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We have 4G phones now!

Yay!
T-Mobile has decided that its HSPA+ network qualifies as "4G," so that's what they're calling it now. I feel faster already!

KeithAdv said:
Yay!
T-Mobile has decided that its HSPA+ network qualifies as "4G," so that's what they're calling it now. I feel faster already!
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lol they still call it 3g with 4G speeds
sorry to burst your bubble

I think calling it HSPA+ does it more justice than "4G". And it's "4G-like speeds" since I believe serious 4G is 100 Mbps on the down speed.
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thank you agreed

http://www.tmonews.com/2010/11/t-mobile-readying-bone-crushing-4g-speeds/
They will push it beyond 168 Mbps... any complains??

jcX4ever said:
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/11/t-mobile-readying-bone-crushing-4g-speeds/
They will push it beyond 168 Mbps... any complains??
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Wow, so how fast will we be able to use up our 5gigs?

Old news is Old.

ikarma said:
Wow, so how fast will we be able to use up our 5gigs?
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pr0n lol j/k
I think the 5gig limit cap is pretty small :\
I tend to game and download a lot of files so I could go through that within a week. Does anybody know what the throttled speeds are after you cap the 5gig limit?

FlyLikeAG2 said:
pr0n lol j/k
I think the 5gig limit cap is pretty small :\
I tend to game and download a lot of files so I could go through that within a week. Does anybody know what the throttled speeds are after you cap the 5gig limit?
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supposedly edge speeds

jcX4ever said:
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/11/t-mobile-readying-bone-crushing-4g-speeds/
They will push it beyond 168 Mbps... any complains??
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yes, that 168 is FUTURE plans..... (who knows when that will be)
ACTIVE thoretical speeds are 21 Mbps
ACTIVE actual speeds are 6MBps - 12MBps (peak)
they have to go through stages... like 42 MBps upgrade..... and so on... they are not gonna jump to 168 over night..... there arent even any devices out that support those speeds. HECK we dont even have devices right now that support 21 MBps.... G2 is capable of 14.4 max MBPS....
I am not flaming you or anything, just saying that you can't always count on future speculations.
I love T-Mo btw, and deff love their new marketing strategy.

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Old news is Old.
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Really? The article I'm referring to was posted on the Information Week site today, November 3, 2010 08:50 AM, just a couple hours before I posted here.
Does everyone understand that what they're apparently saying now isn't "the G2 is a phone with 4G speeds," but that HSPA+ is literally 4G?
In a press release issued yesterday, T-Mobile specifically refers to the G2 as one of their "4G products." I hadn't seem them do that before.

FlyLikeAG2 said:
pr0n lol j/k
I think the 5gig limit cap is pretty small :\
I tend to game and download a lot of files so I could go through that within a week. Does anybody know what the throttled speeds are after you cap the 5gig limit?
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60kilobits/sec, which quite frankly is next to useless.

This is becoming an interesting little tempest in a teapot today. The Wall Street Journal weighed in about an hour ago. I can't post links, but google "4G Image Scrambled As T-Mobile USA Enters The Mix" and you'll find it.
According to the article, T-Mobile began their campaign yesterday (so I'm still not sure how it's "old news," although I know folks here are pretty plugged in).
On T-Mobile's main site, I'm not seeing references to HSPA+ anymore. They're just "America's largest 4G network" and the G2 is a 4G product.
Lotta controversy coming from the competitors, though.

