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Well everyone getting the 10.00 fee now

http://htcdev.net/topic/238597-sprint-all-smartphones-to-be-subject-to-10-data-premium/
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Saw that earlier. kinda blows but I kinda expected it. With every carrier changing there data plans why wouldn't sprint?
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Bastards,im jumping to tmobile and getting Vibrant 4g,im tired of waiting for 4g to come to Buffalo.

lviv73 said:
Bastards,im jumping to tmobile and getting Vibrant 4g,im tired of waiting for 4g to come to Buffalo.
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Enjoy that contract cancellation fee.

lviv73 said:
Bastards,im jumping to tmobile and getting Vibrant 4g,im tired of waiting for 4g to come to Buffalo.
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Good luck.

nikon120 said:
Enjoy that contract cancellation fee.
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You mean that one that selling the Epic will more than pay for?

Will this apply to my girls BB with sprint? or is only for new activations?

formula84 said:
Will this apply to my girls BB with sprint? or is only for new activations?
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It won't apply to existing lines that already have a smartphone on them, but if you ever want to upgrade that BB (or even swap it out with an old smartphone sitting in your drawer) then you will get hit with the fee.

lviv73 said:
Bastards,im jumping to tmobile and getting Vibrant 4g,im tired of waiting for 4g to come to Buffalo.
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That'll show em.

Its funny nobody realizes even with the $10 fee, sprint is still the cheapest nationwide service provider... Bang for buck... God forbid they actually try and stay in business
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For those who oddly enough still want to cancel their Sprint contracts, as with any carrier, term changes == ETF free cancellation. Enjoy people! I'll stick with Sprint...they still are the cheapest, they just suck with phone options.

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That'll show em.
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this is why I love these places...
Well now we don't hav to hear the "It's for 4g crap so why am I paying bla bla anymore

Couldn't one argue that the Epic was sold under the promise that it would receive Froyo 2.2 soon after release? Couldn't that be considered false advertisement and grounds for contract termination without penalty?

nubsors said:
Couldn't one argue that the Epic was sold under the promise that it would receive Froyo 2.2 soon after release? Couldn't that be considered false advertisement and grounds for contract termination without penalty?
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Of course you could argue that, but good luck winning that argument. It's a good thing they're still the cheapest around for what they offer.

bah, that article doesnt know anything about Sprint. SERO on the EPIC or EVO is till only $50/month for 500 minutes land line, everything else unlimited. No idea why that articles claims the minium smart phone price tag is now $79 at sprint.
Almost none of their customers are paying that.. heres some options:
1) Sero $50/month
2) hundreds of company discounts, ranging from 10% to 20% = $50-$65/month
3) family plans, per phone price ends up $25 to $60/month
4) EERP $70 + sign up with VP marketing discount, -$10 which is available to the public = $60/month
5) Virgin mobile, owned by sprint, 300 anytime to land line, unlimited everything else $25/month)
6) Boost mobile, owned by sprint (averaging $40 to $60/month)
In summary, Sprints average smart phone user is not paying anywhere close to $79/month, probably closer to $60 and that's for the highest end devices.
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nubsors said:
Couldn't one argue that the Epic was sold under the promise that it would receive Froyo 2.2 soon after release? Couldn't that be considered false advertisement and grounds for contract termination without penalty?
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The problem with that is that the word soon is very subjective. What we consider to be soon may be different than what Sprint/Sammy considers to be soon.

NEXUS 4G said:
Its funny nobody realizes even with the $10 fee, sprint is still the cheapest nationwide service provider... Bang for buck... God forbid they actually try and stay in business
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I can't complain sprint been good to me 6yrs with them and i'm not leaving

Only if you activate or buy a new phone with sprint outside of the contract you already signed will you have to pay the $10 fee on top of the regular charge for true Unlimited Data. So if you have 5 phones which are all smart phones and 4 of them are Intercepts, and 1 is a Epic, you will not have to pay the extra $10x4 a month, cause you have already signed a contract stating your conditions. If you are already paying the fee, then nothing will change.

