Hi there devs,
We are in the samsung galaxy s2 thread and it feels sorry to see that no dev qualifies to roll out a rom that befits the original dev thread, i understand we hate sammy firmware but for what its worth, we are and sure we are using a flagship samsung device, and we don't have a single rom apart from raffale88s, common guys!!!!, even I in the last 15 days has learnt to use dsixda's kitchen and follow tutorials to mimic a mod....
doctorcete, pongster, petsasj......common guys, i know this post gonna get flamed like my private Guantanamo, but even then, it really is a shame that, none has really stepped out to release a rom worth the s2 original dev thread, please guys, the dev thread needs to see some action in the rom department....
Regards.
EDIT - The reason for the post was to encourage the inclusion of Samsung based ROMs in the Original Dev Section, and to understand if, devs who have already released roms who are in the android dev section, what should they make up for to improve on the aforesaid notion. From most of the replies I see, it seems, Google translate has been used to decipher the meaning of the post, anyways, please do not post if you do not want to contribute to the motion.
So you missed Paranoid Android, Slim ICS & Clean Blank ROM?
Among many many more. If you are after a Samsung ROM they are usually posted under the Android Development part.
Powereh said:
So you missed Paranoid Android, Slim ICS & Clean Blank ROM?
Among many many more. If you are after a Samsung ROM they are usually posted under the Android Development part.
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Thank you for your reply, but I am from the ages when roms were made for specific devices and not cos the alternative devs did not understand what samsung devd for its own devices, so yes I have seen and used them roms but am not interested, and am imploring devs to make roms for samsung devices by samsung that could befit the original dev forums, would request you not to troll further if you dont understand the objective behind the post.
[email protected] Moderators: Respected gentlemen, it would be great of you if you could footnote all the criterion that aspiring devs could work on towards enabling modded samsung roms to feature in the oirginal dev thread or is that not a possibility
No dev befits in the original development thread? Cm9?
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Except CM9, all AOSP ROMs in original dev section are kangs, aren't they?
Even there are no devs interested in porting SGS3, just because of the lack of interest in touchwiz. Even the sense 4 port project which is harder, got the ROM booting already.
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i miss the old days of hyperdroid androidmeda where i use to lose 1% in over 7hours of sleep and battery lasted for 2 days easy
It would be biased just to speak about hyperdroid, irrespective of me mentioning its devs considering that many devs like wanam, tungstwenty, kahvitahra, homam, kahvitahra, gangs kid, dsixda have made significant contributions to samsung rom devlopment, are we saying that we would singularly acknowledge their contribtuions and not someone who would amalgamate all of them, i guess that ways cm9 is also not a single parent born baby, its made out of significant contributions made by singular such devs, why should that be original?
If the xda comm feels that all samsung rom devs are just win zip ripping trolls, please make us aware as to what one should do to really stand out, to start with i have this tarfile released by samsung and this humongous amount of dev material available in xda, what should i do to really stand out as a rom dev in the orig dev thread?
hikarugo said:
Except CM9, all AOSP ROMs in original dev section are kangs, aren't they?
Even there are no devs interested in porting SGS3, just because of the lack of interest in touchwiz. Even the sense 4 port project which is harder, got the ROM booting already.
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I do not agree. Devs are interested in porting the SGS3 Rom, but they symply cannot do it! So they say they aren't interested. The current generation of devs here on xda will port everything they can to get some reputation, even when they're not interested in the end product...
Porting a Samsung Rom from one Samsung device to the other is a lot, lot, lot harder then you might think...
There's no sources to port it and hardware is very different.
To give you an example. Many, many devs tried to port Samsung S2 Rom to the Samsung S1 I9000...
But only 1 person, a very experienced dev(Dhirru), succeed in making it boot on the S1. Allthough it booted, it had many not working features and bugs.
Which were never solved....
Same problems porting S3 Rom to The S2....
There's symply no devs left who are able do it, so they say: "Not interested"
And to be honest, I was one of those. I have been building Roms for years. I have been trying for days now, to port it. I humbly have to accknowledge:I can't do it
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I do not agree. Devs are interested in porting the SGS3 Rom, but they symply cannot do it! So they say they aren't interested. The current generation of devs here on xda will port everything they can to get some reputation, even when they're not interested in the end product...
Porting a Samsung Rom from one Samsung device to the other is a lot, lot, lot harder then you might think...
There's no sources to port it and hardware is very different.
To give you an example. Many, many devs tried to port Samsung S2 Rom to the Samsung S1 I9000...
But only 1 person, a very experienced dev(Dhirru), succeed in making it boot on the S1. Allthough it booted, it had many not working features and bugs.
Which were never solved....
Same problems porting S3 Rom to The S2....
There's symply no devs left who are able do it, so they say: "Not interested"
And to be honest, I was one of those. I have been building Roms for years. I have been trying for days now, to port it. I humbly have to accknowledge:I can't do it
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Thank you for your honest reply, it really is sad then, i rest my case
The Undertakerr said:
I do not agree. Devs are interested in porting the SGS3 Rom, but they symply cannot do it! So they say they aren't interested. The current generation of devs here on xda will port everything they can to get some reputation, even when they're not interested in the end product...
