Identification - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello and Good day to all of xda's member.
I'm new to Android.
I bought my Defy used, and it comes flashed with some custom rom.
As its not in its original state, I do not know how to identify all those baseband,kernel or what is deep in the system.
The thing I know was that it was Android 2.2.1 which is a Froyo.
Recently there's so many great rom out there, which I think could greatly improve experience on using Defy as a real main phone which I migrated from a button based SE phone. Still trying hard to get used to it.
Hope you guys are kind enough to guide me abit so that I know how it goes.
Like Window based software, there's always a BIOS in the mobo and on top of it its a Window and Software ... etc.
I'm really interested in Quarx CM9 project and Wajk WIUI but know nothing about them, I need to know what I'm on, and what to be done to jump to those ROMs.
Basically those kernel and baseband are my toughest thing to identify.
On Android it was more of like Linux, which I couldn't familiar with.
There's an attach screen below, Please help me look out.
Thankful with that.

it has jboogies rom installed.
you can start by flashing a froyo sbf (cee) (2.2.2).
then root using super 1 click
install defy 2nd init
then flash a rom using recovery
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982
How to Flash
Ok! Now that we understand how a lot of stuff works, it’s rather easy to get a new Android version installed on your phone.
For any full SBF the same steps must be always done, just be sure to know what SBF are you flashing and keep always in mind your CG Version to keep the possibility to downgrade in case you need your warranty.
Requirements
Get the SBF you want to flash
- Full SBF: No Nandroid backup needed, always keep CG versioning in mind.
- Fixed SBF: You might need a matching Nandroid Backup.
Get and Install RSD Lite v4.9: There are reports of other versions working, but this one is what I have used.
Get and Install Motorola Drivers [32bits] [64bits]
Now to Business:
To Flash full SBFs, here is the standard procedure:
Open RSD Lite: Click on [ … ] Button and select your .SBF (Remember to rename to a short name and put it on root of your PC) and click Open.
Boot your phone into Bootloader Mode (check last section if you don’t know how to do it).
Now connect your Defy to your PC
The START button on RSD Lite should be available now, click and wait.

From where did you get your defy? Second hand?
Sent from my MB526 using Tapatalk 2

thanks
kanpurite said:
it has jboogies rom installed.
you can start by flashing a froyo sbf (cee) (2.2.2).
then root using super 1 click
install defy 2nd init
then flash a rom using recovery
---------- Post added at 11:02 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:59 AM ----------
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982
How to Flash
Ok! Now that we understand how a lot of stuff works, it’s rather easy to get a new Android version installed on your phone.
For any full SBF the same steps must be always done, just be sure to know what SBF are you flashing and keep always in mind your CG Version to keep the possibility to downgrade in case you need your warranty.
Requirements
Get the SBF you want to flash
- Full SBF: No Nandroid backup needed, always keep CG versioning in mind.
- Fixed SBF: You might need a matching Nandroid Backup.
Get and Install RSD Lite v4.9: There are reports of other versions working, but this one is what I have used.
Get and Install Motorola Drivers [32bits] [64bits]
Now to Business:
To Flash full SBFs, here is the standard procedure:
Open RSD Lite: Click on [ … ] Button and select your .SBF (Remember to rename to a short name and put it on root of your PC) and click Open.
Boot your phone into Bootloader Mode (check last section if you don’t know how to do it).
Now connect your Defy to your PC
The START button on RSD Lite should be available now, click and wait.
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Thanks for the brief reply.
Let me digest abit first before trying out.
and whats froyo sbf (cee) btw.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Motorola_Defy#Android_2.2_.28Froyo.29_Stock_ROMs

pjgowtham said:
From where did you get your defy? Second hand?
Sent from my MB526 using Tapatalk 2
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yup, its a used unit I bought.
but the fact is, it has been with me for the past almost 2years and I knew nothing about it since I use it as a wifi phone.
now I'm trying to migrate to this as a main phone and found out the flaws

kanpurite said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Motorola_Defy#Android_2.2_.28Froyo.29_Stock_ROMs
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thank you.
but i still do not understand it.
it should be this right what you mention "3.4.2 179-002 CEE Deblur 9 Jun 2011"
why not the latest Froyo "3.4.3-36-1.7 SEA15 June 2011 deblur - Latest Defy Stock ROM"
or even
Gingerbread 2.3.4 "leaked 2.3.4 officilal mb525 greens lens" as stock rom?
as the rom we are going is either Gingerbread or ICS.
Or this has something to do with what I has, I have to flash it first to another froyo before it could be flash to another upgraded Gingerbread or ICS.

CEE deblur is recommended be Quarx(one of the main developers)
however SEA works perfect(I've used it on mine)
dont go for gingerbread full sbf as they may affect your downgrade ability.
anyways both cm7,cm9 have froyo as their base so just flash one of the froyo sbf via rsd lite and you will be fine.

kanpurite said:
CEE deblur is recommended be Quarx(one of the main developers)
however SEA works perfect(I've used it on mine)
dont go for gingerbread full sbf as they may affect your downgrade ability.
anyways both cm7,cm9 have froyo as their base so just flash one of the froyo sbf via rsd lite and you will be fine.
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Hello, thanks for the recommendation, I really knows nothing about choosing the based ROM.
Haven't tried anything yet but my defy don't have any fancy boot option.
Just a very normal off.
and
I tried switching it on with vol- pwr up, as well as vol+ pwr up.
one will display:
Boot Loader 9.10
Click Ok to flash.
another will
Boot up and stuck at a screen with a
logo and Android doll and stuck there forever until battery removed.
Another thing I always saw is, rsdlite, nandroid, 2init, clockworkmod, titaniumbackup
on most of the flashing thread, I wonder what are they and whether they are download and install in the PC or in the Android itself.
Flashing need PC or just our Android with all data in will do?

Oh, you need to start from the scratch then !
Ok ,
1) First of all download and install 'RSD lite' on you pc.(google it or search the forum for direct link)
2) download the sbf from the link i gave before(go for SEA)
do this first and let me know !

kanpurite said:
Oh, you need to start from the scratch then !
Ok ,
1) First of all download and install 'RSD lite' on you pc.(google it or search the forum for direct link)
2) download the sbf from the link i gave before(go for SEA)
do this first and let me know !
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Done this,
Should I proceed on flashing it? I mean load the sbf and press start?
Should I do any backup at this moment?
(nandroid, 2init, clockworkmod, titaniumbackup) use which ?

All right.
since your's is not a stock rom , there is no need to do a nandroid backup.
your rom , it seems is already rooted , so you can install titanium backup and make a backup for apps.(if you want)
in case you want to make a nandroid backup as well ,install 2nd init( latest one )
This will install clockworkmod recovery on your phone.[Better skip this step because i dont know if clockwork mod recovery is there on your phone or not]
after backing up ,you can flash the sbf via rsd lite.
at the end of flashing it will reboot.
in case it does not reboot itself :-
1)Enter stock recovery (volume and power key)
2)when the traingle appears press both volume keys
3)select wipe data and cache option
4)reboot
now the phone will boot.
you will be on froyo 2.2.2 now.

kanpurite said:
All right.
since your's is not a stock rom , there is no need to do a nandroid backup.
your rom , it seems is already rooted , so you can install titanium backup and make a backup for apps.(if you want)
in case you want to make a nandroid backup as well ,install 2nd init( latest one )
This will install clockworkmod recovery on your phone.[Better skip this step because i dont know if clockwork mod recovery is there on your phone or not]
after backing up ,you can flash the sbf via rsd lite.
at the end of flashing it will reboot.
in case it does not reboot itself :-
1)Enter stock recovery (volume and power key)
2)when the traingle appears press both volume keys
3)select wipe data and cache option
4)reboot
now the phone will boot.
you will be on froyo 2.2.2 now.
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It has clockwordmod in.
I have also installed this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032212

ok then.
reboot the phone.
when led goes blue,press volume down.
you will enter the recovery.
enter custom recovery ( latest/stable )
select backup and restore.
backup.
your nandroid backup will be created.
after this reboot your phone and flash the sbf !

kanpurite said:
ok then.
reboot the phone.
when led goes blue,press volume down.
you will enter the recovery.
enter custom recovery ( latest/stable )
select backup and restore.
backup.
your nandroid backup will be created.
after this reboot your phone and flash the sbf !
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Thanks to you I think I can finally started to understand abit about its concept.
basically clockworkmod stuff/recovery is for us back up our current rom.
which is abit pointless if we are using custom-rom. unless we are eager to go back to the current custom-rom.
normally it would be for those with stock rom, for warranty purpose incase anything happen right?

rugaxp said:
Thanks to you I think I can finally started to understand abit about its concept.
basically clockworkmod stuff/recovery is for us back up our current rom.
which is abit pointless if we are using custom-rom. unless we are eager to go back to the current custom-rom.
normally it would be for those with stock rom, for warranty purpose incase anything happen right?
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correct

