http://www.bgr.com/2012/06/12/apple-ios-6-features-android-opinion-criticism/
It's a fun read.
Skimmed the article, got a few chuckles out of the comments though. I very rarely venture over to BGR just because of how much of an Apple stench their journalists have.
Pretty sure android has all those features, and has had them for some time now
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ROFLMAOSTFH! That was great! Haven't laughed that much lately! That was truly cringe worthy. *shudder*
Android is four steps behind iOS, is it? More like iOS is playing catch-up from being four furlongs behind.
I'm still chuckling!!
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seems like BGR will be losing a lot of readers after this based on their comment section
Rofl
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Its slow going, but people ARE getting bored of Apple. All but one of my iOS owning friends has moved to something else, mostly Android, one Blackberry, even the fanboi Gadgets review sites are getting critical, slowly, the same old design is looking old, uninspiring and boring.
This article is pure fanboi drivel. Some people dont even try to hide it any more, its embarrassing for them, really, and its nice to see the vast majority of the comments are calling him out on it.
Well that article proves that IOS users are paying close attention to the insane growth of android, its OS and how IOS compares to it. Bgr is scared ****less.
Wow that was a pretty laughable article, I have both Android and iOS guess which I find myself using more daily...give ya a hint its a "Dairy Product" as a company liked to point out yesterday.
Recognise the linkbaits people. Stop linking
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Recognise the linkbaits people. Stop linking
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That's true, I hate offering hits to these websites to read their laughable and biased articles.
Still, judging by all the people in the comments section saying they're taking BGR off their news feeds, it seems like this article might have done more bad than good for their hits in the long run.
Looking at the new features just makes me think "wow was it really that limited before?"...
Lol
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That's true, I hate offering hits to these websites to read their laughable and biased articles.
Still, judging by all the people in the comments section saying they're taking BGR off their news feeds, it seems like this article might have done more bad than good for their hits in the long run.
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That's why you link to Google's cached version. Keeps all the traffic off their site.
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Looking at the new features just makes me think "wow was it really that limited before?"...
Lol
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Lol it still is, and always will be.
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I guess that is a prime example of Cognitive Dissonance.
It can't be what should not be: Apple is a Copy+Paste company, which didn't came up with a single innovation for their new OS.
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I guess that is a prime example of Cognitive Dissonance.
It can't be what should not be: Apple is a Copy+Paste company, which didn't came up with a single innovation for their new OS.
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I don't know why but I get so worked-up when I read garbage like this. Ugh!!!
Frankly all these features they added are just basic essentials. Im half expecting them to say that the iPhone will finally be able to make calls in iOS7 (a new innovation no doubt!).
You thought that was bad... you should have seen the Cnet Prizefight with the Ipad 2 vs ASUS Transformer Prime... THAT was the most biased thing I have EVER seen...
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdNS_VA5EfM
Completely stunned at how ridiculous that article was. Just absolutely absurd. I seriously thought that it was some kind of joke. Hard to believe that there really are people that think that way. Maybe they just like living inside Apple's bubble because they aren't intelligent enough to think on their own.
Also those new nav buttons don't those look familiar hmm maybe stolen from the galaxy nexus. Bgr what a joke.
Cupcake edition of Android had most of those features lol. WOW these guys are true iPhone fanboys lol.
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... on the bus and we spent the rest of ride back conversating loudly about our awesome tablets, while being surrounded by iPad users. Shortest bus ride home ever...
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nice, its the best tablet no one seems to be talking about. I think people were waiting for the ipad and to be honest that underwelmed but folks are still going to flock to it
Some guy asked me "is that an iPad?" I said "no, its a Xoom." You should've seen the look of befuddlement on his face....
Its sad that people don't know about the Xoom. Even worse when the same people ask, "why didn't you get an iPad?"
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Even worse when the same people ask, "why didn't you get an iPad?"
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True, but I like "enlightening" them Sometimes I think they even understand
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True, but I like "enlightening" them Sometimes I think they even understand
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Trust me. They don't.
Just give it time. Motorola screwed up with opening with the most expensive model when they should have gone with the wifi only version out of the gate. Regardless it will only be a matter of a few short months when Android tablets will be everywhere...and then...the developers will come running.
IOS is a joke but it works and it is simple. Apple will not change that which means the software innovation will be left up to Google. As soon as Apple makes their system even slightly more confusing...all bets are off. Icons are for smart phones in 2008...it is 2011 and soon people will want more and they will want choice...
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Trust me. They don't.
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Mostly don't, some even asked me what's so good about android, I had to ask them the same thing about iOS and they can't even explain that to me xD
I was having dinner with some friends tonight and whipped out my XOOM to show off the NES emulator (the pattern on the table cloths looked like Tetris, so it was only inevitable.)
