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Guys... please don't kill me!
I'm no good at news posts, and understand that this is probably fiction, but was more looking for confirmation or a better source if someone knows of one.
Here you go: http://www.blog.best-mobile-contrac...ash-and-froyo-arrives-for-i9000-galaxy-s.html
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As it so turns out, Samsung i9000 Galaxy S smart phone owners need to only wait “shortly” until the Froyo update gets released for the handset.While a specific date has yet to be delivered, earliest estimates place the update for a launch due by next week –or hopefully, earlier.
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So, we could have Froyo before the end of July?
crabby
While it would be nice to get it so early, I wouldn't hold me breath.
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Guys... please don't kill me!
I'm no good at news posts, and understand that this is probably fiction, but was more looking for confirmation or a better source if someone knows of one.
Here you go: http://www.blog.best-mobile-contrac...ash-and-froyo-arrives-for-i9000-galaxy-s.html
THe link states
So, we could have Froyo before the end of July?
crabby
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Yeah. I wouldn't count on it brah.
Unlocked users also
Hello Guys,
I just ordered this phone unlocked. Since this is my first Samsung phone (I had an iPhone 3G) I am wondering if AT&T will push the update to me and since my phone was shipped from Hong Kong I would also like to know whether there is a download link from Samsung's site for patches and firmwares (official).
Side question; For those using an unlocked Galaxy S in the US, is there any 3G (data) issue you are noticing? how is performance and availability of 3G with 1900Mhz spectrum?
If your carrier doesnt push the update to you, you should be able to get it through Samsung Kies once its been released.
Well we can only hope for this to be real. Sure would be nice
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If Froyo for the SGS will pop up during the next 10 days as this article says it might, i'll eat my pants and post pics.
It's pretty impossible, considering samsung past with updates.
That's there flagship handset, nothing stop them to change the history.
Ummm.... Yes there is something that will stop them... It's called "Paperwork".
We'll see, would be nice tho, especially when it comes with some new drivers/updates to iron out the little bugs
Im thinking in this, we shouldn't forget about Samsungs tablet device, which seems like a big Samsung Galaxy S. The rumour there is that is going to come with FroYo 2.2 right from the off.
Makes sense to converge the software, so there is a very real possibility Samsung have been working on a FroYo release for a while.
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We'll see, would be nice tho, especially when it comes with some new drivers/updates to iron out the little bugs
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As well as the hoofing great big ones
While they are at it, why not
While I doubt we will see Froyo in the next week or two it looks like they may have had some models at the Samsung launch even running Froyo. I noticed in Phonearena's preview of the Samsung Vibrant they tilted the phone to the right and it went into landscape. Unless something has changed I thought this was only possible with Froyo so maybe they are closer to releasing it then we think. I can't post a link to the video because I am new here but you can catch the rotation to the right at the 19 second mark.
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While I doubt we will see Froyo in the next week or two it looks like they may have had some models at the Samsung launch even running Froyo. I noticed in Phonearena's preview of the Samsung Vibrant they tilted the phone to the right and it went into landscape. Unless something has changed I thought this was only possible with Froyo so maybe they are closer to releasing it then we think. I can't post a link to the video because I am new here but you can catch the rotation to the right at the 19 second mark.
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Unfortunately you thought wrong... it is already possible, and more small reason for this phone's awesomeness
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Unfortunately you thought wrong... it is already possible, and more small reason for this phone's awesomeness
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I didn't realize this was possible on Android 2.1 or is it just something Samsung added to the Galaxy S? If so I have to agree thats a pretty cool addon!
As much as I really wish it was true, looking at the track records, it is not very promising.
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I didn't realize this was possible on Android 2.1 or is it just something Samsung added to the Galaxy S? If so I have to agree thats a pretty cool addon!
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It is galaxy so specific.
Phone's great... But Froyo would be greater!
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You people are wanting Froyo before most of us in the US can even buy the phone. I'm envious.
There was a demo video where the reporter was told that the demo he was holding was 2.2 but that it was not going to ship with it. This was the ATT Captivate version and I saw the article on one of the big tech blogs, but I can't remember which one. Anyone??? I remember reading the info and thinking why on earth do they have 2.2 on a demo device only.
The Xoom (USA Wifi version) users are having their official 3.2 updates OTA now!
http://tablets-planet.com/2011/07/1...arts-to-arrive-for-some-wi-fi-motorola-xooms/
Where is ours?
I dont even have the 3.1 update for my 10.1v.
Haha
You do realize this is Samsung we are talking about?
It usually takes months if not years for them to generally fix major bugs on their devices. Same for pushing firmware updates...
