[Q] ¡HELP! stupid question, but significant question. - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hi all.
i've just unmounted the housing cover of defy for repair the digitizer with new one (full digitizer), and so I checked out a small rectangular rubber, this one to be exact. I don't know from which place of the housing it came. you have no idea where it may come from?
I thought it was a stupid question, but for me is very important to remount all things because I want to make sure that the waterproof cranksets are all in their place.

i think they come from the ambient light sensor. can you confirm this conjecture?

I watched at mine on the glass and it seem to come from ambient light sensor and notification led.

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camera problem... please help...

guys i have a really bad problem with my camera...
since yesterday i have two big black flakes on my photos (and on viewport too!)
i reverted to jm8 using odin...
then i dissembled the device to see if the problem is on cameras cover but even without that glass part those flakes are still there...
does anybody have any idea?
i think i need to send it to service
this is how it looks like now:
http://img291.imageshack.us/i/20110321005202.jpg/
anybody.. :S
Dust specs on the camera sensor, chances are the sensor and lens autofocus assembly are a sealed unit making it hard to clean, if they are not sealed a good blow with a rocket blower would shift them.
Other wise either send it in for service or give the phone a few sort sharp knocks on the palm of your hand along the oposite edge from where the dust apears. The sensor is mirrored so what apears bottom left is actually top right.
thank you steph that makes sense...
how can i find cameras sensor to clean it?
i don't think the dust is on the len right?
The actual dust specs will probably be about .5mm in size its possible they are on the lens but i would put money on the sensor. Aim the camera at a bright suface in macro mode such as a white computer screen with a black dot to help focus. Give the phone a few knocks and see if it shifts any, repeat process a few times. If nothing moves then either dissasemble or send it in. Remember opening the unit up could introduce more dust.
The sensor is located directly behind the lens, it is would have a Glass filter over it NEVER EVER touch it with anything if you dont know exactly what you are doing. I would imagine it is about the same size as the glass cover (probably smaller) dust will be attracted to it like a magnet, you could try a rocket blower, or canned air ( no more than 2 sprays or it will ice up.
Dont get me wrong its very easy to clean but super easy to scratch with even the best cloth.
i tried to knock on it but nothing moved
i guess im gonna try a rocket blower or something like that. honestly i don't want to send it in...
btw thank you very much for your help steph.

Display raises in corner

Hi,
On my Galaxy S2 the screen:
On the botom right corner the display is not lower than the bezel anymore.
It is raised a bit and if i push on it it goes back a little bit. In addition to that some light leaks out at the bezel.
Does someone else have this Problem? Is this a reason to have it replaced?
Haven't heard of anyone else with this problem. Sounds like the screen is coming loose. I would be returning it if it was mine
I noticed a couple of days ago that mine is doing exactly the same thing. I assume it must be something to do with where the adhesive which holds the screen in place is situated. I'm concerned that dust and dirt are going to get inside the casing and possibly make it worse.
^^ I stand corrected
wow, light leak? :O thats a first... got any pictures?
Guys, if there is no user-inflicted damage on your phones, but the screen is really loose and not properly glued - exchange the phones ASAP!! No need to put up with this defect if you can exchange.
Just make sure the damage will not be blamed on you dropping the phone (no scuff marks on it).
besides this issue it is in perfect condition so no reason for them not to return it. ill head to saturn right now. but i`ll try to grab a picture of the light leak for you. in reality it is much more visible than on the photo (sorry for the bad quality i had to take my laptop camera and hide under my blanket^^)
It looks similar to what happened to Google IO Galaxy Tabs a while ago: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...l-edition-tablets-experiencing-screen-defects
This is not good
its exactly the same issue as the one you posted
I had the same problem with my SGS2, except the display rose above the surrounding rim at the center left and right part of the display (the center of the vertical edges). I think if I would turn my phone over to mute it, it would scratch because the surrounding rim doesn't protect it anymore.
Anyway, I already returned my phone because of this and other problems (yellow left side, pink spot, ...).
My screen seems to be a bit raised on the center left. Its not much and only noticed it because of this thread. Anyone have their screen slightly raised in certain areas? Is there something potentially wrong with me phone?
I do not get any light leakage or anything.

