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Red laser bad for our Epic screens?

Since our Epics have Super AMOLED screen being organic in nature I know certian lasers will mess up the screen. The blue one being the worst but what about the red ones like a store's scanner?
Here is a news article about Starbuck's idea of paying coffee with your phone:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/06/26/BU9J1K0BND.DTL
Will it mess up our phone's screen?
Darkk

No it will not. you'd need like a week of nonstop laser being directed at the screen. Besides, the Sun is far more powerful.

If they are going to have a barcode reader it will most likely be a camera and not a lazer...I dont think lazers can even read off a screen...your screen emits light...you cant pick that up with a red lazer...

gTen said:
If they are going to have a barcode reader it will most likely be a camera and not a lazer...I dont think lazers can even read off a screen...your screen emits light...you cant pick that up with a red lazer...
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Umm...I don't want to go all physics on you, but anything you can see with your eyes is emitting or reflecting light, except black, which is an absence of light (including the black on your screen). Soo..yeah. Not being a **** lol.
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squshy 7 said:
Umm...I don't want to go all physics on you, but anything you can see with your eyes is emitting or reflecting light, except black, which is an absence of light (including the black on your screen). Soo..yeah. Not being a **** lol.
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it makes a big difference between emitting light and reflecting light..The fact that its emitting light eliminates the purpose of using a red lazer altogether..

gTen said:
it makes a big difference between emitting light and reflecting light..The fact that its emitting light eliminates the purpose of using a red lazer altogether..
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I still have to disagree with you as light is light is light, but that's off topic. I don't know about the harmful effects of lasers on our samoled.
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gTen said:
If they are going to have a barcode reader it will most likely be a camera and not a lazer...I dont think lazers can even read off a screen...your screen emits light...you cant pick that up with a red lazer...
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yes they can
airports use lasers to pick up mobile boarding passes

ccpotato said:
yes they can
airports use lasers to pick up mobile boarding passes
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And at the baseball stadium here in ...
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squshy 7 said:
I still have to disagree with you as light is light is light, but that's off topic. I don't know about the harmful effects of lasers on our samoled.
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Yeah, I tend to agree with this. Whether a ball is thrown at you or bounced off a wall at you, it's still a ball coming at your head.

gTen said:
If they are going to have a barcode reader it will most likely be a camera and not a lazer...I dont think lazers can even read off a screen...your screen emits light...you cant pick that up with a red lazer...
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Starbucks uses laser scanners and while I do not use their app myself, I have seen people where I go try to use their iPhone apps and it takes them forever to scan (if it even scans at all) I just chuckle and say to myself "dumb ass iPhone" LOL

squshy 7 said:
Umm...I don't want to go all physics on you, but anything you can see with your eyes is emitting or reflecting light, except black, which is an absence of light (including the black on your screen). Soo..yeah. Not being a **** lol.
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Actually, you kinda are being a ****, and saying that you aren't doesn't magically negate that fact. Also, the black on our screens is NOT a complete absence of light - turn your phone off (shut down, not screen lock) in a completely dark room to see just how much light comes from the screen (you can try loading an all-black image file as well). And I don't want to get all physics on you, but the screen would refract the laser, which may or may not cause problems. But any scratch on the screen would interfere, and Starbucks can't predict where or how people will scratch their phones, or what type of screen protector they might use, so that method would be too unreliable to work with the general public
Sorry to word it like a ****, I couldn't resist the irony
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10 char

There is an app called Key Ring. I can put all of those little key chain barcodes on my phone. They use the red laser to scan my card from my phone all of the time
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josidhe said:
Yeah, I tend to agree with this. Whether a ball is thrown at you or bounced off a wall at you, it's still a ball coming at your head.
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This made me lol.
Speaking of which...does anyone else see a guy with his hands up in the air like he's celebrating when you see 'lol' typed?
Once you see it, you can't erase it

styles420 said:
Actually, you kinda are being a ****, and saying that you aren't doesn't magically negate that fact. Also, the black on our screens is NOT a complete absence of light - turn your phone off (shut down, not screen lock) in a completely dark room to see just how much light comes from the screen (you can try loading an all-black image file as well). And I don't want to get all physics on you, but the screen would refract the laser, which may or may not cause problems. But any scratch on the screen would interfere, and Starbucks can't predict where or how people will scratch their phones, or what type of screen protector they might use, so that method would be too unreliable to work with the general public
Sorry to word it like a ****, I couldn't resist the irony
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Just for the point of clarity, an AMOLED screen does indeed use NO light to represent black. AMOLED displays do not use a backlight so black is "rendered" by simply not turning on any color for the pixel.

