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if any of you have a digital camera and white galaxy note, can you please post a picture of plain white display (via LCD Test *#0*#) in low brightness. Please let me know. thank you all in advance.
Here you go. Hopefully the file attaches (I think it may be too large).
Oh, it looks like it may have downsized it. Let me know if you need more detail.
Is that dirt or a dead pixels on that image?
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Must have been specs of dust. I checked just now and they're not there.
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Is that dirt or a dead pixels on that image?
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I bet you almost gave him a heart attack
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I bet you almost gave him a heart attack
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hahahahahaha
Thanks a lot! Do you have a screen protector applied on top of that? I see something that looks like mura lines. I'm sure those are not mura lines but the way the camera was focused on the screen. Also that display brightness was set to the lowest, right?
It would be great to see more users contribute to this thread. I'm making a tally to convince myself to buy a White note. My black note was serviced several times due to screen issues, and am getting a refund. Not letting go of the note just yet.
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Here you go. Hopefully the file attaches (I think it may be too large).
Oh, it looks like it may have downsized it. Let me know if you need more detail.
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don't know if my eyes are playing me, I do see a couple of horizontal lines, I don't know if that is due to the screen protector or the angle the picture was taken from, don't wanna scare you, but I am hoping that the next wave of batches have a better production like the S2.
The witch hunt continues
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Always Positive...
However, you can definitely appreciate the fact that the White Note has a better display than the Black. Horizontal lines or not, they definitely display less on the White compared to the Black. Hope to see more pictures soon!
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Thanks a lot! Do you have a screen protector applied on top of that? I see something that looks like mura lines. I'm sure those are not mura lines but the way the camera was focused on the screen. Also that display brightness was set to the lowest, right?
It would be great to see more users contribute to this thread. I'm making a tally to convince myself to buy a White note. My black note was serviced several times due to screen issues, and am getting a refund. Not letting go of the note just yet.
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No screen protector. And yes, I set the brightness all the way down before I took that photo.
I think if you're seeing a moire pattern it may be because of the difference in resolution between the reduced-resolution image and your monitor. I'm looking at the original photo in Photoshop and when I zoom in and out I see changing moire patterns at certain zoom levels, but don't notice anything when I look at it zoomed in at 100%, or even at 50%. And of course I don't see any moire pattern when looking at the phone itself.
Oh, and the brighter area in the lower left of the photo is my hand's reflection.
I do, however, see faint horizontal (vertical in this photo) banding on the screen when looking at the phone. I couldn't say whether it's any better or worse than the black/carbon blue version, as I've never seen one. I'd describe the banding as very faint, but visible if you're looking hard for it. And when looking at a blank white screen like this, I also have a general sense that not every part of the screen is quite the same level of brightness. Again, not major, but noticeable when looking at a solid white screen.
You'd need to reduce the brightness further with Screen Adjuster from the market. The basic brightness setting at 0% is probably only at 50% of what the screen is actually at. So you can go much dimmer to reveal the manufacturing process.
Learn to live with it. The marks don't affect the functionality of the screen. While I have noticeable marks on the bottom right half of the corner and vertical streaks, I don't let it deter me from enjoying this elegant piece of tech!
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However, you can definitely appreciate the fact that the White Note has a better display than the Black. Horizontal lines or not, they definitely display less on the White compared to the Black. Hope to see more pictures soon!
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That is bollocks My new white 32 GB Note has a much worse display than my former two blue 16 GB. Think I gonna send it back so that the white has a better display is pure dreams
I just ordered my white note today. Looking forward to it arriving on my doorstep tomorrow!
guys make sure to turnoff AUTO ADJUST SCREEN POWER in display options.
i have black unit and i done lcd test on low brightness.no lines or anything.
if you have to download app to lower brightness even more to see defect.then something is wrong with u.because ur looking for reasons to find some kind of defect.everything is not perfect.if u cant see it on normal use,then its good piece.
Please prove me wrong!
Anyone have any links to videos showing a Note rendering dark grays correctly?
watch the demovideo on your note.
The dozens of reviews which acknowledge how good the screen is proves you wrong.
Pfffff. Tests with Samsung handselected devices. Or do you think that Samsung will send defectiv devices to the testers?