The waiter came over and was like "Wha...How did you get Zelda on the iPad??" and I was like "It was really easy, actually! I downloaded it from the Android market, because it's a Motorola XOOM. You can't do that with an iPad unless you jailbreak it."
He was in awe. lol
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Just give it time. Motorola screwed up with opening with the most expensive model when they should have gone with the wifi only version out of the gate. Regardless it will only be a matter of a few short months when Android tablets will be everywhere...and then...the developers will come running.
IOS is a joke but it works and it is simple. Apple will not change that which means the software innovation will be left up to Google. As soon as Apple makes their system even slightly more confusing...all bets are off. Icons are for smart phones in 2008...it is 2011 and soon people will want more and they will want choice...
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Agreed. Who wants multiple screens with a bunch of icons when you can actually make your screens look like a web site with various widgets with useful information that matters to you.
I feel it too. Everyone seems consumed by the *cough* ipad, that they don't realize tablets even exist for android. The xoom kills 'em all! Android is sooooo much better than the other *cough again* competitors. Once an "apple" lover sees the xoom in action they'll sure change to the better side!
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I would reply "Err what's iPad btw?" And let them explain then we can have fun asking the shortcomings
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Some guy asked me "is that an iPad?" I said "no, its a Xoom." You should've seen the look of befuddlement on his face....
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A girl at my school saw me playing fruit ninja on my XOOM and said "how did you get the iPad 2 already?" *facepalm*
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A girl at my school saw me playing fruit ninja on my XOOM and said "how did you get the iPad 2 already?" *facepalm*
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Should've said "how did you become a dumbass?"
might be a bit overboard, but it'd get the point across.
These people aren't dumb nor is it their fault that they're not aware of the Xoom. You should be more annoyed at Motorola's marketing. I have seen one commercial and quite honestly....it sucked.
I think Android will always have this problem...Apple is one company and Android devices are made by a number of different manufacturers. Makes it hard to market Android as a whole. I guess things will get easier once the market is flooded with Android tablets.
Best thing to do is point out the positives of Android vs IOS without being a d-bag.
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Really lame fanboy comments on here, but it's a Xoom forum so it's excusable i guess.
If you like your Xoom, then fine, why deride others who like their iPads? If nobody you've come across knows about the Xoom or keeps mistaking it for some sort of iPad-thingy, then whose fault is that? Those people are neither stupid or dumb like you all seem to think. I have an Epic and an iPad, both of which i like and use quite well. Won't be getting a Xoom, not interested, waiting to see the Galaxy tablet.
Where's the marketing from Motorola, where's the push from VZW? You'd think that these were the same folks who made a big push with the "Droid Does" phone campaign that brought Android awareness to all and sunder.
Walk into any BestBuy and see where and how they've displayed the Xoom. It's in some nondescript corner somewhere with no ecosystem of accessories around it (at least the NYC store here). Almost like an afterthought...just something else we carry. No eye-catching signage, no display props, very little employees who go out of their way to even know about it...
This is what kills me why does there need to be marketing for a product you already know about hand possibly own? Plus aple users tend to be vocal about their devices as well fanactical to some extent which is fine. Why do people feel the need to judtify their own purchases or need to bash one in order to like another? I have a xoom, bought an I pad that I never see(wife and kids's really) and think both serve their purpose. Also one of apples biggest strengths isn't their products but their marketing.
You must all be using some different kind of Xoom then me. I love android more then any other OS but this thing is the biggest piece of janky **** I have ever used. Nothing works, everything force closes. Coming from a galaxy tab this is a giant step DOWN. Granted it ran froyo, but it ran it flawlessly. My friends nook color runs honeycomb better then this. Every minute I use this thing I get more frustrated. Picked it up last night bringing it back within the hour. Huge let down.
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I understand where you're coming from, LordLugard, and honestly I don't think people are stupid because they think the xoom is an ipad. Its just my humorous criticism of how I hate apple! Lol. Why? Because apple sucks. Why? ...just because. Lol. Im not being negative towards anybody, but think its funny. And I can care less about the exploitation of the xoom. I actually like being a part of something that's not so trendy. However, Motorola is making a lot of mistakes by not marketing the device properly and shipping it off "incomplete". Also, the xoom is super expensive...but I am definitely a happy camper! Its perfect for school, play, and among other things. Xoom xoom baby!
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Really lame fanboy comments on here, but it's a Xoom forum so it's excusable i guess.
If you like your Xoom, then fine, why deride others who like their iPads? If nobody you've come across knows about the Xoom or keeps mistaking it for some sort of iPad-thingy, then whose fault is that? Those people are neither stupid or dumb like you all seem to think. I have an Epic and an iPad, both of which i like and use quite well. Won't be getting a Xoom, not interested, waiting to see the Galaxy tablet.
