the Transformer sent in for not working properly. ( Would not stay on). Would shut off when power supply pulled off.
I got a response from Asus a few mins ago with pics. I cant believe this. For the record, I treat all my electronics with much respect. Especially if its only a few months old. (Bought in June) This thing has never seen an ounce of water. The pics they sent were disturbing. See body of email and pics below. Thoughts?
Dear Mr. XXXX,
Your RMA has been received; however there is a delay in processing as it has ( liquid damage that has caused corrosion ), which is not covered under the ASUS manufacturer warranty. For your reference, please review the attached picture(s). For more information in regards to types of damage not covered under ASUS manufacturer warranty, please visit http://service.asus.com, http://support.asus.com, and/or refer to your User Manual.
If you would like to continue with repairs for your ASUS product, please return the completed and signed credit card form by one of the following methods:
Fax: 510-797-2102 (Attn: Megan)
Email: (PDF/JPG formats accepted only)
Payment will need to be received no later than ( 11/3/11 ) to prevent your RMA from being returned unrepaired on ( 11/4/11 ). Repair process is approximately 3-5 business days from once payment is approved (excludes: parts on backorder and/or shipping/transit time).
Cost of repairs (all amounts are USD) – enter amounts on credit card form:
Parts - $409.00 (Motherboard-$189 + Audio Board-$21 + LCD-$199)
Labor - $65.00
Shipping – please select one shipping method only on credit card form
Sales Tax** – please select one option only on credit card form
**Only if you reside in California or Canada will sales tax be charged. If you are outside California or Canada, please select “none”.
IMPORTANT: It is required that all amounts and totals be filled in by you directly, based on the quote we have provided. All credit card forms must be received with a physical signature for credit card payment processing. If sending via email, you will need to complete the form, sign, and scan as a PDF/JPG format. If any of this required information is missing/incorrect, Asus will request that you update and resubmit the form. It is important to provide a completed accurate form to avoid any delay in the repair process.
Best regards,
Megan
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You can buy a new one for less than the cost of repairs. Do that.
normally i'd say it happenned in shipping, but there is no way all that corrosion happenned that quickly. i'd say one of two things, either you bought a returned item, or they got yours confused with someone elses. make sure to call and verify the serial number.
Or your kid (if you have one) spilled some liquid all over your tablet and pretended they knew nothing about why it doesn't turn on. It happens.
...or you've regularly used the device in a very humid environment, especially taking it from a cold air-conditioned environment to one that's hot and very humid, causing condensation inside the device.
A lot of manufacturers include devices in their products to test for water damage, and it's been shown regularly over the years that these can easily be triggered without immersion in water.
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You can buy a new one for less than the cost of repairs. Do that.
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Exactly. Thats a slap in the face to charge someone more than what the item costs brand new.
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normally i'd say it happenned in shipping, but there is no way all that corrosion happenned that quickly. i'd say one of two things, either you bought a returned item, or they got yours confused with someone elses. make sure to call and verify the serial number.
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Im on it but im going to say that probably is a dead issue. These guys dont care.
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Or your kid (if you have one) spilled some liquid all over your tablet and pretended they knew nothing about why it doesn't turn on. It happens.
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No kids. If something did spill on this, Im sure it would be a whole lot worse.
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...or you've regularly used the device in a very humid environment, especially taking it from a cold air-conditioned environment to one that's hot and very humid, causing condensation inside the device.
A lot of manufacturers include devices in their products to test for water damage, and it's been shown regularly over the years that these can easily be triggered without immersion in water.
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Even if that were the case, it would take a lot of that back and forth to make even a slight dent into corrosion.
I did some more research and found out that most electronics manufacturers use some sort of chemical protection on circuit boards. Apple, Microsoft and many many others use PCB boards treated with anti corrosion and anti tarnish chemicals. Clearly ASUS did not on these transformers. That really shows that these things are not the best of device. With that being said, there is no way you can take this thing to a beach or a bathroom for that matter. any amount of moisture in the air will start to make this thing deteriorate. Sub par all the way.
For a 400 device which is in competition with many in that price range, the transformer seems to be falling very short in the "quality" department. This means, along with battery issues and other hiccups, corrosion is now going to come into light. im sure others with similar battery issues have the same problem.