The note I got from bell has no screen issues at all.
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The note I got from bell has no screen issues at all.
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you can see down to one in gammatest??
no black clipping??
no banding??
and: no dark blotches on a complete black picture in a dark room? (you have to see whole screen lightly lit (amoled cant go completely black), and let your eyes accommodate to the darkness!
SGN sucks on screen quality, its own spen scratch the "good" screen... really disappointed.
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you can see down to one in gammatest??
no black clipping??
no banding??
and: no dark blotches on a complete black picture in a dark room? (you have to see whole screen lightly lit (amoled cant go completely black), and let your eyes accommodate to the darkness!
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I dunno looks find like all my other phones.
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I honestly havent went out of my way to find any issues with the screen.
The videos I have watched all look awesome..I did notice on some dark images there was some banding or whatever its called but thats all I can tell..
I'm not that great with colors so I may not notice as much but it looks great to me so far.
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you can see down to one in gammatest??
no black clipping??
no banding??
and: no dark blotches on a complete black picture in a dark room? (you have to see whole screen lightly lit (amoled cant go completely black), and let your eyes accommodate to the darkness!
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Mine is fine with some tweaks. Primarily -40% contrast. I can see down to '2' on that test image. I also notice little or no blotchiness in dark videos any more, although I did before adjustment.
It's a software issue IMO.
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Please prove me wrong!
Anyone have any links to videos showing a Note rendering dark grays correctly?
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I share the same sentiment as no one with a 'perfect screen' has shared it. The best I've seen is one w/o any black clipping what so ever since his gamma test result is similar to a Galaxy S2 but I do see a few visible horizontal lines on a grey screen. Its not perfect but its with in specifications aside from the lines.
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To the unwise it may seem incorrect since they are only looking at the smaller picture and dont really have a clue on what this 'objective' test is for, let me give a real life example:
Using the Kindle application for reading ebooks gives you the option to use a black background now some screens have very visible blotches even if there is a text on the screen and they are become unoticeable when there is a text above them, this of course matters to someone who reads ebooks in their bedrooms w/o any external light source or to someone who watches movies like me. You see if we ask someone to open kindle and load up something and do this and do that, it makes the 'testing' more subjective rather than just test it in a pitch black room with a black image displayed.
These tests may sound silly to others but its the best way to get an objective result, remember people theres a difference between 'its not there' and 'i dont notice it with normal usage'.
here is an example that hopefully may enlighten you people with self proclaimed perfect screens so you may understand why its so difficult for others to accept such screen exists because with several replacements they havent seen one yet and people always claim that defects are the extreme minority, if its true then no one should need more than 2 replacements to get these perfect screens, correct?
It is also common for others to be dismissive of any screen related issues, you can be dismissive all you want provided you show an objective result. till then your screen is just as flawed as everyone else.
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here is an example that hopefully may enlighten you people with self proclaimed perfect screens
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Are those dark rings one of the issues that everyone is complaining about? If so, I'll have to look at my unit, but I suppose I've just been extremely lucky. I have yet to notice any issues. That's not to say there aren't any issues with my device (possibly), if I look really hard, in very specific conditions
I do not have any black blotches or whatever.
One of the issue I have is the gray screen. It has somesort of texture on it but it's tolerable since it looks like a texturized wallpaper. No problems with playing videos at all, everything looks crisp and clear. So far I am enjoying it.
Also, another issue is the camera. When I am around those long florescent lights, there seems to be some wavy things on my screen. Even on video. I guess I got to avoid those lights in taking pictures. Haha.
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Are those dark rings one of the issues that everyone is complaining about? If so, I'll have to look at my unit, but I suppose I've just been extremely lucky. I have yet to notice any issues. That's not to say there aren't any issues with my device (possibly), if I look really hard, in very specific conditions
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That Image i used came from the Tab7.7 forums which shows the issue and practical scenario at the same time. Its an example of the darker blotches in blacks, not really the main issue on the Galaxy Note but one of the many possible yet rare issue.
On my end, my first screen had some blotches but they were not visible when I watch a movie or read an ebook from the kindle app, the 2nd screen I had did have a home button sized like blotch at the bottom which was visible when reading ebooks unless a text is close to it, in movies/shows it is only visible when the entire screen goes black.