Looking for some hi-res pics of Aria

I'm replacing the digitizer and some small (1x1 mm) small rubber housing fell from somewhere. I'm trying to figure out where it belongs.
does anyone have somewhere good and clear pictures of the Aria disassembled ? maybe I can find out from the pics where to put it.
thx.
CaptainMaki said:
I'm replacing the digitizer and some small (1x1 mm) small rubber housing fell from somewhere. I'm trying to figure out where it belongs.
does anyone have somewhere good and clear pictures of the Aria disassembled ? maybe I can find out from the pics where to put it.
thx.
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I don't have pics, but my guess would be that it goes around the ambient light sensor so it doesn't get light leaked into it from the display's backlight. I think I remember seeing something along those lines in one of the posts about replacing the digitizer fairly recently. check the parts/accessories forum for threads on digitizer replacement.
Great! this was exactly it. I've kind of missed it cause I've thought it fell from the bottom part of the phone.
I just need to find a pic to see I've placed it ok.
this small rubber is cover of proximity sensor..
u can replacing this rubber with fat double tape
i also using this double tape to replace the rubber

A fix for Proximity sensor issues on replacement screens

Hey everyone, recently I have been facing a lot of issues with the 'ghost screen' issues on my digitizier and my battery became inflated as well.
You can read about that sad story here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/nexus-4-touchscreen-issues-t2712807
So about 3 days back I went out and bought a new Frame+Display/Digitizier and a new Battery.
Everything was great except for the proximity sensor.
It keeps on turning off the screen during a call because the sensor thinks its covered up.
A bit if googling and I can see that this is a common issue with people who have done a screen change.
The thing is that the fix is pretty simple. All I did was that I took off the back cover and the plastic frame on top of the motherboard and placed a small folded sheet of paper behind the sensor module. I then reinstalled the plastic frame and the glass back. The sensor now works perfectly.
The thing is that I guess the sensor became a little loose and the air gap between the proximity sensor and the front glass resulted in a faulty sensor reading.
The paper presses the sensor module down and eliminates the gap between the sensor and the front glass, thus fixing the problem.
If you dont have a warranty and really want to fix your phone easily, try it.
It took me about 3 minutes to do the whole thing.
Akash434 said:
Hey everyone, recently I have been facing a lot of issues with the 'ghost screen' issues on my digitizier and my battery became inflated as well.
You can read about that sad story here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/nexus-4-touchscreen-issues-t2712807
So about 3 days back I went out and bought a new Frame+Display/Digitizier and a new Battery.
Everything was great except for the proximity sensor.
It keeps on turning off the screen during a call because the sensor thinks its covered up.
A bit if googling and I can see that this is a common issue with people who have done a screen change.
The thing is that the fix is pretty simple. All I did was that I took off the back cover and the plastic frame on top of the motherboard and placed a small folded sheet of paper behind the sensor module. I then reinstalled the plastic frame and the glass back. The sensor now works perfectly.
The thing is that I guess the sensor became a little loose and the air gap between the proximity sensor and the front glass resulted in a faulty sensor reading.
The paper presses the sensor module down and eliminates the gap between the sensor and the front glass, thus fixing the problem.
If you dont have a warranty and really want to fix your phone easily, try it.
It took me about 3 minutes to do the whole thing.
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I replaced my glass, and I decided upon the exact same solution, which also worked for me.
Great advice! I recommend it.
James