Now I dont know what to get. Im going to have this thing returned un repaired. I dont know what to jump into anymore. Any other tab with similar specs? Maybe i will go back to the Acer tab.
No consumer electronics circuit board is going to stand up to standing water, like you can see in that picture. This is not a production quality issue. I know you're upset about your device and if you believe that the device that was obviously abused in those photos is not yours then I strongly suggest you verify the serial numbers, Asus has to be willing to do this for you. If however you believe this really is your device, then stop blaming ASUS, this is obviously misuse on someones part(i'm not saying yours).
i think i would go with the clerical mistake theory. it couldn't have been the RMA people who spilled water on it...because like others said, the corrosion wouldn't have happened fast enough. so it must be the case that the TF was already correded before it got to them.
remember that the company is not asus, but a third-party RMA company. they get paid to service your device. from this perspective, no one would accept those charges...and therefore, they would not make any money. so i don't think there's anything fishy going on on their part.
not fanboying at all (currently a bit pissed at asus since my speakers went bust....i already had to RMA my device as well for sleep-of-death issue, and i'm not really wanting to do it again). but yea, it's either your device got switched with someone, or someone got your TF wet without you knowing.
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I'm sorry, but that looks like corrosion left by a battery and not water...
91ludesit said:
I'm sorry, but that looks like corrosion left by a battery and not water...
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I looked up some more pics on electronics pcb corrosion and you might be onto something. Water corrosion on boards looks different. BUT the batteries in the TF are dry no?
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I'm sorry, but that looks like corrosion left by a battery and not water...
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There actually isn't much difference.....if you've had to deal with a flooded house lately and electronics that were left plugged in, you'd know there isn't much difference.....
Whatever caused the corrosion, it wasn't much. Obviously the tablet wasn't submerged in water, but obviously something happened to it. Perhaps some liquid (water, or another drink of some kind) was spilled near the uSD/uHDMI port? That's about the only thing I can conclude by looking at this.
As far as condensation.....it's possible. I used to work for an electonics/amplifier company as an engineer that provides amplifiers for medical (think GE/Siemens) companies (MRI, etc..), and I had to deal with a unit that had extensive damage similar to this (we ended up scrapping the unit and replacing it). I know how the units get packaged, and there was no way we would have shipped the unit with water in it (sealed package, about the size of a filing cabinet drawer, the customer said the unit itself was wet when they opened the package). What we determined was that it was packaged on a very humid (down-pouring/rainy) summer day on our dock (where they generally keep the dock doors open since it's hot) and then shipped via air (as usual, since it goes from the USA to Germany). During this process, obviously, the compartment where luggage/mail is kept isn't heated much, if at all. Therefore, if there was alot of humid air inside the packaging, and then a drop in temperature, it could very well condensate, and cause this type of corrosion (and mold in our case, due to some laminates and glues being used in our application). That being the case, we started including desiccant (sp?) inside the packaging. Anyway.....I could certainly see this type of corrosion being similar.
NOTE:Before anyone says anything, I no longer work for said company, and I'm not divulging anything that is not public record or already known. =P
Personally, as others have suggested, first ensure it's the correct serial number. If it's the correct serial number, I'm sorry to say but I think you're screwed as far as getting Asus to repair it as an RMA without paying for it. You're most likely best off to just buy a new one, or wait and get a TF2 (whenever that comes out).
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There actually isn't much difference.....if you've had to deal with a flooded house lately and electronics that were left plugged in, you'd know there isn't much difference.....
Whatever caused the corrosion, it wasn't much. Obviously the tablet wasn't submerged in water, but obviously something happened to it. Perhaps some liquid (water, or another drink of some kind) was spilled near the uSD/uHDMI port? That's about the only thing I can conclude by looking at this.
As far as condensation.....it's possible. I used to work for an electonics/amplifier company as an engineer that provides amplifiers for medical (think GE/Siemens) companies (MRI, etc..), and I had to deal with a unit that had extensive damage similar to this (we ended up scrapping the unit and replacing it). I know how the units get packaged, and there was no way we would have shipped the unit with water in it (sealed package, about the size of a filing cabinet drawer, the customer said the unit itself was wet when they opened the package). What we determined was that it was packaged on a very humid (down-pouring/rainy) summer day on our dock (where they generally keep the dock doors open since it's hot) and then shipped via air (as usual, since it goes from the USA to Germany). During this process, obviously, the compartment where luggage/mail is kept isn't heated much, if at all. Therefore, if there was alot of humid air inside the packaging, and then a drop in temperature, it could very well condensate, and cause this type of corrosion (and mold in our case, due to some laminates and glues being used in our application). That being the case, we started including desiccant (sp?) inside the packaging. Anyway.....I could certainly see this type of corrosion being similar.