Where's the marketing from Motorola, where's the push from VZW? You'd think that these were the same folks who made a big push with the "Droid Does" phone campaign that brought Android awareness to all and sunder.
Walk into any BestBuy and see where and how they've displayed the Xoom. It's in some nondescript corner somewhere with no ecosystem of accessories around it (at least the NYC store here). Almost like an afterthought...just something else we carry. No eye-catching signage, no display props, very little employees who go out of their way to even know about it...
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NYC is very much an iPad "keeping up with the Jones" kind of place. I can hear the conversation now. "Have you seen the latest iPad, simply incredible, I must have one". "Wilfred will you hold Tootsey so I can run to the Apple Store".
Handguns and Xooms will probably be banned at Starbucks.
http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/15/ho...ampaign=Feed:+Techcrunch+(TechCrunch)#XpulseX
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http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/15/ho...ampaign=Feed:+Techcrunch+(TechCrunch)#XpulseX
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Apple has TechCrunch in its pockets....that site is absolutely horrid and untrustworthy
beside my hurt feelings as an android and xoom fan.
The arcticle is a little one-sided. And a sad thing about todays journalism is, that its all about controversy and polemics.
I think it's a fair article. Honeycomb has problems and bugs that are hurting consumer adoption and like it or not, the Xoom wasn't a good enough device to make people ignore those flaws.
It's too heavy, the screen is very poor, and it shipped with two major features disabled.
Maybe some of you guys would prefer to be mollycoddled and told nice things, but tough.
For the record, Kincaid has historically been a bit of an android fan. Siegler is the shameless, illogical Apple fanboy.
That was more like a critical opinions expressed rather than a fair review.
I mean, holy ****, he doesn't even mention the point that honeycomb is a platform built from scratch...he even stated that the xoom with its honeycomb platform can't never ever get close to the ipads perfection. Noooo...ipad with a phone os, ios, has been around long enough for bug fixes, isn't any better than the honeycomb. In fact its dead simple and too familiar for a long time user to get boring. But this guy surely doesn't get bored after probably all 5 years using the damn iPhone.
one more thing, what kind of reviewer in the world complains about the f*cking home button look like a goddamn up arrow. It doesn't.
PS: this is off topic but I'm sitting at Starbucks, a Guy asked me if my xoom is an ipad. Right in the middle of my anger, I told him: ipad sucks. This is the Motorola xoom running android, much better. Then I get the usual "what is android". Holy cow, I should've just told him yeah this is an ipad, It sucks.
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That was more like a critical opinions expressed rather than a fair review.
I mean, holy ****, he doesn't even mention the point that honeycomb is a platform built from scratch...he even stated that the xoom with its honeycomb platform can't never ever get close to the ipads perfection. Noooo...ipad with a phone os, ios, has been around long enough for bug fixes, isn't any better than the honeycomb. In fact its dead simple and too familiar for a long time user to get boring. But this guy surely doesn't get bored after probably all 5 years using the damn iPhone.
one more thing, what kind of reviewer in the world complains about the f*cking home button look like a goddamn up arrow. It doesn't.
PS: this is off topic but I'm sitting at Starbucks, a Guy asked me if my xoom is an ipad. Right in the middle of my anger, I told him: ipad sucks. This is the Motorola xoom running android, much better. Then I get the usual "what is android". Holy cow, I should've just told him yeah this is an ipad, It sucks.
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The writer is an Android user. The user experience on the iPad is currently better than on Honeycomb, something which I'm sure will improve in the near future. But that's the future.
Why should he mention that it was built from the ground up? Who the hell cares other than us early adopters? What's important to the consumer (ie his readers) is how well executed it is and right now it still needs work.
His job is to offer an objective view of the platform, not make excuses for it. The latter, apparently, is your job.
>His job is to offer an objective view of the platform
We must be reading different blog posts. It's an opinion piece. Opinions are by definition not objective.
@OP: My thought is that you should pay less attention to blogger pundits with the usual juvie "us-vs-them" argument. It's not a sum-zero game. One doesn't have to lose for the other to win. I think both iOS & Android will do well.
The more interesting question would be, who else besides the two frontrunners will likely make the cut? One would have to count in Windows 8, if only because of the sheer size of the Windows installed base.
WebOS is a dark horse, and QNX is a REALLY dark horse. And MeeGo for now seems to be a horse without a home.
After reading the article, I didn't really think it was all that bad. It was the telling of personal anecdotal experience with an early-release Honeycomb tablet. He likes the Galaxy better. Fine. My own experience with the Xoom has been delightful. I will be happier when there are more made for tablet apps available in the market but that will come in time.