Awww.. after all this long.
Finally it has been done.
I realise that after flashing that SBF, Root capability is gone, I have tried to use SuperOneClick 2.3.3 and its seems to run fine.
The phone seems like getting alot missing error from Titanium Backup.
What's the next step to proceed on custom rom?
I guess now I'm on a Stock 2.2.2 Froyo right?
Edit:
Also now this far, there hasn't be any news on a Defy Unlock Bootloader right?
It is still in bootloader 9.10.
I wonder the Defy+ and Defy XT has it or not. I thought Motorola is going to do so? no?
Add: Latest screenie
I notice that baseband vers. doesn't change at all, and kernel seems to be similar. any idea what/how are they related to my flash?

perfect !
so you have obtained root , right ?
now install 2nd init (just like you did before)
this will install clockworkmod recovery(which should be gone after flashing!)
now place the rom you want in the folder download
(in sdcard\clockworkmod\download)
(since you are on froyo kernel right now ,select any froyo base rom :-
epsylon'd cm9 defy build
fuzz's cm9 defy build
or cm7 builds for defy)
also download the latest gapps (cm7 or cm9 ,based on the rom you select) and place in the same folder.
1)now reboot into recovery(press volume down on blue led)
2)select custom recovery
4)install zip from sd card
5)first install the rom then gapps
6)wipe data/factory reset
7)wipe cache and dalvik cache
8)reboot
and thats it !
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illustrated thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054447

btw,
i nvr got a chance to ask what is the ROM you are using and what are you recommending
for a better usage experience as a full fledge main phone.
i rely much on wifi/3g/gps and could not tolerate much on touch screen delays/lags.
i migrate to this from a SE W800i antique candybar button phone.

rugaxp said:
btw,
i nvr got a chance to ask what is the ROM you are using and what are you recommending
for a better usage experience as a full fledge main phone.
i rely much on wifi/3g/gps and could not tolerate much on touch screen delays/lags.
i migrate to this from a SE W800i antique candybar button phone.
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You can start with cm7.it is completely stable .
you may use maniac's , fuzz's , epsylons or quarx's build .
I'm on fuzz's build right now.
http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/gigglebread/index.php?id=jordan

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[Q] CM7 Installation

Mmy defy infos are:
Firmware: 2.2.2
Model: MB525
Build: JEM_3.4.3-36-1.1
Am I able to install CM7 ? and what are the steps/tips to install it ? I also want to be able to revert back to my stock in case i needed the warranty. thanks.
hey,man hmm, here what i did works for me so give it a try,btw there are lots of topic around this on xda you could easily look around!
1:download RSD LITE
2:download the SBF (stock one,i used stock froyo)
3.open rsd lite and find your sbf
4:hold volume key + or up and power on the phone
5:now it should be the first device on the list click that and push start
6: now you are done,go to reroot your device and install Clockwork MOD recovery can find it here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875233)
7.download the cm7.1 and put it in root of your sd card
8.boot into recovery mode using clockworkmod then wipe/factory
9.select zip to be install,select the cm7
10. now your done after flashed!
this worked for me but if you have any problem you could ask,i will try my best xD
steps 1 & 2 confused me, why i should flash froyo if i already have it ?
then skip step 1 or 2 if you firmware is already stock
ok, but what about if i wanted to re-flash for warranty ?
Flashing from cm7 to stock froyo via sbf is a non-issue
i didnt find the sbf for my build version at the sbf list here
took me 10 seconds to find it! Seriously!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122210
read the build#.... it is JEM_3.4.3-36-1.1
iam still a newbie, sorry!
LOL... I hope my post didn't sound rude! I promise it wasn't my intent. I try to help as much as my knowledge allows! Sometimes we all just wish peeps would browse around a little. But I understand it can be overwhelming at times! and HEY we all start out as noobs right!
nah, np
I'm trying to get to the latest version from the old RC1v2.
I believe i need to install 7.1.1.1 stable, as it has all the kernel etc, then jump to the latest nightly from there?
I installed 7.1.1.1 stable, got the dreaded boot loop, removed battery, rebooted, then installed 111121 hopefully thats right, seems ok at the moment.
picked up the dreaded overnight abttery drain again, so trying out 111123 now
7.1 stable is fine
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[Q] Backing-up and flashing

Hey, guys (and girls? )! Just got a new DEFY+ couple of days back and I'd like to get the most out of it. It's already working all smooth and sexy, but I'm sure it can do better. So I need some assistance
Phone info:
DEFY+ (MB526)
Android 2.3.4
System 45.0.74.MB526.Retail.en.DE
Kernel 2.6.32.9-gbad50c3
Build 4.5.1-134_DFP-74
I've rooted it yesterday and I'm pretty sure it was successful, since the phone is working and I've got SuperUser on it since then (I've followed the root part of the all-in-one super DEFY guide thread)
About backing up, I would like to be able to go back to my old backup at any time. Is that even possible? I know I probably never will go back to it, but I like to play things safe. If it is possible, could you teach me how or point me to some nice guide/thread on that?
When it comes to flashing, I'd like to try CM, WAJKIUI and MS2G. Any more ROMs that are a must try? Now, I didn't quite understand... Are there different versions for defy and defy+? Or...which ROMs are compatible with defy+? I've read somewhere that all defy ROMs can't use defy+'s battery properly, so that's what concerns me. Nandload? How to?
I'm sorry if these are stupid questions, I've tried finding out everything from the guides, but I just didn't find enough information... I do have RSD (v5.0.0, is it okay?) and the drivers, all set up. I'm not asking for anyone to write an essay for me, it will be perfectly fine if you just point me to some (really really) good guides. I'll be grateful for any and every answer!
*EDIT #1* Well, I've tried to learn some more... Let's go step by step. Should I install 2ndInit app or some other custom recovery app?
I can beg if need be
"*EDIT #1* Well, I've tried to learn some more... Let's go step by step. Should I install 2ndInit app or some other custom recovery app?"
Hi,
as I've seen the guides, yes.
I've defy, so I didn't try it, but heard from many people with defy+ with CM or MIUI.
BUT before it I suggest to you:
- get a stock sbf of your rom. It is necessary if you want get back the original factory state. hope here you find it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537
- install titanium backup from market (I know this, but you can install any similar app) and make a full backup (all user and system app). It saves all data, installed apps with settings ...
- make backup of your contacts and sms-s with stock app (it is possible I think)
- make backup of your sd content
After that you can install 2ndinitdefy. Follow the instructions in the program. I suggest 1.4.2 version. If it doesn't work go to 2.0. The 2.0 has instructions not on the main screen but in its menu.
After the 2 reboot (regarding 2ndinit install) you can do a nandroid backup with clockworkmod recovery.
Reboot, push vol down at blue led (after start with 8-10 sec). You are at bootloader. Use vol up/down to navigate and power to enter a menu. Go to recovery-> custom recovery->backup and recovery->backup all. It takes some time. You can save this nandroid to computer (just for safety ) You find it in sd/clockworkmod/backup.
Now you have backups. Go ahead, install the custom rom of your choice.
I recommend WajkIUI. You find the link in my signature and you find installing instructions in Wajk's first post. And of course there are defy+ users in that thread as I remember, you can ask question there.
ps: everything is your responsibility
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Good luck bro/sis !!!
Thank you for such a long reply!
I have installed 2ndInit, using the v2.0 installer, but I chose the stable version of the 2nd init itself, instead of the latest one. That stable one said it was meant for CM and MIUI, so I'm guessing I'll be alright with WajkIUI as well!
I'll follow the steps you gave me for making a complete backup of everything on my phone and then I'll start looking for a ROM that's fully mb526 compatible (I need >10 posts to be able to post in the development section :/ )
P.S. I'm a bro
I see. This 10 post rule a bit annoying. But as I know you can send private message to anyone. In the Wajkiui thread there are some people with 526.
I've got my 10 posts Thank you once more and I'm sure we'll be talking again soon!
I'm having a hard time finding a full SBF of my stock ROM...
It's 4.5.1-134_DFP-74 (Android 2.3.4)
I don't really understand the codes in that name, so can someone please tell me if I could flash some close to this sbf if I ever need to? I've found some with just that value after "...DFP-" different. Would they be okay?
Please let me know! I wanna load up something different, but don't want to do so until I have a full sbf as well, just in case of emergency
niksy+ said:
I'm having a hard time finding a full SBF of my stock ROM...
It's 4.5.1-134_DFP-74 (Android 2.3.4)
I don't really understand the codes in that name, so can someone please tell me if I could flash some close to this sbf if I ever need to? I've found some with just that value after "...DFP-" different. Would they be okay?
Please let me know! I wanna load up something different, but don't want to do so until I have a full sbf as well, just in case of emergency
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You should ask Walter79. I found similar sbf as yours in his thread /forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537/ at "my roms" link:
www.4shared.com/folder/YpyTOtp4/Defy-roms.html
Bests
Mate, thanks for the info, but I've already found and flashed a full .sbf The topic said it was 2.3.4, while it turned out to be 2.3.5, but I don't mind, got my phone working again after a failed flashing of cm7.2..!
Cheers