Porting a Samsung Rom from one Samsung device to the other is a lot, lot, lot harder then you might think...
There's no sources to port it and hardware is very different.
To give you an example. Many, many devs tried to port Samsung S2 Rom to the Samsung S1 I9000...
But only 1 person, a very experienced dev(Dhirru), succeed in making it boot on the S1. Allthough it booted, it had many not working features and bugs.
Which were never solved....
Same problems porting S3 Rom to The S2....
There's symply no devs left who are able do it, so they say: "Not interested"
And to be honest, I was one of those. I have been building Roms for years. I have been trying for days now, to port it. I humbly have to accknowledge:I can't do it
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Isn't porting One X harder than porting SGS3's ROM? There are things that are same between S2 and S3. But One X.. The hardware is even more different. The manufacturer is different. It got HTC's frameworks. Porting One X is even more difficult, isn't it?
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Isn't porting One X harder than porting SGS3's ROM? There are things that are same between S2 and S3. But One X.. The hardware is even more different. The manufacturer is different. It got HTC's frameworks. Porting One X is even more difficult, isn't it?
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No, it isnt. Why? Simple. Go into a system apk in SGS3 dump and look for an hdpi folder. Unlike in One X, hdpi folder is not there in SGS3.
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i understand we hate sammy firmware
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No. *YOU* may hate the original Samsung ROM, but many of us - me included - don't, and don't try to make either opinion a consensus, because none of them are.
There are several ROMs to pick from and all of them have their pros and cons. Personally, I am using an unbranded, all-stock Samsung firmware, but rooted and with Tegrak Overclock installed, with all bloatware removed.
we are and sure we are using a flagship samsung device
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Well, we WERE, but not anymore. Since the release of the Galaxy Nexus, Note and the GS3, the GS2 has lots the position as Samsung's flagship device.
and we don't have a single rom apart from raffale88s
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Starting reading the forums, mate. There are at least 10 ROMs to pick from, from AOSP to Samsung-based ROMs.
i know this post gonna get flamed like my private Guantanamo
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That's the only part you got right... but even then I believe it will get more flamed than an Apple fanboy in an Google I/O Convention..
Whomever added the tag to this thread certainly has it right.
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Starting reading the forums, mate. There are at least 10 ROMs to pick from, from AOSP to Samsung-based ROMs.
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You're the one who needs to start reading the original section mate. It's only 1, it's the foxhound rom.
The rest are.. Intratech's, which is definitely not a custom ROM, and checkrom&hyperdroid, which are gb roms
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You're the one who needs to start reading the original section mate. It's only 1, it's the foxhound rom.
The rest are.. Intratech's, which is definitely not a custom ROM, and checkrom&hyperdroid, which are gb roms
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Am I missing something here? This very handy dandy index of original development lists 8 ICS ROMs, and also links the CM9 discussion thread and Intratech's original firmware thread.
And I believe there are more ROMs in the section that aren't on this index yet, but I'm not positive on that.
That's definitely more than one.
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Am I missing something here? This very handy dandy index of original development lists 8 ICS ROMs, and also links the CM9 discussion thread and Intratech's original firmware thread.
And I believe there are more ROMs in the section that aren't on this index yet, but I'm not positive on that.
That's definitely more than one.
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Yes it is not only 1, but 2, foxhound.. and criskelo.
The rest 6 ROMs are all AOSP ROMs
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Yes it is not only 1, but 2, foxhound.. and criskelo.
The rest 6 ROMs are all AOSP ROMs
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... And your point is? You think there should be more TouchWiz based ROMs?
There are a bunch. They're all in the regular Android Development section. You know. Since they're not original.
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... And your point is? You think there should be more TouchWiz based ROMs?
There are a bunch. They're all in the regular Android Development section. You know. Since they're not original.
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There used to be a lot in the original dev section.
I'm not talking about the unoriginal ones
WhoIsJohnGalt1979 said:
Thank you for your reply, but I am from the ages when roms were made for specific devices and not cos the alternative devs did not understand what samsung devd for its own devices, so yes I have seen and used them roms but am not interested, and am imploring devs to make roms for samsung devices by samsung that could befit the original dev forums, would request you not to troll further if you dont understand the objective behind the post.
[email protected] Moderators: Respected gentlemen, it would be great of you if you could footnote all the criterion that aspiring devs could work on towards enabling modded samsung roms to feature in the oirginal dev thread or is that not a possibility
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There used to be a lot in the original dev section.
I'm not talking about the unoriginal ones
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Maybe you should give this a read.
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Maybe you should give this a read.
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Well, CM9 is like
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They are all based on CM9, which are someone else's work. They are kangs. So how could they be original.
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I am sad to see everyone fighting over donation ROM which is only worth a few hours of a Modders time.
I and others developers do real work like Permanent Recovery and kernels, I and other developers took hours of soft bricking the device. People copy my update.zip formatting and use it for their ROM. if i wasn't here, you wouldn't have permanent recovery and CyanogenMod and one click and etc.
To the mods, you did the right thing here
Thank you? I honestly don't know how to respond in a way that isn't ridiculously sarcastic and mean, so I will leave it at that.
Me either. Lol.
How's cyanogenmod going?????
