Don't know what's worse? - Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)

So I have been reading a few threads and started wondering what is worse. Waiting for a new phone to release or waiting for a new OS to drop. They both seem to inspire the same kind of sentiments. Right now everyone is angered about not having there phone yet, and next month it will be all about when is Samsung going to release an update for either issues the phone has or an outdated Os.
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Waiting on a physical device is much worse than waiting for a software update... Unless the phone if non operable without said software update.
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Ill rather buy a phone that comes with the latest OS than waiting on them to release a update to their current device list
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Ice Cream Sandwich is coming!

Google and Motorola and AT&T have partnered to bring quick and latest updates to the Atrix for 18 months past release date! That means we'll be getting all os updates between now Sept. 2012!
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In 18 months this phone is going to hopelessly old and outdated, no matter what software the release.
And I think that statement refereed to new phones.
There's another thread talking about this already. The answer is that it's not guaranteed. This only applies to NEW devices being released. Since the Atrix was release a couple of months back, this doesn't apply.
In 18 months it will be running the same version as brand new devices released during that time.
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Google and Motorola and AT&T have partnered to bring quick and latest updates to the Atrix for 18 months past release date! That means we'll be getting all os updates between now Sept. 2012!
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NOT TRUE! Watch it again, he said "..all new phones..". I would assume that means from today on out. They also used the words "hardware has to allow the update". So speculate all you want but dont post incorrect statements like they are fact.
Yeah I started my post, had to run and didn't know there was a similar post before I hit submit.
New and capable...atrix fits that bill.
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Let's all hope we get Ice Cream Sandwich.
http://briefmobile.com/android-ice-cream-sandwich-unites-phones-and-tablets-in-q4-2011
No. The Atrix doesn't. Is it capable? Probably, but it's definitely not new i.e. new and capable vs. new OR capable.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-clarifies-18-month-android-upgrade-program-details-far-f/
Here's an updated Engadget article. If you notice they specifically mention that this applies to new devices only. There's no guarantee ICS for the Atrix, unless Moto comes out and says it. Anyway, more clarification on this subject would be great.
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Theres no reason to worry if we get it or not. If we do then great. But why are we worrying about this when we havnt even gotten gingerbread. I'll be happy with a dual core friendly OS. By the time ICS is ready we will all be upgrading or upgraded already.
I think 18 months is when we are going to get the update
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I think 18 months is when we are going to get the update
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to 2.3
I'd be willing to bet 2.3 hits early to mid June. Not known fact but given the quickness they've already released updates for the Atrix, they really have little reason to hold out on this.
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I'd be willing to bet 2.3 hits early to mid June. Not known fact but given the quickness they've already released updates for the Atrix, they really have little reason to hold out on this.
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Would you be referring to 2.3 Gingerbread or ICS? Although google never gave ICS an official number (AFAIK), for all we know it'll be 2.3.X. If your referring to Gingerbread, that would make sense, in theory, but as Moto got Honeycomb early, for all we know they could have gotten ICS before Google oficially announced it and they could be putting the final touches on it right now. But that is all hopeful speculation.
More likely than not we'll get ICS around July to August.
Just my 2 cents.
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I bet I can have 2 kids with the same woman before we get 2 updates to the core android os.
God I hate all the naysayers always trying to be negitive. There is a very good chance that this will apply to us.
I think Atrix does fit the bill. When the SGS2 arrives on ATT ...that would be a "new" release. Does that mean GS2's hardware is that much newer than the Atrix? If the SGS2 gets these updates...I'm sure the Atrix will too...
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I wouldn't get too excited. They don't even know how they are going to accomplish this yet. It's nice to see an effort from carriers and Google, but this is just something they threw together to present at I/O. There are no details.
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More likely than not we'll get ICS around July to August.
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I need to amend what I said earlier. I have done a bit more research and have come to find ICS slated for Q4 so about then we should get ICS (October maybe? A birthday preasent for me? ). We *may* see GB in th July/August mark.
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Atrix hardware will clearly support it. There will be newer phones released in the next 6 months...and pretty sure the hardware won't be better than the Atrix. How many dual cores are on the market now? Moto set the bar with Atrix...upcoming phones are trying to match it or make it look "better" by overlooking their chips
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Upgrading from the X

