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cracked screen - what do I need?

Just cracked my screen today. I went searching on Ebay and saw LCD screens and a digitizer. What parts do I need? either or both?
Phone still works, just can't read anything on the screen. It lights up but its all messed up.
I'm in the US, anyone have a phone for parts?

If you think that you can do it yourself, you will have to order a new LCD component and - just to be on the save side - a digitizer as well. Your best source might be eBay. Other than that, the Hermes really dropped in price, so, if you want to stick with a Hermes, try to get you a new one on eBay and keep your broken one for parts.

NO!!!!!!! You just need the LCD. Make sure it has the digitizer ALREADY on it. Save some $$ and some stuffing around with a possible failure.
In Oz I can get 1 for less than $100. You should be able to get them cheaper depending where you are in the world.
When you get the LCD/digitizer combo then use the Hermes HTC Service manual to pull apart your Hermes and put back together. You'll also need a size 6 torque key, a smll flatblade screwdriver and a small philips head screwdriver.
Take the steps 1 at a time and if you don't understand something then reread until you do.
When you put back together watch out for the camera focus and the battery access latch. If you don't line up the camera focus switch with the swich on the back cover you will have problems and if you put the battery latch on the wrong way you're not gonna be able to get the battery cover off easily.
Cheers...

Thanks for the advice. I'mgoing to try to do this myself and save a few bucks. I checked local repair shops and they want $120 to repair.
I haven't seen any LCD's that mention they have the digitizer with it. Is there a way to tell? Otherwise, I'll see what I can find.

ultramag69 said:
NO!!!!!!! You just need the LCD. Make sure it has the digitizer ALREADY on it. ...
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LOL,
So, he needs the digitizer!

Yes Junner2003, but you DON'T buy it separately... That is a MAJOR pain in the neck. Its almost impossible to attach properly.
The LCD should come with the digitizer attached. Ask the seller if it is. If they say "no" then go elsewhere. There's no point in saving a few bucks on an LCD that may not be made to work properly.

Thanks for that tip. I found one with the digitizer so I'm crossing my fingers.

Replacement touch screen

I have couple of scratches on my touch pro screen.when the device is on the scratches are like rainbow colors really visible.If I change the touch screen (not the whole lcd screen) that will fix my problem right? Did any1 do this?

ummm i think when u meant by "rainbow colors" then ure gonna have to replace the WHOLE LCD screen, cuz more than likely its from the LCD screen, and i dont think the touch screen and LCD screen are 2 parts...i think theyre just one...not sure, but try to look on ebay OR idk if u have warranty on it u can probably call in HTC about it...

This is what I think will fix the scratches
Code:
[CODE]http://mobile1.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=03976&dept_id=088&cat_id=0695
Code:

Much cheaper
For Digitizer Module for T-Mobile MDA Vario IV Touch Diamond
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.20648
For HTC Diamond
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.20647
I don't know if it fit the same as Touch Pro or Fuze, but read the spec

I have difficult time finding a How to replace digitizer video.
Any help?
Thanks

radoste said:
I have difficult time finding a How to replace digitizer video.
Any help?
Thanks
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Maybe this can help.Its a How to remove cameras from touch pro with pictures
Code:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/h2mmwetxnij/HTC%20Touch%20Pro%20-%20Camera%20removal%20photo%20guide%20v1.1%20by%20A%20Mak.pdf

I saw that. It does not show how to remove the screen.
Why would you want to remove the camera?

radoste said:
I saw that. It does not show how to remove the screen.
Why would you want to remove the camera?
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I wouldnt, thats just the only touch pro take apart that I found with pictures

mikechannon.net is a good place to start. But if you are looking to replace the digitizer only, you won't find it there. It's a bad move anyway. I tried that, cracked my lcd and end-up buying the whole lcd like this.
All I can tell you are my mistakes.... lol....
- never peel of the digitizer. it will ruin it.
- never try to remove the lcd with cutter blade. this is how i cracked it (stupid me and still regret it)
- between the lcd and the digitizer there is a thick, clear double tape like glue. i came across some information about this somewhere (forget where...). one said you should heat the glue first (don't know how to apply this without affecting the lcd) . other one said have to use dental floss.
So, there you go.