I've read a number of complaints about the weight of the Xoom, and while it was a little heavy to me at first, I've gotten used to it and now I kind of like the "feel." I haven't used the iPad so I can't comment on how they compare. I've read other reviews that favored the Xoom over the iPad. I think it is going to come down to personal preference. This is the whole reason why there are both multiple brands and multiple models within brands.
There are reasons why I personally choose not to go apple and it is not because they make lousy hardware. It has more to do with the amount of (in my opinion tyrannical) control they are determined to exercise over their products. Some people think that even this is a good thing; I don't. The guy in the article has his opinion, I have mine.
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>His job is to offer an objective view of the platform
We must be reading different blog posts. It's an opinion piece. Opinions are by definition not objective.
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Thanks for that. I was just thinking this thread could do with being bogged down in semantics.
Replace 'objective' with 'informed and balanced' then. Because that's precisely what the article is.
Some of you guys are unbelievable. An Android user writes an article expressing optimism for the future of the platform and the entire piece is rubbished because he has the temerity to mention (correctly, in my opinion and the opinion of most reviewers) that the Xoom was a flawed first attempt. Good work.
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The writer is an Android user. The user experience on the iPad is currently better than on Honeycomb, something which I'm sure will improve in the near future. But that's the future.
Why should he mention that it was built from the ground up? Who the hell cares other than us early adopters? What's important to the consumer (ie his readers) is how well executed it is and right now it still needs work.
His job is to offer an objective view of the platform, not make excuses for it. The latter, apparently, is your job.
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He doesn't seem to be an android user to me. And it wasn't objective. His opinions were all over the place. The weight is judged by preference. I, am a skinny guy, likes the feel of the weight in my hand.
Again, the home button looking like an up arrow doesn't demonstrate the objective view either. That is clearly how much he's disliked honeycomb. Its a practice of fanboyism bringing the smallest thing to show how bad a product is.
If the article is categorized as a review, bring it to where a review should be. Don't involve with other products then compare and contrast them.
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>Replace 'objective' with 'informed and balanced' then. Because that's precisely what the article is.
That's the problem with opinions. If it agrees with your view, it's "informed and balanced." If it isn't, it's "trash and fanboyish".
I'm not sure how "informed and balanced" the piece is when it's based solely on one person's experience with one (OK, two) specific device, running one specific version of HC (3.0.1). Pieces like these are afflicted by what I call the-world-revolves-around-me syndrome, ie if I like it, it's great, if I don't, doom & gloom shall follow.
This, regardless of what the writer thinks of the Android platform. Just because he thinks well (or poorly, whatever) of Android's chances doesn't mean his opinion is worth any more than the space-filler that it is.
And we're back to the subjectivity non-argument again.
You can always tell when somebody lacks debating skills. They always play for the solipsistic stalemate.
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PS: this is off topic but I'm sitting at Starbucks, a Guy asked me if my xoom is an ipad. Right in the middle of my anger, I told him: ipad sucks. This is the Motorola xoom running android, much better. Then I get the usual "what is android". Holy cow, I should've just told him yeah this is an ipad, It sucks.
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Why are you complaining?
Even my girlfriend calls my xoom an ipad. "Can i have your ipad for a moment"
while I don't necessarily disagree with some of the HoneyComb criticisms, or Xoom criticisms in this article TechCrunch is a poor site, with terribly written articles.
The article referenced in an earlier post for example:
"Holding the Xoom with one hand isn’t difficult in the slightest, but it isn’t effortless either."
Suggesting that holding it with one hand isn't effortless, suggests that that there is a certain degree of difficulty, more then 'slightest'. This guy claims that "I’m not going to do a detailed run-through of the hardware specs (which aren’t my forte)..." if talking about hardware specs is not your forte why are you writing an article on a site called "TechCrunch"? Unless you are a great writer, which clearly he is not. TechCrunch hurts my brain.
Also by the way most of the criticisms he mentions are not something you can say about the Xoom with the 3.1 update, which is pretty dope. No FC's better responsiveness throughout, and the browser doesn't suck anymore.
>TechCrunch is a poor site, with terribly written articles.
Yes, TC has terrible writers, but so do the vast majority of tech blogs. Sadly, the techies who read them usually aren't the more discriminating types, and tend to confuse them for real journalists.
"Informed and balanced"... hahah, I'm still chuckling about that one.
Gadget blogs are good for gadget news, not for analytical pieces or op-eds about state of the industry.