[Q] URGENT!!! How do I recover Defy+ after failed 2ndinit install

Hi all,
I have thus far killed two Defy+ mobiles ($600 worth) following poor instructions on this site. I am now stuck using a 7" tablet as a phone!!!
My latest effort failed after installing 2ndinit 2.0 Stable, rebooting after turning USB Debugging off. Now it boot loops with the red Moto label. I have since read that one should never use 2.0 for Defy+ as it is known to have issues, even though the thread I took these instructions and the link from was referring specifically to a Defy+!!!
The last one I had did the same thing, only I thought it was because of the fact I chose to use the Latest rather than the Stable install of 2ndinit. I then proceeded to attempt to flash an SBF via the bootloader but now it is not booting at all, no logos, cant get to bootloader, nothing.
So, my question is, where can I get the latest Telstra Australia DEFY PLUS SBF from (please link me??) or one that I can flash over it that will work? Does anyone have any tips on how to recover this safely without sending it completely blank?
Also, does anyone have advice on how to recover the blank one?? Or is it useless?
Then, I would like to know, after I successfully recover the Defy+, HOW TO SAFELY 2ndinit it!!! I cannot afford to destroy another handset.
Thank you all for your prompt assistance! =)
which bootmenu did u install?and did u try flashing the SBF file via rsd lite?
fr0dzy said:
I have since read that one should never use 2.0 for Defy+ as it is known to have issues
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I have run 2ndinit 2.0 on my Defy+ with no problem at all. I installed the latest bootmenu (1.0.7). Do you get the blue LED after powering the phone on?
You could try wiping data and cache in standard recovery. You should still be able to get in to that by holding vol- when you press and release the power button (press vol- and vol+ simultaneously when the android with the "!" in a red triangle appears). Your phone should still be rooted and have 2ndinit in place after a wipe. (Presumably you had rooted the phone? 2ndinit won't work otherwise.)
If that doesn't work then you may need to re-flash the SBF. If you know the build number of the ROM on your you can have a look on this thread to see if there is an SBF for it available online.
As a last resort, you could ask Motorola to fix it. If it's rooted then you've voided the warranty but if all it needs is a ROM flashing then they shouldn't charge you very much to do that. Better spend a few tens of dollars to fix the phone than write it off at a cost of several hundred dollars, surely?
recall while doing the install
did u root first??? did u get superuser permission prompt on downloading 1.0.7?did ur led flash GREEN???ensure that these are all yes
Dont worry brother. I had the same issue. I too got stuck in bootloop i.e at the M !
All I did was went in the stock bootloader ( POWER + VOL UP ) , connected it to my laptop. Downloaded RSDLite and the compatible sbf for my device ( Indian Version ) and then flashed it and it worked like charm
I would suggest you to use WiFi while using 2ndInit.
fr0dzy said:
Hi all,
I have thus far killed two Defy+ mobiles ($600 worth) following poor instructions on this site. I am now stuck using a 7" tablet as a phone!!!
My latest effort failed after installing 2ndinit 2.0 Stable, rebooting after turning USB Debugging off. Now it boot loops with the red Moto label. I have since read that one should never use 2.0 for Defy+ as it is known to have issues, even though the thread I took these instructions and the link from was referring specifically to a Defy+!!!
The last one I had did the same thing, only I thought it was because of the fact I chose to use the Latest rather than the Stable install of 2ndinit. I then proceeded to attempt to flash an SBF via the bootloader but now it is not booting at all, no logos, cant get to bootloader, nothing.
So, my question is, where can I get the latest Telstra Australia DEFY PLUS SBF from (please link me??) or one that I can flash over it that will work? Does anyone have any tips on how to recover this safely without sending it completely blank?
Also, does anyone have advice on how to recover the blank one?? Or is it useless?
Then, I would like to know, after I successfully recover the Defy+, HOW TO SAFELY 2ndinit it!!! I cannot afford to destroy another handset.
Thank you all for your prompt assistance! =)
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There's always this quote: "Do it at your own risk"..
Never say it's the forumers instructions wrong or incorrect.
Read and double confirmed before taking the plunge modifying any system files.
Besides.. The death of your Defy is not really dead yet. I think your Defy boot just fine in the first place after installing 2nd-init. The only thing you need to do is press -Vol (when the blue light blink in the booting sequence) to enter into bootmenu and select boot normal as default. Because if this is your first installing 2nd-init, it might get you boot 2ndinit which was the cause of your bootlooping. Now you had flashed another sbf.. It's good to flash just Defy+ sbf and start again the process you failed in the attempt to get 2nd-init.
We learned from the mistake and master it over relentless practicing..
farsight73 said:
There's always this quote: "Do it at your own risk"..
Never say it's the forumers instructions wrong or incorrect.
Read and double confirmed before taking the plunge modifying any system files.
Besides.. The death of your Defy is not really dead yet. I think your Defy boot just fine in the first place after installing 2nd-init. The only thing you need to do is press -Vol (when the blue light blink in the booting sequence) to enter into bootmenu and select boot normal as default. Because if this is your first installing 2nd-init, it might get you boot 2ndinit which was the cause of your bootlooping. Now you had flashed another sbf.. It's good to flash just Defy+ sbf and start again the process you failed in the attempt to get 2nd-init.
We learned from the mistake and master it over relentless practicing..
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+1 for your comment
Same thing happened to me as the OP.
Installed 2ndinit onto my Defy+, said installed and asked to switch off USB debugging and then reboot. I did that and am now in a boot loop. I didn't see the blue led when the phone rebooted, just straight to loop (red M logo, black screen, repeat).
I have tried taking the battery in and out (didn't help), celared cache and also factory wipe/reset (didn't work either). I can get the factory recovery and bootloader, but no android or 2ndinit recovery.
I assume I have to reflash with a full sbf. My question is this -
Does anyone have the stock Defy+ Telstra AU sbf for 2.3.4 (4.5.1-134 DPF-891) or more recent updates?
If not what is closest? I have found a few here but some of the 2.3.4 ones (bl5??) have no links (megaupload etc been pulled) or no root. This one looked promising (here) but no link. Would this one (here) be good?
Can I then apply OTA update to get back to AU firmware if I need? I would use MS2Ginger or CM7 if/when I get the phone working again, but return to stock is still useful.
Thanks for your help,
Nova
i must say u need to flash proper sbf to recover...
just wanna share my experience...
after installing SndndInit v2.0 ( with stock 2.3.6_134 DFP1321 ), i installed stable version of recovery & rebooted my phone...all of this with usb debugging "ON"...n got no errors! maybe there is no need to keep debugging off...
Sent from my MB526 using XDA App
OK, I flashed full sbf and got the phone working again (uses the sbf from the second link in my previous post). Then rooted and install 2ndinit again.
Boot loop again, exactly the same as the first time.
Install goes well, says it is installed, green led is on, however when I reboot, boot loop. There is no recovery screen or anything (except stock).
Is there some more detailed install instructions other than in the 2dninit thread? I have been transferring to sd card root, click apk to run 2ndinit, select 1.0.7 and it says everything worked. Just doesn't when I reboot.
Cheers,
Nova
No-one has any suggestions?
Do I need to put 2ndinit.apk in phone and not sd card?
I am going to try an older version and see if that works.
Cheers,
Nova
i hope you have rooted your phone properly else use SuperOneClick from here
you can download different versions of SndInitDefy.apk form here
go to Setings -> Applications -> Manage Application
look for SndInitDefy & clear its data (your previous install)
put the downloaded apk in SD card & run it (fresh install)
MY NOTE--keep usb debugging ON all the time...
run defy2ndInit - install 2ndInit Recovery - select latest version...
let it download...1st RED led lights then Green...wait for 2 minutes...reboot your phone...
when phone reboots BLUE led flashes for just 3-4 seconds...press VOL DOWN button when its flashing...
i hope this helps..im not a pro but i did follow exact same steps just 2 days back..
PS i did used v2.0 of SndInitDefy.apk...no problems yet..made backup twice & recovered too..
Well I tried v1.7 and that worked. I then updated to version 2.0 and that worked as well so i don't know what was going wrong. The only thing that happened different was the red led came on while 2ndinit 1.7 was loading (this had not happened before), so I would guess that 2.0 wasn't properly installing even though it said that it was installed.
Thanks for all your help.
Cheers,
Nova
hit thanks if I've helped
right now I'm having ICS on my phone thanks to quarx
Sent from my MB526 using XDA
apurvdate said:
hit thanks if I've helped
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Did that. And thanks again for your help.
Cheers,
Nova
Had exactly same problem
I did the same experience as you after locking up after 2ndInit.
I used your recovery sbf as suggested and the phone works again. Thanks!
Were you able to find a Telstra Defy sbf and were you able to get 2ndInit to work and upgrade to CM9 & ICS?
Cheers,
apurvdate said:
i hope you have rooted your phone properly else use SuperOneClick from here
you can download different versions of SndInitDefy.apk form here
go to Setings -> Applications -> Manage Application
look for SndInitDefy & clear its data (your previous install)
put the downloaded apk in SD card & run it (fresh install)
MY NOTE--keep usb debugging ON all the time...
run defy2ndInit - install 2ndInit Recovery - select latest version...
let it download...1st RED led lights then Green...wait for 2 minutes...reboot your phone...
when phone reboots BLUE led flashes for just 3-4 seconds...press VOL DOWN button when its flashing...
i hope this helps..im not a pro but i did follow exact same steps just 2 days back..
PS i did used v2.0 of SndInitDefy.apk...no problems yet..made backup twice & recovered too..
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Click to collapse
I have rooted phone and tried both the 1.7 and 2.3 apps for 2ndInit Recovery and still on stock ROM but i never get the blue led flashing on boot up.
Any ideas?
Defy Plus indian firmware
nidhish91 said:
Dont worry brother. I had the same issue. I too got stuck in bootloop i.e at the M !
All I did was went in the stock bootloader ( POWER + VOL UP ) , connected it to my laptop. Downloaded RSDLite and the compatible sbf for my device ( Indian Version ) and then flashed it and it worked like charm
I would suggest you to use WiFi while using 2ndInit.
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Can u please provide me the indian firmware link
Thanks
Zafar
Black camera!
Black camera!
Hey!
Somebody help me!!
Defy +: I put the original ruins of the ruins Rotolo, then the Boot Menu in Hungarian translation, and are followed by the error in the "Blade" my brain that I installed along with the 720p and panorama for Gingerbread Motorola
and since then my camera does not work, just great blackness!
Somebody help me!
green lenses!
---------- Post added at 06:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:23 PM ----------
Black camera!
Hey!
Somebody help me!!
Defy +: I put the original ruins of the ruins Rotolo, then the Boot Menu in Hungarian translation, and are followed by the error in the "Blade" my brain that I installed along with the 720p and panorama for Gingerbread Motorola
and since then my camera does not work, just great blackness!
Somebody help me!
green lenses!