styles420 said:
Actually, you kinda are being a ****, and saying that you aren't doesn't magically negate that fact. Also, the black on our screens is NOT a complete absence of light - turn your phone off (shut down, not screen lock) in a completely dark room to see just how much light comes from the screen (you can try loading an all-black image file as well). And I don't want to get all physics on you, but the screen would refract the laser, which may or may not cause problems. But any scratch on the screen would interfere, and Starbucks can't predict where or how people will scratch their phones, or what type of screen protector they might use, so that method would be too unreliable to work with the general public
Sorry to word it like a ****, I couldn't resist the irony
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Wow. Way to troll my post. I'm sorry but that was completely unnecessary.
Indeed the glass and scratches can present refraction problems, but that is why it must be done nearly face on, and why barcodes are so tall, because physical scratches on a barcode can have the same consequence of a failure to read.
Also...I never argued it was perfect. In fact, I agree that the glass alone presents an issue in reliability.
But I never mentioned the glass, because that was not the point I was making. If you read my post, and use some basic intuition, you'll see that I was merely pointing out that it is incorrect to think that light emitting from my screen is different than light reflecting off your bar code. He had, in effect, argued the opposite previously.
And you really mistook the voice of my post. My preamble was cautionary because I didn't want to sound like a, well, ****. And my conclusion was simply reaffirming that. If you reread my post with a more hesitant voice you'll understand how I wanted it to sound.
Then again, it's not like we're talking face-to-face. I can't really blame you for misinterpreting like that, because automatically placing an insulting voice in there would be your problem, not mine.
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MikeyLee said:
Starbucks uses laser scanners and while I do not use their app myself, I have seen people where I go try to use their iPhone apps and it takes them forever to scan (if it even scans at all) I just chuckle and say to myself "dumb ass iPhone" LOL
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LOL.... Plus one for that joke!

Reading through the posts some interesting points. However, this isn't about scanner NOT being able to read the bar codes on our Epic screens. It's about the possible damage caused by a narrow beam of light enegry for any length of time.
I know regular LCD screens aren't affected by this but AMOLED is sensitive to UV light such as the sun.
Here is something I saw on Wiki:
"UV sensitivity: OLED displays can be damaged by prolonged exposure to UV light. The most pronounced example of this can be seen with a near UV laser (such as a Bluray pointer) and can damage the display almost instantly with more than 20 mW leading to dim or dead spots where the beam is focused. This is usually avoided by installing a UV blocking filter over the panel and this can easily be seen as a clear plastic layer on the glass. Removal of this filter can lead to severe damage and an unusable display after only a few months of room light exposure."
I have to wonder just how strong can the UV fliter on our phones protect the display? So far my normal usage on the phone the display looks fine. Then again I made sure it wasn't left in the sun too long, maybe like a few seconds.
Darkk

Seriously, gten is finally using xda now and you guys keep harassing him
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Just for the point of clarity, an AMOLED screen does indeed use NO light to represent black. AMOLED displays do not use a backlight so black is "rendered" by simply not turning on any color for the pixel.
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Then how do you explain the noticable glow to the screen for about 30 seconds while the phone is shutting down? Seems like it would be completely dark if there was an absence of light, but there is clearly SOME light
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Odd 3D Effect

I was opening my phone up this afternoon, so I had my magnifier on so I could see (my eyes aren't quite what they used to be). I just happened to have a bible app with the red letters and blue Strong's concordance up, and when I looked at it through the magnifier, it had a 3D effect. The red was "higher" than the blue. I called my wife and mother in law over to make sure I wasn't imagining this, and they saw it too. When I took the phone out from under the magnifier, the 3D effect went away (obviously).
I played around with other colors, and it seems like the blues and greens are the furthest "back", and the reds, yellows, and oranges are furthest "forward". White seems to be somewhere in the middle.
I almost feel like bringing the magnifier around with me just too see the 3D stuff, but the glass and round fluorescent bulb together are about 10" in diameter, and a bit hard to stuff in my pocket.
Anyone else see this effect? Is this how the 3D phones work?