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Using the Kindle application for reading ebooks gives you the option to use a black background now some screens have very visible blotches even if there is a text on the screen and they are become unoticeable when there is a text above them, this of course matters to someone who reads ebooks in their bedrooms w/o any external light source or to someone who watches movies like me. You see if we ask someone to open kindle and load up something and do this and do that, it makes the 'testing' more subjective rather than just test it in a pitch black room with a black image displayed.
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after seeing your picture, i want to test my note. i use a small chamber without a window and close the door, so its absolute dark in there. i take a picture from the screen of my note while using kindle with background set to black. i use my lumix dmc-fx01 digicam to take the picture. am i just lucky with the screen of my note, or did i something worng while testing?
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That Image i used came from the Tab7.7 forums which shows the issue and practical scenario at the same time. Its an example of the darker blotches in blacks, not really the main issue on the Galaxy Note but one of the many possible yet rare issue.
On my end, my first screen had some blotches but they were not visible when I watch a movie or read an ebook from the kindle app, the 2nd screen I had did have a home button sized like blotch at the bottom which was visible when reading ebooks unless a text is close to it, in movies/shows it is only visible when the entire screen goes black.
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Once again, I guess I have been extremely lucky with both my Note and my 7.7, because I have yet to notice any of these issues with either
Black clipping and banding = software. Therefore, irrelevant from a hardware perspective.
The splotches that you see in the most dark of conditions are the artifacts of the manufacturing process. Under normal 0% brightness (without using additional apps like screen adjuster) you will not be able to see these things assuming you've got a good screen.
The only things you need to look out for is color unevenness and brightness unevenness and in some cases, the manufacturing process is so prominent that it seeps into the normal brightness (0% and up range) and it is visible.
The fastest way to tell if there is something wrong is to turn off all auto-lcd power management, set the brightness to 0%, and to simply pull down the notification menu and view it in a dark place. That'll reveal most of the problems that you might find in a day to day situation. If you see nothing there and the screen looks crisp, don't bother looking for more. They will not appear in normal real-world situations.
No blotches on mine. Very happy with the quality. The color profile seems nicer than on my i9100. The only screen I had with noticeable blotches (only seen at full darkness) was on my T989.
So ya, very happy with my Note's screen. White International N7000
The witch hunt started with the original sgs and continues with the note.
Im on my second note plus a screen replacement and screens are flawless. Yes there is somme banding on all of amoled screens. Its partially software because running ics alpha build, most of the banding is gone.
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Hi
My GN black screen is not deep black it's a weird scratched gray-scale, i painted it and you can see what i see in a 100% dark room.
it's not a wallpaper issue i can see it in boot screen and even in LCD test ( *#0*# ) vibration (black) test.
what's wrong with my phone? is it a general problem or it's upon my chance?
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Hi
My GN black screen is not deep black it's a weird scratched gray-scale, i painted it and you can see what i see in a 100% dark room.
it's not a wallpaper issue i can see it in boot screen and even in LCD test ( *#0*# ) vibration (black) test.
what's wrong with my phone? is it a general problem or it's upon my chance?
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please use the search function, there are a LOT postings/threads regarding this!
in short:
its a "normal" AMOLED behavior to be NOT completely dark when the screen is active (even when displaying a black image or even nothing), but:
the quality differs massively between devices, some have more darker "blotches" and lines, some less...
you have to distinguish between two things:
.) amoleds are not completely dark when the screen is active
.) due to quality issues there are deviations (blotches and lines) which are little darker then the rest of the "faintly glowing" screen. some more, some less!
and now: search and read!
Aria_Cop said:
Hi
My GN black screen is not deep black it's a weird scratched gray-scale, i painted it and you can see what i see in a 100% dark room.
it's not a wallpaper issue i can see it in boot screen and even in LCD test ( *#0*# ) vibration (black) test.
what's wrong with my phone? is it a general problem or it's upon my chance?
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it's a common problem for most note\SGS2\Nexus owners ,it's faulty screen
note:
1.All SAMOLED screens display non pure black ,100% black is an urban myth.]
2.healthy AMOLED panels should display black as an even deep grey.
