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[Q] Android 2.3 How Long Will It Take HTC ?

With Android 2.3 Gingerbread due out before the end of the year. How long do you think it will take HTC to push out the upgrade ?
IMO HTC are not the fastest of companies to update their OS the latest google offerings.
The new Samsung is rumored to be running 2.3 out of the box.
Whats your thoughts ?

themonkster said:
With Android 2.3 Gingerbread due out before the end of the year. How long do you think it will take HTC to push out the upgrade ?
IMO HTC are not the fastest of companies to update their OS the latest google offerings.
The new Samsung is rumored to be running 2.3 out of the box.
Whats your thoughts ?
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2-3 months maybe according to what happened to the desire.. that new samsung is AOSP based isnt it.. not touchwiz, lets see when Galaxy S will be getting gingerbread officially

IMO HTC are not the fastest of companies to update their OS the latest google offerings.
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absolutely agreed they build really cool phones, but they are indeed not famous for software updates...
2-3 months maybe according to what happened to the desire..
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when I see that my working colleagues with a HTC legend are still on android 2.1 I doubt a software update in the first year... :\ Although DHD may be (one of their) top phones. But lets hope HTC improves on that, I would even pay for Android version upgrades...

Isn't Gingerbread rumoured not suppose to allow for any overlays.? If so then I doubt it will come to the DHD.

in my experience owning HTC handsets with sense, there will only be 1 update during the life time of the gadget. being 2.3 or 3.0, don't expect it to be any time soon, especially when current DHD is not every widely available yet.
I say 6-8 month at least.
Its one annoying aspect of owning HTC sense phone, they are not a software specialist.
However, the fact that Samsung is getting Nexus Two with Gingerbread probably means HTC is under pressure to have at least one cracking phone with 2.3. We can only wait and see if they choose to update DHD or launch a new line.
Really hated Galaxy S and gutted that's what the Nexus Two will be based on

People always say HTC isn't the best with updates... but who is, aside from google with the nexus one?

I agree no one is quick in getting software updates so no reason to just slag off HTC.

I really hope HTC don't take too long. But then again i plan on rooting and loading a custom gingerbread rom, stock of course. Now about that root...

SupremeBeaver said:
I really hope HTC don't take too long. But then again i plan on rooting and loading a custom gingerbread rom, stock of course. Now about that root...
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hehehe what about having the phone first
you might do what i'm plaining to do http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8911576#post8911576

riz157 said:
I agree no one is quick in getting software updates so no reason to just slag off HTC.
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I have to diagree.
HTC is the first and biggest androids producer. They made Nexus One which is great when it comes to software support. If anyone they should be setting the standard not dragging the progress. They said it themselves that they wanted to benefit from the "Google Experience", and frankly speaking they are the last brand on earth to have excuses for not keeping up with android progress.

wendy75 said:
Isn't Gingerbread rumoured not suppose to allow for any overlays.? If so then I doubt it will come to the DHD.
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That doesnt make any sense the os is supposed to be free to anyone to use any overlay or luncher they want to use
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I ve heard the same thing as well. supposed to be one of google's way to resolve the OS fragmentation problem. However I heard that's going to happen in Honeycomb, not Gingerbread.

cezent said:
I ve heard the same thing as well. supposed to be one of google's way to resolve the OS fragmentation problem. However I heard that's going to happen in Honeycomb, not Gingerbread.
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ooh interesting, that would be stir things up a bit becuase that would mean if samsungs phones are the same as htc (software), then they have to either battle on hardware or price
but no sense

wendy75 said:
Isn't Gingerbread rumoured not suppose to allow for any overlays.? If so then I doubt it will come to the DHD.
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It's a debunked rumor. AOSP interface has barely changed with Android 2.3

My guess is 2-3 months, One of the reasons I chose HTC was because they are among the fastest to update ( I love Sense ). Samsung just started rolling 2.2 out, Sony Ericsson haven't even updated to 2.2, Sony Ericsson getting 2.1 this weekend..

