Got this from my local news. They are citing an AP report. I hope I did this right and can post a link to it. How ironic it starts a week before they release the SIII
http://www.wtae.com/news/local/-/9681086/14785656/-/68ae1v/-/index.html
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Yup, Verizon's plans are bat**** crazy and ridiculous (not that this is new): http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/12/verizon-share-everything-data-plans-go-live-june-28/
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Yup, Verizon's plans are bat**** crazy and ridiculous (not that this is new): http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/12/verizon-share-everything-data-plans-go-live-june-28/
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I agree. Benefit the non-smart phone users now. Rediculous. I'm thinking about calling and complaining enough about this to get a Galaxy Nexus or Rezound for now.
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I agree. Benefit the non-smart phone users now. Rediculous. I'm thinking about calling and complaining enough about this to get a Galaxy Nexus or Rezound for now.
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I'd leave Verizon altogether if I were you.
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I'd leave Verizon altogether if I were you.
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If I could I would. Service sucks for everything else over here. Plus I still got unlimited so screw them.
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Okay, some fine print time.
Fine Print #1
Those who wish to stay with their current setup of 4GB of double data are able to do so. You will be allowed to upgrade with it, keep it, etc. So if the shared plan is not financially beneficial to you, don't sweat it.
Fine Print #2
Yes, those with unlimited will lose it. ONLY WHEN THEY UPGRADE. So if you never upgrade, you don't lose it for the foreseeable future. Do what I've been doing for years. Buy your phones off craigslist. Meet the seller at a Verizon, let a rep check the ESN and make sure you're not getting scammed with a stolen phone, and call it a day. I picked up my Nexus for $200 on Craigslist, the same cost it sells for at Verizon WITH CONTRACT. This will enable you to keep your unlimited.
The prices on this benefit a lot of people. Consider this:
2 line family plan, both smartphones
99.99 for 700 minutes & unlimited texting
30 for 2GB
30 for 2GB
=$160 a month
Under new plan:
$70 for unlimited talk and text, 4GB of data shared, now with free tethering
40 for 1 phone
40 for other phone
= $150 a month. $10 savings, same GB overall, now unlimited minutes.
I'm not saying this plan is perfect, or that it works for everyone. But the nice part is, if you don't want it, you're not being forced into it. It's an option that's available, and if it benefits you (and it truly does benefit a lot of people. Not everyone, but a lot) then more power to you.
I'll do glad that I am not on Verizon anymore because they are too expensive for their own good.
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The real problem with them is that the market is not competitive. Being the biggest network means people will pay whatever ridiculous price they ask without really looking at their other options. I think Straight Talk should offer a $45/month unlimited everything, bring your own device program on Verizon like they do on AT&T and T-Mobile
Verizon smartphone users already **** bricks when they hear how I pay $45/month, don't have a contract, have unlimited everything, and have virtually identical coverage.
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The real problem with them is that the market is not competitive. Being the biggest network means people will pay whatever ridiculous price they ask without really looking at their other options. I think Straight Talk should offer a $45/month unlimited everything, bring your own device program on Verizon like they do on AT&T and T-Mobile
Verizon smartphone users already **** bricks when they hear how I pay $45/month, don't have a contract, have unlimited everything, and have virtually identical coverage.
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They do; Straight Talk re-sells service on all 4 carriers, but you can't bring your own phone for Verizon or Sprint because they won't activate phones that aren't branded by them (even if it's a phone from their own network, it has to be used only directly on their network). There are other limitations like having to reprogram the phone, but the main issue is getting them to activate it, which they don't do.
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http://www.mobilebusinessbriefing.c...ked-to-data-pricing-strategy-switch-next-week
10 GB !
i don't even touch that.....
so this won't really affect me though...
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.... Now its a thread.
10 GB !
i don't even touch that.....
so this won't really affect me though...
.... Now its a thread.
I'm reading for non smart phone devices only. Tabs, air cards etc.
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I'm reading for non smart phone devices only. Tabs, air cards etc.
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Ah! That is more like it. Hesse just did the whole "not believing in data caps" promo. Also the only reason I am still on Sprint.
Do you BONSAI?
If this is TRUE. I will jump ship. Everyone I know is with Verizon and their network here is much larger, than Sprint. I stayed with them because of the unlimited Data Plans. I use data for work, CC, Navigation, Pandora, Weather, etc. You get the picture.
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If this is TRUE. I will jump ship. Everyone I know is with Verizon and their network here is much larger, than Sprint. I stayed with them because of the unlimited Data Plans. I use data for work, CC, Navigation, Pandora, Weather, etc. You get the picture.
