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Much like how the froyo roms right now do not have the drivers for the GPS, when GB is released and ported to our phones, it's going to be broken. Correct?
Basically, almost all of the drivers are going to be broken unless there is a leak of an actual working rom for a Galaxy S phone of some kind.
I understand that, and that is unfortunate. How does the G1 still receive roms like 2.1 and 2.2 Cyanogen if HTC never officially released those updates to the phone?
I've stopped following the G1 development since I bricked it, but I'd assume they just take other similar drivers from other phones and make it work with the G1. That is the only way I can think of them being able to do it, unless they make it from scratch which I doubt.
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can i ask what happened to G1? i'm really new to the android community that's why i don't know anything about what happened to that phone.
There are still some chance galaxy S will get offical Gingerbread OTA but if we don't im sure the at lease on of the galaxy line will have it, maybe galaxy S2 or something, we may able to port it to work with vibrant, just like G1 story.
Now I only care about foyo.
richiehd said:
I understand that, and that is unfortunate. How does the G1 still receive roms like 2.1 and 2.2 Cyanogen if HTC never officially released those updates to the phone?
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Because the community has had a year and a half of leaks, very similar hardware on other htc devices, as well as ample time to reengineer a few things from scratch. Time is an important factor.
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http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/11/05/android-2-3-gingerbread-release-november-11/
I bought the Epic to be ahead of the trend... We dont even have 2.2 yet, but 2.3 is coming out.. Who knows when that will be released for the Epic!
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I upgrade phones every 6 months... so that doesnt work for me...
Plus, by that time, it will be Android 3.0 Chocolate Chip.
EvanWasHere said:
I upgrade phones every 6 months... so that doesnt work for me...
Plus, by that time, it will be Android 3.0 Chocolate Chip.
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you mean honeycomb..lol..or icecream
anyways..google said that in the future there will be only 1 major release per year.
EvanWasHere said:
I upgrade phones every 6 months... so that doesnt work for me...
Plus, by that time, it will be Android 3.0 Chocolate Chip.
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6 month you won't get much major progress...from the rumors all the ual cores will be coming next summer anyways..
Either way chances are you won't see Gignerbread on a phone for at least 3 month or so unless its a development phone.
that's some ****ty ass news...
I'm afraid samsung will drop support on these phones by then.
If the Nexus Two/S becomes available on Sprint (and with 4G), I'll happily dump the Epic to avoid this constant unnecessary hassle. The manufacturers and carriers are wrong, at least when it comes to me - I know what I want on a phone more than they do.
I've dealt with it on HTC and now Samsung, and I won't do it again.
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that's some ****ty ass news...
I'm afraid samsung will drop support on these phones by then.
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No, that is some awesome inspiring news. The faster Gingerbread is released, the faster the Galaxy Tab gets gingerbread. The faster Galaxy Tab and other phones receive gingerbread, the faster it will be ported to our phone regardless of whether Samsung has official plans to port it or not.
vansmack said:
If the Nexus Two/S becomes available on Sprint (and with 4G), I'll happily dump the Epic to avoid this constant unnecessary hassle. The manufacturers and carriers are wrong, at least when it comes to me - I know what I want on a phone more than they do.
I've dealt with it on HTC and now Samsung, and I won't do it again.
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You probably wont need to. The drivers for the Nexus S will probably work with our hardware and that should make porting gingerbread to the other galaxy S phones a lot easier. With a little luck we might have a working gingerbread before some of the HTC phones.
People are sooo negative about continued samsung support. If you are really APART of this community you have NOTHING to WORRY about. So unless you plan on staying stock quit complaining about froyo and gingerbread.
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People are sooo negative about continued samsung support. If you are really APART of this community you have NOTHING to WORRY about. So unless you plan on staying stock quit complaining about froyo and gingerbread.
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iono if i got your statement right,,, but i'd rather have a stock build of android on my epic than one thats been made over by samsung or any company for that matter. i understand that android is open and therefore if a company wants to skin or whatever with it then that up to them. it would be nice if there was an option to where we could go the a companies site ie. samsung, htc, sony; and have an option to download a vanilla build of the current os that is out. and it dosent even have to be before they release their version of it. for example with froyo 2.2 ,,, once they start to push it out to us in the states, it would be cool if we could go to sammy's site and download an alternative vanilla build. of coarse companies might say that it will take away from the phone as far as features that they built into it or want to implement. but if im paying for a device that is 100% mine, i would atleast like to have some options with it sans root and flash.
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Its not Gingerbread, more like the source....
Gingerbread being released on the The Nexus S is great news since the Nexus S is basically just another Galaxy S minus TW. Porting Gingerbread to the Galaxy S should be very easy...
