Dumped htc for saying an update would be released by certain time then waiting months...now with samsung they release an update in a couple of countries yet us in the UK still waiting a month later...? Why.??? Even my unlocked, unbranded note 2...!!!?????
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I'm on the same bandwagon. Don't worry. Samsung is a lot faster with updates than HTC. So I think you've picked the right company, but the GENERAL rule of thumb is that you should buy a phone and be happy with the software it comes with, and don't expect it to be updated. Regardless, Unlocked N7100 from Germany DBT and still nothing. I bought it based on the Note 1 which ALWAYS got the updates FIRST from DBT. Now other countries have received their update and I haven't yet. Oh well. I'm still terribly happy with this phone and software! I can't say that the update will make it much better xD It's fantastic just the way it is, but I'm an update junky! haha. So just sit back and relax It'll come.
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Dumped htc for saying an update would be released by certain time then waiting months...now with samsung they release an update in a couple of countries yet us in the UK still waiting a month later...? Why.??? Even my unlocked, unbranded note 2...!!!?????
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i love my GN2 but Samsung is a S**t company when it comes for updates,they never say anything what changes are made on Updates and they only do updates only in few countries which it barely sales the phone and not to the countries which they sold most
Tell me which phone manufacturer announce exactly when updates come? Moto is even worse based on ics update. When I got the phone it was mentioned all over the website promised ics update.
Then after almost a year they release a schedule for update which promises q1 2012.. End of q1 2012 came and all no update. A month later announced q2 2012. End of q2 came and gone. A month later the update finally came for me. At that time the is still many users without ics. Even today not all received their ics.
Btw the ics update made the phone laggy. Full reset removed the Laginess for a week or so before it came back. Don't tell me it's an app I instants because the only app installed then was line, whatsapp and tango. And mx player.
And this is supposed to be a ics phone. But quirks much better in gb.
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Dumped htc for saying an update would be released by certain time then waiting months...now with samsung they release an update in a couple of countries yet us in the UK still waiting a month later...? Why.??? Even my unlocked, unbranded note 2...!!!?????
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In general, updates are delayed by carrier testing, so they can make sure it causes no issues on their network, but it takes even longer for unlocked/sim-free phones as they're tested on many more networks.
However I will say that if you're so adamant on getting updates ASAP you bought the wrong phone, the only phones you should look at for that are Nexus phones. Even those can have their updates significantly delayed by carrier testing though.
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Root ur phone. Get official updated firmware. Flash with odin. Done. Whats so hard.
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My point was the fact that the official update was released in a few countries about a month ago and yet nothing in the UK..? And yet Samsung has already started going on about the next update to be released in jan/feb !! We need this one first please..!!!
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My mrs s3 has 4.1.2 now!
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In general, updates are delayed by carrier testing, so they can make sure it causes no issues on their network, but it takes even longer for unlocked/sim-free phones as they're tested on many more networks.
However I will say that if you're so adamant on getting updates ASAP you bought the wrong phone, the only phones you should look at for that are Nexus phones. Even those can have their updates significantly delayed by carrier testing though.
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I don't really buy that story. For carrier phones yes but what about international nonbranded phones?
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I'd imagine that Samsung are doing a pilot release to a few countries first. If no major issues are reported then they release it to everyone else a short time later (like a month or so).
Makes sense really when you think about it, IMHO anyhow.
Btw waiting for the update here in Ireland too if it makes you feel any better
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Just wanted to say that I'm sick and tired of waiting on froyo, everyone has already gotten it or is in the process of getting it. Even the mytouch3g. Anyone who knows any valuable information on this please post and let us know. And by valuable info I mean when we will be getting it
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Well apparently we are getting it next month sometime.
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Well apparently we are getting it next month sometime.
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Says who? The Europe upgrades are getting pushed back till next month, and our will come well after that.
Samsung tweeted that froyo updates will roll out in November and all phones should have it by end of November.
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This is true. Its reported on engadget today that the initial froyo updates where pulled due to "not awesomeness" but that Samsung promised increased performance along with all the other good **** that is froyo
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Samsung tweeted that froyo updates will roll out in November and all phones should have it by end of November.
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Nevermind, read the new post
Well then, a new post is up from Engadget. This one does sound good
Our update will come from Verizon, not Samsung, so ignore any and all release dates in press releases from Samsung that do not mention Verizon or the Fascinate by name.
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Our update will come from Verizon, not Samsung, so ignore any and all release dates in press releases from Samsung that do not mention Verizon or the Fascinate by name.