Traxxor said:
My guess is 2-3 months, One of the reasons I chose HTC was because they are among the fastest to update ( I love Sense ). Samsung just started rolling 2.2 out, Sony Ericsson haven't even updated to 2.2, Sony Ericsson getting 2.1 this weekend..
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I ll bet £50 it ll take more than 3 months, any taker?
It took HTC 8 month to update Hero.

cezent said:
I ll bet £50 it ll take more than 3 months, any taker?
It took HTC 8 month to update Hero.
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Yes,but then again,the Hero was an old,outdated device then.Desire had already come out and there were many better devices out there.Remember that the Desire was one of the first phones to get Froyo(I think second after the Nexus One).Don't be so sure it will take much time...

tolis626 said:
Yes,but then again,the Hero was an old,outdated device then.Desire had already come out and there were many better devices out there.Remember that the Desire was one of the first phones to get Froyo(I think second after the Nexus One).Don't be so sure it will take much time...
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I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but my point being people buying DHD shouldn't put too much hope in getting gingerbread immediately. DHD hardware is superb and the sense overlay on 2.2 has got lots of great features, and its probably just a matter of time before DHD get rooted and 2.3 be ported over anyway.
I f none of these matters as much as getting 2.3 straightaway, hold on for a couple more weeks and get the Nexus Two is probably a better idea(and wear the pain of a samsung phone, I m not falling for that again)

if i recall gingerbread was roughly estimated for december/janurary
thought there were still issues with oracle and google over android using dalvik vm?so I thought, yes me only- not starting a rumor- that that might have delayed it as dalvik is part of java and ISN'T open source?
anyways your device doesnt get 1 update only
look at the mytouch 3g? had android 1.5, 1.6 and 2.2 3 upgradeds in its life?
now look at the desire, htc call it a high end product. it was on 2.1 is running 2.2 and will definately get gingerbread when it comes out, but no time scale will be given for that.
HTC are better then any company in giving updates if anything compared to other companies.
when an company decides to put its own overlay is when things get delayed. if they keep it vanilla releases would be quick and easy, but how do you make your device unique? what features do you add to make you stand out the crowd?

El_Nino9 said:
if i recall gingerbread was roughly estimated for december/janurary
thought there were still issues with oracle and google over android using dalvik vm?so I thought, yes me only- not starting a rumor- that that might have delayed it as dalvik is part of java and ISN'T open source?
anyways your device doesnt get 1 update only
look at the mytouch 3g? had android 1.5, 1.6 and 2.2 3 upgradeds in its life?
now look at the desire, htc call it a high end product. it was on 2.1 is running 2.2 and will definately get gingerbread when it comes out, but no time scale will be given for that.
HTC are better then any company in giving updates if anything compared to other companies.
when an company decides to put its own overlay is when things get delayed. if they keep it vanilla releases would be quick and easy, but how do you make your device unique? what features do you add to make you stand out the crowd?
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You're the man!

Samsung Galaxy S Getting Android 2.3 Gingerbread February,2011

GOOD NEWS! for Galaxy S owners, the Gingerbread man will be coming to Samsung Most popular smartphone (Galaxy S) Flag-ship.
Remeber, Earlier this Month, Samsung Mobile India Twitter feed tells the fact that the mobile will get Android 2.3 (Screenshot below), The company kept it short and simple with a brief tweet: "Yes we will get gingerbeard on GalaxyS." but no other info announced from the company about the update. As we know Samsung has released the Froyo to All users on Many worldwide Carriers on 11,November 2010 and All of them is Now enjoying Froyo and Waiting to taste the Gingerbread.
Well, Today we Got a Confirmation That Samsung Galaxy S is Getting Another Update probably on February,2011 may be Earlier and this update will have Android 2.3 Gingerbread onboard. Leaked ROMs and Videos may start rolling-out on January so Stay tuned, Enjoy your Froyo... Gingerbread is coming on the way to Make "YouMobile".
Gingerbread brings with it an improved user interface which is slicker and more streamlined, along with better power management. It also boasts one-touch word selection and copy/paste, support for multiple cameras and goodies such as NFC (Near Field Communications).
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This is a joke for sure.
My S has Eclair, till this time there is no official froyo upgrade available for my phone and samsung is going to release gingerbread the coming February?
Are we talking about Samsung or about the comedy channel?
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This is the difference between porting (having to program the drivers for about everything) and having a native release (like HTC on N1).
Now that NexusS is in the hands of Google, we can expect faster release!