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I love roms but i cant stand the premise on donate ware, it seems many devs do it without even knowing their breaching T&C. I think some type of guide book needs to be set in place so whoever cooks a rom up knows what to and to not include in their posts, sigs, and threads to keep everything going smoothly. Im not against people who give their supporters beta releases but keep it off xda and keep it between you and your beta group. There are many talented devs out there that go about things all wrong(purposely and accidental) and kinda gives other devs a bad wrap for things they may not be involved in.
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Thank you? I honestly don't know how to respond in a way that isn't ridiculously sarcastic and mean, so I will leave it at that.
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Why be sarcastic and mean? Noobnl has done so much for the community and he only started his view on the matter of roms. That is only because some members are attacking noobnl due to a mod closing threads. But think carefully what made roms capable of flashing to begin with on the epic.
noobnl said:
I am sad to see everyone fighting over donation ROM which is only worth a few hours of a Modders time.
I and others developers do real work like Permanent Recovery and kernels, I and other developers took hours of soft bricking the device. People copy my update.zip formatting and use it for their ROM. if i wasn't here, you wouldn't have permanent recovery and CyanogenMod and one click and etc.
To the mods, you did the right thing here
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Yes, well your attitude stinks. You are talented but not holier than thou.
Get off your high horse and let it die.
noobnl said:
I am sad to see everyone fighting over donation ROM which is only worth a few hours of a Modders time.
I and others developers do real work like Permanent Recovery and kernels, I and other developers took hours of soft bricking the device. People copy my update.zip formatting and use it for their ROM. if i wasn't here, you wouldn't have permanent recovery and CyanogenMod and one click and etc.
To the mods, you did the right thing here
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I concur, these donatewares people need to get a real job/career and stop preying on the "flash-heads" who'd do anything to get a rom flashing fix.
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I love roms but i cant stand the premise on donate ware, it seems many devs do it without even knowing their breaching T&C. I think some type of guide book needs to be set in place so whoever cooks a rom up knows what to and to not include in their posts, sigs, and threads to keep everything going smoothly. Im not against people who give their supporters beta releases but keep it off xda and keep it between you and your beta group. There are many talented devs out there that go about things all wrong(purposely and accidental) and kinda gives other devs a bad wrap for things they may not be involved in.
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If people read the rules, which they are required to be aware of and in compliance of, it is clearly stated in Rule 8.
Here's my two cents on this whole thing if anyone cares.
ROM building is basically pushing and pulling APKs and running BAT files other members have already put together. I will be the first to admit that the stupid ROM I've posted really doesn't contain anything new. It's just the same files in a different order with some added, compressed or removed. When I do this stuff, obviously, I'm not coding anything. I'm barely proficient with Linux and would consider myself a novice at when it comes to programming in any language. (I can write you a 'Hello World' program in just about any language you want though.)
99% of the members here, if they had the time and desire to, could make a ROM.
As far as donations go, I can see how it would be tempting to ask for them. After all, even if ROM building is EASY, it does take time. However, I can definitely understand where XDA is coming from. Someone has to pay for this domain and the hosting. With the insane amount of traffic this place gets it can't be cheap. How would you feel if you fascilitated this place and had people setting up shop? If anything I feel like I owe XDA and if ****ty technical support jobs paid more I would have already donated.
I've learned a long time ago that being mad/upset about anything in any part of your life or even disliking people really doesn't get you anywhere. That kind of stuff just poisons your mind and overall wellbeing. So can't we just move on guys?
That's all.
Also I want to thank noob for working with Team Douche on CM for our phones. If you guys haven't had an opportunity to use it on another Android device, trust me it is well worth waiting for. No more waiting on Sammy to push updates.
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Why be sarcastic and mean? Noobnl has done so much for the community and he only started his view on the matter of roms. That is only because some members are attacking noobnl due to a mod closing threads. But think carefully what made roms capable of flashing to begin with on the epic.
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Because frankly I don't care how talented you are or how much you have contributed to the community, putting other developers down and calling them "cowards" as he did in the other thread, and then creating a new post full of the most self congratulatory arrogant nonsense I have ever read explaining how the dev scene ain't Sh&t without you, requires nothing but a mean and sarcastic reply.
Edit: No one is questioning that the work he is doing is awesome and that he is talented and at the core of development for the epic right now, but from the last few posts I have read of his, the same cannot be said of his attitude.
Are you going to show some of that epic cm greatness to douchecast tonight
NotATreoFan said:
If people read the rules, which they are required to be aware of and in compliance of, it is clearly stated in Rule 8.
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Where in the rules does it say you can be suspended or banned for expressing your opinion regarding the actions of moderators?
bobdude5 said:
Are you going to show some of that epic cm greatness to douchecast tonight
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yup going to compile a new cm6
noobnl said:
yup going to compile a new cm6
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Sweet deal hopefully those pesky random bootloops are gone in the new one good luck man!
I love that channel ...everybody gave up modding and played angry birds when you left ahah
are u going to incorporate the source code that was released?
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yup going to compile a new cm6
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You saying that all these roms on here are yours but kanged?I feel if someone added or removed few things from a rom than he should definitely put KANGED in rom's title and give credit to original coder/creator.