funkadesi said:
yes, that 168 is FUTURE plans..... (who knows when that will be)
ACTIVE thoretical speeds are 21 Mbps
ACTIVE actual speeds are 6MBps - 12MBps (peak)
they have to go through stages... like 42 MBps upgrade..... and so on... they are not gonna jump to 168 over night..... there arent even any devices out that support those speeds. HECK we dont even have devices right now that support 21 MBps.... G2 is capable of 14.4 max MBPS....
I am not flaming you or anything, just saying that you can't always count on future speculations.
I love T-Mo btw, and deff love their new marketing strategy.
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No, my G2 went to 19 mbs on wifi I think its peak might be in the 40s
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I can partially agree that it's "old news" because I understood it a while ago that it's not truly 4G. I also noticed that today, there've been more articles being released about T-Mobile's campaign.
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I can partially agree that it's "old news" because I understood it a while ago that it's not truly 4G. I also noticed that today, there've been more articles being released about T-Mobile's campaign.
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Those articles are all responding to the press release and campaign begun by TMO yesterday, which has started a controversy. In short, they say your understanding is wrong now.
Yes, we all know that prior to yesterday TMO was saying the G2 had "4G-like speeds."
But starting yesterday, they said, basically, "heck with it, our HSPA+ network IS 4G. Consumers aren't interested in all that 'alphabet soup.'" (their words).
So, if you walk into the store where I bought an HSPA+ G2 two weeks ago, they are now selling 4G G2s. Same phone, though.
Im the original post, I was simply pointing out that their announcement yesterday kicked up a backlash all over the net today. Even the Huffington Post had an article, calling TMO's network a "4GERY." (Clever.)

androidfeen809 said:
No, my G2 went to 19 mbs on wifi I think its peak might be in the 40s
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wow, should I waste my time telling you that we are talking about CELLULAR DATA.
not Wifi data.......
noobs these days....

ilikepu said:
lol they still call it 3g with 4G speeds
sorry to burst your bubble
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You mean 3G speeds called 4G lol
actually 3.6G
Nobody has 4G speeds yet, it's an advertising gimmick

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No, my G2 went to 19 mbs on wifi I think its peak might be in the 40s
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New PRL. Update for EVO. 60676

Just update the new PRL, now let's test the 3G data out. Fellow EVO owners, let's see if the new PRL helps your 3G data speed.
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This has been posted already....

What happens if I update my prl???
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Didn't know that this was posted. 1604 up and 719 down just south of Nashville. Nice.
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Stevo760 hopefully that this new PRL helps your data speed.
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damn 1600? lucky bastard. anyone else confirm this? im on cm with verizon prl and i would hate to go back to sense right now to try it out

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damn 1600? lucky bastard. anyone else confirm this? im on cm with verizon prl and i would hate to go back to sense right now to try it out
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No, this PRL, like others have done nothing to help my 3g speed.....my 4g speed is the same at around 8Mb/s.

1761 up 861 down n.e. ohio

Here's another 3G test read. This one is from Atlanta. 1202 up 689 down. I'm an owner operator in the trucking business, so I test out my data as I travel the country. My 3G data started to suck like many others, for me, it started in January. 19 to 400 kbs up and or down. I bought my EVO the first day it went on sale. Never had a problem with the data speed until I went over 5 gigs of usage back in January, in which that I used around 9 plus gigs. I'm on the unlimited everything plan. This is just my opinion, I believe that Sprint is putting us on the throttle. Getting 2.4 megs up and 800 kbs down on 3G was not uncommon for me to achieve in many locations around the USA, especially in the north east. Not any more.
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scsapril69 said:
Here's another 3G test read. This one is from Atlanta. 1202 up 689 down. I'm an owner operator in the trucking business, so I test out my data as I travel the country. My 3G data started to suck like many others around January. I bought my EVO the first day it went on sale. Never had a problem with the data speed until I went over 5 gigs of usage back in January, in which that I used around 9 plus gigs. I'm on the unlimited everything plan. This is just my opinion, I believe that Sprint is putting us on the throttle. Getting 2.4 megs up and 800 kbs down on 3G was not uncommon for me to achieve in many locations around the USA, especially in the north east. Not any more.
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Don't think they are throttling us because its to big of an outage.. for everyone sake let's hope they are about to announce a update to their network!
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Just got off the phone with (a very pleasant) Sprint rep re: slow 3G data.
There is -- as has been reported by others -- some wide-ranging, nationwide 3G issue, compounded by tower issues in many locations.
As I was told, in my area, there's been a tower issue since mid-February, which complicates at least a partial outage in the eastern half of the country.
Maybe Sprint is making updates/changes to their net but in the process, hosing 3G cover?