nubsors said:
Couldn't one argue that the Epic was sold under the promise that it would receive Froyo 2.2 soon after release? Couldn't that be considered false advertisement and grounds for contract termination without penalty?
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Yeah... no. Hell I don't even think the phone has ever actually been advertised as "2.2 Coming Soon!" Remember, "the guy at the Sprint store told me that 2.2 would be out in a week!" doesn't count as advertisement and is, in no way, shape, or form legally binding. They could probably never get 2.2 out the door and not have breached any agreements.
My favorite things about this change?
1) Those morons who decided to go after Sprint for that "unjust, completely hidden charge that they never agreed to" that was clearly explained to them 100 times and clearly outlined in the contract that they signed for the phone they could have not chosen might as well just forfeit that little case of theirs.
2) Since we already pay the $10 fee, this in no way affects us.
3) Now I get to watch a bunch of idiots run around saying "WTF? People other than us are getting charged an extra 10 dollars? I'm going to Verizon to pay $20 more a month just to show those evil-doers! To hell with the fact that this in no way affects me!"

just something else for people to ***** about. Sprint is the best bet for techies b/c you have unlimited data. not 2gb cap or whatever else those other companies are offering. Hell im sure everyone has seen tmobile uk now has a 500mb cap...thats super gimp

Hahahah at all those people gracefully praising t mobiles new plan

http://phandroid.com/2011/04/13/t-m...-unlimited-plan-for-even-more-plus-customers/
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Have a nice day sprint FTMFW!

For the past 6 years I been using cell phone in US. Not a single carrier was able to make me move from sprint. Especially with my Sero premium plan. I love it. I think even if I did not had the sero plan I will still stick with them. Mainly
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Amen brother amen
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http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...on-eve-of-launch/&category=classic&postPage=1

Lmao... I have to say as much as I can ***** about Sprint God knows I will never leave them for these other crazy ass carriers...

What's sad is that people want to see other choices (whether it's carriers, brands, whatever) fail. I personally want to see better choices.

Award Tour said:
What's sad is that people want to see other choices (whether it's carriers, brands, whatever) fail. I personally want to see better choices.
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Don't agree with you often but I do here. Only people that get screwed in the end is usually the end user...
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Award Tour said:
What's sad is that people want to see other choices (whether it's carriers, brands, whatever) fail. I personally want to see better choices.
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It's a reason that this merger HAS to be denied.
4 -1 =/= MORE choices.

What is the point of being excited about people not having choices?
Maybe some people are either so narrow-minded or have such little in their lives that they get excited about stuff like this?
I for one was excited as lower prices from one carrier might push another into lower prices but hey let's keep prices higher and get excited about stupid stuff like things NOT benefiting the customer

Im not getting excited im further more showing why people should stay with sprint and keep it strong before going to companies that do things like this
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Tmobile just got rid of the Even More PLUS plan, which is the $59 plan with no contract and no phone subsidy. The $79 unlimited plan with a 2 year contract is still available.
I like Sprint, but Tmobile(who I was with for 8 years before getting my Evo) has good data speed in reception in my area. Their customer service is probably the best too.
I like my Sprint plan, but I'd also like to have more options in the future especially now that my annual upgrade ironically got downgraded.

dcfella said:
Tmobile just got rid of the Even More PLUS plan, which is the $59 plan with no contract and no phone subsidy. The $79 unlimited plan with a 2 year contract is still available.
I like Sprint, but Tmobile(who I was with for 8 years before getting my Evo) has good data speed in reception in my area. Their customer service is probably the best too.
I like my Sprint plan, but I'd also like to have more options in the future especially now that my annual upgrade ironically got downgraded.
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I understand what you're saying and I agree that choices are good but T-Mobile is really no better than att nor Verizon.
The only difference is they have Sprint prices.
Sprint's the ONLY carrier that offers a way to get yearly upgrade....does it suck they changed the way to get it? Yes, I was subject to that change and it sucks. But at least its an option!
As far as the speeds, yeah that's great in the few areas that its a good signal...but after 2gb of usage you get edge speeds...
On a bad month I use 4g of data and that's just normal usage...not downloading anything special.

Basically the people that get their rocks off over stuff like this are the ones that need to feel justified to stay with Sprint.

Yet another thread I've had to clean. Keep it on topic, and quit with the trolling and off topic rubbish.

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Yet another thread I've had to clean. Keep it on topic, and quit with the trolling and off topic rubbish.
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OMG! Thank you so much I never thought that would happen.
Over at slickdeals people have been reporting to be able to signup for this plan. I wonder if they will reoffer it at a later date or else the people will end up on the plan before they were on before signing up for this canceled offer.