HTC Touch Pro- LCD & Digitizer replacement instuctions
Hi everyone. I have SCOURGED the internet looking for some kind of decent instructions to replace the LCD & Digitizer screen on my HTC Touch Pro (Sprint) phone with the new set I purchased from Hong Kong. Mike Shannon's site does NOT give directions for this specific area.
I have seen you all talking about needing to do the same thing and wonder if anyone has done it? And do you have any directions to help me?
I've had this part for a month now, and can't find any directions to do it! My dog chewed it, and the touch works, but the screen is half black now. I read it is easier/less risky to replace both lcd and digitizer, which I went ahead and purchased them both with the tools, now I just need to find something decent (instructions) to have help replacing it.
thanks to anyone who can step up to help me, I'm frustrated beyond all comprehension, and now feel I may as well ditch the phone if I can't find a way to replace it. Or maybe you know someone I could send it off to? Everyone wants to charge a couple hundred bucks sending it in to them!

to the appling heat ...u can try putting it in a ziploc bag and boiling it ...and for the instructions this is the best i can do for u http://store.payloadz.com/str-asp-i...nance_Manual_eBooks_Technical-end-detail.html
im pretty sure after all ur fustration 8 dollars wont kill u ...and im pretty sure the condensation from the boiling wont hurt
and i found a free one hope it helps http://www.htcdriver.com/index.php?page=htc-raphael

it's a long trip, in russian, to get to the lcd
http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/htc-touch-pro/
You can use Google translate on it. It seems that the hardest component to get to is the lcd. I also bought the digitizer, since my lcd is fine. I'll post a follow-up if I go for it.

Any luck getting the touch screen off and new one on?
I bought a touch screen and digitizer as separate items. I wish I had known that some kind of clear adhesive is supposed to be between them.
A) What happens if you don't use this adhesive?
B) Has anyone successfully replaced the screen/digitizer with replacements on the fuze or touch pro?

Anyone having luck?
Has anyone actually figured out how to install this? I just got what was supposed to be a replacement LCD+digitizer. they shipped the pieces seperate, so I can't understand how to put them together, since HTC seems to only list the part as one piece and there are no instructions or videos anywhere that indicate how to install them as seperate pieces, or get them to connect.

Dont do it!!
Ok, I just recently bought a parts phone on here (a Fuze) and was "just going to replace the digitizer" (Authors laughs, then cries at statement)
Ok, yes you can replace the digitizer without replacing the screen, BUT they tell you to use an oven (you can buy one from HTC they make it available to their techs, so you need someone that can get that for you). If you do not make sure that ALL of the glue is loose prior to taking the digitizer off you will split the LCD.
It is much simpler to get either a parts phone or a screen and digitizer and replace the part. I had to replace my digitizer as the touch function did not work. You can find older project phones in the market section. If you figure the cost of a parts phone (plus you have extra parts if anything else goes out) vs. if you buy a digitizer, then rip a part of the LCD because all of the glue was not disolved, and have to buy either a parts phone or a new phone anyway you will be way ahead of the game.
There are a number of good resources on here as to how to disassemble and reassemble the fuze.
I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND TRYING TO REPLACE THE DIGITIZER ALONE IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN TRAINED OR HAVE THE PROPER EQUIPMENT - unless you need a reason to sell your spouse on why you need a new phone. "Honey, I tried my hardest to fix it, but I guess it is really broke now, I'm gonna have to get an HD2"
If you have any questions about the process let me know I am always more than happy to help.

http://www.mikechannon.net/PDF%20Manuals/HTC%20Raphael_SM_A10%20_GENERIC__01%20Dec%20
pkwhisker said:
Mike Shannon's site does NOT give directions for this specific area.
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Yes, indeed, mike channon does offer a very detailed service manual for the raphael.

