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T-Mobile 500mb Data Cap...

I feel real sorry for our brothers and sisters over in the UK who will be getting their data capped at 500mb. See the article here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/jan/12/t-mobile-data-cap-smartphone
Can you imagine the negative slap-back to T-Moble if they did something like that here in the Ol' USA? I mean, I couldn't wade though all the negative energy it is now when T-Moble limited the 'unlimited' data plan to 5gb. Imagine it being only 500mb.. Geez!
I don't listen to any streaming music, nor do I watch any streaming videos, movies, or shows except for a little YouTube now and then. I don't do any major downloads except for a ROM now and then. I still hover around 890mds to 1200mbs per month. 500mbs would kill me!
How about you guys?
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It sucks for them, but all the carriers seem to be doing this. And Engadget got the official word that the cap is only for new contracts, so existing users won't be capped.

i would burn through 500mb in the first week

I could use that in like 2 days. Already doing 8gb a month and that's just using Pandora radio and streaming video, web and YouTube. I would cancel my service if they did that here.
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this applies to only new and upgrading customers
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darkside79 said:
I could use that in like 2 days. Already doing 8gb a month and that's just using Pandora radio and streaming video, web and YouTube. I would cancel my service if they did that here.
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Thats some serious data usage. If there was a 5th mobil carrier that offered a true unlimited data plan here is the USA, I wonder how many of us would pay the penalty of contact disconnect and switch over?
I wish there WAS a US based mobile carrier that offeres a true unlimited data plan!

lawalty said:
Thats some serious data usage. If there was a 5th mobil carrier that offered a true unlimited data plan here is the USA, I wonder how many of us would pay the penalty of contact disconnect and switch over?
I wish there WAS a US based mobile carrier that offeres a true unlimited data plan!
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sprint offers truly unlimited wimax... for now
and i'm not on contract with t-mobile... so if sprint ever gets any decent phones and decides to drop that BS $10/month surcharge for 4g i would consider switching

zephiK said:
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Yep, but they'll get them when they renew!

Here in Texas, Time Warner is offerening a wireless plan for laptop and mobile users that is 250mbs a month.
Give me a break!
After you use up 250mbs, then they charge you (i believe - going off memory) .10 cents for every 1mb after.. WTF!
Isn't wimax something like clearwire?

Phromik said:
It sucks for them, but all the carriers seem to be doing this. And Engadget got the official word that the cap is only for new contracts, so existing users won't be capped.
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They will be capped when they renew their contracts.
When you renew you contract they will just give you a different contract to agree too, and the new data plan will be part of it.
They aren't "grandfathering" anyone in. They just aren't breeching their CURRENT contracts.

lawalty said:
Here in Texas, Time Warner is offerening a wireless plan for laptop and mobile users that is 250mbs a month.
Give me a break!
After you use up 250mbs, then they charge you (i believe - going off memory) .10 cents for every 1mb after.. WTF!
Isn't wimax something like clearwire?
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Yes WiMax is clearwire.
The coverage is so bad that I routinely forget WiMax exists.

lolcopter said:
sprint offers truly unlimited wimax... for now
and i'm not on contract with t-mobile... so if sprint ever gets any decent phones and decides to drop that BS $10/month surcharge for 4g i would consider switching
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Isn't wimax wireless internet like clearwire?
Never mind, got your answer.

lawalty said:
I feel real sorry for our brothers and sisters over in the UK who will be getting their data capped at 500mb. See the article here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/jan/12/t-mobile-data-cap-smartphone
Can you imagine the negative slap-back to T-Moble if they did something like that here in the Ol' USA? I mean, I couldn't wade though all the negative energy it is now when T-Moble limited the 'unlimited' data plan to 5gb. Imagine it being only 500mb.. Geez!
I don't listen to any streaming music, nor do I watch any streaming videos, movies, or shows except for a little YouTube now and then. I don't do any major downloads except for a ROM now and then. I still hover around 890mds to 1200mbs per month. 500mbs would kill me!
How about you guys?
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there is no cap to the current tmobile 5gb. full speed within 5gb and slower after that. No cap.

lawalty said:
I don't listen to any streaming music, nor do I watch any streaming videos, movies, or shows except for a little YouTube now and then. I don't do any major downloads except for a ROM now and then. I still hover around 890mds to 1200mbs per month. 500mbs would kill me!
How about you guys?
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Someone watches alot of porn