What a joke. Unlimited with a 2GB cap? They should be sued for false advertisement. Unlimited is unlimited.
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DirtyShroomz said:
What a joke. Unlimited with a 2GB cap? They should be sued for false advertisement. Unlimited is unlimited.
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It isn't capped. You can still surf the web and download at a very slow speed.

rushco said:
It isn't capped. You can still surf the web and download at a very slow speed.
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That's capped...lol
Swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO

twiz0r said:
That's capped...lol
Swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
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Exactly my point!!!!!!

twiz0r said:
That's capped...lol
Swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
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No, that's throttling. I said it before, and honestly say this seriously, but I get edge/1x like speeds on Sprint. A lot of people on Sprint are. So to get 2GB on HSPA+ and the rest on edge is not a bad deal for some. I'm a heavy data user too but I'm on WiFi 75% of time (office at work + home), so either way, I don't use over 2GB on the network anyway. There's a couple of use cases where this deal is better, and don't forget that this has unlimited calling. That's be great for a business line like how I kind of use my Sprint line.
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Sprint to dump unlimited plans :-(

http://www.mobilebusinessbriefing.c...ked-to-data-pricing-strategy-switch-next-week

10 GB !
i don't even touch that.....
so this won't really affect me though...
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.... Now its a thread.

10 GB !
i don't even touch that.....
so this won't really affect me though...
.... Now its a thread.

I'm reading for non smart phone devices only. Tabs, air cards etc.

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I'm reading for non smart phone devices only. Tabs, air cards etc.
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Ah! That is more like it. Hesse just did the whole "not believing in data caps" promo. Also the only reason I am still on Sprint.
Do you BONSAI?

If this is TRUE. I will jump ship. Everyone I know is with Verizon and their network here is much larger, than Sprint. I stayed with them because of the unlimited Data Plans. I use data for work, CC, Navigation, Pandora, Weather, etc. You get the picture.

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If this is TRUE. I will jump ship. Everyone I know is with Verizon and their network here is much larger, than Sprint. I stayed with them because of the unlimited Data Plans. I use data for work, CC, Navigation, Pandora, Weather, etc. You get the picture.
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If it applies to smartphone users, and you seriously use more than 10gb/mo:
A) Verizon has no plan for you.
B) you are less than 1/10 of 1% of Sprint's data consumers and they will NOT miss you.

What will be the prices and limits for Verizon's tiered plan.

Was bound to happen....all the users on bragging about their data usage and wifi tethering

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I'm reading for non smart phone devices only. Tabs, air cards etc.
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The thread should be closed after this. The rest is just irrelevant.

From what I'm reading, this will be a really good thing, as it will give us the option to perhaps switch to cheaper plans. I would not touch anything near 10GB, and 5GB would be perfect for me....

It seems like no one is reading the article including the original poster. This only applies for non-smartphone devices. This thread title should be revised or this thread should be closed.

Where did you see that? I saw no mention of this being for non smartphone users
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No where did I read its only for dumb phones!!

Sprint better tread carefully,Dont want to piss pf consumers with more charges.
As they become more like Verizon,what would be the reason to stay with them?
As stated its for non smartphone customers but how long before they touch us in the wallet too.

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From what I'm reading, this will be a really good thing, as it will give us the option to perhaps switch to cheaper plans. I would not touch anything near 10GB, and 5GB would be perfect for me....
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Ah, but will this take me out of Premiere status if I drop below $90? Save a few bucks here or get a new phone every year...decisions, decisions.

And here are the other "rumor" articles that state it's for data cards only:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ta-structure-for-embedded-devices-not-phones/

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Where did you see that? I saw no mention of this being for non smartphone users
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ta-structure-for-embedded-devices-not-phones/
When I think of Sprint, the first thought that comes to mind is CEO Dan Hesse standing on a pier talking about being truly unlimited. I’m sure that he really does like the idea of being truly unlimited… but only when phones are concerned. You see, Sprint is reportedly going to take a different stance when it comes to data connection cards and embedded devices, such as tablets and netbooks.
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Tiered plans not so bad
My current phone data plan costs $80 a month for unlimited, and I only use a couple hundred megs a month at most. If I could drop that by almost $50 as a result of my being a light user, I'd love it.
I forgot where I saw an article about it, maybe it was for AT&T/iPhone, but the notion of variable rate based on your use seems like a good idea to me. Start out at a base (that $35/mo for 3gb isn't too bad) that notches up when you cross a line, and becomes more bulk friendly as you go, and every month it resets to the base. If I went really heavy on data usage for a month, my bill would be at that $80 unlimited point, but if I went sparingly I'd only get charged $35 for under 3gb, or maybe $55 for 8gb before hitting the 'unlimited' mark at say 10gb.
My phone is a tool, a convenience to make my life better in some minor form. It does not make me who I am as a person, and it would be nice to have that reflected in my wallet as a result.