Replacing the display on the HTC Touch Pro (Raphael): Some Tips
Replacing the display on the HTC Touch Pro
How To - Tips
1. Collect information
a. Find the Service Manual HTC Touch Pro (Raphael) on Mike Channons's site, the Raphael wiki or you could Google for it. File name is "HTC Raphael_SM_A10 _GENERIC__01 Dec 08.pdf".
Take a look at the disassembly and assembly chapters of the Service Manual.
The following two lists may be helpful.
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List 1: types and quantities of screws
[SPL no., P/N, pages of Service Manual, description, quantity used in Raphael]
10. 72H01893-00M (see p. 34), black (middle length), 2x
11. 72H02450-00M (see p. 32, 34, 30), black (shortest type), 7x
12. 72H02474-00M (p. 37), black (longest type), 4x
13. 72H02689-00M (p. 30), metal, 4x
26. 72H02865-00M (p. 35), metal, 6x
27. 72H02886-00M (p. 35), 1x torque screw for M/B, 1x
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List 2: kinds of tape/fabric used in the Raphael
a. Conductive fabric
Self adhesive conductive fabric, parts 14-24 on the SPL. The adhesive backside is also conductive.
b. Mylar
A specific kind of polyethylenetereftalaat (PET) used for electical insulation.
c. Kapton tape
Kapton is a polyimide film which can remain stable in a wide range of temperatures. (electrical insulation)
d. EMI gasket
EMI shields are implemented in a design to isolate one component or section of a device from another.
e. Double sided tape
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b. Movies of the disassembly process can be found on YouTube for the HTC Diamond.
The Diamond does not have an integrated keyboard, so it is a bit different, but it is good enough to get an idea of the process.
The information on how to replace the screen itself is not found in the service manual.
c. Study the last few stages of the HTC Touch Pro page on pdacenter.ru
(Translate the page into English using Google.)
The display is attached to the metal frame by 4 small pieces of double sided tape.
3. Get some tools
a. Phillips (cross head) screwdriver size 00x50
The right size is 00. The length, 50mm, is less important.
There is one torque screw in the Raphael (SPL no. 27), but it can easily be handled by a normal screwdriver.
b. Plastic stick (to open the case)
The standard plastic stick I had ordered was actually too big. The one I made myself was smaller and proved to be better.
c. Other tools
I did not use these, but if you plan to do more than one it would be a good idea to use the
- plastic tweezers
- ESD wrist wrap
- rubber gloves
4. Buy a display with touch screen attached to it
You could buy the touch screen and the display separately, but I could not find any information on putting them together. Avoid problems by buying these already attached.
5. Replace the display
a. Disassemble following the Service Manual, leaving the M/B unit in order.
Be careful not to break the small speaker cords. Do not move them too much because they are very fragile.
Be sure to keep every piece of tape safe for reassembly. Buying new tape can be quite expensive.
b. For the last stages, follow the instructions from pdacenter.ru.
Press the old display gently out of the metal frame. Move the pieces of double sided tape from the old to the new display, and fit the new one into the metal frame.
c. Reassemble following the Service Manual.
Good luck!

What will fit what?
Will the lcd and digitizer from a sprint version work on an alltel version(ppc-6850)? Or is there another lcd and digitizer that i can use? Im back to the old berry 8703 and its killing me.

spammer said:
if you just find scratches on the surface, then you just need to change the touch screen digitizer. the soldering is requested when you fit it.
But of course, if you buy the one that lcd and touch screen fit together one, then no soldering request.
Anyway, soldering is not such difficult if you has the tool.
thanks
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I don't see any soldering involved there. The digitizer is fitted with thin lines of some kind of glue or kit around the edges. I have not seen any documentation on it though.

ingmardb said:
I don't see any soldering involved there. The digitizer is fitted with thin lines of some kind of glue or kit around the edges. I have not seen any documentation on it though.
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you can look at the connect flex cable part of your touch screen and the lcd, you will find they are soldered together. Of course , if you don't soldering it together, it will also work, but not as good as after soldering.