That's quite the strange effect, but nope, that's not how 3d phones work. As far as I know they use Parallax barrier technology. here's a quote:
"The LG Optimus 3D (and the Nintendo 3DS for that matter) uses the parallax barrier technology. Parallax might sound scary, but simply put it is the effect of seeing closer objects bigger and more distant ones – smaller. What matters most is the barrier however. It is just what you would imagine – a vertical slit plate on top of the traditional screen that blocks part of the image for each eye. The technology is somewhat limited to smaller screens, but yields good results without the geekines of wearing glasses" (www[dot]phonearena[dot]com/news/3D-How-does-it-work_id16950)

I see this all the time with my glasses. I think there is a slight prism effect where the angle of the different light frequencies (colors) is slightly changed by the lens. I also see it at night when there are bright blue or red neon signs.
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I seen a 3d effect last night
Now it could b just my eyes cuz it was 4am and I was up since 7am that morning so I was veryyyyyyyyyyy tired
I was reading a thred on here not sure which one exactly but with black backround and white text the white looked extremely 3d to me like I could swear that I could actually touch it
I was in the dark and it was the only light to my eyes so it could b since the white txt were the only light I seen them popping out since I was tired and focusing on them lol
But I still do believe there is a few 3dness in the epic
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It was quite an effect, the difference between the blue and the red was probably about 1/8 inch, and very obvious. I played around a little, and there is a definite difference between the blue & red. Looking at all my app icons was quite impressive.

knyque said:
It was quite an effect, the difference between the blue and the red was probably about 1/8 inch, and very obvious. I played around a little, and there is a definite difference between the blue & red. Looking at all my app icons was quite impressive.
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I used to get that on my old Palm Treo. Probably the angle at which you're looking at the letters. Or it's God.

knyque said:
I was opening my phone up this afternoon, so I had my magnifier on so I could see (my eyes aren't quite what they used to be). I just happened to have a bible app with the red letters and blue Strong's concordance up, and when I looked at it through the magnifier, it had a 3D effect. The red was "higher" than the blue. I called my wife and mother in law over to make sure I wasn't imagining this, and they saw it too. When I took the phone out from under the magnifier, the 3D effect went away (obviously).
I played around with other colors, and it seems like the blues and greens are the furthest "back", and the reds, yellows, and oranges are furthest "forward". White seems to be somewhere in the middle.
I almost feel like bringing the magnifier around with me just too see the 3D stuff, but the glass and round fluorescent bulb together are about 10" in diameter, and a bit hard to stuff in my pocket.
Anyone else see this effect? Is this how the 3D phones work?
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Senior citizens, we must put them in cages.
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Looneyrat said:
Senior citizens, we must put them in cages
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Wow, never thought of myself as being a senior citizen, I still have 15-20 years before AARP will take me.
You really should watch it, sonny, young whipper-snappers like you will get to be my age some day.

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Senior citizens, we must put them in cages.
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This comment is not acceptable! I'm 23 yrs I would never say this to anyone. Come on haven't you heard of respecting your elders.

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Omg! What I say? We all know these screens are not 3d. Poor ol goon needs to see a eye doctor. He's probable walking around this world face planting into trees. Poor ol lizard, you guys aren't helping him by lying to him that we do have 3d screens. FOR SHAME!
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Does anyone else have a magnifying glass that they could see if it does the same thing? Mine is the one with the arm that can be moved around, round fluorescent tube with the glass in the middle.
BTW, my eyes are 20/15 and 20/10, so I actually see better than average, but when I want to see tiny stuff, that's when I get the magnifier out.

Dear god! What the heck you doing rolling around on a hoover round with magnifying glasses! Creepy ol man you!
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I've been seeing that "3d" effect when wearing glasses, since CRT days. Must be the way clear ploycarb affects the light. In real life, I can also see slight red/blue edges, depending on the light.