milro1970 said:
This is a joke for sure.
My S has Eclair, till this time there is no official froyo upgrade available for my phone and samsung is going to release gingerbread the coming February?
Are we talking about Samsung or about the comedy channel?
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Froyo has been out since October/early November, officially released by Samsung. Blame your carrier if your not getting the update. Contrary to belief, Samsung is quicker than HTC when pushing out updates, it's just that HTC devices have a much larger userbase on XDA, hence the quicker porting/updating.

2.2.1 has been out officially since September as well on N1,

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2.2.1 has been out officially since September as well on N1,
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N1 is the base on wich they developped the update, don't you think it's normal it gets prior updates?
It is also pretty usual that all the "clones" of N1 will get theses updates pretty fast, since HTC only have to put their bloatware on it and it's pretty much done!

Thanks! Hope this is true.

Is this website a reputable source?

Im just going we can reg hack again for gingerbread
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2.3 will come officialy probably by the time the phone is phased out.. not all countries have 2.2 yet.

err i will believe when i see leaked firmware of 2.3. Then it shows that they are truly working for a 2.3 release

Billus said:
support for multiple cameras and goodies such as NFC (Near Field Communications).
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Both of these are hardware dependant and both the Galaxy S doesn't have. The multiple camera support is for using with taking 3D pictures and/or recording 3D movies. And NFC is there so that android devices can attempt to get ahead of the iphone5 which is said to support it but these needs a dedicated chip.

Seriously, the Nexus S is nearly identical to the Galaxy S, and it takes them this long?

RambJoe said:
Seriously, the Nexus S is nearly identical to the Galaxy S, and it takes them this long?
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takes them how long? the nexus s was released yesterday.
Google can not give the gingerbread code out to companies until it has been officially released.
Meaning no company will have any advantage in the race for gingerbread.
Only advantage samsung has, is gingerbread was built using their hardware

BlackDino said:
Only advantage samsung has, is gingerbread was built using their hardware
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Hoping to see some crazy numbers for Linpak once JIT is optimized for Hummingbird..

Wait and see
well the recent froyo release to Bell i9000m owners did some damage to many peoples internal SD cards. Wonder what gingerbread will do to them...(melt them!)
Ah well, God knows I will try anything to get this device to function properly - I really do love it - but cant stand the issues it has.

fablife said:
well the recent froyo release to Bell i9000m owners did some damage to many peoples internal SD cards. Wonder what gingerbread will do to them...(melt them!)
Ah well, God knows I will try anything to get this device to function properly - I really do love it - but cant stand the issues it has.
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I have had one problem with this phone since purchase in September. You need to try a custom rom with a kernel upgrade, not like there is any lag in stock JPU.
I don't get how so many people complain about this great device when it can be pimped out within 30 minutes.
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Some Galaxy still don't have an official Froyo update yet. And the ones that do are still laggy. The 2.2.1 is finally a ROM that isn't laggy but its not official its a leak.
If Samsung comes out with Gingerbread they will screw it up. I'd rather have the community come up with a basic Gingerbread that works. And the community will do it long before Samsung does.

dude this is samsung, we all saw what happened with froyo and all the delays.
I have little hope for a febuary release, i say it's closer to june

2.2.1 is a revelation. I have put it on my galaxy s and its no longer laggy, really smooth, new market, lock screen wallpapers etc. Finally its transformed the phone into the powerhouse it always had the potential to be. I urge you all to get 2.2.1 ASAP!