Broken Screen

Hi all,
I have a HD2 and some numpty decided running a shopping trolley into my leg would be fun... the result, I have a broken screen.
The actual damage appears to only be superficial, I can still use the touch screen and the phone is in full working order but the glass has cracked.
I've been looking online and all I can find is a replacement digitizer... I am wondering if anyone know that this is what I need or not?
Regards
Ben

If the touchscreen still works then you don't need to replace the digitizer. You only need the glass part, but separating the digitizer from the glass and replacing it is a very difficult process and you would probably be better off getting a whole new screen assembly instead.

if the touch screen still works then in theory you just need a new piece of glass, not a digitizer (which is a thin plastic sheet).
problem is whether or not you can get the old digitizer off thee broken glass without damaging it.

mZimm said:
If the touchscreen still works then you don't need to replace the digitizer. You only need the glass part, but separating the digitizer from the glass and replacing it is a very difficult process and you would probably be better off getting a whole new screen assembly instead.
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Do you know of anywhere that sells the full set up?
B

Anyone know anything about this? I really need to get it fixed quickly

Found something on Mobilefun (check google cant paste links)
Would that be suitable?
Its the glass display and digitizer?

If you want to try to do it yourself these official HTC repair videos may help.
Disassemble - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-jnUKufC4&feature=player_embedded
Reassemble - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8Q7mXdcJ54&feature=channel

I suppose I could do it myself but I'm really looking at prices of parts before I take it to some phone shop, I would have my insurance cover it but my bank are being arses about it...
That way if they say its 150.00 then I can say ahhhh na....

ba0987 said:
I would have my insurance cover it but my bank are being arses about it...
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You have a premium debit account that insures your phone?

yeh, however they claim I never registered it even though I have provided them proof of my telephone call...
Not impressed but I would rather put that behind me closing the account with them and moving banks
and how far into the process do you have to go before you take off the glass section of the phone I can see it seperate at the end but I didnt see whem it was taken off
ta B

this is not really related to repairing your own broekn hd2, but it's for sure youtube gave it to me as a related video to the HD2 reassemble:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db7pKjUrNXQ
I loved it, every bit of it.

I have a Natwest Premium account and I wouldn't trust them with my phone insurance as far as I could throw them. The £10 I spend a month on my O2 insurance is worth it, i've claimed 2-3 times in the last 4 years, and they have bought the new one to my door and taken the pieces of my old ones away, job's a goodun!
And as for your question I haven't a clue if I am honest, I have never disassembled a HD2 before. Thank God.

[Q] Which digitizer for my HD2 and where from?

I've successfully taken my HD2 apart now I'm not sure about the digitizer I need. My phone doesn't have a T-Mobile logo and it came with the leather pouch which I read means it's not the T-M version.
I'm looking for a new digitizer and the one that looks like the connector would fit says it's for the T-M version. Rather than go on about it here is a pic of my digitizer. I'm in the UK so if anybody has shopping suggestions I'd be grateful.
Ty

hypertyper said:
I've successfully taken my HD2 apart now I'm not sure about the digitizer I need. My phone doesn't have a T-Mobile logo and it came with the leather pouch which I read means it's not the T-M version.
I'm looking for a new digitizer and the one that looks like the connector would fit says it's for the T-M version. Rather than go on about it here is a pic of my digitizer. I'm in the UK so if anybody has shopping suggestions I'd be grateful.
Ty
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I can't say too much based from picture posted above ...
It could have already replaced unbranded digitizer or it's Telstra, European, Taiwanese version... Are the call and end buttons colored on your phone (green and red respectively)?
If You have enough money, about 89-120$, better choice will be to buy a LCD+digitizer assembly also named LCM, they will work at all versions of HD2, not only T-mobile or European, I tested the LCM from European HD2 with in a T-mobile version of HD2 ant it works perfect. So go on eBay.com and buy one

Call buttons are all grey. I've though about getting the whole combo but it's more than twice the price and I'm not exactly rich so it would have been nice to just get a digitizer. I was hoping there would a way to identify properly which digitizer I need. I've sent a message to one of the suppliers on ebay. I'll see what comes out of it.
According to this article the different versions of the HD2 aren't physically the same size in terms of casing. Do the LCM units fit all the same?
pocketnow"dot"com/thought/t-mobile-hd2-vs-htc-hd2-comparison