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If it applies to smartphone users, and you seriously use more than 10gb/mo:
A) Verizon has no plan for you.
B) you are less than 1/10 of 1% of Sprint's data consumers and they will NOT miss you.
What will be the prices and limits for Verizon's tiered plan.
Was bound to happen....all the users on bragging about their data usage and wifi tethering
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I'm reading for non smart phone devices only. Tabs, air cards etc.
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The thread should be closed after this. The rest is just irrelevant.
From what I'm reading, this will be a really good thing, as it will give us the option to perhaps switch to cheaper plans. I would not touch anything near 10GB, and 5GB would be perfect for me....
It seems like no one is reading the article including the original poster. This only applies for non-smartphone devices. This thread title should be revised or this thread should be closed.
Where did you see that? I saw no mention of this being for non smartphone users
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No where did I read its only for dumb phones!!
Sprint better tread carefully,Dont want to piss pf consumers with more charges.
As they become more like Verizon,what would be the reason to stay with them?
As stated its for non smartphone customers but how long before they touch us in the wallet too.
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From what I'm reading, this will be a really good thing, as it will give us the option to perhaps switch to cheaper plans. I would not touch anything near 10GB, and 5GB would be perfect for me....
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Ah, but will this take me out of Premiere status if I drop below $90? Save a few bucks here or get a new phone every year...decisions, decisions.
And here are the other "rumor" articles that state it's for data cards only:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ta-structure-for-embedded-devices-not-phones/
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Where did you see that? I saw no mention of this being for non smartphone users
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When I think of Sprint, the first thought that comes to mind is CEO Dan Hesse standing on a pier talking about being truly unlimited. I’m sure that he really does like the idea of being truly unlimited… but only when phones are concerned. You see, Sprint is reportedly going to take a different stance when it comes to data connection cards and embedded devices, such as tablets and netbooks.
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Tiered plans not so bad
My current phone data plan costs $80 a month for unlimited, and I only use a couple hundred megs a month at most. If I could drop that by almost $50 as a result of my being a light user, I'd love it.
I forgot where I saw an article about it, maybe it was for AT&T/iPhone, but the notion of variable rate based on your use seems like a good idea to me. Start out at a base (that $35/mo for 3gb isn't too bad) that notches up when you cross a line, and becomes more bulk friendly as you go, and every month it resets to the base. If I went really heavy on data usage for a month, my bill would be at that $80 unlimited point, but if I went sparingly I'd only get charged $35 for under 3gb, or maybe $55 for 8gb before hitting the 'unlimited' mark at say 10gb.
My phone is a tool, a convenience to make my life better in some minor form. It does not make me who I am as a person, and it would be nice to have that reflected in my wallet as a result.
Yes this only goes for non-phone devices. Only affects things like tablets, usb modems, etc. The article 2 posts above clarifies and even shows a graph for detail.
Note that the 450 plan will get 300 bonus minutes, so it is essentially 750 minutes, plus unlimited data for your phone.
EDIT: You get 300 bonus minutes if you get a tab, usb modem, etc. and one of the new tiered data plans.
2nd EDIT: It seems it would be cheaper and do it legit and only pay $30/month on Sprint's mobile hotspot for your phone (and get UNLIMITED DATA that way) instead of paying $34.99 for even the 3GB plan, since these new plans for the non-phone devices requires you to sign up for a phone plan anyways.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/2...-verizon-july-7-packages-start-at-30-for-2gb/
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Glad I have unlimited and keeping fingers crossed that when I get a 4g phone I can keep the unlimited.
Sh*t like this is why I'm leaving Verizon after my contract ends later this year. Also,
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/2...ming-employees-of-impending-tiered-data-plans is Verizon's letter to their emplyees explaining how suddenly capping data plans is a 'good' thing.
If and when I lose unlimited, I'm going to att.. Unlimited is the only reason I stayed this long.. They have bent me over with gps oh blackberry, to try and sell vz navigater.. now there sticking it to me with teathering. And there shoving bing down my throat.. Verizon is the scum of the industry, and I'm
gonna push everyone I know into other choices
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If and when I lose unlimited, I'm going to att.. Unlimited is the only reason I stayed this long.. They have bent me over with gps oh blackberry, to try and sell vz navigater.. now there sticking it to me with teathering. And there shoving bing down my throat.. Verizon is the scum of the industry, and I'm
gonna push everyone I know into other choices
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AT&T is just as bad. Their data prices are only $5 less and so far don't include LTE.