3.some panels have these sketches and\or blobs when displaying total black ,it is a manufacturing defect but nothing too serious to worry about in everyday use.
if it bothers you (the lines) then have it replaced under a warranty ,though you may end up with something worse after that.
EDIT: @TML1504 you've beaten me to it .lol
nothing is perfect
Thanks Dudes,
i did search for this issue but i couldn't find anything about these weird sketches lines , when i bought this device i thought it's a company logo for advertising s-pen
i checked for other peoples issues and my device just have this black issue, so if it's common i'm not unhappier than others.
i was disappointed of GN because of bad video playback (square black) and some hanging on bluetooth share music and etc but there is no perfect device in the world.
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Thanks Dudes,
i did search for this issue but i couldn't find anything about these weird sketches lines , when i bought this device i thought it's a company logo for advertising s-pen
i checked for other peoples issues and my device just have this black issue, so if it's common i'm not unhappier than others.
i was disappointed of GN because of bad video playback (square black) and some hanging on bluetooth share music and etc but there is no perfect device in the world.
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well actually the sketching have nothing to do with bad video playback ,the square black clipping is sammsung's faulty drivers ,updating to ICS should fix about 80% of the issue.
also supercurio is working on an app that should fix it ,so keep your hopes up.
WARNING: Read the sticky announcement regarding ICS ,as all official ICS ROMs have the ability to brick your device.
only CM9 is safe at the moment
Same issue with me...!
I have the same problem and also went to the service centre for the the same, it's a normal behavior and you are not the only one who is suffering from this. I saw lot of Galaxy Note models some have much more dark spots some have less, it's purely on your luck what you got.
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I have the same problem and also went to the service centre for the the same, it's a normal behavior and you are not the only one who is suffering from this. I saw lot of Galaxy Note models some have much more dark spots some have less, it's purely on your luck what you got.
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what i understood when reading samsung phone owners issues is people are not satisfied for what they buyed...
it's my first samsung phone and i think it will be the last one.
Its like lcd screen, you watch picture from old tv, looks good, on lcd tv you see how crappy it actually is. Lol
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Go into the darkest room you can find in your house.
Boot into recovery
Put your hand infront of the blue text.
See how it's not 100% black? Now take your hand away and it will all appear totally black.
my problem is not with completely black or gray screen.
my phone panel shows some lines and sketches (looks like s-pen trail as i attached) and blobs.
i checked another galaxy note and see that's panel display is even gray without any sketches.
i think they tested the s-pen before they install gorilla glass
My phone looks completely black when the screen is on and I just have a black wallpaper. Also, when it is booting up, completely black. I've read several things on here about people having problems with the screen, but I have absolutely no problems. The thing about AMOLED that I have read is it CAN in fact be true black when nothing is shown on the screen. Say for instance the Galaxy Note boot logo, all around it should be pure black. That's what's awesome about this display. If it's not, its a faulty display, end of story.
should i use warranty to change my phone?
how i prove this issue to that guys?
I am in auto brightness, dark zones on my screen look really black I think.
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My phone looks completely black when the screen is on and I just have a black wallpaper. Also, when it is booting up, completely black. I've read several things on here about people having problems with the screen, but I have absolutely no problems. The thing about AMOLED that I have read is it CAN in fact be true black when nothing is shown on the screen. Say for instance the Galaxy Note boot logo, all around it should be pure black. That's what's awesome about this display. If it's not, its a faulty display, end of story.
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yes that's the impression you get while looking at any AMOLED screen ,but trust me ,none of them are 100% black ,and I've seen at least three and tested them thoroughly .
to test you need to be somewhere dark ,under a blanket in your dark bed room is an excellent choice for this.
then turn on the display and show a black wallpaper ,or the blackscreen test by samsung.
let your eyes adjust to the darkness for a while then turn the screen off ,you should notice it going off and see that it's darker now ,turn it on again and you'll see some light come out of the screen.
you need a bit of concentration but it's there believe me.
Why the F*** are all you ppl whining over black in a dark room ?
Are you freakin' vampyres ?
Normal ppl live at daytime, where there is ambient light.
Now if your screen looks bad in NORMAL circumstances, is when you have
the right to yell and cry and even whine on XDA
I think it's because the super amoled display of the gnote ,the screen of the gs2 is super amoled plus...