{Defy+} Updating to C9 ICS, how do I backup the orignal OS?

Hi
I am getting ready to update to ICS.
But I am worried it will go wrong, or I wont like the ICS or it may have bugs that i cant deal with.
How would i backup the original OS.
Is there one out there which i can just reinstall the original Motorola Android OS that it came with?
Which is the best ICS to go for? Quarx or Epsylon3
According to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432100
Epsylon3 has the 2 bugs of
-In Epsilon's build microphone isn't recognized by apps
-In Epsilon's build theres a multitouch bug
where as Quarx does not...
What guide should i follow to install?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432100
or
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Motorola_Defy:_Full_Update_Guide
Thanks
Root your Defy+.
Install Clockwork recovery.
Make a backup in recovery, flash 05/03 GB build by quarx,then gb kernel file, and that's it.
mihovil13 said:
Root your Defy+.
Install Clockwork recovery.
Make a backup in recovery, flash 05/03 GB build by quarx,then gb kernel file, and that's it.
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THanks
and i follow this guide right?
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Mo...alling_bootmenu_.26_the_ClockworkMod_Recovery
you should install it with the multi boot way
it's much better you will get bot first and ics os
defyassin said:
you should install it with the multi boot way
it's much better you will get bot first and ics os
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ok so i installted bootmenu 0.6.1
i hope that was the right one.
Its really confusing, last time i used bootloader was a year or more ago
and it was simple
now its strange
every time i started the phone it went into bootloader..
so i set the default to normal instead of bootloader
now there are these setting
Boot (I guess thats seletct which os u want to boot into)
System -
UnRooting (9 guess thats to unroot ur device....
Uninstall boot menu (does wat it says but i wonder if u uninstall it, would it go bak to the original one?)
Recovery -
Custom Recovery (... what is this?
Stock Recovery (.... this is?
Tools -
ADB Daemon ????
USB Mass Storage ????
where does one back up? and where is install update.zip from SD?
By clicking Custom Recovery I see that i can get to the old style update.zip from sd menu
Stock Recovery = Crash screen (triangle with ! and lil green android)
but how would i select which boot to install it on Normal or 2nd?
Questions go in the Q&A section.
Thread moved
In custom recovery there should be a "backup and restore" option. Use that to make a backup.
Cheers,
Nova
Tutorial for installing cm9 on defy,starting from stock firmware
xiaokai said:
Hi
I am getting ready to update to ICS.
But I am worried it will go wrong, or I wont like the ICS or it may have bugs that i cant deal with.
How would i backup the original OS.
Is there one out there which i can just reinstall the original Motorola Android OS that it came with?
Which is the best ICS to go for? Quarx or Epsylon3
According to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432100
Epsylon3 has the 2 bugs of
-In Epsilon's build microphone isn't recognized by apps
-In Epsilon's build theres a multitouch bug
where as Quarx does not...
What guide should i follow to install?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432100
or
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Motorola_Defy:_Full_Update_Guide
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi,just saw your post.I have a defy.I am writing this based on my experiences with defy.There are a few changes to be made for defy plus,which i have mentioned at the appropriate parts.This guide should be useful for both defy and defy+ owners.I personally use quarx build.Don't know about the epsylon build,but i see people complaining about some bugs..Just my opinion.Anyway if you are going to go with quarx(assuming you have defy),i recommend u stay away from build of 8th march with the hardware acceleration.Frankly itz too buggy for everyday use.Too many force closes and restarts.Stick with the 5th march build.Which is great(nearly as good as a stable rom for both defy and defy +)
Find out which SBF your Motorola originally came with.Sbfs are the files with.sbf extension which is basically your stock(original) firmware.SBF files are only for original firmwares.No cm9 or cm7 files come with .sbf extension.Defy in different regions have different sbfs.You should find your appropriate SBF in Xda forums.If you need that and can't find it reply back.I will help you.Personally your Original Sbf is your starting point.In case you have a warranty claim and you are running in CM9,then flash your defy with the above mentioned sbf with RSD lite.I will go into flashing with rsd lite later.Voila!!Phone is good as new.No hint of ever running Cm9 or warranty voiding stuff.Personally i would ask you to keep this someplace safe.You can sleep peacefully!
Installing CM9 involves
1.Rooting your phone
2.Taking A titanium Backup(optional)
3.Installing 2ndinit
4.Rebooting into Clockwork Recovery
5.Taking a nandroid backup(optional but highly recommended)
6.Flashing CM9 files
7.Restart!
Root your Phone.
Now before proceeding let me remind you this will void your warranty.Of course you can flash your original sbf to revert back.But there is always a small risk(Personally i don't think there is,but i believe everyone should be aware of their options).
Root with superone click root.This is a windows app.Not sure about linux or mac.Search XDA for the latest.i think v2.2 is the latest.
The actual process of rooting.(whatever u do,have at least 70% battery)
Enable USB debugging in your phone.It should be in Settings->Applications->Development and enable “USB Debugging“.Then connect your phone via usb cable to your pc.Select Charging Only option(not the memory card access) in the usb connection mode notification that comes in your phone up when you plug in the usb.Make sure it is not mounted in mass storage mode(memory card access).For that check in My computer if your sd card is visible.And check your connected usb devices in the safely remove button at the right side of windows taskbar.That should cover it.Do not root with sd card mounted(memory card access).
Open the superoneclick.exe file in your pc(You should have downloaded this by now from http://shortfuse.org/ or from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682).if you are not using vista or 7 go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682.You will find information you need if you use mac,xp or linux.I rooted this on a windows 7 pc which was fine.Anyway after opeining the application click on root under the Universal tab.
For any confusion go to http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/root-android-phone-superoneclick-2/.they have screenshots. After rooting which will take like a min or less,(you might be asked to install busybox and to run a test.click yes for both)An app called superuser will be installed.This basically confirms you have superuser access.And the app basically monitors other apps that you have given superuser privileges.There is no way you can go wrong with superoneclick because itz that easy!!
Why Root?
Because Motorola doesn't want us to tinker with the original firmware files.Basically they do not want the additional burden of software troubleshooting in case of a warranty claim if the user messes up his phone.
But as a user it is sad.Basically think like this.You bought a new PC.You are free to install XP,7,vista ,Linux or anything(as long as you pay for it!)right??Well in case of phones you can't.For informed buyers,this is nuts.For me,if i use a device i want to stretch its capability.I don't want to be the idiot that uses a phone just for calling or for some apps.Cyanogen Mod is my place to go for my requirments.
Basically Rooting unlocks the superuser capabilities of the phones firmware.Superuser access means ability to tinker with your rom(Original SBF) which you were previously denied.In this case your original SBF will be modified to give you admin privileges.In CM7(gingerbread version ) and CM9(ICS version) you already have that capability in the firmware.
Anyway you have access to your rom now.With this (if you want!)you can use an app called SetVsel to overclock or undervolting your phone cpu.Be careful when you do that.Read about VSel values before you tinker.that is if you are interested in overclocking or undervolting on stock firmware.Otherwise we move on to titanium backup.
Next,if you want to have all your apps when you jump into CM9,take a Titanium Backup.Titanium Backup is an app in the Market(Play store).It requires root privileges.It keeps a backup of all apps you installed.You can do a lot of stuff with it other than just backup.But backup and restore is the core functionality of the app.Superuser might ask you to give it superuser access.Click yes.Anyway if you have money Go for Titanium Backup Pro.Best App money can buy.Totally worth every cent.Buy it.Run the batch restore option(This option is a little inside the menu options.You will find it.If not,tell me)Backup all user apps.leave out the system data.I haven't done otherwise,but somehow i am guesing motorola system settings and cm9 settings wont play nice.If you don't want to pay for titanium backup,use the free version (which does not have the batch backup option).Alternatively if you don't want anything to do with backup and just want a list of apps you have installed currently,then there is an option in titanium backup to export the list of installed apps as a text file.Which you can install manually later.Your call.Backup is done on your sd card.You will need free space.Somewhere around 300 mb or more.Actually keep at least 1 gb free.You will need it later on.
Now our next step is to install 2ndinit(i will explain what it is).But before that,you have to download a couple of things.
1.CM9 build(Quarx or epsylon,Your preference here)
2.Kernel file
3.Google Apps