sgtkwol said:
I've been seeing that "3d" effect when wearing glasses, since CRT days. Must be the way clear ploycarb affects the light. In real life, I can also see slight red/blue edges, depending on the light.
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Its called cardirac
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knyque said:
I was opening my phone up this afternoon, so I had my magnifier on so I could see (my eyes aren't quite what they used to be). I just happened to have a bible app with the red letters and blue Strong's concordance up, and when I looked at it through the magnifier, it had a 3D effect. The red was "higher" than the blue. I called my wife and mother in law over to make sure I wasn't imagining this, and they saw it too. When I took the phone out from under the magnifier, the 3D effect went away (obviously).
I played around with other colors, and it seems like the blues and greens are the furthest "back", and the reds, yellows, and oranges are furthest "forward". White seems to be somewhere in the middle.
I almost feel like bringing the magnifier around with me just too see the 3D stuff, but the glass and round fluorescent bulb together are about 10" in diameter, and a bit hard to stuff in my pocket.
Anyone else see this effect? Is this how the 3D phones work?
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I myself being 30 have seen something to that effect. I believe it has something to do with the way the led's are layed out on the amoled screen. If you ever have an average size multi color led you'll notice that depending on the color of the light coming from the led, it is not always centered, or in the same area for that matter. I believe the same effect happens with the amoled just at a much smaller aspect. I've also noticed it on a scrolling led banner. When red and blue are close to eachother, one looks higher than the other

Gabesn200sx said:
I myself being 30 have seen something to that effect. I believe it has something to do with the way the led's are layed out on the amoled screen. If you ever have an average size multi color led you'll notice that depending on the color of the light coming from the led, it is not always centered, or in the same area for that matter. I believe the same effect happens with the amoled just at a much smaller aspect. I've also noticed it on a scrolling led banner. When red and blue are close to eachother, one looks higher than the other
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Xda turning into a senior center for the old and wary. What's next? Adult diapers?
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Loonyrat, is there a particular reason you are trolling here? If you have nothing productive to add to the conversation, stfu.. there's enough crap to wade thru in forums.. please stop with the stupid replies.
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jfg69 said:
Loonyrat, is there a particular reason you are trolling here? If you have nothing productive to add to the conversation, stfu.. there's enough crap to wade thru in forums.. please stop with the stupid replies.
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Your one angry gramps aren't you! dentures are crooked, fix en.. With my foot!! Lol.
Seriously... This don't have 3d displays!
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Nobody said that they do.

Build Quality : White vs Grey

A little bit of an odd thing to come to light for me, but I have a good hunch that the white color devices have a higher build quality vs the grey ones.
I may go so far as to say that there are slight variances outside of just the color. ...or they were build on different assembly lines...or with different QC on batches because of whatever reason you want to put there....or any number of things.
Now, here is what I base this on. I have gone through a number of white and grey devices for personal use. At least two white and two grey models. It is not exactly a scientific testing, by any means, but with the white tablets I found very solid in terms of no creaking, no light leakage, and just overall solid feel. The grey tablets had creaking, pen not staying in properly, and light leakage, among other things.
I have two boys, 2 and 3 years old, that love playing with Daddy's tablet, and a wife that uses it for personal and school use (until she gets her own tablet here in the next couple weeks). So I have put each of the devices through their paces.
So, mainly for fun and intrigue, I wanted to see if anyone could share any good or bad build feel or issues they have and what color they have. Anyone else have some insight?

Maybe because our beloved devices are built in different factories and/or comapnies there might be quality differences and/or also the parts for assembly do come from different manufacturers ...............................

Mine is black (not gray) and no problems at all, although this is my second one. The first had light leakage.
2 young boys? Get the toughest case you can find. I recommend a silicone case with good screen protector.
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.......... but always better than iPhone 5 that comes with scratches and leakages in series ......... :silly::laugh:

It's because Samsung is racist.
On the real though I've had both a white one and a gray/black one. No difference in quality on this end.