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friedje said:
Why the F*** are all you ppl whining over black in a dark room ?
Are you freakin' vampyres ?
Normal ppl live at daytime, where there is ambient light.
Now if your screen looks bad in NORMAL circumstances, is when you have
the right to yell and cry and even whine on XDA
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first ,chill down ,no one is whining about anything
second ,yes the note's screen has problems like the banding and clipping issues which are visible in any situation .
third ,no one has the right to whine about it on XDA ,they should whine about it to samsung
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I think it's because the super amoled display of the gnote ,the screen of the gs2 is super amoled plus...
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irrelevant ,as you can see by my signature ,I had an S2 before ,it's not pure black .period
however the S2 didn't have banding or clipping issues ,which are present in the note
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first ,chill down ,no one is whining about anything
second ,yes the note's screen has problems like the banding and clipping issues which are visible in any situation .
third ,no one has the right to whine about it on XDA ,they should whine about it to samsung
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irrelevant ,as you can see by my signature ,I had an S2 before ,it's not pure black .period
however the S2 didn't have banding or clipping issues ,which are present in the note
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No need to chill, i am/was completely calm.
lmao, that was funny
Hey guys,
I've had my nexus 4 for a week now and I am super pleased by it. The phone runs like a dream.
The only issue I seem to be having is that I can see the IPS sensors even with the screen on!.
I'm talking about the little transparent-gray squares all over it, not about the super awesome dots that you can see with direct sunlight.
This is flipping me out!
Is anybody else having this problem with it?
I can't appreciate the beautiful screen because of this.
Also, when displaying single color frames specially dark ones, like on the clock app , the colors are not really solid.
I get this vertical stripes that are approximate to the color but not quite it.
Im posting a screenshot but I don't think that youll be able to notice it since it may be a hardware problem.
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That's a hardware thing, not visible in screenshots. You'd need to take an actual picture.
Are you referring to the dot grid that is visible in direct sunlight? Everyone has is. It's because of the fact that the screen is integrated into the glass.
I think it looks kind of cool but that might just be me.
Edit: Gotta read the whole thread first I guess you're not talking about the dots. I have no idea what you're talking about then.
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Question to the OP. Do YOU see anything wrong with those images, or is it a hardware problem? I can't see any difference between your screen shots and my phone.
Damn it man, now i see them too -.-
I went to the clock app, and i can see some stripes on the left but mine are vertical.
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That's a hardware thing, not visible in screenshots. You'd need to take an actual picture.
Are you referring to the dot grid that is visible in direct sunlight? Everyone has is. It's because of the fact that the screen is integrated into the glass.
I think it looks kind of cool but that might just be me.
Edit: Gotta read the whole thread first I guess you're not talking about the dots. I have no idea what you're talking about then.
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Hello after using my nexus for almost 2 weeks today i noticed some vertical line (of Dots) on my screen under direct sunlight...these dots very moving and can be seen with screen off also..
is there any thing to worry..
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Hello after using my nexus for almost 2 weeks today i noticed some vertical line (of Dots) on my screen under direct sunlight...these dots very moving and can be seen with screen off also..
is there any thing to worry..
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Haha Dude that's the digitizer. Don't worry. It's all cool.
Chill out people.. Its just the digitizer that you can see, so close to the screen for better touchscreen responsiveness. The most likely reason you can still see it with your device screen on is that you have your brightness too low.. Put it up
even amoled screen are also the same
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When I first got my Nexus4 the weird screen was the first thing that popped out at me. Between the visible digitizer matrix that glints when it catches the sun wrong, to the odd rectangles that can be seen behind the screen I was initially bummed and thought about returning the phone. It doesn't even bother me anymore
This is my 8th android device and the first one that has a funky screen like this, but it really isnt a big deal. Under 95 percent of conditions it looks really nice
I have been able to see the digitizer on every single capacitive screen i have ever owned.
@David_Azar I have to agree.. initially I was disgusted by how prominent the digitzer pattern was, I've never had ANY screen show it as much as the Nexus 4 does.
However, the vertical stripes you're referencing is commonly referred to as "banding". I have this on my Nexus 4 as well, most visible on grays (especially darker grays).