Clarification
hypertyper said:
Call buttons are all grey. I've though about getting the whole combo but it's more than twice the price and I'm not exactly rich so it would have been nice to just get a digitizer. I was hoping there would a way to identify properly which digitizer I need. I've sent a message to one of the suppliers on ebay. I'll see what comes out of it.
According to this article the different versions of the HD2 aren't physically the same size in terms of casing. Do the LCM units fit all the same?
pocketnow"dot"com/thought/t-mobile-hd2-vs-htc-hd2-comparison
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Let me help you:
#1.your picture is defining an uncommon/unbranded TMO(bile)US touchscreen(No doubt about, at least for me!), but grey hardware keys are for international HD2 model, probably you have a (let say) hybrid (home made)version between american(TMOUS) and international model;
#2.nevertheless, in your financial position, I'll look on ebay for an appropriate touchscreen model(there are plenty, most of them with very clear pictures like your's) for about US$30-40;
#3. if you want a combo, as far as I know(and pvii already said it) the 2 LCMs are geometrically identical, but the frame/chasis on which lay on the LCM is different(the american model is longer on 2,0-2,5mm);
#4. international model is cheaper & easier to find.
For more informations/help feel free to contact me!
Cheers!

hypertyper said:
Call buttons are all grey. I've though about getting the whole combo but it's more than twice the price and I'm not exactly rich so it would have been nice to just get a digitizer. I was hoping there would a way to identify properly which digitizer I need. I've sent a message to one of the suppliers on ebay. I'll see what comes out of it.
According to this article the different versions of the HD2 aren't physically the same size in terms of casing. Do the LCM units fit all the same?
pocketnow"dot"com/thought/t-mobile-hd2-vs-htc-hd2-comparison
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May be it will be better if You post a photo of rear side of your display or at least say it's product number (from sticker on square copper pad, rear side), i.e. P/N:60H00300-00P is for T-Mobile and P/N:60H00295-00P is for international version.
If You don't have enough money for a european LCM combo, you can buy a LCD apart and digitizer apart, even from different sellers but you have to buy matching parts, both for European or both for T-Mobile version.

Thanks for the info guys. The serial number is the kind of solid identification that I was looking for. The serial on my screen ending in 300-00P indicates that it's the TMobile version.
My theory is that since this phone was bought when it wasn't exactly new on the market HTC had switched to the solderless screens which seem more modern?!?
I'm assuming that in terms of connection the digitisers that look like they will fit in terms of connection should work. I'm only worried about the dimensions of it since the casing of mine is smaller than the real TMobile version from what I can tell.
Since I can't find anything else on ebay I guess I'll order one of the TMobile ones and see if it fits. I'll look for a shop with return policy just in case.
Thanks for the help. If anybody has further suggestions I'd love to hear them.

[/QUOTE]I'm only worried about the dimensions of it since the casing of mine is smaller than the real TMobile version from what I can tell.
Thanks for the help. If anybody has further suggestions I'd love to hear them.[/QUOTE]
Read carefully my previous post:
you don't have to be worry, the touchscreen, lcd and lcm are geometrically (length x width) identical!

I'm only worried about the dimensions of it since the casing of mine is smaller than the real TMobile version from what I can tell.
Thanks for the help. If anybody has further suggestions I'd love to hear them.[/QUOTE]
Read carefully my previous post:
you don't have to be worry, the touchscreen, lcd and lcm are geometrically (length x width) identical![/QUOTE]
Yupp, any LCM will fit on any model of HD2.

I wasn't sure which part was identical but if the digitizers are then what I ordered should do the trick. Digitizer should arrive this week so hopefully I'll have something to report about
edit: Digitizer arrived and fits perfectly. I guess my phone was some weird mutation. Solution is to just buy a digitizer with the correct connection, job done.
Oh and getting the right tape is a total *****. I had to take everything apart again because my tape wasn't strong enough!