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You saying that all these roms on here are yours but kanged?I feel if someone added or removed few things from a rom than he should definitely put KANGED in rom's title and give credit to original coder/creator.
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He's saying he doesn't appreciate people taking credit for his modified Linux kernel and other modifications to bootloaders by asking for "donations," that's all. Take a look at noobnl's Github repo. It is linked to the CyanogenMod source repo, the samsung sources, and other sources upstream. Credit is given and all licenses are followed properly. His releases all have their source published. He doesn't withhold releases under the guise of getting people to donate (pay) for beta testing (early access to software). He has every right to be perturbed at others using a thinly-veiled excuse to basically extort money from people in order to get something derived from his own work earlier than everyone else.
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He's saying he doesn't appreciate people taking credit for his modified Linux kernel and other modifications to bootloaders by asking for "donations," that's all. Take a look at noobnl's Github repo. It is linked to the CyanogenMod source repo, the samsung sources, and other sources upstream. Credit is given and all licenses are followed properly. His releases all have their source published. He doesn't withhold releases under the guise of getting people to donate (pay) for beta testing (early access to software). He has every right to be perturbed at others using a thinly-veiled excuse to basically extort money from people in order to get something derived from his own work earlier than everyone else.
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Yeah thats not right,i owned 3 android phones and never have I seen this type of **** we have on epic forum.
Noobnl, cm6 is coming out tonight?! Answer me please! Been waiting for this.
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Please discuss the current Nexus S project here to keep Supercurios thread clean. This will make it easier to keep track of the progress instead of having to read through pages of questions and thanks.
@Mods: Please close this thread if you think its not needed or move if its in the wrong place.
Thanks
Sound to me like an excellent idea!
Trying to find info in the other thread is like trying to find your wang when nekked outside in the weather that reigns sweden today.
Waiting for the fixed kernel issues
Will then do all the ROM stuff
Darkyy said:
Waiting for the fixed kernel issues
Will then do all the ROM stuff
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Eagerly anticipating your contribution to this one Darkyy!
Let the porting begin :d
Darkyy said:
Waiting for the fixed kernel issues
Will then do all the ROM stuff
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There is no point in making a rom for gingerbread as it is good the way it is and tremendously fast as well.
~Webstar1
Other people maybe disagree
webstar1 said:
There is no point in making a rom for gingerbread as it is good the way it is and tremendously fast as well.
~Webstar1
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It is actually to get a fully optimized stock Android experience without, Samsung's framework.
Darkyy's Rom is by far the best I have used. I used the Cyanogen Mod Rom from Aery and Coolya and thought that the performance was incredible, but it lacked all the functionality for day to day use.
You get a team together like Darkyy, Supercurio and Aery/Coolya working on a Gingerbread port, then that is a Rom worth paying for. (I'm aware that all their work would be fairly separate, but if they have a shared github, that would be ideal)
Gingerbread will be further optimized than anything at Samsung at the moment and will allow more modifying through a more compartmentalized android framework. I understand that even the notification bar now has it's own APK. Someone like Darkyy could really exploit this and turn the Android experience into their own (then share it).
Once a cleaner ROM is available for the Galaxy S series, it could make for speedier updates within the Dev community when compared with the Carrier controlled updates that are causing us to lash out at Samsung.
webstar1 said:
There is no point in making a rom for gingerbread as it is good the way it is and tremendously fast as well.
~Webstar1
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Android, as far as I'm concerned, is always work in progress. There will always be room for improvement, whether it be from Google, phone companys or the community.
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webstar1 said:
There is no point in making a rom for gingerbread as it is good the way it is and tremendously fast as well.
~Webstar1
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There is always room for variety, just look at the large number of froyo roms out now and being used.
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ikenley said:
It is actually to get a fully optimized stock Android experience without, Samsung's framework.
Darkyy's Rom is by far the best I have used. I used the Cyanogen Mod Rom from Aery and Coolya and thought that the performance was incredible, but it lacked all the functionality for day to day use.
You get a team together like Darkyy, Supercurio and Aery/Coolya working on a Gingerbread port, then that is a Rom worth paying for. (I'm aware that all their work would be fairly separate, but if they have a shared github, that would be ideal)
Gingerbread will be further optimized than anything at Samsung at the moment and will allow more modifying through a more compartmentalized android framework. I understand that even the notification bar now has it's own APK. Someone like Darkyy could really exploit this and turn the Android experience into their own (then share it).
Once a cleaner ROM is available for the Galaxy S series, it could make for speedier updates within the Dev community when compared with the Carrier controlled updates that are causing us to lash out at Samsung.
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Darky is just a repackager/skinner. He has probably never used github so acting like he is a pro like supercurio is actually funny.
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chambo622 said:
Darky is just a repackager/skinner. He has probably never used github so acting like he is a pro like supercurio is actually funny.
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+1 you cant put darky in the same boat as supercurio.
Although his work is pretty
Lenunited said:
+1 you cant put darky in the same boat as supercurio.
Although his work is pretty
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+1 people often mistake these repacker/skinners for real chefs.
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chambo622 said:
Darky is just a repackager/skinner. He has probably never used github so acting like he is a pro like supercurio is actually funny.
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Lenunited said:
+1 you cant put darky in the same boat as supercurio.