I have been doing some research and I believe the banding issue will reduce over time. If you check your screen when displaying a white background at max brightness, such as gmail or chrome browser, you should see a slight yellowing of the whites. It appears this can be due to the adhesive they used to glue the digitizer to the screen not curing completely. After several weeks of use, the heat from the processor will help cure the adhesive causing the yellow to disappear after a while.
I cannot say for certain that it will completely resolve the banding issue, but I have noticed that the worst banding is in the areas where the yellow tint is most prominent. I have also been testing my display every day to monitor any changes, and I am happy to report I do see a minor reduction in both the yellowing and banding (I've only had my Nexus 4 for five days so far).
Give it a couple of weeks, run some intensive games to get the processor to heat up every day. Keep brightness at max for the next few weeks and let us know if you see any improvements.
As for the pattern of the digitizer in the glass.. it's not going anywhere so get used to it. I don't like it much either but it seems to be less prominent once you start becoming used to it.
Good luck, let us know how it goes
Hey man,
Curiously enough I've never had the yellow tints everybody's complaining about. I'm used to The digitizer matrix ( rectangles) buy at first it was really weird. I was coming from a non HD display ( a RAZR Maxx) so naturally, I expected that my N4 would have a perfect screen.
I've had my N4 for almost two months now and the banding has not reduced. I made some research over the last month and I found that with some kernel settings for saturation the banding is reduced. I'm not sure if it is really reduced or the clear gray tones that have the banding just don't appear anymore because of the saturation.
The Trinity kernel reduces this a bit but like I said, your screen will look life a f*** ing AMOLED.
Right now I'm using the kernel provided by the 123 FAUX CLOCK project. I'm using the LG factory presets and for the most part I'm really happy with the screen. If you or anybody else comes up with a different solution, let others know on this thread.
Peace brothers.
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Just for kicks, if you stop by a T-mobile location compare your screen with the display model and see if you can spot the yellow tint on either screen (on a white background)
I will update this thread with my phone's progress (or lack thereof if it stops improving).
I get banding issues also, more noticeable in grey backgrounds; but I can I see them in other colors if I look hard enough
I use a dark black theme to avoid looking at those bands
I can say this. I've had a ton of devices..latest was s3 and I'll just say I'm stoked to have IPS over pen tile. Just knowing HD was plagued by this alone was enough for me to ditch Sammy all together especially after seeing rgb on note 2 was no better. This is my opinion of Samsung's design ...I know why they chose it but I can't and won't buy another amoled until they get another tech in order. So now I say kudos on IPS but I'm surely a screen purest and I found these hardware screen/digitizer artifacts you speak of and to me its so much less noticeable. Your not alone. You just like good clean HD like me. Lol HTC one should be a nice one to check out...
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That would be a little like kicking myself in the nuts. Nothing good can come out of that.
If I spot the yellow tints once, then I will always look for it. I hate doing that with the banding but it's an automatic thing.
I dunno why but it really bums me out whenever I have a problem with my phone.
Let's keep posting of someone finds a solution or something .
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I've got the quite visible digitizer rectangles too. In anything less than a dark room if the phone is not on a perfect angle they are visible.
I can't really tell if "everyone's" is like that, or just some are "worse" than others.
visibledigi1.jpg
Here's an image with them visible with the screen on (and at an angle) - difficult to take a photo of - but much easier to see with the naked eye.
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Few more with the screen off.
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I've got the quite visible digitizer rectangles too. In anything less than a dark room if the phone is not on a perfect angle they are visible.
I can't really tell if "everyone's" is like that, or just some are "worse" than others.
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Here's an image with them visible with the screen on (and at an angle) - difficult to take a photo of - but much easier to see with the naked eye.
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Went and checked out an Optimus G today (Nexus 4 isn't actually released in Japan). Given that a Nexus 4 is just a remodeled Optimus G I thought it'd be worth comparing screens. The digitizer matrix is barely visible on the G I was looking at with the screen OFF. With it on you could almost see it at some angles. It is much more visible on my Nexus 4 which you can almost always see with the screen off and at an angle and often with the screen on.