I read the article about the 500MB data cap today and was totally freaking out, because I generally use about 2GB worth of data every month. I called T-Mobile and the rep said they had a 5 GB cap and after that your bandwidth will be throttled (which is what I thought the plan was). The T-Mobile rep told me that 500MB is insane and they would never put their cap that low, as you would eat it up in a few days.
Wow even T-Mobile USA agrees 500MB a month is not enough for a smartphone. How is T-Mobile USA affiliated with T-Mobile UK?
I told the rep that if they ever did something like that I would no longer be a T-Mobile customer... She acknowledged and told me T-Mobile would never do anything like that.
After my call with T-Mobile I decided I'd hop on XDA to see if anyone else saw the article about the 500MB cap, and found this thread. Now I wish I would have recorded the call in case T-Mobile ever does reduce their cap like this.
Hoping to get the new dual core Optimus when it arrives in April... If they do this to T-Mobile USA customers after I renew I am going to have a cow...

lolcopter said:
i would burn through 500mb in the first week
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Lmao that's like two days for me. I wouldn't know what to do with myself.
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To clarify for you guys about WiMax.
Wimax is a technology much like LTE. Wimax is an extension to WiFi. Clearwire uses Wimax as their technology of choice to provide internet access/Data to their customers. Anyone who wants to can buy a Tower and mount a Wimax antenna on it and use it, just like we use wireless as Wimax has access to a none license frequencies as well as frequencies you need to license to use.

Looks like I won't be picking up anymore prepaid t mobile sim cards when I go to london.
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Louer Adun said:
Hoping to get the new dual core Optimus when it arrives in April... If they do this to T-Mobile USA customers after I renew I am going to have a cow...
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FYI only 2.3 (gingerbread) and above supports dual core procs. Im looking forward to the new LG dual core phone but i then found out Froyo comes with it. Crap! Same thing with the Dell tablet from t-mobile coming out next month. Again, Crap!
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lolcopter said:
sprint offers truly unlimited wimax... for now
and i'm not on contract with t-mobile... so if sprint ever gets any decent phones and decides to drop that BS $10/month surcharge for 4g i would consider switching
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Sprint just changed their policy on data usage. Now everyone who signs up a new contract or renews existing contract has to pay the premium $10 per month that they were initially charging for 4G data

Tmobile throttling

The picture explains itself ....shame on tmobile lol
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This is nothing new, my friend.

No look at my bill cycle date and the date in the notification bar and time
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aside from the screwup on TMo's end for not starting off the billing cycle the day of (in your case), I find it ironic the message beneath your data usage. Today they sent me a txt with the same msg, put it like this it took me 5 min to download the 3.5mb file that is tweetdeck. shame. all that tethering internet crap caught up to me this month :'(

duboi97 said:
No look at my bill cycle date and the date in the notification bar and time
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Ah, I see. I think Tmobile's hours of operation are on pacific time here in the states. Another hour and forty-five minutes and you should be good.

Shaul305 said:
aside from the screwup on TMo's end for not starting off the billing cycle the day of (in your case), I find it ironic the message beneath your data usage. Today they sent me a txt with the same msg, put it like this it took me 5 min to download the 3.5mb file that is tweetdeck. shame. all that tethering internet crap caught up to me this month :'(
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Same here I wish there was no cap why is there tethering with a cap, illogical, tmo= fail but still cheaper than att
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Alkaloid said:
Ah, I see. I think Tmobile's hours of operation are on pacific time here in the states. Another hour and forty-five minutes and you should be good.
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I believe they can (not saying they will) throttle you for the month following as well, if they feel you (and others like you) are impacting the quality of service for others.

duboi97 said:
Same here I wish there was no cap why is there tethering with a cap, illogical, tmo= fail but still cheaper than att
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To be fair, T-Mobile isnt charging for tethering (from what I know) and it still has unlimited access whereas other companies charge you more for going over or simply has a hard cap

Just to add to this post.
Tmobile changed their "unlimited" to a soft cap at 5GB last fall.
But people like me on the old grandfathered 19.99 BIS plan (yes my BIS works perfectly with my Samsung Vibrant). Aren't grandfathered plans like mine; isn't the soft cap on old users like me at 10GB? instead of 5GB.
I never even reach 1GB on a a good month even with tethering on the Vibrant. But I don't tether that much.