Sudden widespread "tower issues"... sounds like a convenient excuse for one of two things.
1) Throttling (there is already another debate thread on this).
2) Their network is maxed out and the influx of smartphones has killed it.
I just find it funny they are so quick to blame the "towers" instead of just being honest. I mean really is having technical issues to your hardware much better than the real reason(s)?

I agree. I think something is going on. Plus why would Sprint feel the need to hide the fact that they are throttling 3G data unless they know they are wrong for doing it? Afterall we are all paying $10 extra per month for premium unlimited data... WHICH WE ARE NOT GETTING!!!

is
207 kbps down
626 kbps up
any good? I don't think so

When one of the tech guys called me on Monday about my slow 3G speeds, I asked him if there was some sort of outage or nationwide 3G issues. He quickly and bluntly said NO.

Ive been having issues since nov and have been constantly complaining to get nothing but tower excuses to your phone is messed up. All bs. I told them either a. You have to many tower issues or b. U take to long to fix them.

1972 download and 495 upload in southern colorado. Before I was lucky to get 150 down and 75 up.
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I did the update last wek week but speeds are the same
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scsapril69 said:
Here's another 3G test read. This one is from Atlanta. 1202 up 689 down. I'm an owner operator in the trucking business, so I test out my data as I travel the country. My 3G data started to suck like many others, for me, it started in January. 19 to 400 kbs up and or down. I bought my EVO the first day it went on sale. Never had a problem with the data speed until I went over 5 gigs of usage back in January, in which that I used around 9 plus gigs. I'm on the unlimited everything plan. This is just my opinion, I believe that Sprint is putting us on the throttle. Getting 2.4 megs up and 800 kbs down on 3G was not uncommon for me to achieve in many locations around the USA, especially in the north east. Not any more.
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Same problem here to man I know for a fact im throttled down same phone plan i hit 5 gigs and down she went.

can anyone upload 60675?! my battery is going down way fast with this PRL

Atrix 4G vs Inspire 4G Data Speed Comparison

So I took my wife to get a new phone yesterday, and got her away from BB and onto Android. She wanted the Inspire 4G, (she liked the extra real estate), while I have the Atrix. Great I thought, another phone to play with!!!
Before I jump into breaking down her new phone, I will let her get used to it, but I did want to do side by side speed tests between the Atrix and Inspire, so I ran several tests this morning after completing an OTA update for the Inspire so it has the current software. Atrix is on 4.1.83, GingerBlur 3.1.
The results I got were interesting. (This is in the Boston, MA area, using Speedtest on the Boston Comcast server).
The Atrix hovers right around 2.5 Mbps to 3 Mbps d/l, and consistently at 1.2 Mbps u/l. Ping averaging around 140ms.
The Inspire runs 3.5 Mbps to 4.5 Mbps d/l and 330 Kbps u/l. Ping averaging around 300ms.
Speeds over my wireless network are identical with 16Mbps d/l and 3 Mbps u/l.
I know the reason for the difference in upload speeds.............the Inspire is obviously still capped at the same rate the Atrix was. What I don't like is the fact that the d/l is hugely different, to the tune of almost double in some instances. The Atrix is also much more erratic in d/l speeds, while the Inspire consistently rises over the duration of the test in a much smoother fashion.
I am going to have fun playing around with both these phones as time goes on, and now I have a mission to prove without a doubt through testing that I have the better phone!
On a side note, I made the AT&T store go quiet for a moment. Most of the employees had black shirts on with a big 4G logo on them. I said loudly that I would like a shirt, but I want the one with "4G..........we lied to you" on it. All went quiet, and I of course did not receive a response. (I had a few beers before we went in to the store).

You can unlock hsupa with a custom Tom or flash radio, they already released the update.
I had an inspire, much better and more reliable data speeds, but its just too big for me.
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Why didn't you wait until next Sunday and opt for the Infuse 4G?

ronj1986 said:
Why didn't you wait until next Sunday and opt for the Infuse 4G?
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She wanted instant gratification...............and we have 30 days to return it anyway!