Hatworthy seems to be the only one in this thread with half a brain. The Xoom IS heavy.. You cannot hold the Xoom with one hand facing down while looking up for a long period of time. How do I know? I have owned a ipad 2, Xoom, and bb Playbook.. Xoom is uncomfortable to hold in CERTAIN positions. The screen is subpar compared to those tabs named. And is 'unstable' compared to iOS not so much QNX. The Xoom also came with no 4G and SD support ...neither do the competition you say? Well it wasn't promised and used as a marketing ploy like the Xoom thus is the issue.
If the Xoom came with a screen atleast equal to the iPad and Honeycomb was just a tad more stable the Xoom if provided different models I.E 16GB,32,64,etc and was lighter would easily be the best.
You don't mention hardware specs in a cconsumer report my mom doesn't care what's in the computer but how it runs.
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I don't get the 2% of the folks who scream from the rooftops that the screen is not as good as most of the other platforms. I'm not in love with any of them. We have each of them in our lab. They are all horrible for getting anything significant done and the iOS device is the most useless closely followed by the Playbook. I'm glad that my primary reason for getting the Xoom was not so much for work, but maybe next year or the year after, we'll vetsome real utility out of these suckers.
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I don't get the 2% of the folks who scream from the rooftops that the screen is not as good as most of the other platforms. I'm not in love with any of them. We have each of them in our lab. They are all horrible for getting anything significant done and the iOS device is the most useless closely followed by the Playbook. I'm glad that my primary reason for getting the Xoom was not so much for work, but maybe next year or the year after, we'll vetsome real utility out of these suckers.
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2%? No offense but why pull a imaginery number out the sky to back your claim? I'm positive a-lot more than "2%" if coming from an iPad 1 or iPad 2 would not look at the Xoom's screen and immediately notice a difference. This is a 'Tablet' no bigger than 10" and used developed as a multimedia hub. No one said the screen is bad because it's not!! It's just not as good as it should be for the price ....
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Why are you complaining?
Even my girlfriend calls my xoom an ipad. "Can i have your ipad for a moment"
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Jesus, its time for the world to end now. You've got to train her. I trained my girl she was wanting me to get an ipad but I got super talkative and blows all the things about the opacity. Then she understood and now she's calling the xoom by its right name.
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>Jesus, its time for the world to end now.
Not until Saturday.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/20/us/20rapture.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqHZ6bR0kZw
The description alone sickens me.
wow... I feel dumber now. That kid has no business talking about any piece of hardware, especially one he has no understand of.
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He clearly thinks its way too complicated to use a lockscreen. What was really funny was he would quickly murmer stupid ass things under his breath to make it seem funny. Example... "The battery life is not what you would expect it to be.... yeeeahh."
All I heard was Apple has this, iPhone has this, he doesnt even know the Xoom is the first actual tablet running a real tablet OS.
All in favor of punching the crap outta this guy say aye. AYE!!!!
Couldn't even finish watching the whole thing. It seemed like the video was made on impulse as he blindly fires off inaccurate facts ( the one that got me was mixing up the USB and HDMI). I can see why it only has 59 views.
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Simple OS for simple people I suppose. Unless you jailbreak and such, after about a month or so the apple OS gets boring to me.
I stopped the video when he wasn't sure if it had 4G I mean LTE that is what Verizon calls it right? So in other words he doesn't know what hardware the device has but qualifies himself to review the device. OK,.. next
That's why my jailbroken itouch has been sitting in my junkdrawer since I got my Droid X a year ago. There's only so much you can tinker with before it gets monotonous. Plus the battery has gotten so bad it only works plugged in.
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I stopped the video when he wasn't sure if it had 4G I mean LTE that is what Verizon calls it right? So in other words he doesn't know what hardware the device has but qualifies himself to review the device. OK,.. next
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But isn't that what makes apple fanboys fans of apple "Simple devices for simple people"?
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What a fool. That video didn't even deserve my time. I certainly hope he doesn't handle his iPad like he did that Xoom, I'm sure it wouldn't be able to stand up to that kind of abuse...
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But isn't that what makes apple fanboys fans of apple "Simple devices for simple people"?
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Exactly thats why they only have one button anymore than that and its too confusing for them.
My ping is 24 MEGA SECONDS... wtf
Yes, but I suppose there has to be a device for every type of person. It's just annoying how people try to compare the devices (iPad vs Xoom) when they are both at opposite ends (proprietary - open source) of the spectrum each with there pros and cons.
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My ping is 24 MEGA SECONDS... wtf
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LOOOL....:-D I didn't catch that in the video. Must have been in the part I didn't watch.
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I was trying to watch with an open mind until he said he had 34 mega second ping. What's that...about a year? This will make for some pretty long scrabble games.
It's a worthwhile clip in regards to UX. The person has difficulty grasping the HC UI, as he himself admitted a couple of times. That would be an issue Android needs to address, once HC gets out of beta, as I think he is representative of the larger population.