NOTE:Before anyone says anything, I no longer work for said company, and I'm not divulging anything that is not public record or already known. =P
Personally, as others have suggested, first ensure it's the correct serial number. If it's the correct serial number, I'm sorry to say but I think you're screwed as far as getting Asus to repair it as an RMA without paying for it. You're most likely best off to just buy a new one, or wait and get a TF2 (whenever that comes out).
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Thanks for that detailed post.
Well I guess its a wrap so to speak. I know the item was never in water and pics do show that. Perhaps it was condensation. Either way Im screwed. This being my third TF, it doesn't take a genius to know that the TF being sub par in quality. Its a great machine when it works. But I think Im going the "3 strikes, you're out" scenario. Im not getting another TF. I will take my chances with something else.
Take a look at this: http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/20/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-melts/
It doesn't look good. This Galaxy S III apparently malfunctioned while in an in-car holster, causing some substantial melting and burn marks across the lower half of the device. The global HSPA+ iteration of Samsung's new flagship apparently sparked into white flames, followed by a bang. As you can see the damage -- along the base but separate to the charging port -- looks pretty substantial and while the screen still apparently worked, reception was dead. The phone has been whisked off to a repair center through phone retailer Carphone Warehouse for the full autopsy. User dillo2k10 was left unscathed, but it's apparently left some nasty molten plastic remain on the inside of his car. Hit up the gallery link below if you're into scorch-marked phones.
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Take a look at this: http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/20/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-melts/
Image: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/06/meltedsgsiii.jpg
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I think this is going to be great ammunition for Apple, HTC, and even North American GS3 fans. Haha
Although from my personal experience, the GS3 runs cooler than the GS2 but slightly warmer than the HTC One XL in normal use. However, while charging the GS3 is cool as cucumber but the One XL heats up during charging.
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I think this is going to be great ammunition for Apple, HTC, and even North American GS3 fans. Haha
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I agree, looking at some of the comments on engaget, is seems some fanboys are already doing exactly that.
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Although from my personal experience, the GS3 runs cooler than the GS2 .
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Yep, same here and my S2 never managed to fry itself. Still, these things happen (even to the...gasp... iPhone... Maybe Apple will sue Samsung for "copying" that too) . More seriously though I'm sure there must be some statistics somewhere about mobiles catching fire.
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The batteries in all cell phones have enough energy to do this given the right conditions. Sell millions, and it's bound to happen a few times. Been happening to iPhones for years.
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I think the in-car holster bit will be something to do with it, probably had it running satnav software while on a mount on the windscreen on a hot day and the battery blew.
maybe the user use after market batteries ?
this one burst into flames!
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=79312161&utm_source
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this one burst into flames!
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=79312161&utm_source
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Same phone...
Tachikoma_kun said:
Same phone...
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Lol I am blonde..
Hot weather and extend exposed to sunlight, overheat causing process and overload multitasking, malfunctioning car adapter and charging cable, unstable current from car jack.
What a surprise.
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hmm it's kinda weird or a phone to not be connected to exploded isn't it? personally my iPhone charger tried to kill me when I charged it
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Hot weather and extend exposed to sunlight, overheat causing process and overload multitasking, malfunctioning car adapter and charging cable, unstable current from car jack.
What a surprise.
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the guy said it wasn't plugge in
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the guy said it wasn't plugge in
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I really think the guy was using the phone in some unadvisable way to make that happen.
(Upper left corner on the PCB)
Seems like a capacitor which blew up. Probably used some ****ty charger in his car.
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(Upper left corner on the PCB)
Seems like a capacitor which blew up. Probably used some ****ty charger in his car.
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he said the holster was mainly used to hold the phone not charge it maybe he left it in the car for too long?
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Sorry to say but that really doesn't look like a battery problem, more like the hardware itself blew!