My wife also has the inspire, she loves the screen and sense, not one to mod. Just updated it, believe it also gave hspa but haven't confirmed.
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Try to not to be impartial. Make a far comparising and let us know.
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OSNPA said:
My wife also has the inspire, she loves the screen and sense, not one to mod. Just updated it, believe it also gave hspa but haven't confirmed.
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The update didn't give HSPA.
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CaelanT said:
The update didn't give HSPA.
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Go on htc website it did. It already had hsdpa now it has hsupa too
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lol. I'm getting 7mbps plus down on my atrix. I don't know what you guys are talking about.

Techcruncher said:
lol. I'm getting 7mbps plus down on my atrix. I don't know what you guys are talking about.
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Can we get a screenshot?

Techcruncher said:
lol. I'm getting 7mbps plus down on my atrix. I don't know what you guys are talking about.
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I dont believe this as well.

Techcruncher said:
lol. I'm getting 7mbps plus down on my atrix. I don't know what you guys are talking about.
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Over wifi perhaps?
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Im a otr truck driver, drive all over the lower 48..
Max speed I have gotten since update is 5.51mbps down and 1.25mbps up. That was in memphis tenn, connecting to the arab ,AL server.
Also got 5.49 down and same 1.25 up in houston.. conecting to houston server ..

shriva said:
Im a otr truck driver, drive all over the lower 48..
Max speed I have gotten since update is 5.51mbps down and 1.25mbps up. That was in memphis tenn, connecting to the arab ,AL server.
Also got 5.49 down and same 1.25 up in houston.. conecting to houston server ..
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Is ATT calling HPSA+ 4G? Is the Atrix capable of true 4G?
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Can I get one of those AT&T, "4G.......We lied you you." T-Shirts?

Techcruncher said:
lol. I'm getting 7mbps plus down on my atrix. I don't know what you guys are talking about.
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BS. Put up some pics

Chubby_Skunk said:
Can I get one of those AT&T, "4G.......We lied you you." T-Shirts?
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If they actually had those, I reckon I could make a killing! Hey, wait a minute.......I'll post my eBay info shortly............wait till I go buy a screen printer and some black T-shirts!

sgtmedeiros said:
Go on htc website it did. It already had hsdpa now it has hsupa too
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From HTC website:
Hotmail, Live, and MSN email auto configuration settings update.
Makes the email set up process much easier and includes the most current settings for each type of email.
Increased potential data speed at which data can travel on the network.
And I can confirm through testing this device side by side with my Atrix the upload speed is stuck at 330kbps exactly the same as the Atrix was before 4.1.83. Note the word "potential" from the HTC site.

I already put this pic in another thread so don't troll me cause of that.
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And yes, while these are rather high, and I do usually get in the 3.5-4.5 range, this is just proof that there areas I would be comfortable calling 4g. (my neighborhood )

You must be in a very fortunate area, I can't even imagine.
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LTE Speeds on AT&T

Check out these speeds on AT&T's LTE. What does Verizon have on that?
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I'm an AT&T customer and I will even say Verizon been had that beat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5AGEj7ftK4&feature=related

Good god that 4G LTE logo is ugly.
edit:for the record, I don't like verizon's either.

Come on. You mean to tell me that the Verizon "Data Card" bownloading at 50Mbps beats a phone downloading at 40Mbps. Look at the upload. Nowhere even close. NYC has DAS units all over. I'm not on NYC and you can't argue the upload. I can find a spot to show 50 if you want but I just did a random test and got these results. Just thought I'd share. Again. This is on a phone. Not a dedicated data card.
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I'm an AT&T customer and I will even say Verizon been had that beat.
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Regardless of which is better or not, I'm glad at&t is finally rolling out LTE.
I don't expect you to be able to answer these questions, but is the device you're using coming out before the end of the year and do you know if at&t plans to offer unlimited LTE data for a short period like verizon did?