Galaxy S to get 2.3 start of Q2?

http://phandroid.com/2011/01/22/rum...axy-tab-to-get-gingerbread-beginning-of-q211/
It's a rumor I'd like to believe. The overseas Galaxy S has had 2.2 for a while now, and it's believable that after so many months, they might get 2.3. This works great for us because...
1- we might get it
2- if we don't, someone could use the i9000 code to make a copy for the Vibrant.
With this whole froyo mess, I see Samsung getting us 2.3 eventually just to appease us and bring the best out of our hardware (optimization for Hummingbird). If they can pull 2.3 for us sometime by the end of Q2/start of Q3- It would redeem them for the froyo debacle.
Honeycomb/Ice Cream, whichever, I just don't see us getting officially.

Edit: nm
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SamFirmwares, the originator of this rumor, is a site that has gotten us a lot of Froyo leaked roms. I don't think they would say this unless they know theres a GB rom out there that they are trying to get their hands on.

After flashing from stock 2.1 to Axura 2.2.7.1 I am enjoying a 2.2 ROM. I cannot wait until 2.3 gets out and the devs here play with it. The updates in it look promising, and the power management should definitely push the stellar battery life from these awesome ROMs.

Later than i9000

If history is any indication, we'll get Gingerbread when Honey Comb has been out for at least 3 weeks and thousands of hate tweets have been made.

I wouldn't hold my breath on it.
At this point, I'm just waiting for a new good phone to be released on t-mobile so I can drop my vibrant asap! my frustration has less to do with samsung updates and more to do with the failing GPS (even the latest version of Nero does nothing to alleviate my issues), lack of LED notification, and cheap plastic-feeling build quality

Damonkashu said:
I wouldn't hold my breath on it.
At this point, I'm just waiting for a new good phone to be released on t-mobile so I can drop my vibrant asap! my frustration has less to do with samsung updates and more to do with the failing GPS (even the latest version of Nero does nothing to alleviate my issues), lack of LED notification, and cheap plastic-feeling build quality
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Why don't you update to the Official KA6? I did and mine is running smooth like silk panties without even a lagfix. I am even getting gps fix inside my house with no tweaking done. Just a thought

Damonkashu said:
I wouldn't hold my breath on it.
At this point, I'm just waiting for a new good phone to be released on t-mobile so I can drop my vibrant asap! my frustration has less to do with samsung updates and more to do with the failing GPS (even the latest version of Nero does nothing to alleviate my issues), lack of LED notification, and cheap plastic-feeling build quality
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The LG optimus 2X is a good choice for a new phone.
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QS 755 on stock official Froyo. 2.1 OCLF2.0 QS 2000+....... hmmm?

That would.be quite incredible since the Vibrant 4G is set to launch next month with Froyo. Their new flagship phone launches with Froyo and then the older, nearly identical version gets Gingerbread? I don't see it. T-Mo has every incentive to keep the original Vibrant a step behind so they can sell more new phones.

Let's start now with a class action lawsuit and twitter campaign for honeycomb
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Are you on drugs?
I doubt we will ever see Android 2.3 on the original Vibrant. 1 year is an eternity in the world of Android smart-phones. There is so much competition and the pace is so fast that manufacturers will opt to put their best & brightest efforts into optimizing code for upcoming devices.
For example, the Motorola Atrix probably has a lot of manufacturers trying to figure out how they can make their devices that come after it stand out.
The only thing the Vibrant has going for it is that it shares most of its innards with 2 other phones.
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It's a rumor I'd like to believe. The overseas Galaxy S has had 2.2 for a while now, and it's believable that after so many months, they might get 2.3. This works great for us because...
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To the person who posted scores, Quadrant sucks, no use to test for real life performance. And the vibrant is not really that cheap feeling, would you rather have a few scratches on the backplate or a dent that cannot be replaced?
But sure, anything above 2.2 will probably be mostly theme overhauls for android, maybe a few optimizations for the hummingbird in 2.3 but nothing above that most likely.

for me froyo is the end of the vibrant. my only hope is the devs here who are working on it.
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The way I see it is that this phone is now obsolete. We got one update, so I guess we should consider ourselves lucky. Live and learn, no more RFS phones for me.