I'm leaning towards my phone being "less than a perfect example of a Nexus 4" and not the "norm" at the moment.
they are much more noticeable in Rev 11 devices and they where barely visible in Rev 10, i am sure that there is a technical reason behind it
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they are much more noticeable in Rev 11 devices and they where barely visible in Rev 10, i am sure that there is a technical reason behind it
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See that explains it a little more. Not sure I see the logic in putting a screen with pretty decent viewing angles on a device and then sticking a really visible digitizer on it though.
I've contacted the seller and I guess I'll wait and see what they say in regard to it.
Hi everybody,
Since a few days a got this blurry facebook page in my screen. How could I solve this problem please ?
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Hi everybody,
Since a few days a got this blurry facebook page in my screen. How could I solve this problem please ?
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Take a photo with another phone... the solution is change the screen.
viper531986 said:
Take a photo with another phone... the solution is change the screen.
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But what is he trying to say. I don't see anything wrong in the screenshot.
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I'll try to show you you with this screenshot.
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Hi everybody,
Since a few days a got this blurry facebook page in my screen. How could I solve this problem please ?
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Do you mean a ghost image? If so, it's a common problem of amoled displays. You must not being for a long period with the same image in the display. Do you know, for instance, that samsung as applied in the new S8 a almost invisible scheme to move time to time the virtual home buttons to avoid burn the display?
It's exactly that: a ghost image. It is the first time I notice that
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It's exactly that: a ghost image. It is the first time I notice that
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Ok. It's common my friend, but most of people don't notice that bcause wallpapers are not bright enough or don't have regular colors etc. etc. For see the effect that AMOLED screen don't resist to much and burns easily, you can notice that in demo cellphones in retail stores. It's also the reason that sometimes they use videos instead static images...
There are a few apps in google store to fix that. What they do is being about 8 hours presenting strong colors to the screen alternately (I think for burning all the screen evenly). I tried some in my galaxy S5 but no results... Any case you can try...
The best thing to do since beginning to avoid the screen burn in is not abuse of screen brightness and do not use for a long time static images or images with strong sharp colors like the strong blue bar at top of Facebook...
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Ok. It's common my friend, but most of people don't notice that bcause wallpapers are not bright enough or don't have regular colors etc. etc. For see the effect that AMOLED screen don't resist to much and burns easily, you can notice that in demo cellphones in retail stores. It's also the reason that sometimes they use videos instead static images...
There are a few apps in google store to fix that. What they do is being about 8 hours presenting strong colors to the screen alternately (I think for burning all the screen evenly). I tried some in my galaxy S5 but no results... Any case you can try...
The best thing to do since beginning is not abuse of screen brightness and do not use so much time static images or images with strong sharp colors like the strong blue bar at top of Facebook...
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I don't see it in that screenshot or on my phone even.
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thahim said:
I don't see it in that screenshot or on my phone even.
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we don't see that in his screenshots because screenshot is a digital pure image, not the image that he sees in HIS display. For us to see the ghost image in his display he must take a photo with another outside camera
If you want to notice that in your own phone try to have a regular white image in your phone above all screen area. Perhaps you can notice already at least the battery percentage, watch digits, or wifi or network scale in notification status bar place. Try it
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we don't see that in his screenshots because screenshot is a digital pure image, not the image that he sees in HIS display. For us to see the ghost image in his display he must take a photo with another outside camera
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Is this problem with all phones? I have S8 plus and it doesn't seems to have this yet.
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Is this problem with all phones? I have S8 plus and it doesn't seems to have this yet.
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Yes is a problem of all AMOLED screen phones, like plasma tv's - burn-in screen problem, you can search in internet. If your phone is a S8, is too new to be burned already. Also If you take those advises I said probably the problem take more time to appear. Any case I wrote any posts above too the Samsung trick with home virtual buttons to avoid or disguise the burn-in and ghost image of home buttons. It's one reason that I prefer physic buttons...
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Yes is a problem of all AMOLED screen phones, like plasma tv's - burn-in screen problem, you can search in internet. If your phone is a S8, is too new to be burned already. Also If you take those advises I said probably the problem take more time to appear. Any case I wrote any posts above too the Samsung trick with home virtual buttons to avoid or disguise the burn-in and ghost image of home buttons. It's one reason that I prefer physic buttons...