Question - why does anyone give a crap? What good is that 40 Mbps doing you. Nothing on the phone will ever make use of that. Even if you are tethering to a computer it isn't nearly as useful as those speeds would be on a home broadband connection due to the data caps. At 40 Mbps you would go through a full month's 4 GB tethering package data allotment in about 13 minutes! What a joke.

considering this is on a fairly loaded network that is running in well over 5 cities I'd say its pretty good :-D

Question - HOW DID YOU GET AN LTE PHONE ON AT&T?
Also, nice speeds, obviously Verizon's LTE is going to get much better speeds when they've had time to get enough backhaul to all the LTE towers, just give AT&T some time, just like the time Verizon has had.

wow
amazing speeds you get there, I don't even get close

Great question. We all would like to know that one
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Question - HOW DID YOU GET AN LTE PHONE ON AT&T?
Also, nice speeds, obviously Verizon's LTE is going to get much better speeds when they've had time to get enough backhaul to all the LTE towers, just give AT&T some time, just like the time Verizon has had.
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I can't tell you how I got the phone but rest assured they are coming. Once the backhaul gets updated across the board everyone will see better speeds even with the 4G (HSPA+) devices. I'm not 100% sure how the data plans are going to work but I'm sure they will be capped higher than 2Gb. They will have to be capped somewhere or else everyone will use bandwidth all the time taking it away from other users.
That's all I know for now.
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I can't tell you how I got the phone but rest assured they are coming. Once the backhaul gets updated across the board everyone will see better speeds even with the 4G (HSPA+) devices. I'm not 100% sure how the data plans are going to work but I'm sure they will be capped higher than 2Gb. They will have to be capped somewhere or else everyone will use bandwidth all the time taking it away from other users.
That's all I know for now.
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Alright, that's fine that you can't tell us, don't mind.
But just tell me, are we going to see LTE phones anytime soon, and if AT&T wants to speed up HSPA+ devices, they need to turn on 64QAM.
^relay that one to them for me.

VERY impressive but like verizon and sprint 4g once there's a lot of people on it the speeds drop.
But thing is all I see is a much faster way to get to the 2gb cap.
Verizon 4g is 2gb right?

donsh00tmesanta said:
VERY impressive but like verizon and sprint 4g once there's a lot of people on it the speeds drop.
But thing is all I see is a much faster way to get to the 2gb cap.
Verizon 4g is 2gb right?
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Lowest for Verizon is 2GB.
But the guy said they would raise the caps... I have unlimited data, so I hope I get that on LTE also...

Need I say more Mr Verizon sees 50 Mbps?
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Check out these speeds on AT&T's LTE. What does Verizon have on that?
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Holy crap, is that for real?
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donsh00tmesanta said:
VERY impressive but like verizon and sprint 4g once there's a lot of people on it the speeds drop.
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Agreed.
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I'm not saying that you will see a drop in speeds once everyone jumps on the bandwagon but what would you ever need speeds like that for anyway? Streaming movies? Hah. Maybe if your downloading one and don't want to wait or don't have wifi at home. Anyway, there are just a lot of new and exciting things happening with the AT&T network and the difference will or should already be seen by most of you now or in the near future.
Not only the network but the devices are getting better and better IMO (really unbiassed) I think AT&T has the better devices hands down.
For all those who asked. I can not say how I have an LTE device but they are sure to impress everyone once released.
Till next time.
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nate2569 said:
I'm not saying that you will see a drop in speeds once everyone jumps on the bandwagon but what would you ever need speeds like that for anyway? Streaming movies? Hah. Maybe if your downloading one and don't want to wait or don't have wifi at home. Anyway, there are just a lot of new and exciting things happening with the AT&T network and the difference will or should already be seen by most of you now or in the near future.
Not only the network but the devices are getting better and better IMO (really unbiassed) I think AT&T has the better devices hands down.
For all those who asked. I can not say how I have an LTE device but they are sure to impress everyone once released.
Till next time.
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Of course speeds will go down with traffic, we just don't know how much.
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SGH-i727 Galaxy Nexus II LTE? Wish the At&t/Tmo merger goes through and we get the Galaxy Nexus LTE version. I have two upgrades and want something new for Christmas. LOL.