stop all this bullcrap.
Samfirmwares is talking about the I9000 not vibrant.
http://phandroid.com/2011/01/22/rum...axy-tab-to-get-gingerbread-beginning-of-q211/
read that, then read some of the comments.
"Everyone, this is possible. Keep in mind, they could be talking about Galaxy S, not the American Variants, or they could be. Two possible scenario:
One: They are talking about the European Galaxy S(has had 2.2 for a while, just got 2.2.1)
Two: It could mean 2.3 could finally be built and ready for carriers to add their bloat and send off as OTA(or Kies*shivers*)Remember, Froyo for the Galaxy S in the states has been ready for months now, it has been the carriers, not Samsung."

I still think the US Galaxy S phones will get at least the update to Gingerbread, at least sometime in the first half of the year. I think that'll be the last update the phones get though.

richiehd said:
With this whole froyo mess, I see Samsung getting us 2.3 eventually just to appease us and bring the best out of our hardware (optimization for Hummingbird). If they can pull 2.3 for us sometime by the end of Q2/start of Q3- It would redeem them for the froyo debacle.
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It's ridiculous that I should be appeased by a 2.3 release 3-6 months after it's been released by Google. I want a new release on the same day that Google releases a new version and I want it from Google. Manufacturers can tweak and release it whenever they want to. At this point, I don't care. But Google needs to fix this. Make every manufacturer provide all the device drivers for all phones sold in the past 2 years available for every release and we should be able to get the latest Google experience for our phones.
The fact that 2.3 is not yet available for Nexus One shows that Google needs to spend some time making this their top priority.

I think a long as the carriers push two year contracts they should support the phone that long.
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CM7 and The future of the Vibrant

While the T959 is a well built phone with great specs, I felt like it was incomplete until 2.2 ROMs came out in November. Then, when 2.3 and the Nexus S were announced, that feeling returned.. now with Cyanogenmod7 working so well, I am in love with my Vibrant once again.
Even without any further version updates (2.4, 3.0 if possible) the phone has been improved dramatically by the work of Team Whiskey, Supercurio, Eugene, and the Cyanogenmod Team.
What keeps the Vibrant apart from all the HTC and Motorola phones when it comes to Cyanogenmod - is it a driver issue? Is it because of the Hummingbird processor?
Now that CM7 is finally working well on the Vibrant, does this mean that future Cyanogenmod versions will work on the Vibrant? Have they finally "cracked the shell" so to speak?

I am curious also as to what makes CyanogenMod different to work on for our phones vs the other ones you named.

CM is actually worse for Motorola devices as they have a locked bootloader...
On the other hand, HTC is very good about releasing source for their devices when compared to Samsung, who rarely releases source code if at all (driver source). Plus, CM started on HTCs, and with every device using similar Qualcomm hardware, i can imagine it is easier to port to newer Qualcomm-equipped HTC devices. That said, it appears that HTC is beginning to implement software to prevent rooting on newer phones like the G2, so we may see more people moving towards the more open Samsung devices.

Finally, this is explained to me. Thanks!
Why do drivers need to be recompiled for each version of Android? Do they need to be recompiled for similar releases such as 2.0 and 2.1 or 2.3 and 2.4?

I'm not exactly an expert when it comes to the Linux architecture, so take the following with a grain of salt.
Anyways, I believe it has to do with the kernel, which should contain the device drivers. Now, kernels must indeed be recompiled for every android system update; this is why a 2.1 or 2.2 kernel will not work with the newer 2.3.x roms. The problem for us is that once Samsung stops releasing kernels/roms for the SGS series, devs will no longer have a base to build off of. Hopefully devs can make use of updates/drivers from the Nexus S to keep the SGS series up to date with CM.

qtilt ......... nicely explained

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qtilt ......... nicely explained
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I agree!