Iffy Proximity Sensor

Hi All
Picked up a Nexus 4 a few days ago and only just noticed (as result of a call) that the proximity sensor is reporting that its "blocked" at all times, so the phone things its against my head. I can workaround this by using the "Power button to hang Up" option but at present cannot access any in call features.
When I look under good light the sensor, there are 2 areas so not sure which is the sensor, I can see what looks like a bubble under both. if you imagine what an air pocket looks like under a screen protector thats what it looks like but its behind the glass, perfectly centred. I guess its possible that something has broken here as a result of the drop, the top left corner was the point of impact, does that seem likely?
I got the phone cheap as it had a broke screen so have a new one coming. Its the full screen, glass and digitizer. Does anyone know of the sensor is part of the screen or does it sit behind and then I could be really screwed!
Ta
bert682 said:
Hi All
Picked up a Nexus 4 a few days ago and only just noticed (as result of a call) that the proximity sensor is reporting that its "blocked" at all times, so the phone things its against my head. I can workaround this by using the "Power button to hang Up" option but at present cannot access any in call features.
When I look under good light the sensor, there are 2 areas so not sure which is the sensor, I can see what looks like a bubble under both. if you imagine what an air pocket looks like under a screen protector thats what it looks like but its behind the glass, perfectly centred. I guess its possible that something has broken here as a result of the drop, the top left corner was the point of impact, does that seem likely?
I got the phone cheap as it had a broke screen so have a new one coming. Its the full screen, glass and digitizer. Does anyone know of the sensor is part of the screen or does it sit behind and then I could be really screwed!
Ta
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Ok so I did a little more reading and it seems that a gorilla has changed the screen on this phone in the past and he / she has used compound to stick the screen down and some of it has gone around the sensor and the resulting press down on the screen has created a few air pockets.
Looking less forward to changing the screen now as no doubt with my luck the "technician" will have used some crazy heat resistant glue!
Also....missing the speaker grille....funny how you only notice things after you have bought them!
Search for proximity sensor fix after screen replacement here on xda. I've found out that if you switch sides of the little rubber /plastic cover that covers the proximity sensor, your problem will be solved. And the light sensor will work with no problems as well.
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Sp_Ark said:
Search for proximity sensor fix after screen replacement here on xda. I've found out that if you switch sides of the little rubber /plastic cover that covers the proximity sensor, your problem will be solved. And the light sensor will work with no problems as well.
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Really?
From reading the thing to do is either make the height of the bushing a little larger, height wise. Or, to increase the diameter of the holes.
I like your fix the best though....no messing about, just rotate.
Will give it a go, thanks!
It will work for sure, I posted this fix on a YouTube screen replacement guide of octopus glues I think and its confirmed to work from a lot of people. Then if you use a custom rom go to brightness settings while having auto brightness enabled and try changing light sources from dark to very bright places to see the instant lux values you get. If you are not satisfied with the result try custom auto brightness values.
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bert682 said:
Really?
From reading the thing to do is either make the height of the bushing a little larger, height wise. Or, to increase the diameter of the holes.
I like your fix the best though....no messing about, just rotate.
Will give it a go, thanks!
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Yep, I discovered this "fix" in a random youtube comment (was that you @Sp_Ark?) just a few days ago, and it worked for me. Then I found a thread here that confirmed that this could be a solution (which could have saved me a week of frustration).
If there's actually something on the proximity sensor, then you might be screwed. Well, not really, or $10 from China. The module is a snap-in piece with connector ribbon that also has the headphone jack. The prox sensor is the smaller one on the right side (when looking at the screen).
Disassembly of the Nexus 4 is pretty simple compared to many other smartphones. You'll need a T5 TORX wrench/bit for the screws at the bottom, and a very small Phillips driver for all the screws in the inside. You'll also need a tool to split the 2 halves apart (your screen replacement might have come with tools). You can find a couple videos on youtube, as well as a detailed teardown (pics) at ifixit.com. If you have a hairdryer (or an actual heat gun) you can make the process easier by softening the glue with heat, but it's not absolutely necessary. Just go slowly and be careful when prying the halves apart so you don't flex it too much and break the glass back.
Which screen assembly did you get? You can get it where it's just the LCD and the digitizer, and you can also get it that has the bezel and speaker with it. When I replaced the screen on my N4, I got the whole deal with the bezel and speaker, since it meant less work and fewer things to screw up.
Planterz said:
Yep, I discovered this "fix" in a random youtube comment (was that you @Sp_Ark?) just a few days ago, and it worked for me. Then I found a thread here that confirmed that this could be a solution (which could have saved me a week of frustration).
If there's actually something on the proximity sensor, then you might be screwed. Well, not really, or $10 from China. The module is a snap-in piece with connector ribbon that also has the headphone jack. The prox sensor is the smaller one on the right side (when looking at the screen).