I don't think it's to anyone's benefit to act superior and nitpick on the person's lack of technical acumen. Nothing indicates that he has a pro-Apple or anti-Android bias. He had prior experience with the iPad, and would naturally use it as a yardstick. Given the market penetration the iPad will have had once Android (and other platforms) finally gets going, I think it will be true of many.
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It's a worthwhile clip in regards to UX. The person has difficulty grasping the HC UI, as he himself admitted a couple of times. That would be an issue Android needs to address, once HC gets out of beta, as I think he is representative of the larger population.
I don't think it's to anyone's benefit to act superior and nitpick on the person's lack of technical acumen. Nothing indicates that he has a pro-Apple or anti-Android bias. He had prior experience with the iPad, and would naturally use it as a yardstick. Given the market penetration the iPad will have had once Android (and other platforms) finally gets going, I think it will be true of many.
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I'm pretty sure the larger population would know better and try to learn about their device before they use it (as they would naturally be afraid of doing something wrong). Especially before making a video of it. The name "ILIVONMYIphone" (I live on my iPhone) and the smart remarks he made doesn't signify he's pro apple? And I don't think anybody is acting superior to him. But it's also not to anyone's benefit to watch an uninformative and biased review such as that.
If names and labels were an indication of credibility, then you may want to change yours.
What I've read in this thread is a bunch of Android fanboys making fun of a non-techie's experience and acting snobbish.
[Insert nerd snort] Yah my comments were a little snarky. My damn android-fanboitis was acting up a little bit.
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There are some names that are, and some that aren't. My name is clearly a joke and also what this discussion is not about. And if he was a "non-techie" he wouldn't have an ipad, iphone, heck he wouldn't even have a youtube. So he obviously has some sort of tech knowledge. Especially claiming "...its more outdated then the iPad 1 and iPhone 3GS or 4. I think the 3GS would be faster than it." (which also indicates he's pro apple). Also, there is a huge difference in android fanboys and people who just see a bad review. Not because of what they were reviewing or anything. Just the fact that it was biased, and uninformative makes it horrible. There are xoom bashing videos where they at least got the specs right. And those are fine.
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If names and labels were an indication of credibility, then you may want to change yours.
What I've read in this thread is a bunch of Android fanboys making fun of a non-techie's experience and acting snobbish.
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Since we are on a Xoom forum, I would expect posters here to be somewhat offended at what seemed to be a poorly made, derisive review of a complex device that we are working hard to master. Maybe we should just be completely objective and rise above the negativity, but I for one feel protective of the Xoom and the Xoom community, and want it to be successful, so our wonderful developers can continue to invest their hard work to support it.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Foxconn-Hon-Hai-Galaxy-S-III-iPhone-5-apple,16090.html
I nearly chuckled when I saw this one.
I guess that means it must run Android then, because if it runs iOS it doesnt stand a chance of doing so..
Lets be frank here, it will look much the same as the current iPhone (boring), it will feel much the same to use (boring), it will be locked down and restricted like the current iPhone (boring), and will have the same (boring) baristas, emos are douches queueing up for it on day one. Ill pass.
Is it a ploy from apple to stop people from buying s3??
Only the facts will tell the truth.. there is no point in giving statements without concrete facts. Bad move apple...
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Galaxy s3 has already made iphone 5 to shiver...the big thing is...iphone 5 is yet a prototype and apple feared that Galaxy may put iphone 5 to shame so they pleadged to ban s3 sales in usa... now tel me whos afraid ??? and whos ashamed??..
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At this point Apple buyers are like BMW buyers, they will buy any old ridiculous turd as long as it has the badge on, so really statements like this are just sermons for the iSheep, and pretty meaningless to the rest of us. As long as Apple makes it they will buy it, why? because Apples says its best and therefore it is. Its almost a religion now..
But dude, it has an apple logo.
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Some rumors I've read claim that it will be equipped with a dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon S4.
I think that a good optimization can make the difference, placing Apple's smartphone between HTC One S and Android quad-core phones.
IMHO Apple will put a enormous capacity battery into the iPhone...
I guess since we're comparing a phone that will be out several months later that doesn't even exist yet; we'll compare it to another like phone... I'm sure the GSIV will put the iPhone 5 to shame then lol.
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Some rumors I've read claim that it will be equipped with a dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon S4.
I think that a good optimization can make the difference, placing Apple's smartphone between HTC One S and Android quad-core phones.
IMHO Apple will put a enormous capacity battery into the iPhone...
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I cant see that, Apple will want their own CPU in there (and by that i mean a modified Samsung as the A4 and A5 were). It will probably have the A5x.
PErsonally I'm quite excited for the iPhone 5 and what it will bring.