mitchellvii said:
Mine is black (not gray) and no problems at all, although this is my second one. The first had light leakage.
2 young boys? Get the toughest case you can find. I recommend a silicone case with good screen protector.
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I dont think silicone is a good idea. I experience it my self. Due to its semi hard material, Silicone case do scratch my bezel when some dirt is between the bezel n the case. I think tpu is a more better case..
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I noticed the same thing that i almost weighed this white one last night in lab. Feels much more sturdier, no squeaking yet, and when i read the reviews from sites that had the grey one it kind of confirmed my suspicion. There is somethinig definitely more stable with the white one in my opinion. My grey one had six "scratches" on the back even though it was in the case 99% of the time - which didn't make sense. Then when i read androidpolice's review and saw the same six scratches, i rolled my eyes.
I will say about the pen - because i feel the same way about the squeakiness (although i can't comment on the light bleed - neither had it) that my white pen feels lighter than the grey version. I wonder if the grey version is a different type of plastic or polycarbonate (whatever it is made of) than the white. I wish there was a way to figure out the date manufactured from the serial number similar to Asus.
Now, I know that Samsung has used different components in their phones before. I have a SGSIII on Sprint. It has a different camera module than a colleague's who also has the SGSIII on sprint. The difference on mine seems to be a clearer picture and much better quality in darker areas (especially at night) and not as much noise. I'm curious if Samsung did use diffferent factories, or components on these versions. I personally don't think it was a different line or different factory, but i could be wrong. It just seems such a drastic change but it's entirely possible (similar to Asus supposedly changing innards in their Prime over a 4 month period).
I think a lot of manufacturer's do it (HTC Evo 4G comes to mind with their screens) and it's so early in this production i hope it's not true, but in my experience i wasn't going to deal with 6 "scratches" on a tablet that cost $499 that still had the plastic protector on the back. The sad part of the story is i didn't even KNOW about the scratches until i went to exchange it because it had stayed in the case for so long.

I can't comment about the white version. I did buy the grey one a couple days ago and made the sales person open the box so that I could give it the squeak test... rock solid. Snapped er up!!!

Having own both colors, I can say with confidence that the white one is built better. The slot to hold the pen is more tight and less squeek.

My white one creaks when pressing just around the Samsung logo on the back. Only slight creak. I Can live with that.
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There are only three components that differ based on the color - 1) the display because of the colored surround, 2) the molded plastic back cover, and 3) the metal-esque bezel. I'd rule out any difference caused by the display because it hasn't come in to play in any previous discussions. From a physical perspective that leaves the bezel and plastic back cover.
There's no artistry or complexity involved in molding plastic so I'd guess all the bezels and back covers are made in one place and shipped to the different factories that assemble the Note. Neither the bezel nor the back cover have any complex lines or angles (probably intentional) so I doubt there's any challenges in producing an accurate die that the plastic is formed in.
So one of two things is causing some Notes to be less solid than others: 1) assembly issues where they aren't put together properly, 2) a part like the frame, bezel, or back cover wasn't produced within tolerances and fit isn't correct. I'd guess probably 90% is assembly and 10% irregular components. Regardless, I can't see white being any more or less immune to defects than grey. They may produce a week's run of gray followed by a week's run of white. If something happens on the assembly line during a single week’s run all of a single color could be affected. But it would be random as to which one. There certainly could be aesthetic differences caused by color. Look what happened to the blue SGS3’s when they launched.

My grey one only creeks on the lower right corner (where the s pen is located) is this on the white version?

My white one is as solid as a rock.
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samsung colors
I have the grey. Not noticing any squeaking, feels great. I didn't buy the white because the IPad was white. I didn't want anyone asking how I liked my Apple.

I have a white 16g WiFi+3g (gt-n8000). The back creaks on the left side. Can't decide whether it's due to build quality or it falling off my bed one night. Regardless, I don't mind it too much.
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This is the silliest thing i've ever heard. :laugh:
No seriously, don't you think they make them with all the same components, at the same factory, at the same time....etc, etc.
The only difference with these is.............Color! Yes thats it!
Or maybe they have separate factories in different countries. That would be cost effective. Maybe even the job requirements are different. The white factory requires college degrees.
BTW, I have both a white one and a black one presently, so it's not sour grapes

Had two grays one creaked one didn't.
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I picked the white up first which was perfect fast and the screen was wow .. I decided to swap it to the grey it was sluggish the pen wasnt repsonsive and I have very bad screen bleed
Its going back and im getting the white again
Dissapointed
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My white one is as solid as a rock.
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Same here , No light bleeding as well which makes me soo happy considering my iPad 2 (replaced once, still had it) and Asus transformer Prime both had it. The Galaxy Note 10.1 is by far my favorite as well.

Traded my grey in today for a white one (Not intentionally i went for a 32g model but no dice) but i can honestley say this feels so much more sturdy, I read all types of reviews so when i first bought my note i checked for that creaking on the sides, sure enough it was there, this one (white) however does not creak. So you have a valid point.
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I want the white N7 FHD!!!!