Disassembly of the Nexus 4 is pretty simple compared to many other smartphones. You'll need a T5 TORX wrench/bit for the screws at the bottom, and a very small Phillips driver for all the screws in the inside. You'll also need a tool to split the 2 halves apart (your screen replacement might have come with tools). You can find a couple videos on youtube, as well as a detailed teardown (pics) at ifixit.com. If you have a hairdryer (or an actual heat gun) you can make the process easier by softening the glue with heat, but it's not absolutely necessary. Just go slowly and be careful when prying the halves apart so you don't flex it too much and break the glass back.
Which screen assembly did you get? You can get it where it's just the LCD and the digitizer, and you can also get it that has the bezel and speaker with it. When I replaced the screen on my N4, I got the whole deal with the bezel and speaker, since it meant less work and fewer things to screw up.
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I got a "kit" off eBay, [URL="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181144377215?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181144377215?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT so it appears to be the complete screen. Ive watched a few videos but from the pictures it looks like the screen comes with the metal backing so I suspect I dont need to remove the old screen from the casing, thoughts?
Im expecting this to be the screen, bezel, and metal backing so I need to do is connect in my motherboard and all the other components.
Am I off in thinking this?
That's the full part. The one you've posted is the type I usually go for, they're good quality so far.
bert682 said:
I got a "kit" off eBay, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181144377215?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT so it appears to be the complete screen. Ive watched a few videos but from the pictures it looks like the screen comes with the metal backing so I suspect I dont need to remove the old screen from the casing, thoughts?
Im expecting this to be the screen, bezel, and metal backing so I need to do is connect in my motherboard and all the other components.
Am I off in thinking this?
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You made a wise choice, young padawan.
Yeah, that looks to be the entire front assembly, including the screen+digitizer, already installed in the bezel. Also includes the earpiece plus the speaker grill that you're missing. You'll have to swap over the guts, and that's about it. It's easiest to swap the power and volume rocker buttons first since it's a bit harder to get them where they go if you've got the logic board in the way. Just remember that the contact points need to make a ^ rather than a v when you're assembling it with the screen facing down. Tweezers are good to have, especially if they're very long and even better if they're curved. I also recommend doing this over a clean towel to avoid scratching the screen (there'll probably be a film over it too), and the fluffier the towel the better, to catch the tiny screws from flying and disappearing.
Honestly, getting the 2 halves apart is probably the hardest part. They make specialized tools for this, and often the sellers will include them, but it doesn't look like your purchase includes them (mine didn't either). Something plastic is the best choice, since you're less likely to cause cosmetic damage to the plastic (especially the bezel) if you slip (and you will slip). As I said before, GO SLOWLY. Work it apart a little bit at a time, alternate side to side, starting from the bottom. Eventually you'll be able to pull the 2 halves apart.
The battery will be stuck in pretty good and will need to be pried out. If I were you (and a week or so ago, I was you), I'd pop a new battery in while you're at it. At this point in the phone's life, it's probably had at least a few hundred cycles on the battery and has lost 10-20% of its original capacity. The other components shouldn't be nearly as hard to get out. Just pry in various points until the piece pops out. Do not force anything. Just work it out slowly. After you pop off the piece that covers the USB port, there's the board that has the port, and that can be slightly tricky to get out. Best way I found is to slip something small and flat (screwdriver?) into the port and push up and out, and the board should come out easily.
Thankfully, there's only 3 different screws used, and they're all easily differentiated from each other. There's the 2 T5 TORX that hold the halves together, the 2 very short screws with wide heads that hold the battery in place, and the rest that hold everything else are all identical to each other.
It looks like on your assembly, it comes with its own adhesives. Everywhere there's a blue film, pull it off and there'll be adhesive underneath. I'd recommend leaving the film on over the part where the sensor/headphone jack module goes until you're sure you can stick it in place with the proximity sensor not acting wonky. Download an app (I used Phone Tester) that can read the prox sensor. FYI, as long as everything is in place, and you've attached the battery, you can boot the phone without replacing the back cover, and test the sensor (just depress the center bit of the power button board). You don't need to screw everything in, but you should at least screw and tighten down the few that surround the sensor area. Once you've got it reading properly (best of luck), it's time to put all back together.
You should familiarize yourself with the teardown/reassembly guides out there. Go to ifixit.com and have everything ready to look at. This is the video that I used to guide me, and I watched it through a few times before I attempted it myself. You should be just fine with your phone after familiarizing yourself, but if you have any specific problems or questions, feel free to ask, and I'm all too happy to help.
Planterz said:
You made a wise choice, young padawan.
Yeah, that looks to be the entire front assembly, including the screen+digitizer, already installed in the bezel. Also includes the earpiece plus the speaker grill that you're missing. You'll have to swap over the guts, and that's about it. It's easiest to swap the power and volume rocker buttons first since it's a bit harder to get them where they go if you've got the logic board in the way. Just remember that the contact points need to make a ^ rather than a v when you're assembling it with the screen facing down. Tweezers are good to have, especially if they're very long and even better if they're curved. I also recommend doing this over a clean towel to avoid scratching the screen (there'll probably be a film over it too), and the fluffier the towel the better, to catch the tiny screws from flying and disappearing.