Now if you have a defy,you will need the kernel file.If you have defy plus,skip over this part.You can find kernel files in the beginning of this post.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20097916&postcount=3 This is probably a very useful post..thanks to nogoodusername.Any doubts on what to download this should clear it up.If you still have any doubts tell me.
Now download your required cm9 build from here.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432100
if you have a defy,download the cm7 kernel,if you have a defy running on a defy+ build(gingerbread)[Note:i am not talking about defy+ phone owners] download cm9 kernel.Both are available here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20097916&postcount=3
Finally to Google Apps.Google had a run in with cyanogen community.Android as google sends out as opensource does not have gmail,gtalk and all google apps you usually find in a new phone.It means these apps are not opensource and you can't package it in any firmware without google's permission.So what the devs here in xda did is to provide cyanogenmod firmware files and google apps as seperate files.the google apps are what u find as gapps.zip or gapps-ics-20120304-signed.zip in forums.Download the file from here http://goo-inside.me/gapps/gapps-ics-20120317-signed.zip Nearly 50 mb.
Now place all three files inside your sd card as such.Yes they are in zip files.Dont bother.Leave them as they are in zip formats.
Defy plus owners.Don't bother about kernel file.
Defy owners with defy and defy+ builds,place ur respective kernels in the sd card.
Now disconnect the usb if you haven't done so.
Now we move onto 2ndinit.
2ndinit is an app that requires superuser access privileges.This is one of the reasons why we root.Why it requires is this.Your defy Bootloader is locked.You can't touch it.But this isn't a bad thing.This is the reason why it is mightily difficult to brick your defy(bricking basically means screwing up your phone so much it wont start and essentially becomes nothing more than a paperweight,hence is as good as a brick)
What 2ndinit does is that it loads up right after the bootloader loads.And presents with you a new menu system(actually The Clockwork Recovery) which basically is your way to boot and install new roms such as cm7 and cm9.So if you screw up,since your bootloader is intact,if you have the original sbf(Original motorola firmware)you can simply use rsd lite to flash back to original condition.
How to install 2ndinit
The app was in the market.Not anymore.GO here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032212. Download it.and place the apk file in your phone.For installing,make sure you have a file manager installed(such as es file manager or astro).Make sure you have enabled the installation of non market apps by Going to Settings > Applications 2) Check the box next to Unknown sources.Now with the file manager installed,browse to where you placed that 2ndinit apk file and install.Now open the app.It will ask you to install 2ndinit recovery.Chose the stable version stable with Cyanogen Builds(0.6.1).I have had no problems with that.Now it will start to download.Keep your wifi on or your data connection on.After that it will download.After download,Superuser will ask for access twice.Choose Yes for both.After installation,if everything goes well,u will have led light will be green.It will stay green till u reboot.This is fine and shows that upto now you are on right track.Before rebooting,disable usb debugging in Settings->Applications->Development and disable “USB Debugging“.Shut Down ur phone
Now start your phone.You should boot directly into Android Bootmenu.Here To move up and down the options,use volume up and volume down buttons.TO make a selection,press the power button(Don't press the power like u do it for shutdown.A small press will do).
Go to Backup and restore.Choose Backup.A Nandroid Backup will be created.Go back to root menu.The nandroid backup will be in a folder in your sd card.
Go to recovery.In recovery choose custom recovery.
If you are wondering what just happened,I will explain.As usual motorola bootloader loaded up as always,but this time,due to 2ndinit,we have a boot menu which kicks in right after the bootloader.Custom recovery is clockwork mod recovery which is the place where u do all ur installation of new roms and stuff.Boot option means you have option to boot into stock or cm9 firmware.You can tinker with this later.
On the other hand Nandroid Backup is something of a backup of your entire Rom and everything else.Just remember it is something you should fall back to in case you screw up.On the other hand Flashing original sbf is like the last option.If you flash Original Sbf,Then you have to go through the rooting thing and 2ndinit from scratch.A Nandroid Backup will save u from all that.It will restore ur rom just before u took backup.As good as new.Also Note Nandroid Backup is a lot different from titanium backup.titanium Backup is just user apps(and system settings if u choose it).Nandroid backup is a backup of your rom and therfore much more comprehensive.
Now back to the practical stuff.
When u choose custom recovery ,u enter Clockwork mod recovery.Choose to factory rest/wipe data option.Select Yes.After this.Select Wipe Cache Partition.Select Yes.
Now choose Install Zip from Sd card.
First choose your CM9 file.CONFIRM IT.
Next choose your Kernel file(if applicable).Confirm it.
Finally choose your google apps file.Confirm it.
All installations above are through the option "install zip from sd card".
Go to tools and delete dalvik cache.Dalvik Cache is a cache mechanism for your programs u previously installed.No need to go into the explanation here.
Thats it!!!!!!!!!!
Reboot.First time boot should take time.Time as in 2-3 min.Max 5min.
If you have screwed up,Your phone will not boot into ics and will stay at Motorola red logne way of screwing up is if you have flashed a defy+ build with a defy kernel.There are number of ways you could mess this up.Just follow this guide carefully.
Now if you screw up,you can boot into custom recovery and restore nandroid backup.For booting into custom recovery, shut down first.Then keeping the ‘Volume down’ key held, pressing the ‘Power’ key and then releasing the ‘Volume down’ key once you see the bootmenu screen,you will reach recovery.From there on,it is as i explained earlier.
Personally to tell u the truth,i have never restored a nandroid backup..Other forum members might help you if u have serious doubts.
Now if you are really really screwed,Flash your original sbf.
To do this first install motorola drivers
If you are using 32 bit version of windows
http://www.addictivetips.com/?attachment_id=44719
If you are using 64 bit
http://www.addictivetips.com/?attachment_id=44740
Next,Download RSD lite from here.This is a windows app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348587.
Install and open in xp sp2 compatible mode.As your defy is bricked,the only thing u can do is to press volume up and press power button.This should bring it to bootloader mode.This is a black screen which says "bootloader mode" in the top and "ok to program" in the middle.
Connect your phone via usb.It should install some usb drivers.Browse to the sbf file you downloaded(the one i told in the beginning of this post.If the sbf file is in a zip,extract it.).And click Start.It will take about 5 min.After that your phone should reboot(that too will take time,fortunately look into the live logsheet in rsd lite.It should show a percentage completion).
Finally Your phone should be back as you bought it from the store.
A few words to everyone.What i wrote here is a bit of a layman's usage.I hope everyone who reads this guide gets an idea of what rooting and recovery and flashing is.I haven't gone into fixed sbfs,adb and the lot because the idea of this tutorial is to help others install cm9 and a backup plan if all hell breaks loose.Nothing more.if there are incorrect information in this i would be glad to hear and rectify.
please help
dannyjk said:
Hi,just saw your post.I have a defy.I am writing this based on my experiences with defy.There are a few changes to be made for defy plus,which i have mentioned at the appropriate parts.This guide should be useful for both defy and defy+ owners.I personally use quarx build.Don't know about the epsylon build,but i see people complaining about some bugs..Just my opinion.Anyway if you are going to go with quarx(assuming you have defy),i recommend u stay away from build of 8th march with the hardware acceleration.Frankly itz too buggy for everyday use.Too many force closes and restarts.Stick with the 5th march build.Which is great(nearly as good as a stable rom for both defy and defy +)
Find out which SBF your Motorola originally came with.Sbfs are the files with.sbf extension which is basically your stock(original) firmware.SBF files are only for original firmwares.No cm9 or cm7 files come with .sbf extension.Defy in different regions have different sbfs.You should find your appropriate SBF in Xda forums.If you need that and can't find it reply back.I will help you.Personally your Original Sbf is your starting point.In case you have a warranty claim and you are running in CM9,then flash your defy with the above mentioned sbf with RSD lite.I will go into flashing with rsd lite later.Voila!!Phone is good as new.No hint of ever running Cm9 or warranty voiding stuff.Personally i would ask you to keep this someplace safe.You can sleep peacefully!
Installing CM9 involves
1.Rooting your phone
2.Taking A titanium Backup(optional)
3.Installing 2ndinit
4.Rebooting into Clockwork Recovery
5.Taking a nandroid backup(optional but highly recommended)
6.Flashing CM9 files
7.Restart!
Root your Phone.
Now before proceeding let me remind you this will void your warranty.Of course you can flash your original sbf to revert back.But there is always a small risk(Personally i don't think there is,but i believe everyone should be aware of their options).
Root with superone click root.This is a windows app.Not sure about linux or mac.Search XDA for the latest.i think v2.2 is the latest.