Although his work is pretty
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+1 people often mistake these repacker/skinners for real chefs.
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So a new thread is created to discuss the gingerbread port and keep the dev thread clean, and now it turns into a *****fest about who is and isn't a chef
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Come on ladies, put the handbags down and keep to the topic intended
Noob question: So the current demo by supercurio is actually the system dump from the Nexus S running on the Galaxy S right? Now that the source code for gingerbread is available, what all needs to be done to get it running on the Galaxy S?
webstar1 said:
There is no point in making a rom for gingerbread as it is good the way it is and tremendously fast as well.
~Webstar1
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XDA developers,mean competition ,more solution & big choise of idea & new quality m8
when we will have one Gingerbread Rom than we will have no choise & that mean non development at list
FlanFlinger said:
So a new thread is created to discuss the gingerbread port and keep the dev thread clean, and now it turns into a *****fest about who is and isn't a chef
Come on ladies, put the handbags down and keep to the topic intended
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yup ,childish chit-chat
FlanFlinger said:
So a new thread is created to discuss the gingerbread port and keep the dev thread clean, and now it turns into a *****fest about who is and isn't a chef
Come on ladies, put the handbags down and keep to the topic intended
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Well it is a discussion thread lol. We started off with some guy that Gingerbread was completely perfect and would need no improvements
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FlanFlinger said:
So a new thread is created to discuss the gingerbread port and keep the dev thread clean, and now it turns into a *****fest about who is and isn't a chef
Come on ladies, put the handbags down and keep to the topic intended
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You have a point but I suggest those who cook ROMs and REPACK ROMs REFRAIN from making obvious advertisment of their ROMs in this thread.
This thread is for Team CM and Supercurio's current project.
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To start of with, leave the *****ing out! Discuss about Nexus S/Gingerbread port ONLY.
On a good note, seems the button mapping is nearly sorted according to Supercurios Twitter
I do not have talent when it comes to working with porting roms but I do know that our Hero dev team is one of the best. I am looking for people to help port this Evo rom that I found to our Hero. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144447 The OP said that we could work on the port when I asked him through PM
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I do not have talent when it comes to working with porting roms but I do know that our Hero dev team is one of the best. I am looking for people to help port this Evo rom that I found to our Hero. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144447 The OP said that we could work on the port when I asked him through PM
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Awesome!
if this is possible i might keep my hero haha
There is currently work being done to port over a sense 3.0 /gingerbread rom. It is very difficult to make work on the heroc... Is this rom from a cdma or gsm?
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If you want a rom like that, buy an evo. This is the hero c We have half the processing power, mdpi screens, no flash support, and way less internal memory.
Be happy with 2.3.4 gingerbread, even running it is a small miracle.
Edit: The big thing about that rom is all the high powered features. Netflix and the like just aren't possible on the hero as far as I know c Buy an Evo or try the port that's already been mentioned
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If you want a rom like that, buy and evo. This is the hero c We have half the processing power, mdpi screens, no flash support, and way less internal memory.
Be happy with 2.3.4 gingerbread, even running it is a small miracle.
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Even if it were possible to get half the stuff from that rom working, it would be slow as molasses, buggy as a bees nest, and probably not worth the effort (except maybe from a "just to see if I can do it" standpoint). like ruby said, most of that is made for better hardware, and after you take all that out, you've just got rosie 3.0....
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Tk's gingersense rom is more than enough for me..
and the way things are moving along with it I don't think it will be to much longer before everything is fully functional. :]
yea as far as porting that rom to the heroc you are looking at alot of work esp since sense is closed source and the evo uses an ARM7 processor and the hero has an ARM6. this is also why there has been little luck with a MIUI rom for us too
myn is an awesome guy and i have been using his roms forever (since donut), and trust me i would love to see this on the heroC infact if you flash tazz4.1 in the gingersense thread myn's wallpaper is the default along with the TwoPointTwo theme, but sadly its just not likely since the 2 phones are very different.
Why is this in the development section? Seriously? What made you think this went here?
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Why is this in the development section? Seriously? What made you think this went here?
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It is something that would need developed? Plus putting it in the dev section is the best way to attract dev's attention. Seriously? What made you think to post this question?
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It is something that would need developed? Plus putting it in the dev section is the best way to attract dev's attention. Seriously? What made you think to post this question?
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No, the best way to attract the dev's attention is to PM the dev.
You don't put a link to a ROM that is not even remotely started for our device with the tag "[Port]" and the title "Amazing Rom!!". Is this rocket science to you?
If you named it something more along the lines of "[WIP/Devs Needed] Possible Synergy Port?" That would have made way more sense. Instead, there's people clicking on this and assuming it's a ROM, and then we'll have pages and pages of people asking for ETAs (or even possibly people trying to flash the Synergy ROM from your link).
Did you even bother to look and see what the current Sense Gingerbread build status was? Or did you assume that just because a dev of a ROM for an entirely different (and way higher specced device, I might add) told you in a PM that you have his permission to port the ROM, that it was logical to make a thread about it?
The most logical thing to do would have been to ask thoughtlesskyle what he thought of the idea of porting it, as he obviously is the most experienced porter on the HeroC forums now that NFX and Zenulator have left.