Yes this only goes for non-phone devices. Only affects things like tablets, usb modems, etc. The article 2 posts above clarifies and even shows a graph for detail.
Note that the 450 plan will get 300 bonus minutes, so it is essentially 750 minutes, plus unlimited data for your phone.
EDIT: You get 300 bonus minutes if you get a tab, usb modem, etc. and one of the new tiered data plans.
2nd EDIT: It seems it would be cheaper and do it legit and only pay $30/month on Sprint's mobile hotspot for your phone (and get UNLIMITED DATA that way) instead of paying $34.99 for even the 3GB plan, since these new plans for the non-phone devices requires you to sign up for a phone plan anyways.

New Verizon plans

Got this from my local news. They are citing an AP report. I hope I did this right and can post a link to it. How ironic it starts a week before they release the SIII
http://www.wtae.com/news/local/-/9681086/14785656/-/68ae1v/-/index.html
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Yup, Verizon's plans are bat**** crazy and ridiculous (not that this is new): http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/12/verizon-share-everything-data-plans-go-live-june-28/
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Product F(RED) said:
Yup, Verizon's plans are bat**** crazy and ridiculous (not that this is new): http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/12/verizon-share-everything-data-plans-go-live-june-28/
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I agree. Benefit the non-smart phone users now. Rediculous. I'm thinking about calling and complaining enough about this to get a Galaxy Nexus or Rezound for now.
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taz1458 said:
I agree. Benefit the non-smart phone users now. Rediculous. I'm thinking about calling and complaining enough about this to get a Galaxy Nexus or Rezound for now.
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I'd leave Verizon altogether if I were you.

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I'd leave Verizon altogether if I were you.
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If I could I would. Service sucks for everything else over here. Plus I still got unlimited so screw them.
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Okay, some fine print time.
Fine Print #1
Those who wish to stay with their current setup of 4GB of double data are able to do so. You will be allowed to upgrade with it, keep it, etc. So if the shared plan is not financially beneficial to you, don't sweat it.
Fine Print #2
Yes, those with unlimited will lose it. ONLY WHEN THEY UPGRADE. So if you never upgrade, you don't lose it for the foreseeable future. Do what I've been doing for years. Buy your phones off craigslist. Meet the seller at a Verizon, let a rep check the ESN and make sure you're not getting scammed with a stolen phone, and call it a day. I picked up my Nexus for $200 on Craigslist, the same cost it sells for at Verizon WITH CONTRACT. This will enable you to keep your unlimited.
The prices on this benefit a lot of people. Consider this:
2 line family plan, both smartphones
99.99 for 700 minutes & unlimited texting
30 for 2GB
30 for 2GB
=$160 a month
Under new plan:
$70 for unlimited talk and text, 4GB of data shared, now with free tethering
40 for 1 phone
40 for other phone
= $150 a month. $10 savings, same GB overall, now unlimited minutes.
I'm not saying this plan is perfect, or that it works for everyone. But the nice part is, if you don't want it, you're not being forced into it. It's an option that's available, and if it benefits you (and it truly does benefit a lot of people. Not everyone, but a lot) then more power to you.

I'll do glad that I am not on Verizon anymore because they are too expensive for their own good.
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The real problem with them is that the market is not competitive. Being the biggest network means people will pay whatever ridiculous price they ask without really looking at their other options. I think Straight Talk should offer a $45/month unlimited everything, bring your own device program on Verizon like they do on AT&T and T-Mobile
Verizon smartphone users already **** bricks when they hear how I pay $45/month, don't have a contract, have unlimited everything, and have virtually identical coverage.

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The real problem with them is that the market is not competitive. Being the biggest network means people will pay whatever ridiculous price they ask without really looking at their other options. I think Straight Talk should offer a $45/month unlimited everything, bring your own device program on Verizon like they do on AT&T and T-Mobile
Verizon smartphone users already **** bricks when they hear how I pay $45/month, don't have a contract, have unlimited everything, and have virtually identical coverage.
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They do; Straight Talk re-sells service on all 4 carriers, but you can't bring your own phone for Verizon or Sprint because they won't activate phones that aren't branded by them (even if it's a phone from their own network, it has to be used only directly on their network). There are other limitations like having to reprogram the phone, but the main issue is getting them to activate it, which they don't do.