LOL
With all these tasty sounding android os names the last os update will be called Fat bastard lol. or weight watchers.
walord said:
Gingerbread being released on the The Nexus S is great news since the Nexus S is basically just another Galaxy S minus TW. Porting Gingerbread to the Galaxy S should be very easy...
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Wait, so for the 99 percent of us that doesn't even have Froyo yet you are inspired by Gingerbread being released? May I please borrow your rose glasses???
2.3 is coming soon, Nexus 2 will be the first phone to get it and it's not expected to come out for another month. They site says it's 2.3 sdk, and 2.2 sdk came out a month and a half before nexus one got the official update
http://phandroid.com/2011/01/22/rum...axy-tab-to-get-gingerbread-beginning-of-q211/
It's a rumor I'd like to believe. The overseas Galaxy S has had 2.2 for a while now, and it's believable that after so many months, they might get 2.3. This works great for us because...
1- we might get it
2- if we don't, someone could use the i9000 code to make a copy for the Vibrant.
With this whole froyo mess, I see Samsung getting us 2.3 eventually just to appease us and bring the best out of our hardware (optimization for Hummingbird). If they can pull 2.3 for us sometime by the end of Q2/start of Q3- It would redeem them for the froyo debacle.
Honeycomb/Ice Cream, whichever, I just don't see us getting officially.
Edit: nm
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SamFirmwares, the originator of this rumor, is a site that has gotten us a lot of Froyo leaked roms. I don't think they would say this unless they know theres a GB rom out there that they are trying to get their hands on.
After flashing from stock 2.1 to Axura 2.2.7.1 I am enjoying a 2.2 ROM. I cannot wait until 2.3 gets out and the devs here play with it. The updates in it look promising, and the power management should definitely push the stellar battery life from these awesome ROMs.
Later than i9000
If history is any indication, we'll get Gingerbread when Honey Comb has been out for at least 3 weeks and thousands of hate tweets have been made.
I wouldn't hold my breath on it.
At this point, I'm just waiting for a new good phone to be released on t-mobile so I can drop my vibrant asap! my frustration has less to do with samsung updates and more to do with the failing GPS (even the latest version of Nero does nothing to alleviate my issues), lack of LED notification, and cheap plastic-feeling build quality
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I wouldn't hold my breath on it.
At this point, I'm just waiting for a new good phone to be released on t-mobile so I can drop my vibrant asap! my frustration has less to do with samsung updates and more to do with the failing GPS (even the latest version of Nero does nothing to alleviate my issues), lack of LED notification, and cheap plastic-feeling build quality
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Why don't you update to the Official KA6? I did and mine is running smooth like silk panties without even a lagfix. I am even getting gps fix inside my house with no tweaking done. Just a thought
Damonkashu said:
I wouldn't hold my breath on it.
At this point, I'm just waiting for a new good phone to be released on t-mobile so I can drop my vibrant asap! my frustration has less to do with samsung updates and more to do with the failing GPS (even the latest version of Nero does nothing to alleviate my issues), lack of LED notification, and cheap plastic-feeling build quality
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The LG optimus 2X is a good choice for a new phone.
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QS 755 on stock official Froyo. 2.1 OCLF2.0 QS 2000+....... hmmm?
That would.be quite incredible since the Vibrant 4G is set to launch next month with Froyo. Their new flagship phone launches with Froyo and then the older, nearly identical version gets Gingerbread? I don't see it. T-Mo has every incentive to keep the original Vibrant a step behind so they can sell more new phones.
Let's start now with a class action lawsuit and twitter campaign for honeycomb
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Are you on drugs?
I doubt we will ever see Android 2.3 on the original Vibrant. 1 year is an eternity in the world of Android smart-phones. There is so much competition and the pace is so fast that manufacturers will opt to put their best & brightest efforts into optimizing code for upcoming devices.
For example, the Motorola Atrix probably has a lot of manufacturers trying to figure out how they can make their devices that come after it stand out.
The only thing the Vibrant has going for it is that it shares most of its innards with 2 other phones.
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http://phandroid.com/2011/01/22/rum...axy-tab-to-get-gingerbread-beginning-of-q211/
It's a rumor I'd like to believe. The overseas Galaxy S has had 2.2 for a while now, and it's believable that after so many months, they might get 2.3. This works great for us because...
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To the person who posted scores, Quadrant sucks, no use to test for real life performance. And the vibrant is not really that cheap feeling, would you rather have a few scratches on the backplate or a dent that cannot be replaced?