I am eligible to upgrade my X but since I just rooted it (running Gummy ICS coming from .621), it feels like a new phone. I have been thinking of getting the Galaxy Nexus as my next device. Should I wait to see what's coming out later this year? Will the Nexus price come down this summer?
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If your content with your current device, I recommend waiting.
I think there might be some fairly good phones coming out this summer.
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I'm in the same boat, albeit running Liberty v3. What's the general feeling on the GNex? Seems buggy from what I've read, but the idea of not having to wait 6 months for updates to push out over carriers is appealing.
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ive got a gnex and LOVE it (no bugs here) but id definitely recommend waiting. this is approximately the worst time ever to buy a new phone...
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ive got a gnex and LOVE it (no bugs here) but id definitely recommend waiting. this is approximately the worst time ever to buy a new phone...
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I know right. I'm hoping that the Droid "Fighter" will release with an unlockable bootloader. Or maybe, some miracle, Verizon will the Galaxy S 3.
Although what I am really hoping for is for the Galaxy Note to come to Verizon as the Galaxy Journal, as it was rumored to a few months ago.
Verizon never gets any phone love.
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How long will we have to wait for 4.2??

Hi all,
the nexus 7 is my first nexus device (although I am drooling at the nexus 4 ),
but I was just wondering if anyone else, who has owned a different nexus device, could tell me how long you normally have to wait for the next version of android?.
Thanks in advance
Cheers
corey
Some of the features will be available on the Nexus 7, some won't and you'll need to get a whole new device costing a small fortune to get the full update. It might break things along the way without giving you a way back.
....but then I remember it's Android and not Apple!
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Some of the features will be available on the Nexus 7, some won't and you'll need to get a whole new device costing a small fortune to get the full update. It might break things along the way without giving you a way back.
....but then I remember it's Android and not Apple!
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..... I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say here.
Being part of the whole Nexus line, there's a good chance we'll get 4.2 pushed out when the Nexus 4 and 10 get released. Google will be keen to have its flagship line all under the same version.
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Kearkan said:
..... I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say here.
Being part of the whole Nexus line, there's a good chance we'll get 4.2 pushed out when the Nexus 4 and 10 get released. Google will be keen to have its flagship line all under the same version.
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I agree. Google made it pretty clear (to me at least) that the Nexus line will be receiving the 4.2 update. There was absolutely no mention of Nexus 7 not receiving certain aspects of the update. I would say that Nexus 7 would receive the update the same day the 4 and 10 are released as well.
littld said:
Some of the features will be available on the Nexus 7, some won't and you'll need to get a whole new device costing a small fortune to get the full update. It might break things along the way without giving you a way back.
....but then I remember it's Android and not Apple!
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This is a joke for you guys who don't get it. All Nexus devices get updated I think. I think even old ones like the Nexus S and all that.
Lol well if he meant it as a joke it didn't read like one. Especially since a new device owner was asking about something he deemed a legit concern. If it was meant as a joke then my fault.
