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Hi guys,
I'm not entirely versed in Flash but it seems everything I want to play on my Hero doesn't load. (apart from YouTube, that is.)
I'm in Denmark and I can't play any of the free Flash vids on the BBC website (interviews with football managers etc.), a lot of the more "adult natured" sites don't play, in fact, hardly anything does.
Is this normal? Is there a Flash update on the way so these things (especially the BBC stuff) will actually play? (Market app beebplayer is UK only)
Anyone else experiencing the same thing?
Thanks, in advance,
rdz
This is normal. its not a full version of flash on the hero. Adobe has said that full flash is coming to android sometime in early 2010
Ok. Thanks.
According to this Danish piece, Adobe Flash 10 is coming in October. There's a vid too:
http://androidforum.dk/2009/06/adobe-flash-player-10-kommer-til-android-i-oktober/
does that mean veoh will work with the release?
Back when I first got my G1 flash for Android was "going to be out in a few months" the whole time I had it. Now I understand the G1 was not very powerful, but the Nexus One certainly can handle flash. Thing is we "will see flash player sometime in early 2010", which is now. No flash player that is useful for anything but ad animation. Why is NBC the only ones who can dig their heads out of their a$$%s and allow viewing of online video? You Tube does not interest me, as I don't care what anyone who has figured out how to upload video will post to pander for starred ratings and people subscribing to their feeds. Hu lu would be great, online DIVX would be great, more networks like NBC would be great. Why the sandbagging? I spent the money on the phone for this capability amongst other things and would love to know why the wait.
The delay? It's not ready yet.
At least there's a lot of videos to show it's not far off now.
Android 2.1 vs. Sony Ericsson Android 1.6
When the X10 is released, it will be released with Android 1.6. We will take advantage of the additional
possibilities of Android 2.1 during the life of X10 via upgrades.
One objection you are going to encounter when presenting the X10 is: „Why does your X10 only have
Android 1.6 installed on it? The latest version is 2.1! It looks outdated!”
We all need to be prepared and knowledgeable about the differences in order to deal with the dealer's
concerns and provide them with understandable answers for their customers.
In order to do this, we first need to understand the differences between standard Android 1.6 and Android
2.1. They are:
• Integration of digital Zoom and support for LED Flash
• Support for Microsoft Exchange Active Sync (Contacts and e-mail)
• Bluetooth 2.1 support for OPP (Object Push) and PBAP (Used to transfer contact
information to a hands free)
• Live Wallpapers (Animated HTML based wallpapers)
• Multi touch support
• HTML 5 support
• Richer contact information and possibilities to integrate social network data.
However, the version of Android 1.6 installed on the Sony Ericsson X10 is not a standard. Sony Ericsson
has developed and enhanced it in many areas. So let’s have a look at the real difference
X10 1.6 Specs:
1.Cyber Shot camera with digital zoom and flash, face and smile detection easy to use cyber shot interface
2.Moxier client pre-installed
3.OPP is integrated into x10 out of the box and PBAP will be part of update
4.Live wallpapers will be part of an update
5.HTML 5 will be part of update, currently no consumer relevant website is using HTML 5
6.Sony Ericsson TIMESCAPE
I got this data I liked to share with all of u we X10 users are some how equal to Android 2.1 we should demand for 2.2 Update not for 2.1....
Now you're talking. I have been campaigning from the beginning to get people to ask for the 2.2 and not the 2.1. Ever since that petition was being passed about. Everyone thought I was crazy to push for it. I gave up trying.
However, I would say that the 1.6 will look outdated because the 2.2 is out and not the 2.1!
Also, the Timescape has it's issues. To the point that I have it removed from home screen and do not use it. And, there has been plenty of mention in regards to Timescape being related to the battery issue.
And, where is the flash for the camera? I have a light that I can manually turn on and off, but no flash. I am pretty sure this is coming with the 2.1
And, where did you hear there are no consumer relevant websites run HTML5?