The main difference between CM/MIUI and the rest of the roms you see here on XDA is that CM/MIUI are built directly off of a Vanilla Froyo/Gingerbread. No extra flavorings or seasonings such as TouchWiz, HTC Sense, MotoBlur, Droid UI, etc. The use of, or misuse of, causes phones to run slower and do more work (unnecessarily) while it computes extra calculations of the UI. [EDIT]When developers BASE a rom off of a leak or pre-existing firmware it does not make it Vanilla just by removing TWiz or Sense or the rest of bloatware. Vanilla is generally the most simple a firmware can be, with no added extra-pazzaz[/EDIT]
There hasn't been a solid update to MIUI for our phone in a month, but CM has nightly builds and HOPEFULLY it has "cracked the shell," so to speak. Even if Samsung STOPS upgrading our firmware (which has already happened IMO), CyanogenMod makes their own code and develops independently without the use of previous stockpiles of code...which is why it's difficult at first to come up with their own driver source (because Samsung refuses to release ALL the sources needed). Hopefully our Vibrant is covered for the next 2.4 or 3.0 (3.1) update.

Samsung needs to continue to make money. They wouldn't if they let each phone update to the newest andros os. Not just samsung, any hardware company.
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Samsung needs to continue to make money. They wouldn't if they let each phone update to the newest android os. Not just Samsung, any hardware company.
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I disagree with this because, If Samsung released the code and people updated their phones as they liked and put different operating systems, roms as they liked. customer satisfaction would skyrocket. People would be more likely to buy new phones only from Samsung because they wanted the newest available hardware, read this as faster more flexible with more options.
but alas Samsung as with most of the manufacturers suffer from penny wise and dollar stupid syndrome and they end up being fairly low on the customer satisfaction scale another words they suck

rbcamping said:
I disagree with this because, If Samsung released the code and people updated their phones as they liked and put different operating systems, roms as they liked. customer satisfaction would skyrocket. People would be more likely to buy new phones only from Samsung because they wanted the newest available hardware, read this as faster more flexible with more options.
but alas Samsung as with most of the manufacturers suffer from penny wise and dollar stupid syndrome and they end up being fairly low on the customer satisfaction scale another words they suck
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As a hardware company customer satisfaction is one thing and making them buy more of their products is another. If your 4,5-years old phone can still upgrade to the newest OS why would you buy a new one? So there is a balance for them to keep, their want to make their customer happy with their product but not too happy so their stay with old product forever.
That's very much why samsung was hesitated about 2.3 upgrade for the galaxy line.

The future of the device has more to do with whether or not the developers stick with the device. With the SGS being an international phone there is a better chance of this happening, and samsung has started getting better with releasing their source. As mentioned earlier HTC is making devices harder to root, for example the HTC desire CDMA with 2.2 is impossible to root and the G2 was an annoyance.
Also samsung has released multiple phones that are very close to the Vibrant such as the Nexus S and the Vibrant 4g. The Nexus S will be updated for awhile and source will be released for it, so its something though not much. The Vibrant 4g will also hopefully be updated and that will hopefully be an easy port. Also 2.4 is very similar to 2.3 so that will hopefully be an easy update for the developers.
Basically as long as we have the awesome devs that we have and we dont flame everyone that the devs get tired of working with the phone then we will have a device that will be updated and beautiful.

I want a stock style gingerbread, and I hope a touchwiz themed CM7 coming out.

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I want a stock style gingerbread, and I hope a touchwiz themed CM7 coming out.
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I believe Krylon is working on Stock, as for a Twiz themed CM7 I ask why?

bearsfan85 said:
I believe Krylon is working on Stock, as for a Twiz themed CM7 I ask why?
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Ha, this is whats to come. CM7 hasn't arrived yet and now they want it with twiz. The ridding of twiz is part of what makes it great.
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joe.kerwin said:
Ha, this is whats to come. CM7 hasn't arrived yet and now they want it with twiz. The ridding of twiz is part of what makes it great.
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+1 agree 100%

bearsfan85 said:
The future of the device has more to do with whether or not the developers stick with the device. With the SGS being an international phone there is a better chance of this happening, and samsung has started getting better with releasing their source.
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Basically as long as we have the awesome devs that we have and we dont flame everyone that the devs get tired of working with the phone then we will have a device that will be updated and beautiful.
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Amen. Well stated.