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Lol well if he meant it as a joke it didn't read like one. Especially since a new device owner was asking about something he deemed a legit concern. If it was meant as a joke then my fault.
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I agree. Pretty dumb answer to someone asking a legitimate question.
Google was supposed to release the 4,2 update on October 29th, but according to Asus it has been delayed ever so slightly.Asus says to expect an update to android 4.2 very soon.
fishingfon said:
Hi all,
the nexus 7 is my first nexus device (although I am drooling at the nexus 4 ),
but I was just wondering if anyone else, who has owned a different nexus device, could tell me how long you normally have to wait for the next version of android?.
Thanks in advance
Cheers
corey
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3weeks
yousef8824 said:
3weeks
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I heard that the update will be released on the 14th of November. Custom roms will be updated in the same week probably
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Looking forward to it. People aren't used to nexus devices, they are used to their galaxy tabs that take forever to update and get cut off too soon
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Cor-master said:
Looking forward to it. People aren't used to nexus devices, they are used to their galaxy tabs that take forever to update and get cut off too soon
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My friend is still on stock N7 and got the update within a week. My dad is still on his stock S3 and the update won't come till next year.
Edit: I'm referring to 4.1.2 and 4.1.
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Apocalypse487 said:
My friend is still on stock N7 and got the update within a week. My dad is still on his stock S3 and the update won't come till next year.
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I think you are confusing 4.1.2 with 4.2.
As far as I know, no one will have 4.2 before 13 November.
rmm200 said:
I think you are confusing 4.1.2 with 4.2.
As far as I know, no one will have 4.2 before 13 November.
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I'm not confused. I'm confusing others. I meant to say the last update. I'll leave the correction under that post.
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Expect android 4.2 on November 11th to November 12th on the nexus 7
Hi,
Thanks heaps guys, as long as we with the n7 arnt left in the lurch for weeks after the update comes out on the n4
My friend has a nexus s, and he had to wait a few weeks after 4.1 was released before he got it, but our devices are newer I suppose
Thanks
Cheers
Corey
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Unless you sideload, don't expect it on the 13th. OTA rolling updates can take up to a couple of weeks.
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fishingfon said:
Hi all,
the nexus 7 is my first nexus device (although I am drooling at the nexus 4 ),
but I was just wondering if anyone else, who has owned a different nexus device, could tell me how long you normally have to wait for the next version of android?.
Thanks in advance
Cheers
corey
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Because you asked you can't have it until January of next year!
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heat361 said:
Google was supposed to release the 4,2 update on October 29th, but according to Asus it has been delayed ever so slightly.Asus says to expect an update to android 4.2 very soon.
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Got a reliable source on that? I'm guessing no because it's not true. Google has never released an OS on the day it was announced, and when they announce a new device, they never release the OS for older hardware until the new device is available. So the correct answer is to expect the update in the weeks following the N4/N10 release. Hopefully it will be out within a week, but it can take longer.
Google has said they will start rolling out 4.2 from Nov 11th, 2 days before new devices release.