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The update may come from Verizon, but I'm guessing that they give Samsung a list of what they want the update to include (bloatware, settings, etc.) and Samsung is the one responsible for getting the update out with Verizon's specs. While I'd agree that you can't believe it until it's mentioned specifically, if they say all carriers and actually mean it, then it's better than nothing.
So after much thought I have decided to at least keep this phone until LTE. It has probably the most truly capable hardware ever put n a phone. The CPU/ Gpu is great. The camera/ camcorder is second only to iPhone. Screen is great. But Samsung lack of support for their products is discouraging at the least. The phone came out after phones with froyo(D2 ) had already launched. I love this phone. See why people hate Samsung
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If we are rooted, will the update take without doing something special?
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more than likely not. As I am sure you have removed the bloatware. In all I would say the easiest thing would be to Odin back to stock with Odin(when the update comes). That would ne the easiest.
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Google and Motorola and AT&T have partnered to bring quick and latest updates to the Atrix for 18 months past release date! That means we'll be getting all os updates between now Sept. 2012!
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In 18 months this phone is going to hopelessly old and outdated, no matter what software the release.
And I think that statement refereed to new phones.
There's another thread talking about this already. The answer is that it's not guaranteed. This only applies to NEW devices being released. Since the Atrix was release a couple of months back, this doesn't apply.
In 18 months it will be running the same version as brand new devices released during that time.
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Google and Motorola and AT&T have partnered to bring quick and latest updates to the Atrix for 18 months past release date! That means we'll be getting all os updates between now Sept. 2012!
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NOT TRUE! Watch it again, he said "..all new phones..". I would assume that means from today on out. They also used the words "hardware has to allow the update". So speculate all you want but dont post incorrect statements like they are fact.
Yeah I started my post, had to run and didn't know there was a similar post before I hit submit.
New and capable...atrix fits that bill.
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Let's all hope we get Ice Cream Sandwich.
http://briefmobile.com/android-ice-cream-sandwich-unites-phones-and-tablets-in-q4-2011
No. The Atrix doesn't. Is it capable? Probably, but it's definitely not new i.e. new and capable vs. new OR capable.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-clarifies-18-month-android-upgrade-program-details-far-f/
Here's an updated Engadget article. If you notice they specifically mention that this applies to new devices only. There's no guarantee ICS for the Atrix, unless Moto comes out and says it. Anyway, more clarification on this subject would be great.
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Theres no reason to worry if we get it or not. If we do then great. But why are we worrying about this when we havnt even gotten gingerbread. I'll be happy with a dual core friendly OS. By the time ICS is ready we will all be upgrading or upgraded already.
I think 18 months is when we are going to get the update
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to 2.3
I'd be willing to bet 2.3 hits early to mid June. Not known fact but given the quickness they've already released updates for the Atrix, they really have little reason to hold out on this.
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I'd be willing to bet 2.3 hits early to mid June. Not known fact but given the quickness they've already released updates for the Atrix, they really have little reason to hold out on this.
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Would you be referring to 2.3 Gingerbread or ICS? Although google never gave ICS an official number (AFAIK), for all we know it'll be 2.3.X. If your referring to Gingerbread, that would make sense, in theory, but as Moto got Honeycomb early, for all we know they could have gotten ICS before Google oficially announced it and they could be putting the final touches on it right now. But that is all hopeful speculation.
More likely than not we'll get ICS around July to August.
Just my 2 cents.
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I bet I can have 2 kids with the same woman before we get 2 updates to the core android os.
God I hate all the naysayers always trying to be negitive. There is a very good chance that this will apply to us.
I think Atrix does fit the bill. When the SGS2 arrives on ATT ...that would be a "new" release. Does that mean GS2's hardware is that much newer than the Atrix? If the SGS2 gets these updates...I'm sure the Atrix will too...
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I wouldn't get too excited. They don't even know how they are going to accomplish this yet. It's nice to see an effort from carriers and Google, but this is just something they threw together to present at I/O. There are no details.
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More likely than not we'll get ICS around July to August.
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I need to amend what I said earlier. I have done a bit more research and have come to find ICS slated for Q4 so about then we should get ICS (October maybe? A birthday preasent for me? ). We *may* see GB in th July/August mark.
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Atrix hardware will clearly support it. There will be newer phones released in the next 6 months...and pretty sure the hardware won't be better than the Atrix. How many dual cores are on the market now? Moto set the bar with Atrix...upcoming phones are trying to match it or make it look "better" by overlooking their chips
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As the title says read here. Only 6 to 8 weeks.
S3 users have to wait till january!
It is Optus so there is a chance we'll be waiting until then also. My old Incredible S' ICS update was pushed back by months.