But it's ok, you're right, you're not a dev, and this thread will probably go for a few pages and then die when people realize that this isn't going to happen. TK is doing insanely great work on the port we already have, this is just a waste of time.
In all honesty, the only waste of time here was your long rant about a screw up in the title. Apparently you are mister amazing and never made a single mistake. I forgot that you were the golden boy of XDA. Oh wait, you are not. You are just a regular person with a little more experience on the site than me. I purposely put the misconceptious title in there so that it would attract more people. When you say [Devs Needed] a lot of people pass it over. Now if you would spend your time developing instead of figuring out ways to insult people over a website. I realize that this rom is very advanced and its about 95 percent positive that it never would or could get ported but at the same time thats exactly what was said about froyo and gingerbread....but guess what, they did! Now obviously it would not run as smooth or anything but it would be quite nice just to see that we could.
dude go to hell are you seriously flaming liquid right now? obviously you being a noob you have no idea what hes done for the heroc community, you made a mistake and your at fault here so stop trying to put it on someone else and and man the [email protected]#ck up!
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In all honesty, the only waste of time here was your long rant about a screw up in the title. ......I purposely put the misconceptious title in there so that it would attract more people. When you say [Devs Needed] a lot of people pass it over.
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Exactly. That's the point.
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Bierce22 said:
dude go to hell are you seriously flaming liquid right now? obviously you being a noob you have no idea what hes done for the heroc community, you made a mistake and your at fault here so stop trying to put it on someone else and and man the [email protected]#ck up!
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Just because he has done a lot does not mean he is not a ****. Just because I've been here a short while, i am not a true noob. I knew quite a bit about android before ever coming here. I realize my screw up was bad and i admitted that but that does not excuse his attitude. I never put my fault on him, i put his own on him. Case in point go "[email protected]#ck" yourself....btw there is not 5 letters in the word you are referring to.
you say your not a noob but u go around asking questions like this?
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Hey guys i just used the RUU and then re-rooted. My question is what setup do you guys suggest. Im not just talking about which rom i should use this time (i was previously using cm 7.0.3). I mean what ROM, KERNEL, MODS, SCRPITS, PATCHES, ETC. I want my phone to be as fast as possible because i am tired of the hero's lag. I love my phone but frankly i have got to speed it up since im still like 4 months from getting a new phone (Hopefully a Nexus 3!!)
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you say your not a noob but u go around asking questions like this?
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Ive been rooted and all of that for months. The reason i asked that is because obviously i have not tried everything out there, no one has. I wanted to get peoples feed back on different things they have tried that maybe i have not seen before. It was not my first time doing all of that stuff and in all honesty i just wanted something "Fresh" on my phone. I did not want to use the usual CM7 with fr partition and ram optimizer. I wanted to get a different result. Obviously I could go out and test multiple combos together but I was hoping to get the whole communities feed back since our hero is starting to stand on its last leg and we have all had time to test multiple things.
i just reported this thread to a moderator and u should be banned from xda.
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Hi
MIUI Dev Team is having a survey on Facebook on which phone should be the next to receive MIUI V4 which is based on Android Ice Cream Sandwhich
So vote for Galaxy S2
https://www.facebook.com/questions/264670886925827/
here are some screenshots of MIUI V4
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Sorry to disappoint you...but MIUI cannot make it happen for our beloved SGS2 because CM9 is not release yet....so better vote for another phone.
Firstly to the OP, this isn't the voting poll for porting of V4 for devices, its just a checker for how many device users are there, and priorities!
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Sorry to disappoint you...but MIUI cannot make it happen for our beloved SGS2 because CM9 is not release yet....so better vote for another phone.
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Exactly! MIUI are a bunch of dumbs who just know porting, they cannot dev! Only theme, no disrespect to themers here, I just feel they are too closed source! They won't even touch SGS2 until a stable port of CM9 is released!
LOL, just have a look at their changelogs, rubbish! No changes for SGS2 from ages, they cannot fix things! MIUI is still the same for us since the official support began!</rant>
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Really? A bunch of dumbs?
Theres too much bashing to the miui peeps. Just because they're basing their rom on cm it doesn't mean they don't know their ****.
Have you actually used a miui rom to have such claims? They've added ****loads of features that aren't present on cm. You should know that.
Just because they dont work on lower level stuff or doing any kernel work doesnt mean they're not developers.
Get your facts straight and stop repeating what nosey "pro" developers claim around here.
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Just vote, we don't care what you think about MIUI guys
You're right, apologies. I got carried away
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Really? A bunch of dumbs?
Theres too much bashing to the miui peeps. Just because they're basing their rom on cm it doesn't mean they don't know their ****.
Have you actually used a miui rom to have such claims? They've added ****loads of features that aren't present on cm. You should know that.
Just because they dont work on lower level stuff or doing any kernel work doesnt mean they're not developers.
Get your facts straight and stop repeating what nosey "pro" developers claim around here.
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I have used a MIUI ROM, and some additions are very nice. I do like the VERY verbose battery logger. But that doesn't change the fact that MIUI is still a derivative of CM, and until CM9 comes out I don't see a MIUI v4 for SGS2.