The actual process of rooting.(whatever u do,have at least 70% battery)
Enable USB debugging in your phone.It should be in Settings->Applications->Development and enable “USB Debugging“.Then connect your phone via usb cable to your pc.Select Charging Only option(not the memory card access) in the usb connection mode notification that comes in your phone up when you plug in the usb.Make sure it is not mounted in mass storage mode(memory card access).For that check in My computer if your sd card is visible.And check your connected usb devices in the safely remove button at the right side of windows taskbar.That should cover it.Do not root with sd card mounted(memory card access).
Open the superoneclick.exe file in your pc(You should have downloaded this by now from http://shortfuse.org/ or from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682).if you are not using vista or 7 go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682.You will find information you need if you use mac,xp or linux.I rooted this on a windows 7 pc which was fine.Anyway after opeining the application click on root under the Universal tab.
For any confusion go to http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/root-android-phone-superoneclick-2/.they have screenshots. After rooting which will take like a min or less,(you might be asked to install busybox and to run a test.click yes for both)An app called superuser will be installed.This basically confirms you have superuser access.And the app basically monitors other apps that you have given superuser privileges.There is no way you can go wrong with superoneclick because itz that easy!!
Why Root?
Because Motorola doesn't want us to tinker with the original firmware files.Basically they do not want the additional burden of software troubleshooting in case of a warranty claim if the user messes up his phone.
But as a user it is sad.Basically think like this.You bought a new PC.You are free to install XP,7,vista ,Linux or anything(as long as you pay for it!)right??Well in case of phones you can't.For informed buyers,this is nuts.For me,if i use a device i want to stretch its capability.I don't want to be the idiot that uses a phone just for calling or for some apps.Cyanogen Mod is my place to go for my requirments.
Basically Rooting unlocks the superuser capabilities of the phones firmware.Superuser access means ability to tinker with your rom(Original SBF) which you were previously denied.In this case your original SBF will be modified to give you admin privileges.In CM7(gingerbread version ) and CM9(ICS version) you already have that capability in the firmware.
Anyway you have access to your rom now.With this (if you want!)you can use an app called SetVsel to overclock or undervolting your phone cpu.Be careful when you do that.Read about VSel values before you tinker.that is if you are interested in overclocking or undervolting on stock firmware.Otherwise we move on to titanium backup.
Next,if you want to have all your apps when you jump into CM9,take a Titanium Backup.Titanium Backup is an app in the Market(Play store).It requires root privileges.It keeps a backup of all apps you installed.You can do a lot of stuff with it other than just backup.But backup and restore is the core functionality of the app.Superuser might ask you to give it superuser access.Click yes.Anyway if you have money Go for Titanium Backup Pro.Best App money can buy.Totally worth every cent.Buy it.Run the batch restore option(This option is a little inside the menu options.You will find it.If not,tell me)Backup all user apps.leave out the system data.I haven't done otherwise,but somehow i am guesing motorola system settings and cm9 settings wont play nice.If you don't want to pay for titanium backup,use the free version (which does not have the batch backup option).Alternatively if you don't want anything to do with backup and just want a list of apps you have installed currently,then there is an option in titanium backup to export the list of installed apps as a text file.Which you can install manually later.Your call.Backup is done on your sd card.You will need free space.Somewhere around 300 mb or more.Actually keep at least 1 gb free.You will need it later on.
Now our next step is to install 2ndinit(i will explain what it is).But before that,you have to download a couple of things.
1.CM9 build(Quarx or epsylon,Your preference here)
2.Kernel file
3.Google Apps
Now if you have a defy,you will need the kernel file.If you have defy plus,skip over this part.You can find kernel files in the beginning of this post.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20097916&postcount=3 This is probably a very useful post..thanks to nogoodusername.Any doubts on what to download this should clear it up.If you still have any doubts tell me.
Now download your required cm9 build from here.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432100
if you have a defy,download the cm7 kernel,if you have a defy running on a defy+ build(gingerbread)[Note:i am not talking about defy+ phone owners] download cm9 kernel.Both are available here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20097916&postcount=3
Finally to Google Apps.Google had a run in with cyanogen community.Android as google sends out as opensource does not have gmail,gtalk and all google apps you usually find in a new phone.It means these apps are not opensource and you can't package it in any firmware without google's permission.So what the devs here in xda did is to provide cyanogenmod firmware files and google apps as seperate files.the google apps are what u find as gapps.zip or gapps-ics-20120304-signed.zip in forums.Download the file from here http://goo-inside.me/gapps/gapps-ics-20120317-signed.zip Nearly 50 mb.
Now place all three files inside your sd card as such.Yes they are in zip files.Dont bother.Leave them as they are in zip formats.
Defy plus owners.Don't bother about kernel file.
Defy owners with defy and defy+ builds,place ur respective kernels in the sd card.
Now disconnect the usb if you haven't done so.
Now we move onto 2ndinit.
2ndinit is an app that requires superuser access privileges.This is one of the reasons why we root.Why it requires is this.Your defy Bootloader is locked.You can't touch it.But this isn't a bad thing.This is the reason why it is mightily difficult to brick your defy(bricking basically means screwing up your phone so much it wont start and essentially becomes nothing more than a paperweight,hence is as good as a brick)
What 2ndinit does is that it loads up right after the bootloader loads.And presents with you a new menu system(actually The Clockwork Recovery) which basically is your way to boot and install new roms such as cm7 and cm9.So if you screw up,since your bootloader is intact,if you have the original sbf(Original motorola firmware)you can simply use rsd lite to flash back to original condition.
How to install 2ndinit
The app was in the market.Not anymore.GO here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032212. Download it.and place the apk file in your phone.For installing,make sure you have a file manager installed(such as es file manager or astro).Make sure you have enabled the installation of non market apps by Going to Settings > Applications 2) Check the box next to Unknown sources.Now with the file manager installed,browse to where you placed that 2ndinit apk file and install.Now open the app.It will ask you to install 2ndinit recovery.Chose the stable version stable with Cyanogen Builds(0.6.1).I have had no problems with that.Now it will start to download.Keep your wifi on or your data connection on.After that it will download.After download,Superuser will ask for access twice.Choose Yes for both.After installation,if everything goes well,u will have led light will be green.It will stay green till u reboot.This is fine and shows that upto now you are on right track.Before rebooting,disable usb debugging in Settings->Applications->Development and disable “USB Debugging“.Shut Down ur phone
Now start your phone.You should boot directly into Android Bootmenu.Here To move up and down the options,use volume up and volume down buttons.TO make a selection,press the power button(Don't press the power like u do it for shutdown.A small press will do).
Go to Backup and restore.Choose Backup.A Nandroid Backup will be created.Go back to root menu.The nandroid backup will be in a folder in your sd card.
Go to recovery.In recovery choose custom recovery.
If you are wondering what just happened,I will explain.As usual motorola bootloader loaded up as always,but this time,due to 2ndinit,we have a boot menu which kicks in right after the bootloader.Custom recovery is clockwork mod recovery which is the place where u do all ur installation of new roms and stuff.Boot option means you have option to boot into stock or cm9 firmware.You can tinker with this later.
On the other hand Nandroid Backup is something of a backup of your entire Rom and everything else.Just remember it is something you should fall back to in case you screw up.On the other hand Flashing original sbf is like the last option.If you flash Original Sbf,Then you have to go through the rooting thing and 2ndinit from scratch.A Nandroid Backup will save u from all that.It will restore ur rom just before u took backup.As good as new.Also Note Nandroid Backup is a lot different from titanium backup.titanium Backup is just user apps(and system settings if u choose it).Nandroid backup is a backup of your rom and therfore much more comprehensive.
Now back to the practical stuff.
When u choose custom recovery ,u enter Clockwork mod recovery.Choose to factory rest/wipe data option.Select Yes.After this.Select Wipe Cache Partition.Select Yes.
Now choose Install Zip from Sd card.
First choose your CM9 file.CONFIRM IT.
Next choose your Kernel file(if applicable).Confirm it.
Finally choose your google apps file.Confirm it.
All installations above are through the option "install zip from sd card".
Go to tools and delete dalvik cache.Dalvik Cache is a cache mechanism for your programs u previously installed.No need to go into the explanation here.