Here are the best pics of the damaged phones:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=79312161&postcount=15
You'll see that the battery is intact and far away from the blackened region.
Now take a look at the logic board layout:
RED: Murata M2322007 WiFi Module
ORANGE: Samsung Exynos 4412 quad-core A9 processor with 1 GB LP DDR2 Green Memory (K3PE7E700M-XGC2)
YELLOW: Samsung KMVTU000LM eMMC(16GB)+MDDR(64MB) NAND Flash
CYAN: Intel Wireless PMB9811X Gold Baseband processor
BLUE: MAX77693 and MAX77686
PINK: Broadcom BCM47511 Integrated Monolithic GNSS Receiver
BLACK: 33ODC 2214 4TP AC
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http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/qneCB1ZDEXXKkcum.large
RED: Wolfson Microelectronics WM1811 stereo codec
ORANGE: Skyworks SKY77604 Multi-Band Power amplifier
BLUE: Silicon Image 9244 low-power MHL Transmitter
CYAN: NXP PN544 NFC Chip.
YELLOW: Infineon PMB5712 RF transceiver
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http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/iSxZ1SQMJAKAnXZo.large
The first logicboard-picture shows the phone from front, the latter from behind.
(Easily identifyable by the telltale USB-plug and battery connectors)
According to the pictures of the damaged phone it's on the left side of the USB-plug when looking at the phone from behind (or the right side from front).
On the front we got in that direction:
- CYAN: Intel Wireless PMB9811X Gold Baseband processor
- ORANGE: Samsung Exynos 4412 quad-core A9 processor with 1 GB LP DDR2
On the back we got in that direction:
- ORANGE: Skyworks SKY77604 Multi-Band Power amplifier
- BLUE: Silicon Image 9244 low-power MHL Transmitter
- CYAN: NXP PN544 NFC Chip.
I don't think the MHL or NFC chips were in active usage, so the most likely candidates are:
- ORANGE: Skyworks SKY77604 Multi-Band Power amplifier
- ORANGE: Samsung Exynos 4412 quad-core A9 processor with 1 GB LP DDR2
Since the Skyworks is positioned nearly behind the USB plug and it _looks_ like the origin is more to the side, I'd wager a guess that the Exynos has blown.
After re-reading the forum post which states that the device still works but has no reception I believe it's the Skyworks amplifier which blew. It certainly has the high-frequency, power output and periphery which could lead to such a desaster. The rest of the psot still applies
If that's true; had the user overclocked his device and played around with CPU/GPU voltages? (That can easily cause it to abruptly overheat and die, but I'm not sure that it would show to such an extend)
It looks more like the core or glue/plastic burst into flames from high temperature either due to a manufacturing fault, overclocking or keeping the phone with enabled GPS navigation in a car under direct sunlight and no air conditioning.
I've had several electronical devices (thermometers,...) melt on me when leaving them under the windshield while keeping the car parked in the summer. So even if the device powered itself off when overheating, a possible scenario is the owner getting back in the car, noticing that the phone is turned off and turning it on. The overheat protection does not kick in (maybe because it takes some time to initialize or maybe the phone was already damaged from the heat) and the core immediatly reaches temperatures far beyond his specification. Boom...
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Seems like a capacitor which blew up.
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While capacitor failure _may_ look like this (I've seen my fair share in power supplies and on motherboard CPU power-converters) there are no capacitors in the mobile with a sufficiently large capacity and hardware size for such an intense blow-up.
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Re-Read forum post of the linked thread. The device is still functional but no reception, so it's not the CPU. (Thanks to my girlfriend for pointing it out)
kulzboy said:
he said the holster was mainly used to hold the phone not charge it maybe he left it in the car for too long?
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I missed that part. Capacitor blowing up just like that hrmm.
WAIT! Stupid me. That's actually a microphone. Hahaha
d4fseeker said:
While capacitor failure _may_ look like this (I've seen my fair share in power supplies and on motherboard CPU power-converters) there are no capacitors in the mobile with a sufficiently large capacity and hardware size for such an intense blow-up.
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It seems like a capacitive microphone. Doesn't really need to be the blowup itself doing the damage but the short-circuit after it.
I missed that part.
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You're not the only one. I missed the part about the device still being (somewhat) functional afterwards but not having any network connection.