N8ter said:
I believe they can (not saying they will) throttle you for the month following as well, if they feel you (and others like you) are impacting the quality of service for others.
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Please do not spread further misinformation on this.
Only Verizon has stated they'll do this. T-Mobile never once said that they would do that. They never have done that.

d0es removing the cap procedure with providing different APN still works ? if yessss screw you tmo ;P hope u wont catch me doin it tho pp

anthonys2r said:
To be fair, T-Mobile isnt charging for tethering (from what I know) and it still has unlimited access whereas other companies charge you more for going over or simply has a hard cap
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Is not actually unlimited,because when they throttle you pages hardly ever load,the phone is good just for making call and sending text,other than that is completely worthless.
They actually throttle you so hard to 56KB because it is actually the best workaround to actually stop you from using your data,without actually and completely stopping your connection,and they can still claim that it still is unlimited.
Now they are advertising here the Vibrant 4G,with bells and whistles as a 4G phone capable of blazing fast 21MB connection on their 4G HSPA+ network all in very big letters.
And when you read the incredibly small and almost unreadable letters it say HSPA+ 4G no available in Puerto Rico..
And some how their adds are not misleading.

aneftp said:
Just to add to this post.
Tmobile changed their "unlimited" to a soft cap at 5GB last fall.
But people like me on the old grandfathered 19.99 BIS plan (yes my BIS works perfectly with my Samsung Vibrant). Aren't grandfathered plans like mine; isn't the soft cap on old users like me at 10GB? instead of 5GB.
I never even reach 1GB on a a good month even with tethering on the Vibrant. But I don't tether that much.
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I totally agree. I first used to get a text saying I hit the 10gb limit then it changed to 5gb. I'm on the g1 plan. Tethering is also not the only culprit. I download mixtapes (for promotional use only) to the phone. I stream. Some of the newer games have some big files to download. Why use wifi I paid for unlimited no quotes web.

reuthermonkey said:
Please do not spread further misinformation on this.
Only Verizon has stated they'll do this. T-Mobile never once said that they would do that. They never have done that.
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Actually tmobile does state it in the fine print if you look at it.
eltormo said:
Is not actually unlimited,because when they throttle you pages hardly ever load,the phone is good just for making call and sending text,other than that is completely worthless.
They actually throttle you so hard to 56KB because it is actually the best workaround to actually stop you from using your data,without actually and completely stopping your connection,and they can still claim that it still is unlimited.
Now they are advertising here the Vibrant 4G,with bells and whistles as a 4G phone capable of blazing fast 21MB connection on their 4G HSPA+ network all in very big letters.
And when you read the incredibly small and almost unreadable letters it say HSPA+ 4G no available in Puerto Rico..
And some how their adds are not misleading.
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Deja vu.

LoL. I went into the myaccount app and tried to set an alert for data. It said due to the fact I have an unlimited data plan I can't use this feature. So the app thinks just like me.

duboi97 said:
The picture explains itself ....shame on tmobile lol
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They did that to me once. Throttled me less than 24 hours until my cycle renewed. Like less than a day matters, apparently it does to them though. Tmo FTW!
Edited, when throttled, it was my experience that turning on edge only data was much faster than the throttled 3g. It seems they don't throttle the edge side, just the 3g data.
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sahil04 said:
Actually tmobile does state it in the fine print if you look at it.
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Where in the fine print does it say that they're going to cap you for your *next* billing cycle as well?

Br1cK'd said:
They did that to me once. Throttled me less than 24 hours until my cycle renewed. Like less than a day matters, apparently it does to them though. Tmo FTW!
Edited, when throttled, it was my experience that turning on edge only data was much faster than the throttled 3g. It seems they don't throttle the edge side, just the 3g data.
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How do you get to edge I knew how to in my cliq and mytouch slide but not this phone.
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duboi97 said:
How do you get to edge I knew how to in my cliq and mytouch slide but not this phone.
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Settings - wireless and networks - mobile network - network mode.
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reuthermonkey said:
Where in the fine print does it say that they're going to cap you for your *next* billing cycle as well?
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My mistake, misread the post you quoted lol.