Sad but this is how it is.
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You do realize this is Samsung we are talking about?
It usually takes months if not years for them to generally fix major bugs on their devices. Same for pushing firmware updates...
Sad but this is how it is.
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You also realize that samsung has really stepped up their game with both quality and service?
No, we may not see 3.2 officially from samsung this month, but i bet we see a leak of it before the end of august.
Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out
Wait for Touchwiz before Android 3.2
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You also realize that samsung has really stepped up their game with both quality and service?
No, we may not see 3.2 officially from samsung this month, but i bet we see a leak of it before the end of august.
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Samsung is doing amazing job in hardware development. They really do but for software support the company simply s*cks.
For example Galaxy S is almost a year and a half old. This device sold more than 10 million units worldwide is one of the most successful smartphone ever and believe it or not it's still waiting to get Gingerbread.
And this is only one example. Almost every Samsung Android phone out there is suffering the same issue. Actually all with the exceptions of Nexus S and Nexus S 4G and that because Google itself is handling the software and pushing updates on those devices.
To make things worst Samsung will push the TouchWiz UI very soon. Which means now they have to make sure Touch UI is compatible with the latest Android version which take even more time. They always take their time to ensure compatibility with their stupid TouchWiz and they ALWAYS end up with extremely buggy results.
As for an early leak, what is the point of getting a beta software to an already buggy device?
If for any reason you believe that Galaxy Tab 10.1 will be an exception for Samsung, please feel free to share. I really like to know it.
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Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out
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That's pretty much the case.
Now that TW is coming. No way we'll see 3.2 anytime soon. Not a chance with Samsungs history.
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Samsung is doing amazing job in hardware development. They really do but for software support the company simply s*cks.
For example Galaxy S is almost a year and a half old. This device sold more than 10 million units worldwide is one of the most successful smartphone ever and believe it or not it's still waiting to get Gingerbread.
And this is only one example. Almost every Samsung Android phone out there is suffering the same issue. Actually all with the exceptions of Nexus S and Nexus S 4G and that because Google itself is handling the software and pushing updates on those devices.
To make things worst Samsung will push the TouchWiz UI very soon. Which means now they have to make sure Touch UI is compatible with the latest Android version which take even more time. They always take their time to ensure compatibility with their stupid TouchWiz and they ALWAYS end up with extremely buggy results.
As for an early leak, what is the point of getting a beta software to an already buggy device?
If for any reason you believe that Galaxy Tab 10.1 will be an exception for Samsung, please feel free to share. I really like to know it.
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I would disagree somewhat. The Galaxy S has been upgraded to Gingerbread on European versions of the phone. While updates for phones in the past have been lagging I would view that Samsung has taken a new approach as of late. The majority of the phones released around the same time period as the Galaxy S line have not received the Gingerbread update either. I would respond to you and ask for another cell phone manufacturer who is doing it better? Also besides zoom to fit (which spare parts will fix) there's not much benefit of 3.2 for us. The update adds zoom to fit, finally enables SD cards on the Xoom, and is more optimized to fit on 7" tablets i.e. 7-inch Huawei MediaPad.
As for Touchwiz I felt V3 was in need of much work (it does appear to be revamped a tad and smoother on the latest Fascinate GB leak) however V4 on the SGII has me sold on it being the default launcher on my phone. It is butter smooth and I love how it is laid out. If you were to poll the majority of Android users on XDA I would wager over 75% are unhappy with their stock manufacturer's launcher. I am looking forward to what Samsung will bring to the table.
I myself believe that Honeycomb is still very "beta-ish" in its current state. It was rushed and is extremely buggy. I think releasing the source code would help immensely as devs could iron out bugs (which they nicely do for Google now on the phone side). However, I do not believe it will be released before a transition into Ice Cream Sandwich.
Forget 3.2, are us 10.1v users even going to see 3.1???
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Forget 3.2, are us 10.1v users even going to see 3.1???
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There's a HC 3.1 ROM by seo available in the 10.1v section - incl. TouchWiz.
Dont know
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Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out
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This sounds about right. Especially the "maybe."
seems like 3.2 is just about 7 or 8 inch tablet support so don't sweat that.
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seems like 3.2 is just about 7 or 8 inch tablet support so don't sweat that.
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It's not just about smaller screen tablets. It brings some small bug fixes also:
There is no lag on up side down home screen. Portrait is also better but not much.
Browser seems a little faster and typing a message on XDA doesn't lag as bad as it did on 3.1
I was also planning to buy SGT, but now I'm not sure anymore. I don't want to wait for updates. In this regard, the US Xoom is the best tablet. Only downside is that the US 3G version doesn't work in Europe and i want a tablet with 3G connectivity.