Having had a look at the rubbish minor "new" features for iOS, I'm thinking Apple will have drastically improved the hardware of iPhone 5.
That is good for the whole industry
I'm sure the new iPhone will be excellent. Without new iPhones and new Galaxy's wouldn't it get boring. These companies need to push out great phones to keep giving us great products.
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I cant see that, Apple will want their own CPU in there (and by that i mean a modified Samsung as the A4 and A5 were). It will probably have the A5x.
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I apologize. Probably you're right. My "not very good" english fooled me... I've read on cnet an article about iphone and qualcomm production issues. Please check it on your own, I can't add link yet.
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Is it a ploy from apple to stop people from buying s3??
Only the facts will tell the truth.. there is no point in giving statements without concrete facts. Bad move apple...
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It wasn't Apple. It was FoxConn. They build devices for Apple AND other companie as well.
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I'm sure the new iPhone will be excellent. Without new iPhones and new Galaxy's wouldn't it get boring. These companies need to push out great phones to keep giving us great products.
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Exactly. Android fanboys are just as juvenile as iPhone fanboys.
Competition is good.
iphone 5 it may come at nov/dec this year end, Galaxy NOTE 2nd version will be out there with android 4.1 .......
poor apple fun still waiting / sleeping in front of apple shop queuing , as foxconn not able to deliever on time etc.
haha
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Exactly. Android fanboys are just as juvenile as iPhone fanboys.
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Yogi bear says ;
But we're smarter than the average "sheep"
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Yogi bear says ;
But we're smarter than the average "sheep"
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I don't think smarts has anything to do with it really. Rooting and installing ROM's is a whole lot easier than jailbreaking and using it's related tools, etc..
I just think the 'average' Android user and the 'average' iOS user could really care less..
every new device,if the job is done well, is goint to become leader at the time of its introduction it will be same with iphone 6 and then again with galaxy s4, etc.
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I don't think smarts has anything to do with it really. Rooting and installing ROM's is a whole lot easier than jailbreaking and using it's related tools, etc..
I just think the 'average' Android user and the 'average' iOS user could really care less..
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You missed my ambiguous point:
The last few seconds of the Samsung SGS3 Teaser...... "you can now stand out from ......."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hudqvbAetPE
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I think it was a clever move by foxconn. The more people that get the s3 the less that will be available 2 sign up for a 2 year contract on the new iphone and the less orders foxconn will receive . And consequently the less money they make.
I personally think the iphone is easier for people to use who are novices. And it's more stable. However the s3 if you know how can do so much more.
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Ok before I get started I would like to stress I am no fanboy of either apple or android... I simply like good products... So no flaming please.
Now down to business, the biggest problem with the S3 (yes I own one) is the fact that samsung (and all non GED devices to be fair) seem to forget the fundamental rule... Optimize the software to run effectively on the hardware. The galaxy nexus (Yes I own one) for me runs just as fast as the s3 in terms of web browsing and general use... Yes the animations are slightly smoother on the s3 but how is it possible for the browser to not have any significant speed improvement??
Fact of the matter is that apple will optimize the iPhone 5 to the extent that it doesn't need the hardware the s3 has to run as fast (rest assured as always it always does, will flatten the s3 in benchmarks and browser speeds).
Apple seem to understand that optimisation is the way forward and this is why the next Nexus is a no brainer... Touchwiz can do all it does but it will never run as smoothly nor work as well as AOSP.
This review screamed "apple fan boy" from the start. Smdh at so many android haters in the world. Especially one who works for a irrelevant news outlet
He says the s3 has an outdated processor. Is he serious? Thy shows me he knows nothing about this phone
http://www.examiner.com/article/rev...axy-s3-is-just-another-ordinary-android-phone
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phyba said:
This review screamed "apple fan boy" from the start. Smdh at so many android haters in the world. Especially one who works for a irrelevant news outlet
He says the s3 has an outdated processor. Is he serious? Thy shows me he knows nothing about this phone
http://www.examiner.com/article/rev...axy-s3-is-just-another-ordinary-android-phone
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First of all who is "examiner.com"? Secondly, the author lost all credibility with me when he wrote: However, you definitely feel the height and length when talking on the phone for a long time.What the heck is the difference between height and length?
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First of all who is "examiner.com"? Secondly, the author lost all credibility with me when he wrote: However, you definitely feel the height and length when talking on the phone for a long time.What the heck is the difference between height and length?
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Lol. Good point. Wth does that mean??
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That poor soul... c'mon guys give your sympathy to another iSheep added to the flock, scared to broaden his horizons. I pity the foo.
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He's more than entitled to his opinion but he should write about it intelligently.
Think the author of this article still drinks from a sippy cup, and needs to be led places, because he obviously has no thoughts of his own and is hand fed his knowledge from his mommy.... LOL... that or his IQ is very low.