*Wireless Tether App for Android Gets Banned by Carriers*

not sure if this has been posted:
http://pocketnow.com/android/wireless-tether-app-for-android-gets-banned-by-carriers
In Android, there are several different ways to tether, both officially (through an app that comes on the device for which you must pay to use), and unofficially (on unlocked and rooted devices). The carriers obviously want you to pay a monthly tethering fee, which often comes in at around $20 for 2GB. For years, this has been protested by some subscribers who contend that since they're already paying for a data plan, it should be up to them, and not the carrier, to determine how the data is used.
Many recent smartphones come with a carrier-sanctioned Mobile Hotspot app that only works if you've paid that extra fee to add tethering to your data plan. If your device is unlocked or rooted, you can use the built-in tethering function found in Android 2.2 and 2.3 settings. More commonly, rooted users use the free Wireless Tether app for Android, which does a great job at sharing your device's connection with a variety of devices.
The days of the Wireless Tether app might over, though. Carriers have begun blocking the app, even if you're rooted. We've checked for the app on a Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint device, and it's not available on the former two. However, on an unlocked Sony Ericsson device without a SIM card, the app is available. After inserting an AT&T SIM card into the phone, the app disappears.

Short version below.
"Only Sprint has decided against banning such apps."

rushco said:
Short version below.
"Only Sprint has decided against banning such apps."
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Don't you have to he rooted to use the app? And, if you're rooted and running 2.2+ isn't native tethering available? Seems like a moot point to block the app... go sprint btw, they really seem to be embracing android and this whole phone freedom philosophy with this and their unofficial policy on rooted phones.
Tapa tapa tapa

Im really starting to believe more each day that I made the right choice by dumping verizon and going to sprint. I do not regret it.
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Does this really surprise anyone from the carriers that limit or throttle?

Also there is a very simple rule to think about.
If there is a way to lock it, there is a way to unlock it.

What would stop someone from side loading the app? There are places other than the almighty android market to procure such tethering apps. AT&T likes to block side loading, but I thought you could just use ADB to push files anyways.

Score one for Sprint!*
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Score one for Sprint!*
*for the time being
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+1 on the vid

Yeah sprint all the way

k2buckley said:
What would stop someone from side loading the app? There are places other than the almighty android market to procure such tethering apps. AT&T likes to block side loading, but I thought you could just use ADB to push files anyways.
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Nothing... you can still side load it or download it via wifi.

Regardless of workarounds, at the end of the day it is the idea behind the 'restrictions.' Or attempted ones, at that. It's the principle. It's the evil, at it's base, regardless of avoidance.

k2buckley said:
What would stop someone from side loading the app? There are places other than the almighty android market to procure such tethering apps. AT&T likes to block side loading, but I thought you could just use ADB to push files anyways.
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In the case of ATT, they remove the option from settings to allow apps from unknown sources. So you cannot side load apps unless you root the phone.

Just a thought.
Would you rather have throttled data after so many gigs and free tethering, or paid tethering and never throttle?
I'd pick throttle after so many gigs.

AbsolutZeroGI said:
Just a thought.
Would you rather have throttled data after so many gigs and free tethering, or paid tethering and never throttle?
I'd pick throttle after so many gigs.
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I believe this to be a false choice.
From June through September of 2010, I self-righteously scoffed at those who "Tethered for free" using any of the workarounds to Sprint's $30.00/month Hotspot. I paid the $30,00 each month while naively waiting for Sprint to fix the 50% through-speed issue.
The open CTMS ticket xxxxxxxx-100817, to address the throttled through-speeds has become a long running joke.
I would indeed love the option to purchase an unthrottled, tethered 4G connection for my laptop, but I will not pay for something that Sprint and Clear have no intention of delivering.

Actually using Wireless Teather from my Evo on my laptop right now.

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The way I see it is I pay for 4G on Sprint's network, however I do not have 4G in my area, I don't complain about that, so why is sprint complaining? are they saying were ripping them off.. because we use a free app to get service we already pay for?

firemedic333 said:
The way I see it is I pay for 4G on Sprint's network, however I do not have 4G in my area, I don't complain about that, so why is sprint complaining? are they saying were ripping them off.. because we use a free app to get service we already pay for?
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Well, with Sprints new policy on any smartphone, everyone that gets any Android (4g or not), Blackberry, etc. are now paying the $10 premium data charge.
Also, it is amazing to me how providers think they have a right to tell people what they can and cannot do with a device that they own. I am just saying, this is like Comcast telling someone they can't install a program on their computer because they are using their internet connection.

drgonzo712 said:
Well, with Sprints new policy on any smartphone, everyone that gets any Android (4g or not), Blackberry, etc. are now paying the $10 premium data charge.
Also, it is amazing to me how providers think they have a right to tell people what they can and cannot do with a device that they own. I am just saying, this is like Comcast telling someone they can't install a program on their computer because they are using their internet connection.
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Your using the network which they own. The phone may be yours but the infrastructure is not. They have every right to control or restrict the amount or rate at which use data on their network.