Samsung seem always delay...
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Samsung seem always delay...
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Motorola is by far the worst company on bring updates on time...in fact some updates never come, like ICS for Motorola Atrix (I´m still waiting for it). So I rather wait for some weeks than never get the update.
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Motorola is by far the worst company on bring updates on time...in fact some updates never come, like ICS for Motorola Atrix (I´m still waiting for it). So I rather wait for some weeks than never get the update.
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LG is also worse. A lot updates never come. They are forgetting their other flagships.
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Motorola is by far the worst company on bring updates on time...in fact some updates never come, like ICS for Motorola Atrix (I´m still waiting for it). So I rather wait for some weeks than never get the update.
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Hi Cocolopes, I ditched the atrix for the note II after they cancelled that bloody update! Haha came to the note forums.
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Samsung seem always delay...
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But this is the date the carrier plans to release the update, it's not on Samsung's side. So if they plan to push the update on December the official release from Samsung (unbranded devices) should be before that. November?
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But this is the date the carrier plans to release the update, it's not on Samsung's side. So if they plan to push the update on December the official release from Samsung (unbranded devices) should be before that. November?
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Exactly! It must be at least a month prior to carrier update because carriers have to customize ROM with their wallpaper, bootanimation (at least) etc. And since we have new leak, I am afraid we will get nothing new (camera, etc) since there is not enough time... Let's just hope I'm wrong
I would stick Clear of any Optus Firmware it's over bloated with very nasty apps – that install before first boot. Horrendously ugly custom app icons. In fact Optus 4.3 vs. Official Stock 4.3 is using over 330MB of RAM usage out the box.
Or do you think we will have to wait for custom roms?
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until someone compiled the build for the device
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until someone compiled the build for the device
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Safe to assume that we would most likely lose the Touchwiz stuff and S-Pen features? Pretty much go stock 4.4?
some of the under-the-hood improvements in 4.4 are pretty interesting/exciting.
but Samsung is gonna take ages.. probably
(I only need the Spen...)
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some of the under-the-hood improvements in 4.4 are pretty interesting/exciting.
but Samsung is gonna take ages.. probably
(I only need the Spen...)
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I think the Note 2 people are still waiting for 4.3 ...... So I think we'll have a long wait unless you go custom.
Until Note 5 release, Samsung after sale service is horrible. Don't dream about you will get KitKat within a year.
-Kitkat will be on S5 or Note 4.
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Until Note 5 release, Samsung after sale service is horrible. Don't dream about you will get KitKat within a year.
-Kitkat will be on S5 or Note 4.
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Not really fair to be honest. Every Samsung device I've had got at least 1 major update within a few months of its release. It's the the older devices, ie note 2, s3 that will wait ages or not get it. The S4 + Note 3 will get kit kat by January if history repeats. Also in the past Samsung have denied updates to older devices due to hardware limits, Google are claiming kit kat can run happy on 512mb Ram so who knows, maybe old devices might just get a break (pun intended, sorry )
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Until Note 5 release, Samsung after sale service is horrible. Don't dream about you will get KitKat within a year.
-Kitkat will be on S5 or Note 4.
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This.
As always, samsung is super slow with updates, so don't bother in at least 6 or 7 months, and even with that, the note line is never the first one, so probably S4 and S5 will get 4.4 2 or 3 months before the note.
Saw someone quote a samsung rep tweet about them being more concerned about getting most of the older devices to 4.3 first. And about note 3 having to wait at least 2 months for 4.4
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on other news, HTC pledges to get 4.4 out to its HTC One in 90 days, Google Play Edition, in 15 days...
would be nice if Samsung could make and keep to a similar commitment
This is one thing, coming from iOS which is absolutely mind blowing how Samsung doesn't give a rats ass about being up to date. Why own a Android device that runs old software 1 month after buying it and not be allowed to update it.
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i dont think its going to be within a month but i ve had all the notes so far. i717 original galaxy note shipped with gingerbread(2.3)
got updated to ice cream sandwhich 4.0.4( i believe) and than got updated to jellybean 4.1.2
note 2 was ics→4.1→4.3 coming in next month
the updates come but they are slow......But we do have a secret weapon... XDA woot woot!
I wish it was faster but to be honest doesnt really matter to me since im just gong to mess with
They did sell a significantly larger amount of Note 3's in a much shorter period than previous Note devices. So who knows? We had 4.3 well before the flagship S4...
As for the N2 (and S3) still lagging behind, that's because they skipped 4.2.