Back on the update merry go round..!!

Dumped htc for saying an update would be released by certain time then waiting months...now with samsung they release an update in a couple of countries yet us in the UK still waiting a month later...? Why.??? Even my unlocked, unbranded note 2...!!!?????
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I'm on the same bandwagon. Don't worry. Samsung is a lot faster with updates than HTC. So I think you've picked the right company, but the GENERAL rule of thumb is that you should buy a phone and be happy with the software it comes with, and don't expect it to be updated. Regardless, Unlocked N7100 from Germany DBT and still nothing. I bought it based on the Note 1 which ALWAYS got the updates FIRST from DBT. Now other countries have received their update and I haven't yet. Oh well. I'm still terribly happy with this phone and software! I can't say that the update will make it much better xD It's fantastic just the way it is, but I'm an update junky! haha. So just sit back and relax It'll come.
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Dumped htc for saying an update would be released by certain time then waiting months...now with samsung they release an update in a couple of countries yet us in the UK still waiting a month later...? Why.??? Even my unlocked, unbranded note 2...!!!?????
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i love my GN2 but Samsung is a S**t company when it comes for updates,they never say anything what changes are made on Updates and they only do updates only in few countries which it barely sales the phone and not to the countries which they sold most
Tell me which phone manufacturer announce exactly when updates come? Moto is even worse based on ics update. When I got the phone it was mentioned all over the website promised ics update.
Then after almost a year they release a schedule for update which promises q1 2012.. End of q1 2012 came and all no update. A month later announced q2 2012. End of q2 came and gone. A month later the update finally came for me. At that time the is still many users without ics. Even today not all received their ics.
Btw the ics update made the phone laggy. Full reset removed the Laginess for a week or so before it came back. Don't tell me it's an app I instants because the only app installed then was line, whatsapp and tango. And mx player.
And this is supposed to be a ics phone. But quirks much better in gb.
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okuda1971 said:
Dumped htc for saying an update would be released by certain time then waiting months...now with samsung they release an update in a couple of countries yet us in the UK still waiting a month later...? Why.??? Even my unlocked, unbranded note 2...!!!?????
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In general, updates are delayed by carrier testing, so they can make sure it causes no issues on their network, but it takes even longer for unlocked/sim-free phones as they're tested on many more networks.
However I will say that if you're so adamant on getting updates ASAP you bought the wrong phone, the only phones you should look at for that are Nexus phones. Even those can have their updates significantly delayed by carrier testing though.
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Root ur phone. Get official updated firmware. Flash with odin. Done. Whats so hard.
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My point was the fact that the official update was released in a few countries about a month ago and yet nothing in the UK..? And yet Samsung has already started going on about the next update to be released in jan/feb !! We need this one first please..!!!
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My mrs s3 has 4.1.2 now!
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In general, updates are delayed by carrier testing, so they can make sure it causes no issues on their network, but it takes even longer for unlocked/sim-free phones as they're tested on many more networks.
However I will say that if you're so adamant on getting updates ASAP you bought the wrong phone, the only phones you should look at for that are Nexus phones. Even those can have their updates significantly delayed by carrier testing though.
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I don't really buy that story. For carrier phones yes but what about international nonbranded phones?
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I'd imagine that Samsung are doing a pilot release to a few countries first. If no major issues are reported then they release it to everyone else a short time later (like a month or so).
Makes sense really when you think about it, IMHO anyhow.
Btw waiting for the update here in Ireland too if it makes you feel any better
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Was the turnaround quick enough?

With 4.3 out now was the wait to long compared to nexus devices? I for one am completely satisfied that it didn't take to long.
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There was literally a week's turn around. How can anyone be unhappy with that? Fingers crossed that they keep it up. Any indication on if the update came from HTC or Google?
People are unhappy with the turn around on sense based roms. We haven't gotten one of those yet.
Porting aosp with some modifications to a device is relatively easy, especially if it's the manufacturer of the device.
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I was very shocked when it dropped on Friday. My wife's Nexus 7 didn't get it until last night.
I was so happy and surprised I decided to convert mine over to GPE rather than wait for sense version updates.
This was the fastest update I have ever received!!
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yea can't be mad with a 1 week turn around time on AOSP. I wonder what other changes they will do in the sense 4.3 update other than the 4.3 changes.
This is easily the most positive press HTC has EVER received regarding an update. Google/Samsung/HTC did a great job. Let's hope they keep it up.
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I was very surprised that they got 4.3 out so quickly.
Hats off to Google, Samsung and HTC for releasing 4.3 so quickly for these phones.
Very relieved to see the fast update on the gpe.
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Does it strike anyone else as surprising that HTC are so keen to update the google edition of their phones, but knowingly take forever to update sense. Or would this be some sort of software agreement with google?
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Does it strike anyone else as surprising that HTC are so keen to update the google edition of their phones, but knowingly take forever to update sense. Or would this be some sort of software agreement with google?
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I'm not making excuses for them... But it is way easier to update the vanilla android experience than it is to do the same for sense. They have to build and test sense on top of these updates. They still haven't updated all the unbranded unlocked devices or developer editions running sense.
Add carrier testing on top of that...
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I'm not making excuses for them... But it is way easier to update the vanilla android experience than it is to do the same for sense. They have to build and test sense on top of these updates. They still haven't updated all the unbranded unlocked devices or developer editions running sense.
Add carrier testing on top of that...
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Absolutely, but they're dealing with the problem that they created entirely on their own
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Absolutely, but they're dealing with the problem that they created entirely on their own
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Well everyone wants to be different with their skins.

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