Thinking ahead

Now that Samsung have released ICS for GS2, and Custom ROMs will now be ICS based (the majority, at least), this leads us to think... are these the last major OS updates Samsung will give our beloved GS2? Will we receive Jelly Bean, or, dare I say.. Key Lime Pie?

No is my guess. We may get a value pack!

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No is my guess. We may get a value pack!
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I agree, after seeing the fate of the Galaxy S.

We get directly a new phone delivered by samsung ceo
Galaxy S got Eclair froyo and GINGERBREAD so 3 os version
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I think there might be a possibility of jelly bean, I wouldn't rule it out just yet.

Red_Vex said:
We get directly a new phone delivered by samsung ceo
Galaxy S got Eclair froyo and GINGERBREAD so 3 os version
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Yes, but not only gingerbread, it got 2.3.3, 2.3.4, 2.3.5, 2.3.6 and 2.3.6 with a value pack, i consider that quite a lot of updates

Cant believe there is already talk about a next version... I KNEW this would start after the official ICS update would arive. People go crazy for months about something (ICS in this case) and after a few days or a week of having it, start dreaming about the next thing...
The next Android version is not even shown yet. After google shows it, add another 6 months. Then maybe, it will come to our Galaxy S II's.
It really depens on WHAT the next version of Android will be like. Some things may determin if our phone's will officialy get it or not.

XDA mark said:
Cant believe there is already talk about a next version... I KNEW this would start after the official ICS update would arive. People go crazy for months about something (ICS in this case) and after a few days or a week of having it, start dreaming about the next thing...
The next Android version is not even shown yet. After google shows it, add another 6 months. Then maybe, it will come to our Galaxy S II's.
It really depens on WHAT the next version of Android will be like. Some things may determin if our phone's will officialy get it or not.
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Just to add to that people forget that we have at current moment the best ****ing dual core android phone on the market. so if samsung does stop their support we are damn sure that we have the best devs around to still support our phone with whatever OS comes out in the coming year. Devs come and go but i have read a post by one of the most respectful devs around in these forums and he is staying put...so as long as we have him we have nothing to worry about..
Now as regarding new OS...Jelly Bean, Key Lime, Fruity Pebbles, Kung Pao Chicken or whatever you want to have *****es please....ICS has just arrived and not in full force yet and you lot talking about new OS...What in the freaking blue hell is wrong with you lot? lol enjoy the goodness of ICS and go away for your summer holidays, spring break or whatever and then think about the new OS when the time is right...Jesus

Some countries never got an official 2.3.6 update for the GSII.
Some carriers, like ZTA (Claro, Brazil) are way too damn stupid to allow for updates.

adam1460 said:
Now that Samsung have released ICS for GS2, and Custom ROMs will now be ICS based (the majority, at least), this leads us to think... are these the last major OS updates Samsung will give our beloved GS2? Will we receive Jelly Bean, or, dare I say.. Key Lime Pie?
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Stifler69 said:
Just to add to that people forget that we have at current moment the best ****ing dual core android phone on the market. so if samsung does stop their support we are damn sure that we have the best devs around to still support our phone with whatever OS comes out in the coming year. Devs come and go but i have read a post by one of the most respectful devs around in these forums and he is staying put...so as long as we have him we have nothing to worry about..
Now as regarding new OS...Jelly Bean, Key Lime, Fruity Pebbles, Kung Pao Chicken or whatever you want to have *****es please....ICS has just arrived and not in full force yet and you lot talking about new OS...What in the freaking blue hell is wrong with you lot? lol enjoy the goodness of ICS and go away for your summer holidays, spring break or whatever and then think about the new OS when the time is right...Jesus
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Kung pao chicken!!!!!!!!!! +1. Would evolve our phones!!!
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I hope that there will be still some development from Samsung, because the sources of them improve the developing of alternative Roms for the phones.
If i´m right we can see this by the ICS roms, for example missing kernal sources for video record and still waiting for other sources from samsung for developers.
But i worry about that this will not look like that. Maybe some value pack, like other mentioned.
Recording to the update policy i think maybe should choose a google phone next time ? :/