But sure, anything above 2.2 will probably be mostly theme overhauls for android, maybe a few optimizations for the hummingbird in 2.3 but nothing above that most likely.
for me froyo is the end of the vibrant. my only hope is the devs here who are working on it.
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The way I see it is that this phone is now obsolete. We got one update, so I guess we should consider ourselves lucky. Live and learn, no more RFS phones for me.
stop all this bullcrap.
Samfirmwares is talking about the I9000 not vibrant.
http://phandroid.com/2011/01/22/rum...axy-tab-to-get-gingerbread-beginning-of-q211/
read that, then read some of the comments.
"Everyone, this is possible. Keep in mind, they could be talking about Galaxy S, not the American Variants, or they could be. Two possible scenario:
One: They are talking about the European Galaxy S(has had 2.2 for a while, just got 2.2.1)
Two: It could mean 2.3 could finally be built and ready for carriers to add their bloat and send off as OTA(or Kies*shivers*)Remember, Froyo for the Galaxy S in the states has been ready for months now, it has been the carriers, not Samsung."
I still think the US Galaxy S phones will get at least the update to Gingerbread, at least sometime in the first half of the year. I think that'll be the last update the phones get though.
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With this whole froyo mess, I see Samsung getting us 2.3 eventually just to appease us and bring the best out of our hardware (optimization for Hummingbird). If they can pull 2.3 for us sometime by the end of Q2/start of Q3- It would redeem them for the froyo debacle.
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It's ridiculous that I should be appeased by a 2.3 release 3-6 months after it's been released by Google. I want a new release on the same day that Google releases a new version and I want it from Google. Manufacturers can tweak and release it whenever they want to. At this point, I don't care. But Google needs to fix this. Make every manufacturer provide all the device drivers for all phones sold in the past 2 years available for every release and we should be able to get the latest Google experience for our phones.
The fact that 2.3 is not yet available for Nexus One shows that Google needs to spend some time making this their top priority.
I think a long as the carriers push two year contracts they should support the phone that long.
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Received an OTA notice last night and updated, but didn't actually use my Tab again until today. Imagine my surprise when everything looked a little bit "different"!
My Tab is typically part of the early soak tests, being a pre-release unit. Here are the build details:
db.tt/Pr3PlYLL
Nice! Unfortunately, this doesn't help us wifi-only owners, does it...
jakesteed said:
Received an OTA notice last night and updated, but didn't actually use my Tab again until today. Imagine my surprise when everything looked a little bit "different"!
My Tab is typically part of the early soak tests, being a pre-release unit. Here are the build details:
db.tt/Pr3PlYLL
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Could you give us somehow access to it? The tar file or a nandroid backup? Would like ti see if I can port this to a 3G version.
BeeGee_Tokyo said:
Could you give us somehow access to it? The tar file or a nandroid backup? Would like ti see if I can port this to a 3G version.
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That would be cool. I used you're work on the Vega and been waiting for something to show up for the tab.
Nice. I shipped my tab to Verizon on Monday (Nov. 7) to get replaced or fixed (newton ring issue). Hopefully I get one back with the updates.
What do you think of 3.2 with TouchWiz on the 4G tab? I'm using jflowers ROM which has been pretty good to me. I do prefer vanilla Android, even though TouchWiz on the tab seems nice.
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What do you think of 3.2 with TouchWiz on the 4G tab? I'm using jflowers ROM which has been pretty good to me. I do prefer vanilla Android, even though TouchWiz on the tab seems nice.
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Same ROM here. If this update goes live I may just have to restore back to stock to be able to get the update and check it out.
I would love this update. And why no love for this tab? I mean i seriously feel like im being punished for buying the verizon version. Damn near every other tablet including eveything else samsung makes has at least 3.2. And they've had it since August. Its almost december!!! Sorry for the vent
mmadchild said:
I would love this update. And why no love for this tab? I mean i seriously feel like im being punished for buying the verizon version. Damn near every other tablet including eveything else samsung makes has at least 3.2. And they've had it since August. Its almost december!!! Sorry for the vent
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I agree with you about being punished...I love this tab, but it seems we're on the "pay no mind list"...
Same here, I'm amazed how few of us are on the forums. This model must not have sold very much. Simply amazes me because I can't even imagine myself with a wifi-only tablet anymore.
I held out on an iPad because of AT&T and by the time the iPad2 came out I had a rooted Nook Color running CM7 so I patiently waited for an LTE capable android tablet (having seen the light). When the Verizon GT 10.1 dropped I jumped and am so glad I did.
I'm still salty that the design is different. There's just a few cases available for our model all of which basically blow . . .