Honestly, getting the 2 halves apart is probably the hardest part. They make specialized tools for this, and often the sellers will include them, but it doesn't look like your purchase includes them (mine didn't either). Something plastic is the best choice, since you're less likely to cause cosmetic damage to the plastic (especially the bezel) if you slip (and you will slip). As I said before, GO SLOWLY. Work it apart a little bit at a time, alternate side to side, starting from the bottom. Eventually you'll be able to pull the 2 halves apart.
The battery will be stuck in pretty good and will need to be pried out. If I were you (and a week or so ago, I was you, I'd pop a new battery in while you're at it. At this point in the phone's life, it's probably had at least a few hundred cycles on the battery and has lost 10-20% of its original capacity. The other comments shouldn't be nearly as hard to get out. Just pry in various points until the piece pops out. Do not force anything. Just work it out slowly. After you pop off the piece that covers the USB port, there's the board that has the port, and that can be slightly tricky to get out. Best way I found is to slip something small and flat (screwdriver?) into the port and push up and out, and the board should come out easily.
Thankfully, there's only 3 different screws used, and they're all easily differentiated from each other. There's the 2 T5 TORX that hold the halves together, the 2 very short screws with wide heads that hold the battery in place, and the rest that hold everything else are all identical to each other.
It looks like on your assembly, it comes with its own adhesives. Everywhere there's a blue film, pull it off and there'll be adhesive underneath. I'd recommend leaving the film on over the part where the sensor/headphone jack module goes until you're sure you can stick it in place with the proximity sensor not acting wonky. Download an app (I used Phone Tester) that can read the prox sensor. FYI, as long as everything is in place, and you've attached the battery, you can boot the phone without replacing the back cover, and test the sensor (just depress the center bit of the power button board). You don't need to screw everything in, but you should at least screw and tighten down the few that surround the sensor area. Once you've got it reading properly (best of luck), it's time to put all back together.
You should familiarize yourself with the teardown/reassembly guides out there. Go to ifixit.com and have everything ready to look at. This is the video[/i] that I used to guide me, and I watched it through a few times before I attempted it myself. You should be just fine with your phone after familiarizing yourself, but if you have any specific problems or questions, feel free to ask, and I'm all too happy to help.
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Awesome, I saw some cheaper screens but that one notes that its LG compliant etc. I bought a set of tools separately so will have all the stuff needed. Didnt think about the battery, will order one as it does make sense!
Thanks for the info, will update as I go.
If you want to have a working battery like it used to be before removing it, you have to be very patient and extra careful while trying to remove it. Use some heat for the glue and try with something very thin like a nylon guitar pick. In anyway don't bent the battery and don't start from top. It will be easier to first remove the mother board. Iv already destroyed 4 5 batteries while trying to remove them. Sorry for my English, I hope you understand.
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Sp_Ark said:
If you want to have a working battery like it used to be before removing it, you have to be very patient and extra careful while trying to remove it. Use some heat for the glue and try with something very thin like a nylon guitar pick. In anyway don't bent the battery and don't start from top. It will be easier to first remove the mother board. Iv already destroyed 4 5 batteries while trying to remove them. Sorry for my English, I hope you understand.
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Yea was extra careful, used a little heat. Someone has definately replaced the screen on the phone before but seems to have been careful enough as no screws missing etc, except the lost the little speaker grille
New screen in and working well. The proximity sensor seems to be working but it reports all or nothing rather than varied. Is this correct?
bert682 said:
Yea was extra careful, used a little heat. Someone has definately replaced the screen on the phone before but seems to have been careful enough as no screws missing etc, except the lost the little speaker grille
New screen in and working well. The proximity sensor seems to be working but it reports all or nothing rather than varied. Is this correct?
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Yeah this is normal.
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bert682 said:
New screen in and working well.
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Awesome! See, it wasn't too bad, was it? Ifixit gives the N4 a 7/10 for repairability, and that's pretty high for them. After replacing my N4 screen, friend/coworker asked if I could do the same for his HTC One M7 with a completely shattered, yet functional digitizer. I said "HEEEEEEEEEEELL NO!"
Planterz said:
Awesome! See, it wasn't too bad, was it? Ifixit gives the N4 a 7/10 for repairability, and that's pretty high for them. After replacing my N4 screen, friend/coworker asked if I could do the same for his HTC One M7 with a completely shattered, yet functional digitizer. I said "HEEEEEEEEEEELL NO!"
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No, not with the correct tools. I will admit had I not bought the plastic tools, tweezers etc I may have struggled.
The battery was my main concern, its really stuck down, even though this had been replaced before and likely a less tacky glue used it was still tough. Had to use some heat to soften it and the "battery cover" has seen better days. Next thing to replace is that, just for piece of mind.
All in all, pretty nice experience, the phone seems more modular that other phones I have taken apart which is nice.

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