AT&T Family Shared Data

So I'm sure most of you are aware of this whole AT&T Data Sharing thats coming out near the end of august. I was just doing some math on the whole thing and had it confirmed by a representative on the phone...turns out, it makes no sense. Shocking.
For a family of 5 such as my situation, we have 4 smart phones and 1 non-smartphone.
As the charts shows (which I cant post since Im too new), it breaks down like this...
4GB
$70 base price
$40 / smartphone
$30 / normal phone
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$54 / smartphone
$44 / normal phone
6GB
$90 base price
$35 / smartphone
$30 / normal phone
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$53 / smartphone
$48 / normal phone
10GB
$120 base price
$30 / smartphone
$30 / normal phone
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$54 / smartphone
$54 / normal phone
Past that point it actually starts making sense and getting more expensive, but as you can see, why settle for less unless your the guy with a non-smartphone who gets screwed.
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The Verge & Engadget

Thanks for sharing! Saw these earlier today, still ripoffs but at least ATT doesn't force you on them like VZW.
Prepaid is cheaper.
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I'm not trying to gloat here, but this just makes my decision to add the 'unlimited data' package to my service, of which is no longer available for purchase, a notably smart one. Thank goodness for "grandfathered" things, such as is mine. Albeit, knowing AT&T's business practices, they'll probably figure a way to forcibly get me to buy into a data package eventually. But, for now, the thirty dollars is well worth it. However, I have heard rumors of AT&T throttling down bandwidth once users such as myself reach a certain monthly data usage amount.
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For sure, I'm jealous of my friends who still rock unlimited data since I got in the smartphone game a little late.
I guess the good part of these shared plans is unlimited calling is included.

But does the shoe fit?
Run the numbers. It's not really made to reduce anybody's bill, but to add flexibility. Everybody on the new plan gets tethering, unlimited domestic minutes and texts. I'm curious to see how employer discounts will be affected. I'm a veteran and get a 15% discount off some parts on my plan. If it works out for me, great. If not, I'll stick with my current setup.

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I'm not trying to gloat here, but this just makes my decision to add the 'unlimited data' package to my service, of which is no longer available for purchase, a notably smart one. Thank goodness for "grandfathered" things, such as is mine. Albeit, knowing AT&T's business practices, they'll probably figure a way to forcibly get me to buy into a data package eventually. But, for now, the thirty dollars is well worth it. However, I have heard rumors of AT&T throttling down bandwidth once users such as myself reach a certain monthly data usage amount.
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My girl had the unlimited to until she bought a 4g phone. The unlimited is only for 3 g so they made her get the 3 gigabyte plan for a 4g phone they already have taken that out of the picture if you buy a 4 g phone
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texasman420 said:
My girl had the unlimited to until she bought a 4g phone. The unlimited is only for 3 g so they made her get the 3 gigabyte plan for a 4g phone they already have taken that out of the picture if you buy a 4 g phone
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That can't be right. One of my buddies who has unlimited just upgraded to a One X and he was able to keep it.
Correction: He said that he missed that mandatory switch by two weeks-ish.
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Just, sell the phones you get from them and get international ones. They see all of those as, non-smart, and unlim data is still there, for those. 10/mo too as far as I know.

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Just, sell the phones you get from them and get international ones. They see all of those as, non-smart, and unlim data is still there, for those. 10/mo too as far as I know.
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Not even a week into this month. Rogers raider on $10 "non-smartphone" data plan

You don't get the HSPA+ speeds with the Media Net plans correct?
The new Family plans may offer flexibility but I'm pretty sure that the main point is the same as VZs, to make you pay more for data. You either jump up to a high dollar plan or you risk paying the pretty hefty new overage fees.

Man, their highest price tier is still more then the unlimited everything plan on sprint...man, so glad I'm not with true blue or big red, I'll keep sprinting away with my cheap phone bill
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You don't get the HSPA+ speeds with the Media Net plans correct?
The new Family plans may offer flexibility but I'm pretty sure that the main point is the same as VZs, to make you pay more for data. You either jump up to a high dollar plan or you risk paying the pretty hefty new overage fees.
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It should depend on whatever the phone is capable of which is usually not as fast as smartphones.
But yeah thats true and it seems like theyre playing it off as some great deal to those who dont read the fine print or bother comparing.