Thats it!!!!!!!!!!
Reboot.First time boot should take time.Time as in 2-3 min.Max 5min.
If you have screwed up,Your phone will not boot into ics and will stay at Motorola red logne way of screwing up is if you have flashed a defy+ build with a defy kernel.There are number of ways you could mess this up.Just follow this guide carefully.
Now if you screw up,you can boot into custom recovery and restore nandroid backup.For booting into custom recovery, shut down first.Then keeping the ‘Volume down’ key held, pressing the ‘Power’ key and then releasing the ‘Volume down’ key once you see the bootmenu screen,you will reach recovery.From there on,it is as i explained earlier.
Personally to tell u the truth,i have never restored a nandroid backup..Other forum members might help you if u have serious doubts.
Now if you are really really screwed,Flash your original sbf.
To do this first install motorola drivers
If you are using 32 bit version of windows
http://www.addictivetips.com/?attachment_id=44719
If you are using 64 bit
http://www.addictivetips.com/?attachment_id=44740
Next,Download RSD lite from here.This is a windows app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348587.
Install and open in xp sp2 compatible mode.As your defy is bricked,the only thing u can do is to press volume up and press power button.This should bring it to bootloader mode.This is a black screen which says "bootloader mode" in the top and "ok to program" in the middle.
Connect your phone via usb.It should install some usb drivers.Browse to the sbf file you downloaded(the one i told in the beginning of this post.If the sbf file is in a zip,extract it.).And click Start.It will take about 5 min.After that your phone should reboot(that too will take time,fortunately look into the live logsheet in rsd lite.It should show a percentage completion).
Finally Your phone should be back as you bought it from the store.
A few words to everyone.What i wrote here is a bit of a layman's usage.I hope everyone who reads this guide gets an idea of what rooting and recovery and flashing is.I haven't gone into fixed sbfs,adb and the lot because the idea of this tutorial is to help others install cm9 and a backup plan if all hell breaks loose.Nothing more.if there are incorrect information in this i would be glad to hear and rectify.
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where to find original sbf for my Motorola defy+
Build number 4.5.1-134_DFP-891
System Version 45.0.891.MB526.AsiaRetail.en.03
please help
shaabbeer said:
where to find original sbf for my Motorola defy+
Build number 4.5.1-134_DFP-891
System Version 45.0.891.MB526.AsiaRetail.en.03
please help
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That's easy! You can find it here or here
You have the same SBF my phone came with! However I upgraded to 4.5.1-134-DFP-1321 . If you want that you can get it here but with that you won't be able to downgrade and will have to use Defy+ builds for everything (CM7 or CM9).
pranks1989 said:
That's easy! You can find it here or here
You have the same SBF my phone came with! However I upgraded to 4.5.1-134-DFP-1321 . If you want that you can get it here but with that you won't be able to downgrade and will have to use Defy+ builds for everything (CM7 or CM9).
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Tried to find the sbf for Build number 4.5.1-134_DFP-891... which is not in any of the lists... the sbf u r sharing U3_4.5.1 is actually 4.5.1-134-DFP-1321 is this an original one or else... thanks for the quick reply... this is my first experience with andriod.. so am a bit worried, so that i shouldn't brick my phone... plz help... tried to upgrade to 4.5.1-134-DFP-1321 OTA but it failed... i am from srinagar and we don't have any service centers arround here... thats why i have to upgrade of my own... is it easy to do so...
shaabbeer said:
Tried to find the sbf for Build number 4.5.1-134_DFP-891... which is not in any of the lists... the sbf u r sharing U3_4.5.1 is actually 4.5.1-134-DFP-1321 is this an original one or else... thanks for the quick reply... this is my first experience with andriod.. so am a bit worried, so that i shouldn't brick my phone... plz help... tried to upgrade to 4.5.1-134-DFP-1321 OTA but it failed... i am from srinagar and we don't have any service centers arround here... thats why i have to upgrade of my own... is it easy to do so...
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The ota to 1321 in India its known to fail! Check the official Moto users forum, u can see many people including me there asking for it!What I shared was original sbf dfp1321. Anyways there are only original sbf since it needs to be signed by Moto! And due to locked bootloader it is almost impossible to brick defy! Just keep flashing the correct sbf..
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i tried to download the 1321 build from link u specified on previous post but getting a error message " Error (509)
This account's public links are generating too much traffic and have been temporarily disabled!"
any other link available?
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jackajay said:
i tried to download the 1321 build from link u specified on previous post but getting a error message " Error (509)
This account's public links are generating too much traffic and have been temporarily disabled!"
any other link available?
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@pranks1989
I have downloaded the sbf file without any error... Thanks for the same...
What to do now...
Flashing the sbf file with RSDLite???
am i right???
Please guide...
Does it work properly.. and update to GB 2.3.6???
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Actually I do not want to root my phone as yet.... so don't need ICS right now.... want to upgrade to Stable GB 2.3.6....
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@ jackajay
Try to download from Here
jackajay said:
i tried to download the 1321 build from link u specified on previous post but getting a error message " Error (509)
This account's public links are generating too much traffic and have been temporarily disabled!"
any other link available?
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No more dropbox traffic left it seems!!
shaabbeer said:
@pranks1989
I have downloaded the sbf file without any error... Thanks for the same...
What to do now...
Flashing the sbf file with RSDLite???
am i right???
Please guide...
Does it work properly.. and update to GB 2.3.6???
Yes you are doing it right however if you see any lags or booterrors(stuck in logo types) then do a data wipe from stock recovery... That's all.. Happy flashing
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Actually I do not want to root my phone as yet.... so don't need ICS right now.... want to upgrade to Stable GB 2.3.6....
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@ jackajay
Try to download from Here
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I am following this procedure.....
To Flash full SBFs,
here is the standard procedure:
Open RSD Lite:
1. Click on [ … ] Button and select your .SBF (Remember to rename to a short name and put it on root of your PC) and click Open.
2. Boot your phone into Bootloader Mode (How do I enter Bootloader Mode: With the Phone off press VOLUME UP, then while still pressed power up the phone. Keep the Vol key pressed until a black screen with some white letters appear. This is the Bootloader.).
3. Now connect your Defy to your PC
4. The START button on RSD Lite should be available now, click and wait.
xiaokai said:
Hi
I am getting ready to update to ICS.
But I am worried it will go wrong, or I wont like the ICS or it may have bugs that i cant deal with.
How would i backup the original OS.
Is there one out there which i can just reinstall the original Motorola Android OS that it came with?
Which is the best ICS to go for? Quarx or Epsylon3
According to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432100
Epsylon3 has the 2 bugs of
-In Epsilon's build microphone isn't recognized by apps
-In Epsilon's build theres a multitouch bug
where as Quarx does not...
What guide should i follow to install?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432100
or
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Motorola_Defy:_Full_Update_Guide
Thanks
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just check my channel .. it'll probably answer your questions )
Upgraded my defy+ to GB2.3.6 using sbf... but am not satisfied with the battery backup... we were told that backup will improve but it worsened than my older version ie GB 2.3.4.... Please suggest whether I should root my phone and upgrade to ICS for better battery backup or not...
shaabbeer said:
Upgraded my defy+ to GB2.3.6 using sbf... but am not satisfied with the battery backup... we were told that backup will improve but it worsened than my older version ie GB 2.3.4.... Please suggest whether I should root my phone and upgrade to ICS for better battery backup or not...
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Since cm9 is still in Dev better try out cm7 defy + build instead
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pranks1989 said:
Since cm9 is still in Dev better try out cm7 defy + build instead
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Thanks for reply... what if I try Dual-Booting Stock + Custom ROM CM9.. Is it OK...
If CM7 which one to choose
cm72-120226-NIGHTLY-Defy+.zip 26-Feb-2012 14:51 103455641
cm72-20120308-NIGHTLY-Defy+.zip 08-Mar-2012 09:58 103311060
cm72-20120314-NIGHTLY-Defy+.zip 14-Mar-2012 11:19 103216637
cm72-20120316-NIGHTLY-Defy+.zip 16-Mar-2012 14:30 103242958
cm72-20120321-NIGHTLY-Defy+.zip 21-Mar-2012 12:43 103243350
cm72-20120323-NIGHTLY-Defy+.zip 23-Mar-2012 15:31 106906764
cm72-20120325-NIGHTLY-Defy+(exp).zip 24-Mar-2012 19:06 106903938
cm72-20120329-NIGHTLY-Defy+.zip 29-Mar-2012 17:27 106904615
cm72-20120402-NIGHTLY-Defy+.zip 01-Apr-2012 17:33 106914426
cm72-20120403-NIGHTLY-Defy+.zip 03-Apr-2012 14:59 106922584