(My girlfriend was so kind as to point me to it)
As a result I've updated m conclusion that it most likely is the amplifier even tough it's seated somewhat more centered.
Well we all knew the phone was gonna be hot, but not this hot.
(WTF is wrong with you people? It took this many posts for someone to throw out the obvious joke?)
Well this certainly would be a deal breaker.
http://m.pocketnow.com/2012/06/21/g...ng-aware-of-the-problem/?wpmp_switcher=mobile
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there are already like 2 threads about this.. did we need another?
Welcome to two days ago OP.
close thread please.
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Well this certainly would be a deal breaker.
http://m.pocketnow.com/2012/06/21/g...ng-aware-of-the-problem/?wpmp_switcher=mobile
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This would of made a great at&t 4G commercial
Now if only Samsung would care this much about lesser issues like the screen problems.
Oh no. Oh no! OH YEAH!
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Old..... and dupe thread.
wow...
and here I thought my S3 is way more cooler than my old S2...
demonwind said:
Now if only Samsung would care this much about lesser issues like the screen problems.
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What screen problems?
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Yes, one reported melted phone and suddenly all of the millions of phones out there are ticking time bombs? Don't be silly...
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shevo said:
wow...
and here I thought my S3 is way more cooler than my old S2...
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It is, the battery is a different story.
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there are already like 2 threads about this.. did we need another?
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I did not see them. Thank you for your graceful kindness in pointing that out.
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Love it.
I love all the Samsung name calling that's going on in the comments of the article in the OP.
So, lets look at this, 9 million devices pre-ordered, god only knows how many others sold, already. 1 in 9 million catches fire and melts, and all of a sudden Samsung has gone completely wrong?
I wish people would grow up. As for the one guy with a One X, I just like a comment I read here on XDA somewhere that people justify to themselves their purchase by making out they got the best device for one reason or another.
All I can say is, when it comes from an S3 owner, it's true, we really do have the best consumer mobile device on the planet xD
:cyclops: I wish we had a troll smiley.
It is, the battery is a different story.
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If you bothered looking up the other discussion thread and the original photos of the damaged phone, you'd soon see that the battery is one of the few components it could NOT have been.
i hope that fake picture does work it's magic like it was supposed to.
so guys, please watch those pictures closely. it' is claimed that the phone melted by itself, right ? so this means the heat source has to be inside of the phone. if you burn something from the outside with a lighter for example you will get black marks on the item where you hold the lighter to and not so dark black marks on the areas around it.
so when this phone did melt because of an very high internal heat source, why is the most black part of the phone on the outside and the less black marks further away from the phones border?
in addition to that just look at a picture of the disassembly of the phone and where the heat source would have needed to be, if it melted because of inner parts of the phone. (keep in mind it's still BS because the marks that are visible on the phone point to someone using external heat.)
at the point of the black marks is only a screw hole (left to the microusb port), so do you really think the holding of a screw or a screw itself would magically heaten up to such an extent?
if you check the other ifixit-teardown pictures you clearly see that apart from that metallic holding for a screw there is not even a chip where the supposed melt down occured. surely the creater of this fake picture wants to make you believe that the empty space did heat up so much that it melted, lol
i don't want to point fingers here, but it is extremely telling how much energy some people spend just to convince others that the galaxy s3 is crap and their phone (most of the cases the one x) is better. there is no reasonable explanation for those people other than psychological deficit which leads them to spend unusual amounts of energy to worsen samsungs reputation or justify their own choice of another phone. a healthy human being would just not care about other phones. if you are satisfied with your own decision you are at ease and would not even try to point fingers at others and how the others are (allegedly) worse.
the fact that samsung said "it nows of that case" is the standard call center reply, to let the customers think that "everything is in check". just think what the feel of the customer was, when the support tells him "hey, we never heard of such a thing and have no clue what to do".