All kidding aside this was so funny. I always love the apple fanbois.
I had the first iphone (before android was out), and I was part of the guys that was hacking it at version 1.02 of IOS, and figuring out jailbreaking and such.
I have owned Macs since the early 90s, but the iphone in my opinion is a kids toy, compared to Andriod based phones (much more customize-able, and "hack-able")
From the author of the article, "Fabio, any dual-core processor is outdated. The US version uses a dual-core processor."
I wonder if he even knows that his iPhone is outdated now.
El Nivek said:
From the author of the article, "Fabio, any dual-core processor is outdated. The US version uses a dual-core processor."
I wonder if he even knows that his iPhone is outdated now.
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Why is this guy even writing tech articles he obviously knows nothing about technology.
Ummm... Because anyone can call themselves a blogger and publish what they want?
ick!
I'm fed up with apple BS. I just had an argument this morning about android and ios with one of my close friend's who's also in IT. I'm an android fanboy but i can clearly say without any hesitation that apple does make great products. I had an iphone4, an ipad, and an apple tv. Good stuff. As much as I like their stuff, I don't think it's necessarily better; Just different. I like having a choice. I've been with android since day one and know that android is just as capable as any ios device, and in some cases more capable. I love than I can get a phone in any size shape or color from any carrier. Apple people think that's bad for some reason.
Ever listen to any of their presentations? They sound like this.
"70% of apple users upgrade to the latest version of our OS 100% more than any other OS. Today we're announcing that everyone can get the latest version for only... $20"
Does that make any sense to you? They actually said something like this at WWDC2012. Every one of their slides and charts has all sorts of skewed information and apple sheep eat it right up. Like when they say that the ipad has over 200k apps designed for it, then they diss android. But they don't mention that every single android app since ICS built for both phones and tablets. Nah they leave that part out.
Apple gets praised for selling OS updates for $20.
Windows gets slammed for giving people service packs for free.
Apple gets praise for updating it's last two iphones, but google gets slammed for only upgrading their last two and not the every other manufacturers phones. It seems unfair, and simply childish at this point trying to talk to apple people. God (for those who believe in him/her) could come from heaven and say that Android is really better, and apple people would still deny it.
This writer should be ashamed of himself for not only drinking the cool-aid, but for letting it skew his review and putting out bad information to consumers.
just left a nice comment under the name LearnGadget
Apparently many many people are annoyed with him...
Oh this kid clearly has never had 4.8" in his hand before
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Oh this kid clearly has never had 4.8" in his hand before
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He probably has in his mouth.
"The GPS eats a lot of battery life fast, so it's important to keep this off when you don't need it"
What? Really? So the phone uses GPS 24/7 now?
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"The GPS eats a lot of battery life fast, so it's important to keep this off when you don't need it"
What? Really? So the phone uses GPS 24/7 now?
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Yeah that guy is a tool that doesn't know what he's talking about.
That article is funny, he's obviously clueless.
He comments later, "any dual-core processor is outdated."
This one is pretty funny too, not as bad but some of the claims are really biased-sounding.
It's at gadgetreview . com, can't post links...
"Compared to the Galaxy S II, the newer Galaxy S III looks plasticy and somewhat poorly built. The back panel is a single bendable plastic glossy slab, and the front is all display. Compare that with the iPhone, or any recent high-end smartphone, and the GS3 looks like a kids toy from the back. "
"My opinion is that iOS is still the stronger operating system; it’s simpler, easier to manage, and anyone switching between the two OS’s will be better off with iOS in any case."
"Samsung has included some great additions using their user interface, but it isn’t likely going to make the overall OS better than iOS. "
I don't think the guy has even held a gs3. And a simpler os does not make a better os. And any iphone ive used is always cluttered because the home screen holds all the apps.
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I just sent him this in an email, not because he doesn't like a phone that I do, but because he's an idiot! Lol
Dear uninformed,
Wow is all I have to say! I own several smartphones and one of those is a US Galaxy S3 variamt. I'm well aware that you did not ever actually use one of them before you wrote this review.
If you in fact have used any of them, then you have zero credibility when it comes to technology! Even if you don't care for the phone, which I personally like but there are others I care for more, your conclusions of outdated processor, bad camcorder, and camera is not as good as the s2, are so completely far off from what is obvious to even a smartphone beginner!
Total crap journalism, and absolutely the most uninformed, uneducated, clueless "tech journalist" (if that's your title at this.... Blog Site?) that I have ever layed eyes on!
By the way, we are having a hell of a time laughing our asses off at you in a thread dedicated just for you at XDA!
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.... SELECT A NEW LINE OF WORK!