I also thought there was a WIFI enhancement on the 2.1
The only problem now is that we have beat SE over the head for the 2.1. So I don't know what are chances of getting the 2.2 on this device, but I do not think they are good.
well like se added 2.1 features to 1.6,
lets expect that they add 2.2 features like flash into android 2.1....
will be a better option..
Here is a quote about the first web site I checked, Daily Motion.
"Another video titan that is fighting back against plugin prisons is DailyMotion. The popular streaming video website has launched an open video pilot program, providing a new beta version of its site that uses the HTML 5 video element to play content. As part of the pilot program, DailyMotion reencoded 300,000 videos with the open source Ogg Theora codec. Unlike many common video formats, Ogg Theora is not encumbered by known patents. It can be used and reimplemented freely without having to pay licensing costs."
The full artical can be found here. http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/05/google-dailymotion-endorse-html-5-and-standards-based-video.ars
fm1776 said:
Here is a quote about the first web site I checked, Daily Motion.
"Another video titan that is fighting back against plugin prisons is DailyMotion. The popular streaming video website has launched an open video pilot program, providing a new beta version of its site that uses the HTML 5 video element to play content. As part of the pilot program, DailyMotion reencoded 300,000 videos with the open source Ogg Theora codec. Unlike many common video formats, Ogg Theora is not encumbered by known patents. It can be used and reimplemented freely without having to pay licensing costs."
The full artical can be found here. http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/05/google-dailymotion-endorse-html-5-and-standards-based-video.ars
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I'm all for open source, and would love if every site with flash content changed it to HTML5, but Ogg Theora is no better than Flash...It's unreliable and uses a significant amount of resources.
fm1776 said:
Here is a quote about the first web site I checked, Daily Motion.
"Another video titan that is fighting back against plugin prisons is DailyMotion. The popular streaming video website has launched an open video pilot program, providing a new beta version of its site that uses the HTML 5 video element to play content. As part of the pilot program, DailyMotion reencoded 300,000 videos with the open source Ogg Theora codec. Unlike many common video formats, Ogg Theora is not encumbered by known patents. It can be used and reimplemented freely without having to pay licensing costs."
The full artical can be found here. http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/05/google-dailymotion-endorse-html-5-and-standards-based-video.ars
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There are few things worth remembering:
1. No consumer has launched any HTML5 versions as anything other than betas or previews.
2. HTML5 is not a ratified standard, it's a draft. Which leads me on to the next point.
3. The video tag is just that, a tag. It doesn't dictate which codec or container you should use. Currently there are 2 1/2 players: h.264, webm and ogg/vorbis.
H264 is backed up by Apple, so I expect it to have atleast some traction. WebM is backed by Google, meaning YouTube supports it. I'm not familiar with any big names backing OGG but I'm sure there are others beside FSF.
H264 is a great format but sadly it's encumbered by patents as well as a royalty fee which might pose a problem in the future whereas WebM is a royalty-free project. So personally I'm leaning towards WebM coming out as the big "winner" in this battle.
Ranting aside, putting all ones hope into HTML5 as it stands right now is a little risky as it's subject to change and hasn't been locked down yet. Every major player in the web browser business supports the tag currently, including Android as of version 2.0 or 2.1 (can't be bothered to wikipedia it). So the support for it is universal and once a standard has been ratified we can expect it to be adopted by all major video sites. Until then flash is king and luckily the biggest video-site, YouTube, has both iOS and Android apps for it so we can atleast watch LOLcats and FailBlog.
chris_knows said:
I'm all for open source, and would love if every site with flash content changed it to HTML5, but Ogg Theora is no better than Flash...It's unreliable and uses a significant amount of resources.
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ABC and CBS have both confirmed that they will be dumping Adobe and going with HTML 5. Only bad news might be that they might charge like itunes to view content.
The door is starting to swing wide open.