I thought I'd post my findings and produce some cliffnotes on how I fixed my HD2.
Firstly, if you search youtube for "leo as" and "leo dis" you will find the official HTC videos on how to assemble and dis-assemble the HD2. They make it look easier than it is. Also, they don't separate the digitizer from the screen.
I ordered the tools to "dis" off ebay. Especially the T5 screwdriver was worth getting since it allowed me to find out which digitizer I need. I have a non TMobile version but needed the TM digitizer.
I found that using an old credit card type of card works very well for taking the phone apart. It can reach further into the phone and bends rather than breaking like some of the cheap tools from ebay.
Especially for separating the digitizer and screen it's great. I heated up the digitizer & lcd combo in the oven for a couple of minutes like the video advertised for taking the middle part of the phone apart (you'll see in the vid). Here comes the interesting part: Instead of sliding the card / tool all the way across the screen (between screen and digi), it's enough to just separate it around the edges. There is no glue or adhesive in the middle. It seems obvious now but I got lots of glue all over the LCD which was a bit** to clean.
Another tip that is worth repeating is getting the cheap double sided tape from ebay which is meant for Iphone digitizers (3M branded). I got three of them for £1 incl delivery. I used it to put the "middle" of the phone together. Screen and digi I did with cheap double sided tape which is working but I regret somewhat.
Another tip would be the whit cable (flash?) which goes on the bottom of the mainboard. I put it on top to start with. It's easy to mix up. Also it makes sense to put one end on before you put down the mainboard because that way you still have proper access.
Make sure you have good tape and be patient. I had crap tape and just slammed things together because I was so keen to see if the phone still works. I had to take it all apart again which almost broke the phone because it was coming apart in all sorts of places.
Overall it's like a big, fragile puzzle. I got the phone from a family member who had dropped it so all I had to get was the digitizer and tape. Now I have the best phone that ever lived
If anybody has questions, I feel like I know the hardware of the HD2 inside out.

I also took mine apart to replace the digitizer. I haven't got the new one yet though. I also watched the take apart vid on youtube. Unlike you I didn't disconnect the white wire from under the board. As a matter of fact, I left the other wires attached to the mainboard and just disconnected them from the GPS, camera and Bluetooth boards. At the end of the little channel that the wires are in, there was a little metal tab that held the wires in place. I just bent the tab up to remove the wires. Like you I used a piece of credit card to loosen the glued pieces.

HD2 Digitizer+Screen

Ok i can get a hd2 for cheap £70 with pressure damage to the screen so there is a blue circle, i was wondering how hard it is to replace the screen and the digitzer? i can get them for about £55 i think but dont want to risk it if its really hard to do, i read that removing the digitizer is hard but the whole thing i cant find any info about?

I just replaced my digitizer and yes it is not easy... Most of it requires patience and right tools. I had to take mine apart twice(put keyboard in upside down lol), second time only took 30 minutes total even with readjustment of digitizer. That part is very important or the buttons feel weird and you will find gaps in top/ bottom. The htc guide on youtube is excellent, I used that, you can skip steps like disconnecting speaker cable and vibrator as you will notice if you do replace the digitizer by itself . Oh and its less expensive

I missed that you want to replace both. That is much easier. Go for it. Also search harder and look on youtube

Is there much that can go wrong replacing both? ive never opened a phone ive opened up my laptop and built pc's before though, just dont wanna pay £70 for a phone then £55+ on the screen to screw it up

Just be sure to use plastic tools, be careful, and follow guides found on these forums or on youtube. The screen is already broken so much less to worry about. I would recommend using a guitar pick (.5mm or about) when getting the main assembly out of the housing. hair dryer is a must for easy separation of the lcm module

http://pocketnow.com/hardware-1/official-htc-hd2-disassembly-assembly-training-videos-leaked
ive watched this video, so does that mean that all i have to do is take the battery out, unscrew those 4 screws then remove the housing, thenn skip all the removing individual components and instead just remove the LCM module from the chasis?

I found it very easy to replace the digitizer, and it was my first time. But like stated before Patience is VERY IMPORTANT and also be extremely careful.

cj91legss said:
I found it very easy to replace the digitizer, and it was my first time. But like stated before Patience is VERY IMPORTANT and also be extremely careful.
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Do not do it under flying helicopter or behind running air jet plane..

I just am worried ill end up spending £70 on a phone £60 on a screen then have a phone with two broken screens lol

I could just buy the LCD screen but its even harder to seperate the digitizer and lcd screen apparently right?

Hyuukai said:
I could just buy the LCD screen but its even harder to seperate the digitizer and lcd screen apparently right?
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