MCL1981 said:
Your using the network which they own. The phone may be yours but the infrastructure is not. They have every right to control or restrict the amount or rate at which use data on their network.
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That is correct, without them, your phone is pretty much worthless, so yes they can and have ever right to control how the data is used on your device.
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Throtting

So there isn't really any definitive answer, so i'm making topic on it: DOES SPRINT THROTTLE?
I know they say they don't throttle, but myself and a number of friends have noticed a big drop in data speed the more we use. So what does everyone else think?
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No, they don't throttle.
myself and a number of friends have noticed a big drop in data speed the more we use.
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HAHA welcome to the "Now Network". Sprint=dial-up speeds. Myself, or my 3 friends on Sprint, haven't gotten above 100kbps since last October. It happens everywhere I travel too. Well, except between 2am and 4am, then it works perfectly fine, when everyone else is asleep.

It seems to me like they do during the day. My 3g is not near as fast as it used to be during the day. It wasnt a gradual decrease. More like a sudden. While my connection at my house still pulls 1.0-1.3mbps at my house during the day, I used to get 2+mbps there during the day. Now I don't get that speed til 1-5am. You're probably thinking "wtf are you *****ing about?!" Cuz it is very fast at my house. ****ty part is that everywhere else its nowhere near 1.0mbps. More like 0.2-0.4. And I'm NEVER home. That's the problem. Oh well. Its either live with it or go pay $40-50 more to get raped by verizon.
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Mine used to be around 3Mb/s on 3g, that was when I first got my contract. It seems the more I tethered and used more and more data the slower it got. yestursay I got .25 mb/s! Flashed radios this morning and i'm up to 1.
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It seems to me like they do during the day.
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No, they don't throttle during the day, they dont throttle at all. The reason your speeds are crappy during the day is because there are too many people using it during the day, and each tower's crappy T1 line backhaul can't handle more than a few MB/s total for everyone connected to it.

Darn you other sprint users i'm my area, turn your 3g off!
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One thing that we all have to remember is that sprint subcontracts its network to other providers (virgin, republic, boost...) And all their customers uses our network as well.
Think about it, Verizon really doesn't lend their network, that's why you pay higher prices, because you have their full resource.
We pay lower prices but we have to share...
Just a thought...
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megabiteg said:
One thing that we all have to remember is that sprint subcontracts its network to other providers (virgin, republic, boost...) And all their customers uses our network as well.
Think about it, Verizon really doesn't lend their network, that's why you pay higher prices, because you have their full resource.
We pay lower prices but we have to share...
Just a thought...
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Please don't talk about things you know nothing of. Verizon has MVNOs just as Sprint does.

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DOES SPRINT THROTTLE?
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No it is just naturally slow. I guess you could say it comes "pre-throttled"
KJ