Now I'm counting the days before ICS but wonder if Samsung or the CM team will come up with something for the LTE tabs at the same time as the wifi versions. On the plus side Pershoot is spreading the love across the entire platform with his kernel updates so that's great, there's hope!
Has anyone else with a 4G LTE tab gotten this update? I have not... Still on 3.1.
Nope, nothing here
Google is releasing the SDK out to developers today for JellyBean. That is good news for the Dev Community.
I'm nervous about the new graphics and rendering system upgrades.
This may affect our portability with certain closed source drivers.
I'm having second thoughts about this phone. If I want to go through the slow upgrades again. GS2 doesn't have official ICS yet and JB is out.
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GS2 doesn't have official ICS yet and JB is out.
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Yes it does, it got its official release a few weeks ago
I think he means for sprint. We still don't have an official update on sprint.
I am nervous and freaking out about JB since we don't have it yet (so what if it hasn't rolled out yet).
Knowing Samsung it will be like 12 years before it ever comes out and worse than that Sprint will still be charging us $10 a month for premium data even after they roll out LTE.
I'm freaking out over this"
(kidding)
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Google is releasing the SDK out to developers today for JellyBean. That is good news for the Dev Community.
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Here is a Android 4.1 Jelly Bean SDK Image System Dump
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736529
EDIT: and 4.1is available thru SDK manager for download
If tmobile does officially release Jellybean don't expect for it to show up soon. it took 7 months!!!! for ICS to be rolled out on the GS2.
And just as soon as I get a phone with ICS, its not obsolete. Awesome... maybe JB will hit the SGS3 by next summer.
Well lets just hope that the Devs will be able to make some magic happen for our devices using the new "Project Butter" they are implementing in JB.
Idk I'm reconsidering maybe returning and waiting for the next nexus. Google will roll out with the update in mid July and the gnex will receive it via OTA. It just sucks how carriers take such a long time to make sure their bloat works. At&t and Tmobile just barely had ICS roll out on GS2 and I don't think sprint has even been upgraded officially yet.
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Well lets just hope that the Devs will be able to make some magic happen for our devices using the new "Project Butter" they are implementing in JB.
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This is what i was excited about..!
Where's my Jelly Bean!?!
MadFlava said:
And just as soon as I get a phone with ICS, its not obsolete. Awesome... maybe JB will hit the SGS3 by next summer.
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Obsolete because it doesn't have JB? ha ha! I knew this was coming.
I almost started a "I'm pissed I don't have JB" thread when I read about it last night......ROFL!
(I'm not mocking you MadFlava specifically)....no disrespect intended. I just think it's funny. Seems like this happens with each release and every phone I've had.
Debating wether to port it or not :|
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Did anyone took a note of the PDK(platform development kit) for device manufacturers? It is supped to speed up os upgraded by oems. Hoping it will improve the fragmentation situation.
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Idk I'm reconsidering maybe returning and waiting for the next nexus. Google will roll out with the update in mid July and the gnex will receive it via OTA. It just sucks how carriers take such a long time to make sure their bloat works. At&t and Tmobile just barely had ICS roll out on GS2 and I don't think sprint has even been upgraded officially yet.
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There is no new phone that Google is revealing. Jellybean will only be on the nexus s, galaxy nexus and nexus 7 tablet. I have high hopes that developers will be able to get a working CM version of jellybean on this sgs3
It's almost certain that their will be custom roms of the latest Android OS long before CDMA Nexus' get it. Not to mention the new Nexus will have underwhelming specs. I say hold on to your S3.
Looking forward to a CyanogenMod 9.1 (or would that be 10?)
Considering how new this phone is and the inevitable huge developer support once everyone gets their phones I'm not too worried about not having this for long.
Besides... I am perfectly happy with ICS. I haven't found a need or an issue that would make me irritated by not having something in JB. That's technology and software for you. There is always something right around the corner that is better.
Be happy with what you have, always seeking the newest greatest thing will drive you crazy and/or broke.
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There is no new phone that Google is revealing. Jellybean will only be on the nexus s, galaxy nexus and nexus 7 tablet. I have high hopes that developers will be able to get a working CM version of jellybean jellybean this sgs3
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Yeah i know their is no new phone. I was meant as just holding out till a new nexus rolls out maybe in Nov. Don't get me wrong the GS3 is a beast device! and i am confident our devs will port jellybean way before.
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Considering how new this phone is and the inevitable huge developer support once everyone gets their phones I'm not too worried about not having this for long.
Besides... I am perfectly happy with ICS. I haven't found a need or an issue that would make me irritated by not having something in JB. That's technology and software for you. There is always something right around the corner that is better.
Be happy with what you have, always seeking the newest greatest thing will drive you crazy and/or broke.
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So very true
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