I got the update(wifi Only). Any one have a clue how to access it? Or make Sgt use it? The SD card i mean..lol
There isn't a 3.2 update for Galaxy Tab, and there is no SD card either. Troll somewhere else
I've been a forum reader/poster for over 20 years. Seen many things and read many posts. I know trolls and I know funny.
It's safe to say that the threads that I've read on the XDA forums have the most people with lack of sense of humor than any I've been a part of.
Why is that?
I didn't think it was funny... It was a clear troll post.
Could the 10.1 run 3.2 from the Zoom, or does it have to be made specifically for the Samsung 10.1?
Because supposedly reverse landscape and portrait mode performance are improved, near regular landscape performance.
Thanks for making my point.
Hi guys, let me just get down to the meat of the issue. I think its time we all come together and apply some form of social pressure on samsung concerning their update road map for the (second gen) galaxy tab series (10.1,8.9 and 7 plus) I paid about $575 for the 16gb 3G version of the galaxy tab 8.9 and almost returned it immediately because of the horrendous lag of the device (in landscape mode) when swyping across home screens and application grid. Thankfully I followed the advise of many here and installed a custom rom (in my case overcome) which made the device much more usable. What is most annoying is not just how samsung allowed such a laggy device to be released but also keeping mute about any update plans whatsoever. I am not even talking about ice cream sandwich, honeycomb 3.2 has been out for a couple of months now and all the major android honeycomb tablets (The Xoom and transformer) has received updates on their devices. even though mainly a bug fix release. Honeycomb 3.2 would go a long way to fix many of the annoyance currently experienced by galaxy tab owners.
I am not saying samsung should update my device tomorrow, but at least don't keep me in the dark. We all paid top dollars for their device hence the least they could do is to keep us informed on pending updates and also be damn fast about it. There is no doubt as to the legendariness of samsung's hardware awesomeness. Till date they have the best phone hardware in the market (galaxy s2 is the gold standard by which other mobile phones are measured) and their 2nd generation galaxy tab are the best tablets hardware ever. But samsung scores a zero when it comes to communicating with their users. It doesn't hurt to let your users know what is coming .. it removes the need for rumours and makes them even more loyal. And we are loyal bunch of users. Even though the world would have us believe that tablets start and ends with ipad. we stuck with samsung and all we ask is that they at least treat us with respect. Acknowledge by taking to us.
I can not describe the wave of jealousy I get everytime I hear acer talk about how their updates plans for ice cream sandwich and how the OG transformer would be receiving updates this year end, how the transformer is getting the second batch of ice cream sandwich updates.. all the while I am refreshing XDA forum waiting for a good Samaritan from the community to release the fix that I expected from samsung. I think this is unacceptable.
I don't think we sit milkly by and accept this kinda treatment from samsung. I think its time we take them to task using social media. I don't own a facebook account but I don't mind creating one. Its time we make our self heard and get samsung to listen to us.. Goal is simple. samsung needs to become more engaged with its fans and users. I mean what harm could come out of letting users know about update plans? what ill could come out of prompt updates to recent android release. I am a proud owner and the galaxy s2 and with that device I am not so much concerned with updates. But that is because the galaxy s2 is a master piece and runs fine as it is. I can not say the same about my galaxy tab 8.9.. The performance of that device could be better. software not hardware is behind the laggy performance which is why it pisses me to no small extent knowing they is a software update out there which fixes my issue. Other OEMs are releasing it to their devices (or engaging their users on future release) while samsung just keeps mute.
My goal is to get samsung to engage us their users more on update plans. or roadmap.
And To get them to be more speedy when it comes to releasing updates.
How do we go about this. looking at the success of how sustained facebook campaigns has worked for HTC, LG and motorolla users in the past, how it has gotten these companies to reverse policies which were unfriendly to their users. I think its time samsung galaxy tab users get on facebook and mount a sustained but peaceful and civil plea to samsung. Let us make our voices heard.
Its time we direct our inquiries directly to samsung. Hopefully we can raise enough dust that someone high up would push the button that makes the necessary changes.
Either way it's in samsung interest to be known as an OEM which listens to their users.
Its in their interest to be known as an OEM who always release updates for their device.
Does anyone share my thoughts on this?
About updates, it seems to me that Samsung produces a lot of updates every month, they just don't push them out. We get at least two leaked firmware a month. I'm ok with that because I don't like Kies anyway and Odin is easy to use. Android 3.2 seems to be out in Korea, so it can't be far for us, I expect the next leak to have it (KJ1?).