Unfortunately I did not take screen shotts to back this up, so fwiw.....
I have been throttled while on 4g. It was not a signal issue, peak use/time thing, straight up throttled. Long story short- My desktop got fried several days back. Replaced it, had to start from scratch software wise.
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That screen shot is for Nov.3 - 11th. Right towards the end of a 5.2gig d/l (cs5.5 master collection) My 4g speeds here @ home avg 17-2300kbs on a bad day. While going through pdanet I realize 3-500kbs @ the desktop. @ about 5030 MB my d/l speeds sank to 39 kbs have been stuck there since. Called sprint they said my data usage is "suspect" and will be monitored untill my next billing cycle.
So keep it under 9 gigs a day kids.. they WILL throttle you.
I pay for the hotspots btw.
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jamieg71 said:
Unfortunately I did not take screen shotts to back this up, so fwiw.....
I have been throttled while on 4g. It was not a signal issue, peak use/time thing, straight up throttled. Long story short- My desktop got fried several days back. Replaced it, had to start from scratch software wise.
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That screen shot is for Nov.3 - 11th. Right towards the end of a 5.2gig d/l (cs5.5 master collection) My 4g speeds here @ home avg 17-2300kbs on a bad day. While going through pdanet I realize 3-500kbs @ the desktop. @ about 5030 MB my d/l speeds sank to 39 kbs have been stuck there since. Called sprint they said my data usage is "suspect" and will be monitored untill my next billing cycle.
So keep it under 9 gigs a day kids.. they WILL throttle you.
I pay for the hotspots btw.
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Paid hotspots are now limited to 5gb data per month did ya not get the notice? After 5gb hotspot ur either throttled or paying per mb FYI
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I live in the middle of nowhere I share a Sprint tower with maybe 20 houses that are within its range I get anywhere from 1 - 3 mbps dl and close to 1 mbps up on 3g. I use an assload of data anywhere from 15 - 50 gb a month on my line alone. We have 5 lines and a data card between us we use the 5 gb of the data card as the only other option for internet is dial up or satellite and the phones we have hit about 200gb of data between the 5 phones and Sprint has never said **** about it. Although we have been on Sprint since god knows when I've been on Sprint for 13 yrs but my dad was on this account for 5 or 6 yrs b4 that. I remember having sprints old red logo on my phones and going thru the Nextel merger. Hell I gotta box with some really old Sprint phones going back to a startac my first ever Sprint phone was one of those cool old Nokias u could swap the face plate on lol
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Deathsnuggle said:
So there isn't really any definitive answer, so i'm making topic on it: DOES SPRINT THROTTLE?
I know they say they don't throttle, but myself and a number of friends have noticed a big drop in data speed the more we use. So what does everyone else think?
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The short answer is, "It depends."
I am well versed in the 4G arena, not so much 3g/EVDO.
When you discuss Sprint's 4G network, you are really discussing the re-branding and re-selling of Clearwire's Wimax network. Any discussion of Clearwire's Wimax must include an understanding of N.I.M.S., which stands for, Network Integrity Management System. That's code for THROTTLING!!
In a nutshell, Clear directly, and through its wholesale distributors, continues to sell more bandwidth than it has available to deliver. During periods of low demand, all is well. During times of high demand, N.I.M.S. automatically kicks in. A quick Google search of Clearwire N.I.M.S. should provide the triggers and effects.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-overextending-coverage-to-lure-customers.ars
http://www.geekwire.com/2011/clearwire-boosts-wholesale-subscriber-count-headwinds-mount
To parse Sprint's claim that they do not throttle is easy. They don't; Clear does it for them.

tmwilsoniv said:
The short answer is, "It depends."
I am well versed in the 4G arena, not so much 3g/EVDO.
When you discuss Sprint's 4G network, you are really discussing the re-branding and re-selling of Clearwire's Wimax network. Any discussion of Clearwire's Wimax must include an understanding of N.I.M.S., which stands for, Network Integrity Management System. That's code for THROTTLING!!
In a nutshell, Clear directly, and through its wholesale distributors, continues to sell more bandwidth than it has available to deliver. During periods of low demand, all is well. During times of high demand, N.I.M.S. automatically kicks in. A quick Google search of Clearwire N.I.M.S. should provide the triggers and effects.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-overextending-coverage-to-lure-customers.ars
http://www.geekwire.com/2011/clearwire-boosts-wholesale-subscriber-count-headwinds-mount
To parse Sprint's claim that they do not throttle is easy. They don't; Clear does it for them.
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Thanks for the explanation. Makes sense now, how I get throttled living in a city of 600k, but someone out in a rural area remains untouched. It's all good tho, just discovered a new open wifi here in the neighborhood... lol
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
I live in the middle of nowhere I share a Sprint tower with maybe 20 houses that are within its range I get anywhere from 1 - 3 mbps dl and close to 1 mbps up on 3g. I use an assload of data anywhere from 15 - 50 gb a month on my line alone. We have 5 lines and a data card between us we use the 5 gb of the data card as the only other option for internet is dial up or satellite and the phones we have hit about 200gb of data between the 5 phones and Sprint has never said **** about it. Although we have been on Sprint since god knows when I've been on Sprint for 13 yrs but my dad was on this account for 5 or 6 yrs b4 that. I remember having sprints old red logo on my phones and going thru the Nextel merger. Hell I gotta box with some really old Sprint phones going back to a startac my first ever Sprint phone was one of those cool old Nokias u could swap the face plate on lol
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Ha! I had one of those Nokias, but my first real cell phone was an Oki 910. Before that it was a Motorola bag phone, still have that old beast in storage some where.. Just bought some new boots, the box would fit in the "bag" lol
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Are there any NON throttled 4g data plans out there?