I'm using MIUI myself. I have to say that I hate the fact that they're close source, but the current MIUI just works way better than CM7 or TouchWiz based roms. Until CM9 is stable enough for me, I'll stick with MIUI.
To all the haters:
If you don't like it, don't flash it. If you need to complain, do it better.
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One thing though, I wish they would use less white, for better battery life.
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One thing though, I wish they would use less white, for better battery life.
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Use a dark theme.
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All this talk of MIUI being closed source, is TouchWiz open source?
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All this talk of MIUI being closed source, is TouchWiz open source?
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Is TouchWiz based on an open source Custom-ROM? I do not say that they don't have the right to make it closed source, but I don't think its good to take other peoples work and don't give them anything back.
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All this talk of MIUI being closed source, is TouchWiz open source?
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Good point. Also, MIUI guys managed to get FM radio working, in CM7 it doesn't.
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Really? A bunch of dumbs?
Theres too much bashing to the miui peeps. Just because they're basing their rom on cm it doesn't mean they don't know their ****.
Have you actually used a miui rom to have such claims? They've added ****loads of features that aren't present on cm. You should know that.
Just because they dont work on lower level stuff or doing any kernel work doesnt mean they're not developers.
Get your facts straight and stop repeating what nosey "pro" developers claim around here.
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No No No! lol, i meant they are awesomest themers! they theme damn good! But remaining closed sourced at such speedy developement times! :/
They just release weekly releases, without any actual fixes, oh yes how many fixes have the MIUI team given us since the support time? I don't hate MIUI or the Team, but they do neglect some things! Like bug fixing? trouble shooting?
And I was ranting that voting to the poll doesn't give you speedy updates! We still gotta wait for CM, MIUI will follow!
And PS - Im on MIUI just for the themes!
Sorry for the rant, no offence to any member or the miuichinese team
I really don't know..how far this voting will be considered..last time I voted for S2 and Galaxy ACE..but no updates since then...
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Firstly to the OP, this isn't the voting poll for porting of V4 for devices, its just a checker for how many device users are there, and priorities!
Exactly! MIUI are a bunch of dumbs who just know porting, they cannot dev! Only theme, no disrespect to themers here, I just feel they are too closed source! They won't even touch SGS2 until a stable port of CM9 is released!
LOL, just have a look at their changelogs, rubbish! No changes for SGS2 from ages, they cannot fix things! MIUI is still the same for us since the official support began!</rant>
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Thats funny considering miui v4 was ported to i9000 from galaxy nexus? Cm9 isnt even on i9000 yet? Miui have already said they dont use cm source, get off the bandwagon and read before posting such accusations..
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Miui have already said they dont use cm source, get off the bandwagon and read before posting such accusations
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They said it? Must be true!
Do you remember when MIUI became "official" for I9100 and how many days prior teamhacksung resolved showstopper bugs in CM7?
Kids... Go MIUI go CM9 and all other developers you deserve all best! I wish we have at least a small part of quality as communty like HD2 and tg01 in which I am active...
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They said it? Must be true!
Do you remember when MIUI became "official" for I9100 and how many days prior teamhacksung resolved showstopper bugs in CM7?
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Prove to me that miui use cm source then? Prove it..
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Prove to me that miui use cm source then? Prove it..
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Sure thing, I'll just grab their source which they share back to the community (including that GPLd kernel) and cross check it with the CM7 source to see whether there is anything matching in there.
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Thats funny considering miui v4 was ported to i9000 from galaxy nexus? Cm9 isnt even on i9000 yet? Miui have already said they dont use cm source, get off the bandwagon and read before posting such accusations..
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Decided to search this one too. 26 November 2011 [ROM][ICS][IML74K] teamhacksung's ICS Port for Galaxy S (BUILD 11), 7 December 2011 MIUI V4 - Already Ported to SGS...!
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Im just confused, no trolling intended, but are there not like 6 ics roms for the EVO in the deefv section? Or are you meaning discussion on an official Ics rom?
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Ive tested 2 builds of aokp so far, from a guy on Twitter. Neither booted. Got a black screen with the batt icon in upper right. Hoping Jared keeps up his work so I can have something that boots but I'm also hoping on some more aokp builds to test.
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MIUI just released a pre-alpha port for the Evo.
http://forums.miui.us/showthread.php?15028-LOOOOOOOK-HERE-MIUI-4-0-FOR-EEEEEEEEVOOOOOO
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What do you mean the deefv section? Did you mean the dev section....IF so, you should look again....all those are either closed or they've pulled development and took their talents to south beach...no just kidding but they did leave xda for reasons I'm not going to get into over here in this thread.
I just want to start up a discussion on what we plan to do about it....what's next....do we just sit and wait and hope that someone will come and save us all from sense roms and CM7 roms or do we do something about it.....
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The "took their talents to south beach" comment kinda stings as I am from Cleveland hahahaha
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What do you mean the deefv section? Did you mean the dev section....IF so, you should look again....all those are either closed or they've pulled development and took their talents to south beach...no just kidding but they did leave xda for reasons I'm not going to get into over here in this thread.
I just want to start up a discussion on what we plan to do about it....what's next....do we just sit and wait and hope that someone will come and save us all from sense roms and CM7 roms or do we do something about it.....