Throtting

So there isn't really any definitive answer, so i'm making topic on it: DOES SPRINT THROTTLE?
I know they say they don't throttle, but myself and a number of friends have noticed a big drop in data speed the more we use. So what does everyone else think?
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No, they don't throttle.
myself and a number of friends have noticed a big drop in data speed the more we use.
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HAHA welcome to the "Now Network". Sprint=dial-up speeds. Myself, or my 3 friends on Sprint, haven't gotten above 100kbps since last October. It happens everywhere I travel too. Well, except between 2am and 4am, then it works perfectly fine, when everyone else is asleep.

It seems to me like they do during the day. My 3g is not near as fast as it used to be during the day. It wasnt a gradual decrease. More like a sudden. While my connection at my house still pulls 1.0-1.3mbps at my house during the day, I used to get 2+mbps there during the day. Now I don't get that speed til 1-5am. You're probably thinking "wtf are you *****ing about?!" Cuz it is very fast at my house. ****ty part is that everywhere else its nowhere near 1.0mbps. More like 0.2-0.4. And I'm NEVER home. That's the problem. Oh well. Its either live with it or go pay $40-50 more to get raped by verizon.
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Mine used to be around 3Mb/s on 3g, that was when I first got my contract. It seems the more I tethered and used more and more data the slower it got. yestursay I got .25 mb/s! Flashed radios this morning and i'm up to 1.
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It seems to me like they do during the day.
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No, they don't throttle during the day, they dont throttle at all. The reason your speeds are crappy during the day is because there are too many people using it during the day, and each tower's crappy T1 line backhaul can't handle more than a few MB/s total for everyone connected to it.

Darn you other sprint users i'm my area, turn your 3g off!
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One thing that we all have to remember is that sprint subcontracts its network to other providers (virgin, republic, boost...) And all their customers uses our network as well.
Think about it, Verizon really doesn't lend their network, that's why you pay higher prices, because you have their full resource.
We pay lower prices but we have to share...
Just a thought...
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megabiteg said:
One thing that we all have to remember is that sprint subcontracts its network to other providers (virgin, republic, boost...) And all their customers uses our network as well.
Think about it, Verizon really doesn't lend their network, that's why you pay higher prices, because you have their full resource.
We pay lower prices but we have to share...
Just a thought...
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Please don't talk about things you know nothing of. Verizon has MVNOs just as Sprint does.

Deathsnuggle said:
DOES SPRINT THROTTLE?
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No it is just naturally slow. I guess you could say it comes "pre-throttled"
KJ