Well I got my brand-new Samsung galaxy S3 (off contract) and I’ve been playing around the last couple of weeks streaming video and whatnot and to my surprise I get the dreaded text message from AT&T stating that I just got throttled. This is the first-time and I am PISSED!! I am SURE this has been covered before but it’s the first time for me. I had no idea exactly how much they throttled you by until now. I mean you can’t do anything once they tightened the noose. I am grandfathered in with an unlimited LTE plan also which really makes it that much more irritating. Well I guess I need to download that app that finds free hotspots. I am in the San Antonio Texas area and we have good mobile data coverage down here so I have to wonder if there are any providers offering a truly unlimited non-throttled or less throttled 4g (of some kind) data plan. I know that Sprint is just getting their LTE service fired up and they are offering an unlimited plan in my area and technically I am not under contract right now which I made abundantly clear to the AT&T employee that I was speaking with (ranting to) like she cared. Does Sprint pull the same crap that AT&T does? Do I have any options? Thanks in advance.

Sprint just deployed their LTE recently and I've seen data speeds around 30+ MB/s reported by users in Texas
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We have unlimited data at Sprint. I've never been throttled even when I spent a month on roam and used like 35GB.
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I'm a moron. Nm.

When I'm throttled on att ... my data speed goes from LTE to regular 3G , which is more then enough to stream video and music. How slow are you getting?
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erichj said:
We have unlimited data at Sprint. I've never been throttled even when I spent a month on roam and used like 35GB.
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LTE? How are speeds?

s1mpd1ddy said:
When I'm throttled on att ... my data speed goes from LTE to regular 3G , which is more then enough to stream video and music. How slow are you getting?
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I went from almost 50mbs down to .5mbs down and up! Its enough to do little stuff but that's not the point. Its just unacceptable to be THAT limited on an UN-limited plan. Ive been with them 10 years since they were SWB and Cingular Wireless and Ive never come close to 5 gigs until now. How do we stream video and other data intensive stuff on 5 lousy gigs a month? Sprint offers Unlimited LTE in my area NON throttled according to Sprint rep. I will go to Sprint store tomorrow and see how fast it is. I am not under AT&T contract so I can shop around. The plan im on is almost as much as the unlimited Sprint plan so no big price difference. Is there a catch to Sprints data service? Do they start charging extra or or limit download size or cut you off if you tethering or anything? Is Sprint a good alternative to AT&T? Sprint seems the logical choice if thier speed is equal or near AT&Ts. Is AT&Ts call quality better or Sprint? Inst Sprint CDMA? Info greatly appreciated. Thanks.

bud951 said:
I went from almost 50mbs down to .5mbs down and up! Its enough to do little stuff but that's not the point. Its just unacceptable to be THAT limited on an UN-limited plan. Ive been with them 10 years since they were SWB and Cingular Wireless and Ive never come close to 5 gigs until now. How do we stream video and other data intensive stuff on 5 lousy gigs a month? Sprint offers Unlimited LTE in my area NON throttled according to Sprint rep. I will go to Sprint store tomorrow and see how fast it is. I am not under AT&T contract so I can shop around. The plan im on is almost as much as the unlimited Sprint plan so no big price difference. Is there a catch to Sprints data service? Do they start charging extra or or limit download size or cut you off if you tethering or anything? Is Sprint a good alternative to AT&T? Sprint seems the logical choice if thier speed is equal or near AT&Ts. Is AT&Ts call quality better or Sprint? Inst Sprint CDMA? Info greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Lucky. Tmo goes to edge which is Max .08mbps
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erichj said:
We have unlimited data at Sprint. I've never been throttled even when I spent a month on roam and used like 35GB.
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Im grandfathered in for unlim data for Vz. 14 days into my billing cycle sitting with 94.7 GB