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Oh OK I see. Sorry yes I meant dev .sorry Im new to the EVO and used to the evo shift forum and not used to the huge evo forum and whatever drama. Anyway with this info I suppose CM9 will eventually come around and then other devs will come and use that as their base
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HipKat said:
MIUI just released a pre-alpha port for the Evo.
http://forums.miui.us/showthread.php?15028-LOOOOOOOK-HERE-MIUI-4-0-FOR-EEEEEEEEVOOOOOO
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Interesting...Kinda curious to see what that's about...when it gets stableish I will test it out...
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Oh OK I see. Sorry yes I meant dev .sorry Im new to the EVO and used to the evo shift forum and not used to the huge evo forum and whatever drama. Anyway with this info I suppose CM9 will eventually come around and then other devs will come and use that as their base
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Its gonna be a while before CM9 comes along...Cyanogen is known to take forever...but with good reason, they are some good Devs. With that said Jared is making some pretty nice progress with his ICS ROM
LOL South Beach... I live 15 minutes from South Beach
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Its gonna be a while before CM9 comes along...Cyanogen is known to take forever...but with good reason, they are some good Devs. With that said Jared is making some pretty nice progress with his ICS ROM
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But the problem is we should not have to wait for CyanogenMod to release CM9. We have several talented and dedicated developers right here working tirelessly around the clock to bring us a stable release, and other don't want to see this happen.
I was waiting myself for CM9 but I got to thinking. Why should I wait, how long will I be waiting, what am I missing out on right now by waiting? With all the question floating around I took the plunge and flashed JTG ICS. Now I only have one question why did I wait so long to flash?
His rom is my daily driver. I do not live in a 4g area, nor will I ever get 4g (main reason I jumped Sprints money hungry ship), so that does not matter to me. Everything else works the way I need it. Its fast, snappy and responsive.
JTG has put a lot of time and care into his rom and for whatever reason the "other powers" that are out there cant look past petty differences and move forward and continue to provide for the community. I mean its not like the Evo is brand new and has every dev crawling hand over fist to dev for this phone. We have lost devs left and right. I for one am grateful for the ones that have stayed. It does not seem like others are as appreciative as me.
Reading back on that last paragraph it seems that the "other powers" are the Steve Jobs of XDA.
Posted in the other thread as i.missed this one. Not over in the 4G forums as much as in past here so i missed the whole kushdeck drama..
Imho there should be No reason to NOT let someone use your work UNLESS your trying to make money off it which last time i checked is against the rules to begin with.
And we were talking about roms not kernel source correct from what i gather, right?
I see kushdecks Twitter post about xda and ignoring GPL but did he make kernels too?
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NO he didn't make the kernel...tiamat did, all he did was modify it. I mean last time I checked, all of this stuff is open source SO how are you going to tell someone that they can't use what is just a modified version of open source??? This whole permission and this and that has gone out of hand...is one thing to give credit and say "HEY this person made this and I thank him for that" and is another thing for the person to request that you pretty much kiss their ass! Once again, people get away with this kind of stuff because noobs....noobs will follow anyone with a rom no matter what!!
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Well tweaking a kernel would mean he would need to comply with GPL himself which I don't remember him ever linking his public git repo for source. Hell on rootzwiki right now he doesn't give it either.
Now its easily found via Google and has the branches there but not linking to it in your OP violates GPL in itself I'm pretty sure.
And I don't get the whole rootzwiki movement some make either. Have fun with less ppl giving you feedback on your stuff. If that's what you want in the end then do private versa and be done with it.
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JTG beta 4 is the closet to a fully functioning rom. It has some minor lag at times an a couple of fc here an there but its a solid rom if u don't mind ffc an camcorder not working. Been running it since it was given out to some an its solid. Combine it with a viper mod tweak an its a daily to me. My only issue is that I don't think HA is fully functional, no offense to jared, as I can tell the difference on my girlfriends ics captivate compared to the evo version. It was pointed out when everyone started attacking jared about the gray background vs black in the settings if HA was fully function which I can clearly see on my girls captivate
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Imho there should be No reason to NOT let someone use your work UNLESS your trying to make money off it which last time i checked is against the rules to begin with.
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NO he didn't make the kernel...tiamat did, all he did was modify it. I mean last time I checked, all of this stuff is open source SO how are you going to tell someone that they can't use what is just a modified version of open source??? This whole permission and this and that has gone out of hand...is one thing to give credit and say "HEY this person made this and I thank him for that" and is another thing for the person to request that you pretty much kiss their ass! Once again, people get away with this kind of stuff because noobs....noobs will follow anyone with a rom no matter what!!
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Like I said...Jared has made great progress with his build of ICS, whether its is built off of someone else's or not, he's made some nice tweaks along with Mazda. I'm using Beta 4 with Mazda's tweaks and this **** is off the chain! I mean fast, stable, no force closes that I can remember and 4.5 is on its way? Jared is the only one I have noticed that actually Updates his ROMs in a timely fashion. Deck is still on alpha 5 while Drew is on preview 6 and been that way a while now. I say go with Jared because he's doing big things out here!!!!
I agree Jared is the real deal.I think its funny that for me haters Rom was the only ice Rom to make it on my phone for more than 30 mins. Hell decks I didn't even make it past signing in
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