Not only will X10 get the 2.1 upgrade, it will also get the 2.2 Upgrade. I have a close friend who works at SE (Senior Figure) and that information is supplied by him. No dates are forthcoming at the moment. So please don't bombard this Post asking for dates.
Found some information to confirm this posted back in Mar 10:
http://phandroid.com/2010/03/10/xperia-x10-to-get-android-2-1-then-2-2/
Hope this helps you all..
well all get android 2.2 when the great devs give us custom roms, which will be long before se get it to us!
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fm1776 said:
ABC and CBS have both confirmed that they will be dumping Adobe and going with HTML 5. Only bad news might be that they might charge like itunes to view content.
The door is starting to swing wide open.
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You misunderstood me; HTML5 = Good, Ogg = Bad. Check out this link as to why Flash is not going away for at least another few years...
gizmodo.com/5461711/giz-explains-why-html5-isnt-going-to-save-the-internet
FYI for those looking to get MKV support & accelerated H264 playback on the Xoom, may want to petition Moto and ask them to license CoreAVC for Android,
http://twitter.com/CoreCodec/status/42963261569777664
Hopefully, CorePlayer to come soon.
e.mote said:
FYI for those looking to get MKV support & accelerated H264 playback on the Xoom, may want to petition Moto and ask them to license CoreAVC for Android,
http://twitter.com/CoreCodec/status/42963261569777664
Hopefully, CorePlayer to come soon.
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I used that years ago on an older Windows desktop that would not play any MKV reliably and it worked great.
posted it on their forum:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/46992
onicrom said:
posted it on their forum:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/46992
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Thanks... added my two pennies.
http://twitter.com/corecodec
GunmanTheH:
@CoreCodec Hope retail will come soon
CoreCodec:
@GunmanTheH the plan is to get it out asap, preferably by mid-month to retail.
Excellent. CorePlayer was my go to player on Windows Mobile. Hopefully this'll be available when I get my Xoom next month.
I dunno if moto would even be able to include this in the zoom, because it's a Google experience device. I will post on their forums tho along with you all.
Maybe Google needs to be made aware of this.
It would be awesome for MKV vids, but will it help out with other formats, as well?
I think getting the retail version will be the faster and more expedient route for most, as waiting for the firmware route, even if Moto is responsive, will take weeks or months.
However, it's important to let Moto know that you, as their customers, consider this feature as important and want it incorporated into the firmware. This allows derivative custom ROMs to also include the software on a quasi-legal basis, as the OEM license could be argued as being applicable for the device regardless of the firmware used.
@arrtoodeetoo
Supported formats in the link below are for CorePlayer,
http://corecodec.com/products/coreplayer
Note that the two popular audio codecs used mostly in "downloadable" HD videos (DTS and AC3) are not among the list. Betaboy (CC dev) has explicitly confirmed that AC3 won't be supported.
That means that those who have said videos will need to convert their audio tracks. This is fairly simple and fast (and can be batch processed), taking only minutes per full-length video.
Looking forward to this going live and hearing how it plays out.
Here are the platform-specific errata notes for CorePlayer.
http://forums.corecodec.com/threads/402-**-CorePlayer-Platform-Specific-Limitations-and-Notes
Ignore the list (it's 4 years old). The thing to note is the CC dev's remark below:
"Limitations are gonna be hard to pinpoint atm as there really is none other then bluetooth limitations. Codecs will become less of an issue as we will have in app purchasing for additional codecs."
Damn... I haven't used Core since my last winmo phone... I hope they don't charge to much for codecs. 1 or 2 bucks a pop each.
Wow I still have my COreplayer install file from my 5 year old phone! I would Love to see this on Honeycomb
PLz Moto Make it so!
I just posted on the thread at the Motorola Owner's forum. I am not holding out a tremendous amount of hope for OEM licensing, but CorePlayer should do the trick.