Unfortunately I did not take screen shotts to back this up, so fwiw.....
I have been throttled while on 4g. It was not a signal issue, peak use/time thing, straight up throttled. Long story short- My desktop got fried several days back. Replaced it, had to start from scratch software wise.
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That screen shot is for Nov.3 - 11th. Right towards the end of a 5.2gig d/l (cs5.5 master collection) My 4g speeds here @ home avg 17-2300kbs on a bad day. While going through pdanet I realize 3-500kbs @ the desktop. @ about 5030 MB my d/l speeds sank to 39 kbs have been stuck there since. Called sprint they said my data usage is "suspect" and will be monitored untill my next billing cycle.
So keep it under 9 gigs a day kids.. they WILL throttle you.
I pay for the hotspots btw.
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jamieg71 said:
Unfortunately I did not take screen shotts to back this up, so fwiw.....
I have been throttled while on 4g. It was not a signal issue, peak use/time thing, straight up throttled. Long story short- My desktop got fried several days back. Replaced it, had to start from scratch software wise.
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That screen shot is for Nov.3 - 11th. Right towards the end of a 5.2gig d/l (cs5.5 master collection) My 4g speeds here @ home avg 17-2300kbs on a bad day. While going through pdanet I realize 3-500kbs @ the desktop. @ about 5030 MB my d/l speeds sank to 39 kbs have been stuck there since. Called sprint they said my data usage is "suspect" and will be monitored untill my next billing cycle.
So keep it under 9 gigs a day kids.. they WILL throttle you.
I pay for the hotspots btw.
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Paid hotspots are now limited to 5gb data per month did ya not get the notice? After 5gb hotspot ur either throttled or paying per mb FYI
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I live in the middle of nowhere I share a Sprint tower with maybe 20 houses that are within its range I get anywhere from 1 - 3 mbps dl and close to 1 mbps up on 3g. I use an assload of data anywhere from 15 - 50 gb a month on my line alone. We have 5 lines and a data card between us we use the 5 gb of the data card as the only other option for internet is dial up or satellite and the phones we have hit about 200gb of data between the 5 phones and Sprint has never said **** about it. Although we have been on Sprint since god knows when I've been on Sprint for 13 yrs but my dad was on this account for 5 or 6 yrs b4 that. I remember having sprints old red logo on my phones and going thru the Nextel merger. Hell I gotta box with some really old Sprint phones going back to a startac my first ever Sprint phone was one of those cool old Nokias u could swap the face plate on lol
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Deathsnuggle said:
So there isn't really any definitive answer, so i'm making topic on it: DOES SPRINT THROTTLE?
I know they say they don't throttle, but myself and a number of friends have noticed a big drop in data speed the more we use. So what does everyone else think?
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The short answer is, "It depends."
I am well versed in the 4G arena, not so much 3g/EVDO.
When you discuss Sprint's 4G network, you are really discussing the re-branding and re-selling of Clearwire's Wimax network. Any discussion of Clearwire's Wimax must include an understanding of N.I.M.S., which stands for, Network Integrity Management System. That's code for THROTTLING!!
In a nutshell, Clear directly, and through its wholesale distributors, continues to sell more bandwidth than it has available to deliver. During periods of low demand, all is well. During times of high demand, N.I.M.S. automatically kicks in. A quick Google search of Clearwire N.I.M.S. should provide the triggers and effects.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-overextending-coverage-to-lure-customers.ars
http://www.geekwire.com/2011/clearwire-boosts-wholesale-subscriber-count-headwinds-mount
To parse Sprint's claim that they do not throttle is easy. They don't; Clear does it for them.

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The short answer is, "It depends."
I am well versed in the 4G arena, not so much 3g/EVDO.
When you discuss Sprint's 4G network, you are really discussing the re-branding and re-selling of Clearwire's Wimax network. Any discussion of Clearwire's Wimax must include an understanding of N.I.M.S., which stands for, Network Integrity Management System. That's code for THROTTLING!!
In a nutshell, Clear directly, and through its wholesale distributors, continues to sell more bandwidth than it has available to deliver. During periods of low demand, all is well. During times of high demand, N.I.M.S. automatically kicks in. A quick Google search of Clearwire N.I.M.S. should provide the triggers and effects.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-overextending-coverage-to-lure-customers.ars
http://www.geekwire.com/2011/clearwire-boosts-wholesale-subscriber-count-headwinds-mount
To parse Sprint's claim that they do not throttle is easy. They don't; Clear does it for them.
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Thanks for the explanation. Makes sense now, how I get throttled living in a city of 600k, but someone out in a rural area remains untouched. It's all good tho, just discovered a new open wifi here in the neighborhood... lol
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I live in the middle of nowhere I share a Sprint tower with maybe 20 houses that are within its range I get anywhere from 1 - 3 mbps dl and close to 1 mbps up on 3g. I use an assload of data anywhere from 15 - 50 gb a month on my line alone. We have 5 lines and a data card between us we use the 5 gb of the data card as the only other option for internet is dial up or satellite and the phones we have hit about 200gb of data between the 5 phones and Sprint has never said **** about it. Although we have been on Sprint since god knows when I've been on Sprint for 13 yrs but my dad was on this account for 5 or 6 yrs b4 that. I remember having sprints old red logo on my phones and going thru the Nextel merger. Hell I gotta box with some really old Sprint phones going back to a startac my first ever Sprint phone was one of those cool old Nokias u could swap the face plate on lol
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Ha! I had one of those Nokias, but my first real cell phone was an Oki 910. Before that it was a Motorola bag phone, still have that old beast in storage some where.. Just bought some new boots, the box would fit in the "bag" lol
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