About the gt8.9 lag in landscape mode, unfortunately I think that's hardware problem. All tabs with tegra soc have this lag in portrait. For some unknown reason the gt8.9 screen is rotated 90 degrees (look in build.prop file) and that's why it has this problem in landscape. So I don't believe android 3.2 will fix this. Maybe ICS will, if it does do something very differently in launcher.
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About updates, it seems to me that Samsung produces a lot of updates every month, they just don't push them out. We get at least two leaked firmware a month. Android 3.2 seems to be out in Korea, so it can't be far for us, I expect the next leak to have it (KJ1?)..
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which brings me to the point of user engagement. Samsung could do better in that area. Its just hikes me when acer, motorola and HTC release update road map for their devices and we get nothing from samsung. They could do better in that regards
About the gt8.9 lag in landscape mode, unfortunately I think that's hardware problem. All tabs with tegra soc have this lag in portrait. For some unknown reason the gt8.9 screen is rotated 90 degrees (look in build.prop file) and that's why it has this problem in landscape. So I don't believe android 3.2 will fix this. Maybe ICS will, if it does do something very differently in launcher
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Your signature listed the xoom with hc 3.2.1 does that mean you still have same lag even with honeycomb 3.2?
we are not even sure about ICS samsung has not said anything officially about which device would get updated and when. (and no random comment from a samsung italian site/facebook page does not count as official)
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Your signature listed the xoom with hc 3.2.1 does that mean you still have same lag even with honeycomb 3.2?
we are not even sure about ICS samsung has not said anything officially about which device would get updated and when. (and no random comment from a samsung italian site/facebook page does not count as official)
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Yes, Xoom with Android 3.2.1 still isn't smooth when changing homescreens in portrait. Like i already said, it's a known problem with all Tergra 2 Honeycomb tablets. Only new thing about GT8.9 is that in that case it's in landscape and not portrait. If you don't believe me, hold your tab in portrait and you will see how smooth the scrolling through homescreens is. I can't believe Samsung didn't know about this problem, it seems they just thought that we can live with it. I can and have lived with my Xoom and GT10.1 that have this problem in portrait mode and i have never complained about this issue because i rarely use the tablet in portrait. But having this problem in landscape... i'm starting to hate my GT8.9 which i bought just a few days ago. I'm now using GT8.9 with only one homescreen set up because i don't want to see this jerky scrolling.
All I care about is that we get an Ice Cream Sandwich ROM in a timely manner. Since Samsung is the launch partner with Google on ICS, they'd better do more than just try to sell the Galaxy Nexus.
I have to say that I'm not impressed with the lack of updates either -- a device of this caliber deserves to not be released and then ignored over time. Just like a desktop or laptop computer, I expect to apply updates on a regular basis to fix reliability and security bugs, at the OS level.
As if this ever worked. Are we in kindergarten or what?
So I'm in Canada and just got my galaxy 10.1 back from Samsung tech support (for repairs) and it came back with Honeycomb 3.2
I must say that it is wayyy smoother and better then 3.1
Now just give us a system dump so the rest of us can flash it
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So I'm in Canada and just got my galaxy 10.1 back from Samsung tech support (for repairs) and it came back with Honeycomb 3.2
I must say that it is wayyy smoother and better then 3.1
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post a pic.
Lanky14 said:
So I'm in Canada and just got my galaxy 10.1 back from Samsung tech support (for repairs) and it came back with Honeycomb 3.2
I must say that it is wayyy smoother and better then 3.1
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Picture, or it didn't happen. Also seems that some guys in Israel, I think, have also got it. JK1 that was called. I think Task650 is helping that guy to dump the system. Maybe I should mention that that was for 7510.
Lanky14 said:
So I'm in Canada and just got my galaxy 10.1 back from Samsung tech support (for repairs) and it came back with Honeycomb 3.2
I must say that it is wayyy smoother and better then 3.1
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Turn it to portrait, is scrolling through homescreens still smooth? I don't think so.
It would definately be great to get updates more often.
But on the other hand I do not recall Samsung having ever published, promised etc. that they will provide updates on a regular basis. It's just a nice thing that happens and I think.
Howcome do people feel they have a right to regular free updates?
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Picture, or it didn't happen. Also seems that some guys in Israel, I think, have also got it. JK1 that was called. I think Task650 is helping that guy to dump the system. Maybe I should mention that that was for 7510.
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Turn it to portrait, is scrolling through homescreens still smooth? I don't think so.
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a bit more choppy, but not bad at all!