HD_ said:
I hope that there will be still some development from Samsung, because the sources of them improve the developing of alternative Roms for the phones.
If i´m right we can see this by the ICS roms, for example missing kernal sources for video record and still waiting for other sources from samsung for developers.
But i worry about that this will not look like that. Maybe some value pack, like other mentioned.
Recording to the update policy i think maybe should choose a google phone next time ? :/
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well people talking about development and saying that in the next year samsung will kinda fade away it's support for the s2 why are you people worrying. if you actually read you guys should know that the first galaxy s1...i mean i go onto the forums over there and they still have enough development still going on. the same goes for here.
yes there is a lot of hype around the galaxy s3 and i am pretty sure that alot of devs can not wait to get their hands on it. but i am still sure that alot of respectful devs will wait around till a phone and handset that is worth going for and that they know they will get support from google itself, to purchase one ie the next Nexus. the development and the manner they get the updates and sources for that handset is brilliant and amazing. so for me by the looks of it my s2 still has plenty of life and i hope i still be here helping people when jelly bean or fruity pebbles comes along..and then when the new nexus comes along i will be buying that to

There's not much to think about now. Seeing how fast mobile phones evolve, the SGS2 might not even have the appropriate hardware for a new OS. I'm thinking full HD and bigger screens, hovering over screen sensors, screen projection, using the phone as a desktop, 3D stuff...
I'm awaiting Ics, and if and when i'm tired of it, I am sure i'm tired of my phone as well and buy a new one. This is a phone for hardware enthusiasts, one and a half years is more than enough for me.

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well people talking about development and saying that in the next year samsung will kinda fade away it's support for the s2 why are you people worrying. if you actually read you guys should know that the first galaxy s1...i mean i go onto the forums over there and they still have enough development still going on. the same goes for here.
yes there is a lot of hype around the galaxy s3 and i am pretty sure that alot of devs can not wait to get their hands on it. but i am still sure that alot of respectful devs will wait around till a phone and handset that is worth going for and that they know they will get support from google itself, to purchase one ie the next Nexus. the development and the manner they get the updates and sources for that handset is brilliant and amazing. so for me by the looks of it my s2 still has plenty of life and i hope i still be here helping people when jelly bean or fruity pebbles comes along..and then when the new nexus comes along i will be buying that to
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Yes its true that there is still a huge continuing development for SGS1 and there is atm a huge development for SGS2 and i also think that the development will also last very long. Especially because there is enough power in the SGS2 ( Hardware) to get along with further Updates.
So yes i worry that samsung will stop the developing for the phone maybe,but i also know that other DEvs will not

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Simonetti2011 said:
Some countries never got an official 2.3.6 update for the GSII.
Some carriers, like ZTA (Claro, Brazil) are way too damn stupid to allow for updates.
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Lol for me in my country i got only one update wich is 2.3.3 we didnt recive aby update later than that .......
Im using odin to flash firmwares
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XDA mark said:
Cant believe there is already talk about a next version... I KNEW this would start after the official ICS update would arive. People go crazy for months about something (ICS in this case) and after a few days or a week of having it, start dreaming about the next thing...
The next Android version is not even shown yet. After google shows it, add another 6 months. Then maybe, it will come to our Galaxy S II's.
It really depens on WHAT the next version of Android will be like. Some things may determin if our phone's will officialy get it or not.
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I think we will. The Exynos + 1gb RAM is way ahead of it's time.

The Google upgrade agreement with all manufacturers is that all phones that are hardware capable will get upgrades for the first eighteen months from date of first sale of the model .
SGS2 3rd may 2012 .
Jellybean before Dec 2012 i would not think so .
jje

no way ,now new phones r online an wen a new model is out wiv jelly bean ,,,companies will force out an advertise tht phones so these old phones i don think ppl will remember...quad cores r already out