stupidchicken03 said:
Im grandfathered in for unlim data for Vz. 14 days into my billing cycle sitting with 94.7 GB
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Good god, may I ask what you use all that data doing? I'm getting 10mbs on sprint.
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To answer you question there are no gimmicks with Sprint when it comes to unlimited data. There plans really are unlimited and I live in Atlanta where my 4gLTE just activated and I am very pleased with the speeds. I'm loving Sprint right now.
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Since the 5th, I've switched to Sprint. Coverage blows in stl, but blown past my 2gb cap I had with att and living that so far. Some coverage and I will be set!
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If I had lte on sprint I'd be all over it. But 3g by me is horrible and no service whatsoever at my house really kills it. So I recently switched to att where my coverage is awesome and my 3g is easily 8x faster on average. If lte on sprint ever comes to my area I will certainly reconsider my choice. Until then ill live with my 5gb att cap.
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5. something gbs........ throttled
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bud951 said:
LTE? How are speeds?
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I live in Jefferson City, MO and we aren't slated for LTE until later this year.
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The only reason Sprint has been able to offer truely unlimited plans is because the speeds were just too slow to generate any meaningful volume. With LTE now, they will be in the same position (likely worse equipped) once volume increases across the network. Enjoy it while it lasts. I certainly wouldn't be jumping ship having unlimited (5g) with ATT in hand to have fully unlimited data for a year or so.

Sprint doesn't cut you off or anything when it comes to data usage (unless you're roaming.) Go to 500 gb a month if you'd like.

defnow said:
5. something gbs........ throttled
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Those throttled speeds are faster than most peoples Sprint 3G speeds

Acapella75 said:
Those throttled speeds are faster than most peoples Sprint 3G speeds
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as it should be... its 4g

I don't know why people are so up in arms about this stuff. Most carriers are going to tiered data.... it's the way it is and nothing's changing that. It's already been in the rumor mill based on some things done/said by sprint that they too, will be going to throttled/tiered methods to controlling data. I don't know about you guys, but I know that ever since tethering became very popular, TONS of people have been trying to use their mobile data connections as primary internet sources. While it's all fine and dandy that you feel that you should use your data how you want, the networks (and when I say networks, i mean ALL of them) are not yet ready to support everybody's daily habits and still be strong enough to support the current flow of telephone calls or data calls.
When that day comes, by all means, have the carriers put out unlimited data plans and have your telephone be your primary internet connection, but until that day when the networks are strong enough to support it, I still want to be able to make phone calls if need be, especially in an emergency.
By having service, it doesn't give anybody the right to unlimited data, or if they do have it, to use it however they wish. There are still terms and conditions with each company. I know it's not something that everybody likes, but it's the way life is. I am personally pretty glad that the carriers are approaching it this way, because in my area, I see first hand how tethering on smart phones can easily cripple networks at this current time.
I'll give you all an example. I work in a town of 45,000 people, with a "metropolitan" style town surrounding with a grand total of like 80,000 people. That's not a whole lot, which means there's not a ****load of towers here to support our mobile data/calling habits. The thing is, we're in Wisconsin, and there's a lot of places in Wisconsin that you can now get 3G service but can't even get Satellite internet service more than 700kbps. 3G service in those areas average 1-2 megs of service. HSPA/HSPA+ service in some of those areas range from 3-9megs of service. With a cost of $30-80 for sat. service, it's obvious what people would rather use for their internet. If even a 3rd of those 80,000 people started using their phones as primary internet connections, our network would quickly become stressed.
It's becoming more and more obvious to me every day too, that people are wanting to use their phone as a primary internet connection because they can't get land line service or want to save money on a more frequent basis. At least once or twice a day I get a customer coming in and asking us about our mobile internet service because they want to get rid of their land lines to save money, consolidate bills, or can't get land lines at home.
With the rate of how many people are now getting their hands on phones that are capable of tethering, that could very quickly change the work load of the towers on ANY network, be it sprint, at&t, tmo, verizon etc etc.... and it's not going to be for the better.... for now.
I guess the moral of the story is, as a person who still utilizes land line services as his primary source of internet (especially for streaming content/downloading content), I would love to have the cell phone towers I utilize still be able to support my telephone calls, instead of straining to support everybody's netflix addictions. Until the networks are built to support that kind of stuff, I can't say I disapprove of the way things are going on the carriers. Nobody's entitled to anything when it comes to service, and that being said, is what gives freedom of choice when it comes to your carrier choice. Just keep in mind that Sprint is looking more and more likely to follow suit with the tiered/throttled plans... seeing as they've already done it (according to articles, don't know if it's actually implemented) on their hotspot devices. If it's true, and has happened, It's not long till they do it to their smartphones, since every single one is ALSO a hotspot device.
*rant over*
P.S. This post is not meant to directly flame, offend, or belittle anyone for their habits. Everybody is different and has their own opinions, so keep in mind that this is MY opinion and the way I feel. Please keep your responses to it civil, because if they turn childish and mean hearted, i'll make sure the mods know and maybe close it because there's no need for that.