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lol, everyone knew this was coming... just have to accept it and move on not like we can change it
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Not thatI support Verizon on this but I thought At&t already went to a tiered plan too. If you don't stay with verizon, your only choice left is really Sprint ...and that isn't much of a choice in my book. T-mobile is good in terms of customer service and pricing but their coverage is the weakest out of the bunch.
I figured that was coming ever since AT%T announced and implemented theirs. Sprint will probably be next. And didn’t Verizon said they will not convert to a tier data plan before?
My understanding is-if you already have unlimited data, you get to keep it..and there has to be a way to swindle your way into keeping it when you go to renew...they'd be stupid to lose a customer looking to upgrade to a new phone who's been on unlimited data.
I know in 2012 (my renewal update) I'll def give them hell if I try to upgrade to 4g and they say I lose my unlimited-I'll keep my fascinate just out of spite then because frankly this phone kicks major butt anyways
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My understanding is-if you already have unlimited data, you get to keep it..and there has to be a way to swindle your way into keeping it when you go to renew...they'd be stupid to lose a customer looking to upgrade to a new phone who's been on unlimited data.
I know in 2012 (my renewal update) I'll def give them hell if I try to upgrade to 4g and they say I lose my unlimited-I'll keep my fascinate just out of spite then because frankly this phone kicks major butt anyways
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The problem is the way they tie phones to plans. So even if you buy a new phone straight up they might make it be "incompatible" with your current plan.
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The problem is the way they tie phones to plans. So even if you buy a new phone straight up they might make it be "incompatible" with your current plan.
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I'm assuming they will implement it in their system. So when people upgrade or renew their plan they will be forced into the new system with the excuse that they cant do anything since the computer will default you into the plan.
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I'm assuming they will implement it in their system. So when people upgrade or renew their plan they will be forced into the new system with the excuse that they cant do anything since the computer will default you into the plan.
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then you dont renew your plan and just buy the phone outright... it would be worth it imo to keep unlimited data!
You guys need to stop drinking the internet FUD kool-aid and read:
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It's still ****ty for new customers, but any one on Verizon now or before the 7th is fine. How long are we all fine....well, we will see. But I would imagine it would be for at least a couple to a few years.
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You guys need to stop drinking the internet FUD kool-aid and read:
It's still ****ty for new customers, but any one on Verizon now or before the 7th is fine. How long are we all fine....well, we will see. But I would imagine it would be for at least a couple to a few years.
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existing customers are fine until their contract ends and they want to upgrade to the latest phone. Then they lose their unlimted data unless you buy phone from someone or ebay and no change to contract is done.
I am off contract with the fascinate and loving it. I traded a guy my incredible with 2.3 and he thought he was getting the better deal. I am thinking of upgrading before july 7 to the charge so I can get unlimited 4g. Please convince me not too, b/c I really dont have 300 bones to dish out.
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You guys need to stop drinking the internet FUD kool-aid and read:
It's still ****ty for new customers, but any one on Verizon now or before the 7th is fine. How long are we all fine....well, we will see. But I would imagine it would be for at least a couple to a few years.
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I would believe this but.....every phone I activate at work clearly defines it as 3G or 4G in the system, 4G is always accompanied by a RTR code, which I assume is retroactive. and any brochure you look at will say 3g smartphone data, or smartphone and has no mention of 4G. Verizon has cleverly drawn the line.....soooo yes you may keep your 3g phone on unlimited but dont count on getting it with 4g, unless you get it before july 7th... just my two cents, based on experience
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The problem is the way they tie phones to plans. So even if you buy a new phone straight up they might make it be "incompatible" with your current plan.
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EXACTLY!!!! case in point, try sticking a smartphone on the Nationwide Connect family share plan....NWC was a plan that bundled unlim text, mobile web(not full data) and whatever voice plan.....smartphones are not compatible with these plans and must be changed
Just make sure you keep your existing plan. Im still sporting an Alltel plan, at least 4 years old, and three phones ago.
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You guys need to stop drinking the internet FUD kool-aid and read:
It's still ****ty for new customers, but any one on Verizon now or before the 7th is fine. How long are we all fine....well, we will see. But I would imagine it would be for at least a couple to a few years.
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Perhaps I am being over critical but so what if we keep our current pricing, it's the data that is changing. It does not say your data will not be tiered at 2gb for the same price.
This is bad news for everyone as this will likely be the case with T-Mobile when AT&T completes the aquisition. I'm afraid Sprint will be next. No more Pandora Radio, navigation or other worry free data consumption. I hope there will be a strong consumer backlash. Almost no competition in the market now.
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This really does suck!
What's the point of 4g. Everyone will be looking for Starbucks with WiFi. Now I have no choice but to stay with Sprint and lately I have not been happy with the slower data.