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I also have s6edge edge plus which also has amoled screen. No problems yet. So I have to keep brightness to lower level and don't keep an image with bright colors yeah ?
How can S8 started having it?
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I also have s6edge edge plus which also has amoled screen. No problems yet. So I have to keep brightness to lower level and don't keep an image with bright colors yeah ?
How can S8 started having it?
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yes, more or less that you said. But first you must understand the technology. While LCD screens have a led light bulb that illuminate all screen and respective pixels (passive) and this ones not have own light, only take several colors, in amoled screen are the pixels who make the emission of light. This light of each pixel is too strong for it size. It's the reason why amoled screen is more detailed, vibrant colors, bright and with a infinite contrast. Now think, if you have a static image that is half white, half black it means that half pixels are turned on burning in the maximum while the other half ones are turned off spared. If this image are presented for a long time it means that half of pixels are already stressed while others are new in their maximum power of brightness. Now can you take easily your own conclusions why this happen and how can you try to avoid it? But it's only avoid a little bit, because in the end, there's no solution for it, unless you don't use the screen...
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yes, more or less that you said. But first you must understand the technology. While LCD screens have a led light bulb that illuminate all screen and respective pixels (passive) and this ones not have own light, only take several colors, in amoled screen are the pixels who make the emission of light. This light of each pixel is too strong for it size. It's the reason why amoled screen is more detailed, vibrant colors, bright and with a infinite contrast. Now think, if you have a static image that is half white, half black it means that half pixels are turned on burning in the maximum while the other half ones are turned off spared. If this image are presented for a long time it means that half of pixels are already stressed while others are new in their maximum power of brightness. Now can you take easily your own conclusions why this happen and how can you try to avoid it? But it's only avoid a little bit, because in the end, there's no solution for it, unless you don't use the screen...
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I didn't get this problem on my s6 edge plus
Anyways for how long is it safe to stay on same screen?
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thahim said:
I didn't get this problem on my s6 edge plus
Anyways for how long is it safe to stay on same screen?
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of course I can't secure to you how many minutes you must avoid to be on same screen! Simply try to avoid it as you can. For instance, I can tell you that my Samsung galaxy S5 suffered a display burn-in because I used S-view cover. The window area of the S-view case became dimmer (burnerer) because when it was close, only this area was illuminated at the maximum bright when notifications came like messages, mails or phone calls.
Also I became noticing that that area at the top of screen of notifications bar, wifi bar, network bar, battery and clock (that always is black) - in a regular color photo presentation that notification bar is not presented, that area was more brilliant because the pixels were most of time off, and also I could see the battery, wifi and clock ghost image. I became noticing that, after 6 months of purchased the cellphone...
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of course I can't secure to you how many minutes you must avoid to be on same screen! Simply try to avoid it as you can. For instance, I can tell you that my Samsung galaxy S5 suffered a display burn-in because I used S-view cover. The window area of the S-view case became dimmer (burnerer) because when it was close, only this area was illuminated at the maximum bright when notifications came like messages, mails or phone calls.
Also I became noticing that that area at the top of screen of notifications bar, wifi bar, network bar, battery and clock (that always is black) - in a regular color photo presentation that that notification bar doesn't appear, that area was more brilliant because the pixels were most of time off, and also I could see the battery, wifi and clock ghost image. I became noticing that, after 6 months of purchased the cellphone...
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If it's like that it must burn in the always on display part of the screen or the nav bar.
thahim said:
I didn't get this problem on my s6 edge plus
Anyways for how long is it safe to stay on same screen?
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If it's like that it must burn in the always on display part of the screen or the nav bar.
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As you can notice, the "always on" objects are moving time to time to avoid burn in of those pixels. The same for the home buttons in the galaxy S8. The black bar or tab in the top, or the blue bar in same area of facebook or other app's like some browsers, whatsapp etc. there's no chance to avoid the dimmer difference between the rest area and this one, also ghost numbers of clock, battery and so on. Of course as much of bright you have in scale, faster will be the burn-in effect and more you'll notice ghost images or tabs.
Me, to avoid that also, I installed a black theme background, not only to save battery ( in AMOLED screens white illumination screen area drain battery) as also to avoid white and strong color areas, cause these ones burn faster the pixels