I don't think it will ever be iPad smooth... but way more bearable then when it was 3.1
Lanky14 said:
So I'm in Canada and just got my galaxy 10.1 back from Samsung tech support (for repairs) and it came back with Honeycomb 3.2
I must say that it is wayyy smoother and better then 3.1
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If you have the time, I am sure some devs would love a system dump of 3.2 Here is a guide using adb: http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-654561.html
Thanks!
Tubes6al4v said:
If you have the time, I am sure some devs would love a system dump of 3.2 Here is a guide using adb: http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-654561.html
Thanks!
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I have no problem doing that except I am about to head out on a 3 week vacation. If no one else has done it by beginning of Dec (I get back the 3rd), I will gladly do it
You can't be serious. Vacation can wait, dump that image
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You can't be serious. Vacation can wait, dump that image
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hahahha exactly! hook us up! lol (take your laptop with you)
I have the 7.0 Plus and its sort of smooth while swiping in either mode. It only stutters maybe 1 out of 10 swipes.
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I have the 7.0 Plus and its sort of smooth while swiping in either mode. It only stutters maybe 1 out of 10 swipes.
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7.0+ doesn't have Tegra 2 SoC so this doesn't mean much, except it proves that its a hardware problem on Tegra tablets.
I have the first Samsung Galaxy Tab P1010 with 2.2 OS and was considering getting the new Tab 7.0 Plus just to have it for 3.2 OS. Should I make the leap just for the new OS or is it not really worth it? Screen seems to be the same and size doesn't matter to me. Just wanted a few thoughts and opinons.
I wouldn't do it until ICS has been released for it and has been available for a month or so. I've already been burned once by no updates from Samsung, I won't let myself get screwed by them again. If anyone else releases a 7" or 8" ICS Tablet with decent specs anytime soon, I would look at them first before I would consider another Samsung Tablet.
A lot of ICS Tablets with lesser cost will be released soon and I strongly advice against buying Galaxy Tab plus now.
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The original Galaxy Tab actually has a better screen than the plus (it is much brighter).
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The original Galaxy Tab actually has a better screen than the plus (it is much brighter).
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Really? I think it's the same screen.
At any rate, before you rush out and upgrade your Tab just for the sake of doing so, why not try rooting and flashing a 2.3 based ROM? The Overcome 4.0 kernel gives you a lot more battery life over stock 2.2, and then you can use that ROM or maybe others (I'm rocking the ICS-lookalike ROM).
You'll probably find that 2.3 will give your Tab a new lease on life. There are some good tablets on the market now, but there will be better ones if you can wait 6 months. Hell, the iPad 3 (*ducks*) might be compelling enough to jump over to iOS.
My tuppence would be to wait for the 7.7 ...it's imminent everywhere as I understand it. There are some people posted here with pics that already own it.
Id wait and see what the nexus tablet will be. Or wait for an official ICS tablet. Dont ever trust OEMs to give you updates and personally, Honeycomb isnt all that great or worth the upgrade. Do a CM7 with tablet tweaks and black out the buttons.
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Really? I think it's the same screen.
At any rate, before you rush out and upgrade your Tab just for the sake of doing so, why not try rooting and flashing a 2.3 based ROM? The Overcome 4.0 kernel gives you a lot more battery life over stock 2.2, and then you can use that ROM or maybe others (I'm rocking the ICS-lookalike ROM).
You'll probably find that 2.3 will give your Tab a new lease on life. There are some good tablets on the market now, but there will be better ones if you can wait 6 months. Hell, the iPad 3 (*ducks*) might be compelling enough to jump over to iOS.
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IPad 3 will be the hardware bump version. iOS still is nice but wont be much different for that tablet. The screen, Siri, RAM, etc and possibly a 7" version. That woild make me.buy one but not jumpship. Android is just to customizable to leave.
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I wouldn't do it until ICS has been released for it and has been available for a month or so. I've already been burned once by no updates from Samsung, I won't let myself get screwed by them again. If anyone else releases a 7" or 8" ICS Tablet with decent specs anytime soon, I would look at them first before I would consider another Samsung Tablet.
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Agreed - Samsung not making ICS available for the firstgen tab 7 and SGS is an insult considering how well the CM9 port for the SGS1 functions.
ICS 4.0.3 RC1 on original SGS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR7282CNv0w&feature=related
As an OG Galaxy Tab owner and the new owner of a Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus, here's my two cents.
1. The screen resolution is the same, but the screen on the 7.0 plus is of better quality. The viewing angles are a bit better, the blacks are darker, and the brightness is better managed.