I wish Google would have launched it with the white version as an option! I guess my white carbon fiber dbrand skins on the front an back will have to do for me. If the display of the white version was also white, then I'd probably sell mine and buy it in white. Anyone else like the new white version?
Here's a link for those who haven't seen it yet : http://androidandme.com/2013/12/news/nexus-7-now-comes-in-white/
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Wow
it's beatiful
but anyway i wouldnt sell mine for that one (i mean, i preffer white, but hell it's not a big difference) and lot of users use covers

Just the backplate is white. The bezel is still black. I recently popped off my N7 cover and there are lots of built in antennas and connectors. Don't know if 3rd party manufacturers could make replacements. Probably.
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I'm not shook up. I love the 2001 monolith look. In fact, if it ever fails, you could say it will be Ku-bricked...
I'll show myself the door, thanks.

Never understood that decision. If you make a white device, make it all white; not just the back.
You put a cover/case on it, and it makes no difference.

Quiksilver78 said:
Never understood that decision. If you make a white device, make it all white; not just the back.
You put a cover/case on it, and it makes no difference.
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My thoughts exactly.

Yea, just buy a white feather case and BAM
Coming from AMOLED screens, I do find the white bezel contrast helps make the LCD "blacks" look darker. That is one of the annoying things about coming from an AMOLED where you can't tell where the screen starts/stops to an LCD where you can distinctively see the LCD panel compared to a black black panel border.
I've never owned a white device. I wanted a white G2, but Verizon only sold it in black... well now there is a white one. My N7... now there is a white one. I dunno. There are companies who make the Glass style screen protectors that actually have painted undercoats that can change the color and appearance of the front bezels. I'm waiting for a white review unit for my G2.

Quiksilver78 said:
Never understood that decision. If you make a white device, make it all white; not just the back.
You put a cover/case on it, and it makes no difference.
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Style options create inventory management and supply chain complexity. The more parts in common between styles, the lower the level of complexity.
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Quiksilver78 said:
Never understood that decision. If you make a white device, make it all white; not just the back.
You put a cover/case on it, and it makes no difference.
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Agreed. I personally think the white nexus devices are ugly.
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stanglifemike said:
I wish Google would have launched it with the white version as an option! I guess my white carbon fiber dbrand skins on the front an back will have to do for me. If the display of the white version was also white, then I'd probably sell mine and buy it in white. Anyone else like the new white version?
Here's a link for those who haven't seen it yet : http://androidandme.com/2013/12/news/nexus-7-now-comes-in-white/
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Oh mike...
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Quiksilver78 said:
Never understood that decision. If you make a white device, make it all white; not just the back.
You put a cover/case on it, and it makes no difference.
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EXACTLY!! Not sure why some manufacturers understand that concept, and some don't. I realize that it keeps the production costs down, as they don't have to remanufactuer the front half. I for one wouldn't mind paying a little more for an ALL white version though!
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Oh mike...
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Lol. What can I say, I just love my white devices!
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I'm actually very happy with the black one because I have the white nexus 5 so its like having the best of both worlds
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ya wished it came in white at launch date 2013 in july, would have gotten it, esp white LTE 32gb version

I prefer black

Pinstriped bezel

Since this subforum is so dead, I figured I'd make some small talk...
Am I the only one who loves their notification LED? I was very disappointed to see the gray demo units at Best Buy actually have a pinstripe pattern under the glass that noticeably obscures/dulls the LED, and the pattern is even applied over the touchkeys, so they have a weird, wavy look to them. A foolish decision by Samsung, IMO.

ffolkes said:
Since this subforum is so dead, I figured I'd make some small talk...
Am I the only one who loves their notification LED? I was very disappointed to see the gray demo units at Best Buy actually have a pinstripe pattern under the glass that noticeably obscures/dulls the LED, and the pattern is even applied over the touchkeys, so they have a weird, wavy look to them. A foolish decision by Samsung, IMO.
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Good to see you over here in the Note 4 area! Can't wait to see what you come up with.
I haven't actually seen the note 4 in person yet but i'll have my hands on one in a couple days. Are you talking about the same type of pattern under the glass of the note 2 and its touchkeys?