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Whats going to happen is they are going to start charging people like $1000, these people will not pay and swap carriers. I've seen people blindsided with crazy high fees on limited data plans before.
BTW I refuse to put a plan on my tablet. Prices are crazy. I just do everything off wifi including caching GPS infomation.
Despite what they tell you and the corporate lingo in their statements (ie "We are committed to providing world class service to our customers, blah blah blah") the shareholders are all they care about. Consumers have no power in a market with no competition.
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Not buying has a lot of power. Unfortunately majority of business users will not care. Although SB may fight if they get a crazy high bill. We did it once when someone racked up a huge bill surfing on his phone.
This will force everyone to use WiFi rather than their wireless carrier...
Glad I'm on sprint! But come on now, how greedy can you get?!?!?!? Companies find a way to make money and just run with it huh? This is definatly a bad idea!
I guess they want to protect their bandwidth without having to build out their network. Money invested in the network = smaller executive bonuses.
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All I can say is "Highway Robbery" with those prices. I'm glad I'm in a contract, and switched when I did.
Why are they even enabling Netflix/Skype then when GB is actually released... This is a total Sham-wow
Sprint Marketing says otherwise......They arent going tier'd anytime soon...They may make you pay for it though (10 dollar premium data charge!)
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All I can say is "Highway Robbery" with those prices. I'm glad I'm in a contract, and switched when I did.
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How nice of them to include personal email at no extra charge. Oh thank you Verizon overlords! I will sing your praises!
i feel sorry for new subscribers. All this new media and cloud services and now capped data. terrible
Yeah our family will be forced to stay with Sprint now and continue renewing for unlimited data. The choices that a competitive market should provide are gone. Please FCC, do not approve the AT&T / T-Mobile merger.
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If people already didn't try to use mainly wifi, they are now.
I feel for you guys. I lucked out with my unlimited data with alltel grandfathered to at&t.
I can't believe they would do that!
Behold the power of greed... though just to buck the system I may try to hook up an old 56k modem to my Eris (what CAN'T this little phone do!) and use that for my data needs... bulky, excessive, and completely insane... but if I can give the finger to the man I'll gladly go to radio shack for some parts!
Well don't know the American system but here in BE we always have been capped.
And the prices as it stands here are more insane.
We are free to use our provider and can switch anytime we wan't with any phone since we use SIM cards but for example a normal phone user can easily spend 30€or 42$ for a contract with allot of calling included but with only 250mb - 500mb traffic allowed.
You really need to do heavy research for Smartphone users as to who is the cheapest and gives the most.
Probably still not enough for the most of you lol
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Its just another sad attempt to charge people more money. They do not care about making customers happy. They just want to make as much money as possible, nothing else. But the sad part is most people will roll over and accept it.
I got grandfathered for the $30 unlimited plan. Any phone i get is always unlimited for $30, even any other phone on my plan.
Wish i could switch to sprints unlimited everything for 99 bucks but sprint is a dead zone here :/
AT&T wanted to do what Verizon is doing, $30 for 3 gb $50 for 5 gb. its getting to that point where everyone might be shafted into going into sprint...
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AT&T wanted to do what Verizon is doing, $30 for 3 gb $50 for 5 gb. its getting to that point where everyone might be shafted into going into sprint...
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More like getting shafted into eating the cost, or not having a phone. AT&T and Verizon charging ridiculous rates for data, T-Mobile compressing all of your images, Sprint's service being utterly horrible, MetroPCS with terrible phone choices and no 3G service in my area, and other issues. MVNOs either run on Sprint and suffer signal issues and slow data speeds, or run on AT&T and get small data caps (hi H2O wireless) or get throttled to 500kbps (Red Pocket, AT&T GoPhone).
In terms of speed and price, T-Mobile is still good, but why bother browsing if every web page looks like 1997 vomited all over it? The only thing missing is Geocities and an annoying midi file looping in the background. I don't understand how they think they're going to get away with severe image compression when 720x1280 is the new Android flagship standard resolution.
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AT&T wanted to do what Verizon is doing, $30 for 3 gb $50 for 5 gb. its getting to that point where everyone might be shafted into going into sprint...
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Since when did Verizon have $30 for 3gb? It's 2gb for $30.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/plans/?page=single
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Its just another sad attempt to charge people more money. They do not care about making customers happy. They just want to make as much money as possible, nothing else. But the sad part is most people will roll over and accept it.
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Well.... it is, after all, a business.
Also, I was selling even back when we had unlimited data plans. Guess what? People were complaining & *****ing then.
Guess what? People are still *****ing now. Consumers are never happy.