2. While I agree that cheaper 7in tablets are on their way, they are cheaper for a reason. The build quality, features, and attention to detail are always lacking on cheaper devices. Not only that, but even other premium device makers always struggle to match Samsung's build and screen quality in the tablet market. Samsung has also promised to provide an ICS update to the Galaxy Tab 10.1, 8.9, 7.0 Plus, and 7.7. Samsung promised a Gingerbread update to the OG Tab, and they did manage to deliver even though the carriers in the US dragged their feet on pushing the update. Since the 7.0 Plus, like the 10.1 and 8.9, is wifi, updates are quicker. My 10.1 has had 3 updates since I bought it on launch day six months ago in June.
3. The Galaxy Tab 7.7, at least in the US, is tied to Verizon. This means it is to a contract, which is a sad fate indeed. I'm willing to take a .7in smaller, non-AMOLED screen in order to be free of the carriers. If you're in Europe or the UK, then the 7.7 may be an option for you.
4. The 7.0 Plus brings much more to the table than just Honeycomb. The dual-core 1.2ghz processor and 1gb of ram make the device much faster and allow it to run apps, games, and videos much better, and with much more ease than the OG Galaxy Tab. If you loved the 7in form factor of the first tab, then the 7.0 will feel sublime, mixing the convenient 7in size with a much thinner body. It feels lighter in hand and is nicer to hold for long periods of time.
Essentially, there is a lot to love about the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus, especially if you were a owner/fan of the original. There are other devices, but at least with the Galaxy Tab, you already know what kind of build quality to expect. While Samsung did upset people by not providing the OG tab with ICS, you are on XDA, and ICS is already in the works for the OG Tab. It will run, and run well, so you could just wait for that. On the other hand, it will never run as well as it will on the upgraded hardware of the 7.0 Plus.
In my opinion, the 7.0 Plus is a very good upgrade option if you're willing to spend the money. I did, and I haven't been disappointed, (and I am very picky when it comes to my devices, to the point of being anal.) As I said before, just my two cents. Good luck with your decision.
Awesome reply rkmj...btw where did you make your sig pic?
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Awesome reply rkmj...btw where did you make your sig pic?
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Thanks. I actually made it manually with GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program. It's the open-source alternative to photoshop.) I started it one day after cleaning out my "tech graveyard" I usually try to update it as I get new devices.
Personally I don't think, you get too much more from that step. I'll stay with my SGT P1000 for several months (and use newer firmware than that provided by Samsung)
Well, I'd like to hold off as long as possible before buying a tab. When I last looked Samsung had released any updates for the P1010. Also the only custom firmware I've seen are for everything but the wifi only model. All I really want is to get it up to 2.3 at least.
Did you have a look at the rom section in this forum? If you don't mind too much for touchwiz, I'd recommend the OVERCOME rom to you, which incorperates many fine features plus android 2.3 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1317384
Ice cream sandwich is on it's way for the tab, so I don't mind the plus ;-)
It looks like those won't work with the Wifi only tab P1010.
"Overcome ROMs/Kernels will NOT work with Latin American Tabs (the P1000L/N Galaxy Tabs)/CDMA-Based Tabs (If your Tab doesn’t have a SIM card, it won’t work…sorry!)/Wi-Fi Only Tabs (P1010 models!)"
if you were going from p1000 to plus, I wouldn't recommend it, seeing as I have good hope it will get ICS from our friendly devs. For the p1010 however, there is not much hope for ICS, so anything with HC or ICS is an upgrade.
I'd personally rather go all the way to the 7.7 though.
The 7.7 is hard to put down! I think the step from the old 7" to the new 7+ isn't that great, especially if you're flashing a ROM like Overcome. The bottom line is the screen and apps are mostly the same, save a few enhancements like the IR port and faster CPU. Although, the 7+ is a fairly good deal. If you flash a 2.3 ROM you may see a new lease on the 7" and then later the 7.7s (or other brand) will be widely available at a cheaper price in the US.
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if you were going from p1000 to plus, I wouldn't recommend it, seeing as I have good hope it will get ICS from our friendly devs. For the p1010 however, there is not much hope for ICS, so anything with HC or ICS is an upgrade.
I'd personally rather go all the way to the 7.7 though.
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I'm running ICS right now on my sprint tab and it works great. No its not as smooth as ICS on my other devices...but still impressive none the less. I'm really looking fwd to getting the plus and 7.7 because I do think those will be a big upgrade from the og tab.
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It looks like those won't work with the Wifi only tab P1010.
"Overcome ROMs/Kernels will NOT work with Latin American Tabs (the P1000L/N Galaxy Tabs)/CDMA-Based Tabs (If your Tab doesn’t have a SIM card, it won’t work…sorry!)/Wi-Fi Only Tabs (P1010 models!)"