[Q] Bricked Moto Defy

HI there. First i want to excuse for my bad english.
So, right into the question. Week ago i tried to flash CM9 on my moto defy. I flashed it, it ran well, when suddenly, after 2-3 days the trebuchet luncher crashed. I reboot my phone and all i got is boot loop. So, i'm a noob , but i tried to fix the problem whit installing one of the SBF's for moto defy+ (didn't notice that, the sbf is for Defy+ not for Defy). Actually the rom ran great, but the camera don't work. So i have a NANDROID backup but the moto defy original recovery, doesn't flash it (it says: "E: failed to verify whole-file signature"). I can't instal clockworkmod, couse i can't root the rom. So, the question is: is there any chance to root my rom and instal clockworkmod or can i fix the original recovery error, so i can apply my backup and downgrade to 2.2 froyo.
The rom that i flashed is ->
4.5.1-134-DFP-231 - retail, vodafon, tmobile, O2, full Blur
I tried to flash other SBF's but they dont work, or can't root either.
I tried to root the rom with everyone possible root exploits posted in this forum... but they doesen't work. I noticed that, there are some SBF's wich are rootable, but the download links doesen't work.
So, what is the exit of this ****ty situation?
no way out
No way at all???
wait for a miracle.
meanwhile read this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542956
DFP-188, DFP-231, DFP-2311 BL7 Root
novaproject said:
HI there. First i want to excuse for my bad english.
So, right into the question. Week ago i tried to flash CM9 on my moto defy. I flashed it, it ran well, when suddenly, after 2-3 days the trebuchet luncher crashed. I reboot my phone and all i got is boot loop. So, i'm a noob , but i tried to fix the problem whit installing one of the SBF's for moto defy+ (didn't notice that, the sbf is for Defy+ not for Defy). Actually the rom ran great, but the camera don't work. So i have a NANDROID backup but the moto defy original recovery, doesn't flash it (it says: "E: failed to verify whole-file signature"). I can't instal clockworkmod, couse i can't root the rom. So, the question is: is there any chance to root my rom and instal clockworkmod or can i fix the original recovery error, so i can apply my backup and downgrade to 2.2 froyo.
The rom that i flashed is ->
4.5.1-134-DFP-231 - retail, vodafon, tmobile, O2, full Blur
I tried to flash other SBF's but they dont work, or can't root either.
I tried to root the rom with everyone possible root exploits posted in this forum... but they doesen't work. I noticed that, there are some SBF's wich are rootable, but the download links doesen't work.
So, what is the exit of this ****ty situation?
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Okay dude. First thing:
Calm down. If you already are then read on!
Since Defy and Defy+ are more than 90% similar in hardware flashing SBF should not be a problem until you don't want downgradability! So from the name of the SBF I guess its for 2.3.6(GB) So now no way can you downgrade to Froyo kernel or for that matter any ROM using Froyo kernel. Am not sure about your ROM but I use the Asia retail SBF (4.5.1-134-DFP-1321 - retail-asia full Blur multilanguage) and I have rooted it using latest superoneclick and modded, rooted and installed CWM recovery umpteen times! So, what you can do is:
1.) Find out version of Android(2.3.4 or 2.3.6) in your phone at present.
2.) Case a:If it is 2.3.4: You can get any kernel and downgradeability is
preserved. There should be no prob faced!
Case b: If you have 2.3.6: You should try the SBF I have since it is rootable.
3.) Now I presume your phone should be working fine with Android 2.3.6.
Let me know if it works and than we can proceed further..
You can also give a try with Walter's fixed SBF and Nandroid backup
PS: A Defy as I understand is almost impossible to Brick!!! Y? Since its bootloader is locked
HI there, thx for the help
Yes, the installed rom is 2.3.6. I want to change it, couse the battery drain too fast (one day and it's gone) and there's no camera.
I flashed the rom that you said me (4.5.1-134-DFP-1321 - retail-asia full Blur multilanguage), but it's not working.. Doesn't boot at all. After the rom is flashed, the phone reboot and nothing, black screen. Only the white LED light on the upper left corner is activated. I'm giving a try with Walter's fixed SBF now.
Walter's fixed SBF doesen't work too. Same blackscreen...
novaproject said:
Walter's fixed SBF doesen't work too. Same blackscreen...
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Oh! I think similar thing happened with me once when I installed CM9 kernel! This is what I did:
1.) Flash SBF. (Full)
2.) Boot to stock android recovery.
3.) Wipe data and wipe cache.
4.) Reboot.
Well since you already installed a full SBF of 2.3.6 you cannot downgrade! And from what I have seen till now from users experience(and mine) 2.3.6 gives much better battery life. So from now on whenever u use a nightly or ROM use the one for GB(Defy+) builds
This means, that i cannot change the rom anymore?
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This means, that i cannot change the rom anymore?
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You can change ROMs. But you can't go back to an old or downgraded ROM(like froyo). That means you will always have to use ROMs made for Defy+ (GB). There are many CM7 nightlies by Quarx for Defy+ and the latest one for me worked great.
However, should you want to go to Froyo again there is a workaround:
A chinese sbf of froyo was found to have an updated bootloader! So the workaround is:
1.) Flash the chinese SBF(Never use the flash as it will burn your flash)
2.) Root, install 2nd init and CWM.
3.) Now you can flash CM and ROMs for Defy(Froyo) since you got a froyo
kernel(And use your flash now )
This is something I gave a try and it worked for me. I am sorry don't remember which thread it was with this tutorial. May be you can give it a search...
Thanx again.
I tried the chineese sbf but it didn't work. Same black screen...
Is there any way to instal .zip rom (like CM7) with program like RSD lite?
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Thanx again.
I tried the chineese sbf but it didn't work. Same black screen...
Is there any way to instal .zip rom (like CM7) with program like RSD lite?
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Did you do a data wipe from stock recovery after installing the chinese SBF?
I dint quite get your second question! If you asked :
a.) Can zip be flashed using RSD lite.. No!! You cant. RSD lite understand only proper SBF files with correct checksum!
b.) Can zip be installed from stock recovery: No!! To instal a zip from stock you need the zip to be signed by motorola. That is why the whole concept of 2nd init comes up! It is a recovery menu which comes before the system boots up
It was the first question
Yes, i did the data wipe, and nothing... I think, no other SBF works except mine... I don't know what to do now.
novaproject said:
It was the first question
Yes, i did the data wipe, and nothing... I think, no other SBF works except mine... I don't know what to do now.
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Sorry dint see that! I am afraid i think the SBF you flashed has BL7 as someone in the thread mentioned earlier! just to be sure:
1.) Download this .
2.) Extract the sbf and check the cmg versions. Check the version for cmg39.
3.) If it is 7. I am afraid there is no way out yet!! For the time being you are stuck with that SBF!! You are unable to boot because the SBF I gave you and most others has BL6 !!
Sorry again as I dint thought of this possibility earlier! And don't worry much. For now reflash the SBF that is working for you and wait till a way to root it is found!!
And speaking of it I welcome myself to the group!!
Just got back my Defy+ from service center and after I switched it ON I saw the lockscreen interface was different! A quick check told me that it is the latest SBF they flashed. I kept my fingers crossed. Once back home I checked and found this phone is not rootable!!! Now I am stuck too!!
Wooow, they flashed you BL7??
OK, man, im gonna donate you one AK47!
novaproject said:
Wooow, they flashed you BL7??
OK, man, im gonna donate you one AK47!
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Oh that is so very nice of u!!!!
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