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...Google are claiming kit kat can run happy on 512mb Ram so who knows, maybe old devices might just get a break (pun intended, sorry )
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yet...G refused to update the gnex to 4.4 it doesnt matter if the new OS version will work on the phone, what matters is do they still wanna support an old phone
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yet...G refused to update the gnex to 4.4 it doesnt matter if the new OS version will work on the phone, what matters is do they still wanna support an old phone
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To quote Engadget :
Update: There's still no official word on why this is the case, but sources close to the company have pointed the finger at a different hardware issue on the Galaxy Nexus: its Texas Instruments-built chipset. The company is out of the mobile business and as such isn't in a great position to give the support necessary for continuing OS upgrades -- presumably some of those 1,700 employees let go in the shift away from mobile could have helped. Now we'll have to see if the community can pick up where the corporations left off or if this is the end of the road for the Gnex and its other OMAP-based kin like last year's Kindle Fire HD, Nook HD and Droid Bionic.
Seeing as we're talking Samsung devices here, I think we should be ok
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i dont think its going to be within a month but i ve had all the notes so far. i717 original galaxy note shipped with gingerbread(2.3)
got updated to ice cream sandwhich 4.0.4( i believe) and than got updated to jellybean 4.1.2
note 2 was ics→4.1→4.3 coming in next month
the updates come but they are slow......But we do have a secret weapon... XDA woot woot!
I wish it was faster but to be honest doesnt really matter to me since im just gong to mess with
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The note 2 actually came shipped with 4.1 jb.
I don't really know about the fuzz with updates. It's not like apple pushes em out on a monthly basis, only when needed. Same for Samsung, people should stop whining about fast updates, making them work etc takes a lot of time. If they release it early and there are a few bugs people will whine about that.
If the phone works and it does very smoothly here under 4.3 why do you instantly need an update?
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Could someone (in theory) create a stock google 4.4 rom for our Note 3?
I know stuff like eye detection and the S-Pen and god knows what else wouldn't work..
AOSP roms won't be out for a while until Samsung gives the community the binary drivers.
Samsung are slow at doing, only in Oct did they release the binaries for S4 6 months after release.
In theory you can download 4.4 and cook your own rom but without drivers from Samsung it won't be stable or certain hardware will not work at all.
If you want the latest and greatest Andriod then you should have brought a Nexus phone.
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I dont think we will get 4.3 until january as xmas is coming up and samsung want to sell as many n3s before sending us any updates. I love my n2 but im considering buying a n3 just for 4.3. I know it sounds lame but im just tired of waiting
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I dont think we will get 4.3 until january as xmas is coming up and samsung want to sell as many n3s before sending us any updates. I love my n2 but im considering buying a n3 just for 4.3. I know it sounds lame but im just tired of waiting
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If tied, flesh Wanam or DN3 ROM
Stable and fast, Android 4.3
I use Wanam the latest since he made it, long time and solid work!
Is dn3 a tw rom? Is it n7105 compatible? I cant lose wifi
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Try skynote in att section. Everything but wifi works
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You should wish for something better than a minor update to your phone for Christmas.
Just saying
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Is dn3 a tw rom? Is it n7105 compatible? I cant lose wifi
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Dn3 is a touchwiz rom and it works perfect ( works better than 4.1.2).i don't think that could be compatible with n7105 and for wifi issue there's a fix on dr ketan's forum
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Ditto @Markbaja, I CBA to reread the op but why did you even care about the update? I'm 95% sure this is a troll, unless you forgot to mention you already bought a galaxy gear...
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I dont think we will get 4.3 until january as xmas is coming up and samsung want to sell as many n3s before sending us any updates. I love my n2 but im considering buying a n3 just for 4.3. I know it sounds lame but im just tired of waiting
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Yah me to. I bet me too even on febuary. I will never see:good: to slow update
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I dont think we will get 4.3 until january as xmas is coming up and samsung want to sell as many n3s before sending us any updates. I love my n2 but im considering buying a n3 just for 4.3. I know it sounds lame but im just tired of waiting
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Ok, so you want to support this fuc..king behaviour of Samsung by buying another phone from them....great idea....
The Note 1 got the 4.1 update around August or June if I'm not mistaken, while the Note 2 released in September last year.
The Note 3 released in September this year, luckily we've seen leaks or I would assume a similar timeline.
Surprising the S3 already has 4.3 rolling out before we do, they've already seen a major update, while all we got was 4.1.1 -> 4.1.2.
Granted, it sold in vastly larger quantities.
Even lower devices like the Grand, Mega have already seen major updates to 4.2.2 in their relatively short lifespan.
/frustration.