Verizon had the 4 gb for 30 bucks. my bad.
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With Sprint's Vision plan coming into fruition in the next several years, voice and data coverage and speed should improve. Hopefully they continue to keep the unlimited data plans and if they do, then you will probably see a lot of people jump to Sprint.
That was a xmas promo. lol. Thats as good as saying AT&T HAD unlimited.
So I'm sure most of you are aware of this whole AT&T Data Sharing thats coming out near the end of august. I was just doing some math on the whole thing and had it confirmed by a representative on the phone...turns out, it makes no sense. Shocking.
For a family of 5 such as my situation, we have 4 smart phones and 1 non-smartphone.
As the charts shows (which I cant post since Im too new), it breaks down like this...
4GB
$70 base price
$40 / smartphone
$30 / normal phone
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$54 / smartphone
$44 / normal phone
6GB
$90 base price
$35 / smartphone
$30 / normal phone
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$53 / smartphone
$48 / normal phone
10GB
$120 base price
$30 / smartphone
$30 / normal phone
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$54 / smartphone
$54 / normal phone
Past that point it actually starts making sense and getting more expensive, but as you can see, why settle for less unless your the guy with a non-smartphone who gets screwed.
Sources:
The Verge & Engadget
Thanks for sharing! Saw these earlier today, still ripoffs but at least ATT doesn't force you on them like VZW.
Prepaid is cheaper.
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I'm not trying to gloat here, but this just makes my decision to add the 'unlimited data' package to my service, of which is no longer available for purchase, a notably smart one. Thank goodness for "grandfathered" things, such as is mine. Albeit, knowing AT&T's business practices, they'll probably figure a way to forcibly get me to buy into a data package eventually. But, for now, the thirty dollars is well worth it. However, I have heard rumors of AT&T throttling down bandwidth once users such as myself reach a certain monthly data usage amount.
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For sure, I'm jealous of my friends who still rock unlimited data since I got in the smartphone game a little late.
I guess the good part of these shared plans is unlimited calling is included.
But does the shoe fit?
Run the numbers. It's not really made to reduce anybody's bill, but to add flexibility. Everybody on the new plan gets tethering, unlimited domestic minutes and texts. I'm curious to see how employer discounts will be affected. I'm a veteran and get a 15% discount off some parts on my plan. If it works out for me, great. If not, I'll stick with my current setup.
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I'm not trying to gloat here, but this just makes my decision to add the 'unlimited data' package to my service, of which is no longer available for purchase, a notably smart one. Thank goodness for "grandfathered" things, such as is mine. Albeit, knowing AT&T's business practices, they'll probably figure a way to forcibly get me to buy into a data package eventually. But, for now, the thirty dollars is well worth it. However, I have heard rumors of AT&T throttling down bandwidth once users such as myself reach a certain monthly data usage amount.
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My girl had the unlimited to until she bought a 4g phone. The unlimited is only for 3 g so they made her get the 3 gigabyte plan for a 4g phone they already have taken that out of the picture if you buy a 4 g phone
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My girl had the unlimited to until she bought a 4g phone. The unlimited is only for 3 g so they made her get the 3 gigabyte plan for a 4g phone they already have taken that out of the picture if you buy a 4 g phone
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That can't be right. One of my buddies who has unlimited just upgraded to a One X and he was able to keep it.
Correction: He said that he missed that mandatory switch by two weeks-ish.
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Just, sell the phones you get from them and get international ones. They see all of those as, non-smart, and unlim data is still there, for those. 10/mo too as far as I know.
Skv012a said:
Just, sell the phones you get from them and get international ones. They see all of those as, non-smart, and unlim data is still there, for those. 10/mo too as far as I know.
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Qft......
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Not even a week into this month. Rogers raider on $10 "non-smartphone" data plan
You don't get the HSPA+ speeds with the Media Net plans correct?
The new Family plans may offer flexibility but I'm pretty sure that the main point is the same as VZs, to make you pay more for data. You either jump up to a high dollar plan or you risk paying the pretty hefty new overage fees.
Man, their highest price tier is still more then the unlimited everything plan on sprint...man, so glad I'm not with true blue or big red, I'll keep sprinting away with my cheap phone bill
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You don't get the HSPA+ speeds with the Media Net plans correct?
The new Family plans may offer flexibility but I'm pretty sure that the main point is the same as VZs, to make you pay more for data. You either jump up to a high dollar plan or you risk paying the pretty hefty new overage fees.
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It should depend on whatever the phone is capable of which is usually not as fast as smartphones.
But yeah thats true and it seems like theyre playing it off as some great deal to those who dont read the fine print or bother comparing.