Regardless of whether Moto will or won't license Core, they need to know that the Xoom's multimedia support is awful. They won't know unless we tell them. From the Moto admin's responses, they're clueless.
http://twitter.com/corecodec
Re: Core - To clarify, the retail version mentioned as being released soonish is likely the CorePlayer 2.0 for Android & iOS. CoreAVC 2.5 is available to devs & OEMs, and will be available to Win/Lin/Mac (not Droid/iOS) end-users later.
CorePlayer notwithstanding, I still can't imagine that Nvidia would be content with having the entire wave of Tegra2 tabs being stuck with no accelerated multimedia support.
You can voice your queries about the Tegra2 multimedia support here,
http://tegradeveloper.nvidia.com/tegra/forums/tegra-forums/android-development
Hi everyone.
Recently i have updated my galaxy tab 10.1 wifi to touchwiz ux. I haven't rooted my tab, so i got all stock roms.
The tab was so so good and smooth before touchwiz. I was playing any video format with the stock video player. After updating to touchwiz, i got "sorry, this video cannot be played" for mp4 videos. So, the touchwiz has removed the video support.
Can anyone give me the site or email to contact Samsung support and ask them:
Will u roll an update to resolve Touchwiz bugs?
Thanks,
Sultan,
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/contact#
Just shoot a tweet to Koush. I heard he got a sweet gig there.
Sultan.MA said:
Hi everyone.
Recently i have updated my galaxy tab 10.1 wifi to touchwiz ux. I haven't rooted my tab, so i got all stock roms.
The tab was so so good and smooth before touchwiz. I was playing any video format with the stock video player. After updating to touchwiz, i got "sorry, this video cannot be played" for mp4 videos. So, the touchwiz has removed the video support.
Can anyone give me the site or email to contact Samsung support and ask them:
Will u roll an update to resolve Touchwiz bugs?
Thanks,
Sultan,
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Try the number in the link that JYE75 posted. I find it surprising that you're having problems playing videos after Touchwiz.... my 2nd Tab (3rd one is on the way) played those types od videos with no problems both before and after the update. Hope they get it resolved for you.
I love Samsung for quick and easy support... have you ever tried to get something from HTC?
https://twitter.com/#!/SamsungSupport
By the way, your "bug" is "working as intended".
ItsDace said:
I love Samsung for quick and easy support... have you ever tried to get something from HTC?
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Not sure what HTC support is like for carrier phones, but the couple of times I had issues with my N1 they had overnight cross-shipped replacements to me without any complaint.
tdavis42 said:
Just shoot a tweet to Koush. I heard he got a sweet gig there.
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Koush got hired by Samsung too? I didn't know that, I know that they grabbed Cyanogen.
Sultan.MA said:
Hi everyone.
Recently i have updated my galaxy tab 10.1 wifi to touchwiz ux. I haven't rooted my tab, so i got all stock roms.
The tab was so so good and smooth before touchwiz. I was playing any video format with the stock video player. After updating to touchwiz, i got "sorry, this video cannot be played" for mp4 videos. So, the touchwiz has removed the video support.
Can anyone give me the site or email to contact Samsung support and ask them:
Will u roll an update to resolve Touchwiz bugs?
Thanks,
Sultan,
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not sure why it is not working for you? I converted a bunch of videos to mp4 before touchwiz update. After the update I removed RockPlayer because the stock touchwiz video app played all my videos flawlessly, including the ones I converted for 5.1 surround sound...
OP is correct. It was widely reported that TW update won't play certain H.264 video encoded with certain profiles which plays fine in 3.1 non-TW ROM. Check the earlier TW threads and you will find all the complaints there. I suspect Samsung will roll up any of these fixes into next ROM updates instead of releasing a quick fix. Of course, next ROM updates will also come with new bugs.
EDIT: see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1203895&highlight=touchwiz+h.264
Ironically my experience is exactly the opposite of the OP. I often received the message that a video couldn't be played on my Tab. I had downloaded 3 other players to be able to play all the video I had.
Once Touchwiz installed that went away and it will now play all of my videos in the supplied video player.