Yes that's the way it is on my Note 4 :/
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Funny you should mention that - I just noticed it with my Note 4 about 30 minutes ago :$

Just got my note 4 and see the same thing. At least for the soft key buttons i dont mind it because i always keep them off
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ffolkes said:
Since this subforum is so dead, I figured I'd make some small talk...
Am I the only one who loves their notification LED? I was very disappointed to see the gray demo units at Best Buy actually have a pinstripe pattern under the glass that noticeably obscures/dulls the LED, and the pattern is even applied over the touchkeys, so they have a weird, wavy look to them. A foolish decision by Samsung, IMO.
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Same pattern on mine. Didn't notice it on the white one set up at best buy. Not a fan of the obscurity. Stoked to see you picked one up too ffolkes!
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egodriver07 said:
Same pattern on mine. Didn't notice it on the white one set up at best buy. Not a fan of the obscurity. Stoked to see you picked one up too ffolkes!
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I dont know if its design or corner cutting. I dont like it, it looks cheap. Even the notification light has it. Luckly its only these items.

I don't have mine yet so I don't know. But you're saying this dulls the notification light? maybe Samsung did this so people complain less about their notification light colors when their phone is charging/charged in the middle of the night in a dark room
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mikey123 said:
I don't have mine yet so I don't know. But you're saying this dulls the notification light? maybe Samsung did this so people complain less about their notification light colors when their phone is charging/charged in the middle of the night in a dark room
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Well if they did it for any reason on purpose it is stupid. I usually don't mind software related mishaps with LED because apps and kernel devs usually give us a ton of options to workaround it. But this is the way they designed the phone from a manufacturing standpoint. Blah.
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Black one has the stripes but my wife's white one doesnt.

I like the pinstripe and keeps it from looking plain. I always turn off the bottom lights, i know the buttons are there, so that's not an issue.
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I like the pinstripe on the notification light. I like the dulling effect. I on the other hand hate the stripes on the lower buttons. It gives it an appearance that the lighted buttons are flawed or pixels are burnt out.
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I don't like the dimmed LED. I use Light Flow, maybe my favorite program on Android. I rely on LED notifications almost every minute of every day. I'm missing the LED on the Nexus 5.

I don't have that problem on my white Sprint Note 4 at all. Not on the buttons or the notification light. I'm really glad because I saw that pinstriped look on the buttons on some YouTube videos and think it looks awful.
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White spots on aluminum bezel
Anyone else have 4 white squares on their aluminum bezel on the top and bottom? There's 2 near the glass and 2 near the back on the top and bottom, no idea what they are or what they're for.

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Anyone else have 4 white squares on their aluminum bezel on the top and bottom? There's 2 near the glass and 2 near the back on the top and bottom, no idea what they are or what they're for.
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Yes, they're gaps to allow signal to get through the metal frame to the antenna.
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Cool, thanks for the info.
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I don't like the pinstripes; period. Last three plus years, the plain black bezel matched to the dark super Amoled native screen gave the black Galaxy a certain distinction that other OEMs with LCD couldn't match with their lighter looking native screen. Not appreciating this look; not so bad under low light but that wasn't the reaction Samsung hoped for. Thumbs down; face Palm. Not liking either of the browsers included either. Why no auto fit? Samsung's response is that natively, auto-fit exists; reset your settings. Nope. Second response: you can manually adjust the screen with pinch to zoom/minimize. Otherwise, I'm very pleased with this phone and look forward to development in this forum.
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stared at both black and white side by side at best buy the other day for a bit, the white one definitely has the pin stripe look to it, its just a lot less noticeable. The only would offer to let me pre-order a black device so..guess ill look forward to stripes whenever they come in...

j00manji said:
stared at both black and white side by side at best buy the other day for a bit, the white one definitely has the pin stripe look to it, its just a lot less noticeable. The only would offer to let me pre-order a black device so..guess ill look forward to stripes whenever they come in...
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This is my opinion on the 8 total white (possible 8x ir led) squares on the bezel.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/3/6098745/samsung-gear-vr-oculus-announcement-hands-on
It is for vr. To be used with a Xbox-one live camera for positional/tilt head movement in conjuction with a PC.
As soon as I saw these 8 squares I had a 99.9% confidence that note4 is vr ready! As I have been balls deep in oculus news!
The Exynos has 20-30% stronger gpu that never overheats, so it never throttles.
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34fps 1440p t-rex in my pocket. ......
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