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So I'm kind of confused on which tabs the Overcome will work on? someone Just wrote a few posts back that they were running it on there sprint tab? Isn't that CDMA? I have a VZW OG SCH-I800 Tab, will Overcome or any other Rom ever be able to port an ICS Rom to it?
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I have the Tab Pro 4 10.1, Tab 3 7" and the Nexus 7 2012. My Nexus 7 2012 had gone through all the updates to Lollipop but none of my Samsung devices have any updates for months while the Nexus 7 the oldest of all the three have all these updates that just keeps on coming. I'm getting frustrated with Samsung because until now my Samsung tablets are stuck at 4.4.2. If Samsung can release a new phone/tablet every 3 months with the latest OS then why can't they update the OS of the older ones at the same rate? Why do we ever bother reading the news about Android's latest Lollipop if we can't even get them on time? All I see is - it's coming, yeah right! What kind of software developers or engineers they have in there? Maybe they only have one guy working on it that's why it's taking so long or never at all. With all that money that they have, they can't even do this simple things. I guess that's why they couldn't beat Apple at their own game. Anyway, I'm out. Thanks for reading!
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I have the Tab Pro 4 10.1, Tab 3 7" and the Nexus 7 2012. My Nexus 7 2012 had gone through all the updates to Lollipop but none of my Samsung devices have any updates for months while the Nexus 7 the oldest of all the three have all these updates that just keeps on coming. I'm getting frustrated with Samsung because until now my Samsung tablets are stuck at 4.4.2. If Samsung can release a new phone/tablet every 3 months with the latest OS then why can't they update the OS of the older ones at the same rate? Why do we ever bother reading the news about Android's latest Lollipop if we can't even get them on time? All I see is - it's coming, yeah right! What kind of software developers or engineers they have in there? Maybe they only have one guy working on it that's why it's taking so long or never at all. With all that money that they have, they can't even do this simple things. I guess that's why they couldn't beat Apple at their own game. Anyway, I'm out. Thanks for reading!
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Just what do you see on Lollipop that makes you want it so bad.
I have purposely turned off OS updates on my N7 as don't want it. The device has not enough power to operate more and more memory intensive OS.
I let my N4 get updated and now regret it. Had no problems prior but now the battery drains overnight if left on standby. I used to let it go for several days before charging now I have to ensure it is plugged in and recharged nightly. This battery drain is being experienced by others. I don't want to have to do a complete factory reset and load everything again which is what some people recommend when doing these updates. Lollipop to me offers nothing that I want and it removed the ability to quickly close all apps which now must be done individually a pain. That plus the chance of other problems makes me want to leave my tab as is.
Google makes the Nexus line.
Google makes Android.
It's to be expected that a Nexus gets the Android updates first.
I'm under the impression the TabPros are getting Lollipop in Jan/Feb sometime with the rest of the year old devices, is that way out to lunch? If they aren't, I will be jumping to CM12 way sooner than later!
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I'm under the impression the TabPros are getting Lollipop in Jan/Feb sometime with the rest of the year old devices, is that way out to lunch? If they aren't, I will be jumping to CM12 way sooner than later!
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I just installed cm12 on my tab pro 8.4 and its freaking amazing. Just for laughs I backed everything up and loaded touchwiz back onto it cause its been awhile, i put cm11 on it like a week after I got it. Anyways, I loaded touchwiz back onto it and I couldn't believe how bad it sucked, and I had it debloated, rooted and finevtuned! My advicemis... Screw stock LP and just upgrade to cm12
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I'm under the impression the TabPros are getting Lollipop in Jan/Feb sometime with the rest of the year old devices, is that way out to lunch? If they aren't, I will be jumping to CM12 way sooner than later!
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fake news
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Just what do you see on Lollipop that makes you want it so bad.
I have purposely turned off OS updates on my N7 as don't want it. The device has not enough power to operate more and more memory intensive OS.
I let my N4 get updated and now regret it. Had no problems prior but now the battery drains overnight if left on standby. I used to let it go for several days before charging now I have to ensure it is plugged in and recharged nightly. This battery drain is being experienced by others. I don't want to have to do a complete factory reset and load everything again which is what some people recommend when doing these updates. Lollipop to me offers nothing that I want and it removed the ability to quickly close all apps which now must be done individually a pain. That plus the chance of other problems makes me want to leave my tab as is.