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i hope that fake picture does work it's magic like it was supposed to.
so guys, please watch those pictures closely. it' is claimed that the phone melted by itself, right ? so this means the heat source has to be inside of the phone. if you burn something from the outside with a lighter for example you will get black marks on the item where you hold the lighter to and not so dark black marks on the areas around it.
so when this phone did melt because of an very high internal heat source, why is the most black part of the phone on the outside and the less black marks further away from the phones border?
in addition to that just look at a picture of the disassembly of the phone and where the heat source would have needed to be, if it melted because of inner parts of the phone. (keep in mind it's still BS because the marks that are visible on the phone point to someone using external heat.)
at the point of the black marks is only a screw hole (left to the microusb port), so do you really think the holding of a screw or a screw itself would magically heaten up to such an extent?
if you check the other ifixit-teardown pictures you clearly see that apart from that metallic holding for a screw there is not even a chip where the supposed melt down occured. surely the creater of this fake picture wants to make you believe that the empty space did heat up so much that it melted, lol
i don't want to point fingers here, but it is extremely telling how much energy some people spend just to convince others that the galaxy s3 is crap and their phone (most of the cases the one x) is better. there is no reasonable explanation for those people other than psychological deficit which leads them to spend unusual amounts of energy to worsen samsungs reputation or justify their own choice of another phone. a healthy human being would just not care about other phones. if you are satisfied with your own decision you are at ease and would not even try to point fingers at others and how the others are (allegedly) worse.
the fact that samsung said "it nows of that case" is the standard call center reply, to let the customers think that "everything is in check". just think what the feel of the customer was, when the support tells him "hey, we never heard of such a thing and have no clue what to do".
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If you actually check iFixit yourself as you suggested and check the back of the board at the same position you will notice that the bottom capacitive microphone is in exactly that position, and since it is a type of capacitor, it can blow up like that. Stop with your consipiracy bull****, malfunctions happen and this is just another of them, although a weird one. It had nothing to do with the battery or any other of the more complex components.
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If you actually check iFixit yourself as you suggested and check the back of the board at the same position you will notice that the bottom capacitive microphone is in exactly that position, and since it is a type of capacitor, it can blow up like that. Stop with your consipiracy bull****, malfunctions happen and this is just another of them, although a weird one. It had nothing to do with the battery or any other of the more complex components.
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Exactly.
So f*cking what if ONE component in ONE phone malfunctions!!
Samsung will replace his phone, all will be good in the world again, let it go.
#****happens #unnecessaryhashtagsonxda
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Dupes... dupes everywhere!
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Anyone know if it is possible and where to get the Australia (AU) type head for the power adapter?
I mean the thing on the left:
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Ebay australia aught to do it I guess.
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I can't seem to find anything on there.
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See if this helps. It's called a converter.
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_....TRC1&_nkw=power+converter&_sacat=0&_from=R40
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Adapter mod
Take a pair of pliers and carefully twist the pins to match an Australian plug.
The pins are usually quite soft.
The secret is to grab them right up near the plastic before twisting them.
If you do it right the plug with fit in fully flush with the powerpoint.
I did my Nexus 10 adapter no problems (exactly the same as the one in your photo,and shown below).
I've done it with over 10 different chargers-adapters over the years and never had any issues at all,as long as the transformer is dual voltage (120v - 240v)
I don't like the adapters,they make the adapter too long and look dodgey.
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See if this helps. It's called a converter.
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_....TRC1&_nkw=power+converter&_sacat=0&_from=R40
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Mine came with a converter. I'm trying to get away from using it as it is too bulky.
whitey66 said:
Take a pair of pliers and carefully twist the pins to match an Australian plug.
The pins are usually quite soft.
The secret is to grab them right up near the plastic before twisting them.
If you do it right the plug with fit in fully flush with the powerpoint.
I did my Nexus 10 adapter no problems (exactly the same as the one in your photo,and shown below).
I've done it with over 10 different chargers-adapters over the years and never had any issues at all,as long as the transformer is dual voltage (120v - 240v)
I don't like the adapters,they make the adapter too long and look dodgey.
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This was my last resort. I have done many in the past with this method. But I failed once (because the plastic around the metal, for the cheap adapter i a had, cracked), But I think I will have to do the twist method. I cannot find anyone online selling just the au style prong.
whitey66 said:
Take a pair of pliers and carefully twist the pins to match an Australian plug.
The pins are usually quite soft.
The secret is to grab them right up near the plastic before twisting them.
If you do it right the plug with fit in fully flush with the powerpoint.
I did my Nexus 10 adapter no problems (exactly the same as the one in your photo,and shown below).
I've done it with over 10 different chargers-adapters over the years and never had any issues at all,as long as the transformer is dual voltage (120v - 240v)
I don't like the adapters,they make the adapter too long and look dodgey.