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Whats so good about lollipop..... wellllll, on my phone after lollipop update I went from a 32k antutu to a 48k antutu, after lollipop im getting noticeably better performance in browsing and gaming, after lollipop im getting MUCH better battery life, after lollipop my phone runs like I want it to. As for being more memory intensive better look again. In its initial release lollipop had a memory leak, that was fixed so now it is easier on your device than kitkat. As for the close all in recent tasks which has been renamed...its still there. As always brand specific features will overwrite stock features though.
So in short why would someone want lollipop? It is simply better in almost every way. One of the few updates I have thought worthy of taking.
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What do you mean by "fake news"? TabPro will not be updated? :crying:
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What do you mean by "fake news"? TabPro will not be updated? :crying:
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No no The original post was half wrong. It said sometime around jan/feb lol. But lollipop should come somewhere this year.
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I just installed cm12 on my tab pro 8.4 and its freaking amazing. Just for laughs I backed everything up and loaded touchwiz back onto it cause its been awhile, i put cm11 on it like a week after I got it. Anyways, I loaded touchwiz back onto it and I couldn't believe how bad it sucked, and I had it debloated, rooted and finevtuned! My advicemis... Screw stock LP and just upgrade to cm12
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Dude, yes. This a hundred times. I was going to return this stupid tablet (10.1) because the TW ROM is so horrifically bad and sluggish. With CM12 it flies.
Yup, it'll either be out this year, next year, or the year after that. Trust me. Don't worry about it. Keep buying Samsung tablets, they're great.
I see a thread just like this one on every single device I've ever owned. A spoiled baby crying that they don't get updates right away. If you want updates so fast why would you get anything but Nexus? Go install CM12 & be happy.
Reminds me of Veruca Salt
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I see a thread just like this one on every single device I've ever owned. A spoiled baby crying that they don't get updates right away. If you want updates so fast why would you get anything but Nexus? Go install CM12 & be happy.
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lol seriously? 4.4.2 is just so out of date, it makes sense everyone is complaining.
not to mention, there's so many dumb bugs on the official GTP 8.4 firmware that it's pretty obvious this model is an "afterthought" for samsung
i actually don't expect ANY further updates for this model, it's pretty clear that when a company replaces a product with a newer product just 4 months after the product comes out (Tab S) they consider the first product a failure and don't care about it anymore
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lol seriously? 4.4.2 is just so out of date, it makes sense everyone is complaining.
not to mention, there's so many dumb bugs on the official GTP 8.4 firmware that it's pretty obvious this model is an "afterthought" for samsung
i actually don't expect ANY further updates for this model, it's pretty clear that when a company replaces a product with a newer product just 4 months after the product comes out (Tab S) they consider the first product a failure and don't care about it anymore
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It is not that out of date cmon man. If/when 5.0 drops you will see a new thread dedicated to how bad it is on the tablet & asking how to go back to kitkat. If you want loli so bad why not play with cm12? If updates are such a priority to you why did you get this device? It has been like this for pretty much every non nexus device. Some get updates pretty quick, but most have to wait months.
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Dude, yes. This a hundred times. I was going to return this stupid tablet (10.1) because the TW ROM is so horrifically bad and sluggish. With CM12 it flies.
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hi bro, would you care to check something for me? I'm reluctant to flash cm12 until I know this.
in CM12 for tab pro 10.1 if you set an unlock pattern. does it appear on the first screen after pushing power button(like stock) or do you have to swipe for it to appear? (which means additional screen/step before unlock)
edit: oh well, nevermind..
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I have the Tab Pro 4 10.1, Tab 3 7" and the Nexus 7 2012. My Nexus 7 2012 had gone through all the updates to Lollipop but none of my Samsung devices have any updates for months while the Nexus 7 the oldest of all the three have all these updates that just keeps on coming. I'm getting frustrated with Samsung because until now my Samsung tablets are stuck at 4.4.2.
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Are you really happy with that Lollipop on your Nexus 7 (2012)? I also own a Nexus 7 (2012) which became useless after Lollipop update.
Guys, go and visit the Nexus 7 sub-forum here and see how frustrated are those people after they got Lollipop.
I am really happy with my Samsung's (especially with 8.4), I wouldn't trade my milliseconds lag for a 30 seconds Lollipop lag and I will wait some good time when the update will become available.
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hi bro, would you care to check something for me? I'm reluctant to flash cm12 until I know this.
in CM12 for tab pro 10.1 if you set an unlock pattern. does it appear on the first screen after pushing power button(like stock) or do you have to swipe for it to appear? (which means additional screen/step before unlock)
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It's the first thing you see after unlocking the device
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Says 5.0.2 for Tab Pro 8.4 due in April.
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Says 5.0.2 for Tab Pro 8.4 due in April.
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I only see the tab s 8.4 listed.