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Please dont ever recommend to someone to just "bend stuff till it fits" when dealing with electricity. While it may work out much of the time, someone reading and in a different voltage region of the world could have terrible things happen to their device, or it could cause other issues with someone being electrocuted and such. Its just a bad idea.
These power adapters should be the same between a lot of Samsung devices. I know my Galaxy Tab 2 has the exact same adapter as the Nexus 10. Most likely you could buy an Australian power adapter for a Samsung tablet (since these are all 2A output) or possibly a Samsung phone and get exactly what you need.
EniGmA1987 said:
Please dont ever recommend to someone to just "bend stuff till it fits" when dealing with electricity. While it may work out much of the time, someone reading and in a different voltage region of the world could have terrible things happen to their device, or it could cause other issues with someone being electrocuted and such. Its just a bad idea.
These power adapters should be the same between a lot of Samsung devices. I know my Galaxy Tab 2 has the exact same adapter as the Nexus 10. Most likely you could buy an Australian power adapter for a Samsung tablet or possibly a Samsung phone and get exactly what you need.
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Regarding the different voltage,if you read my reply fully you would have seen this "as long as the transformer is dual voltage (120v - 240v)."
I wasn't saying for anybody to just go bending the pins on any power adapter,I was saying it is quite safe to do it with this particular one.
In my opinion doing it this way is safer than using one of those cheap dual voltage adapters.
I'm an electrician by trade,I would not do this if it was anywhere near dangerous.
Regarding using another charger from a different Samsung device,that is more dangerous than doing the pin bend mod if the Milliamp rating is not the same (which you don't seem to mention).
whitey66 said:
Regarding the different voltage,if you read my reply fully you would have seen this "as long as the transformer is dual voltage (120v - 240v)."
I wasn't saying for anybody to just go bending the pins on any power adapter,I was saying it is quite safe to do it with this particular one.
In my opinion doing it this way is safer than using one of those cheap dual voltage adapters.
I'm an electrician by trade,I would not do this if it was anywhere near dangerous.
Regarding using another charger from a different Samsung device,that is more dangerous than doing the pin bend mod if the Milliamp rating is not the same (which you don't seem to mention).
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lol. I did see that, I even left it in the quote. But lots of people have no idea about voltage and such and your advice *could* seriously hurt someone who has no clue what they are doing. These "cheap dual voltage adapters" at least pass certification and are sold by someone who accepts responsibility for their design. You are just throwing advice out to modify electronics until they fit. I too am an electrician, and maybe we just do things differently in my part of the world but the way things are designed is for a reason and there is such a thing called "electrical code" where I come from. Maybe in your part of the world you can get away with "just bending stuff" but that kind of advice would get you either a massive fine or thrown in jail here. But whatever, people can do what they want. I was just trying to voice some sanity to this very bad advice.
EniGmA1987 said:
lol. I did see that, I even left it in the quote. But lots of people have no idea about voltage and such and your advice *could* seriously hurt someone who has no clue what they are doing. These "cheap dual voltage adapters" at least pass certification and are sold by someone who accepts responsibility for their design. You are just throwing advice out to modify electronics until they fit. I too am an electrician, and maybe we just do things differently in my part of the world but the way things are designed is for a reason and there is such a thing called "electrical code" where I come from. Maybe in your part of the world you can get away with "just bending stuff" but that kind of advice would get you either a massive fine or thrown in jail here. But whatever, people can do what they want. I was just trying to voice some sanity to this very bad advice.
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I'm not modifying any electronics,I just bent a couple of conductors to make them fit,there is a big difference.
There is nothing electronic in the adapter,it is just 2 conductors in a bit of plastic,nothing complicated here.
We have something in my part of the world called common sense.
So if you accidently bend one of your pins on one of your own power plugs do you throw it away?
Because straightening it again will weaken it and this will be bad in the eyes of the powers that be that will throw you in jail or give you a massive fine.
Like I said,this simple mod is safer than telling people to use any Samsung charger on their device without checking it's rating as you did.
So before you go picking at other peoples advice,maybe you should check your own.
Anyway,i'm not here to argue with you,I was just giving my input to help out the OP.
He can either take it or leave it,the same as anyone else reading it can.