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[Q] Milestone 2 in bootloop

Hey all there,
i just bought for some cheap money a milestone 2 on the bay with bootloop problems.
it startsup like this:
just power on with the power button:
red m logo, after some seconds it turns for about a half second to a black screen, again red m logo, and again and again and again
enter the bootloader works fine - 70.13
enter the system recovery works on charger, wiping out didn't help
flashing with rsd lite worked, but didn't change the situation with the bootloop. even after flashing, and wipe out after that.
i'm using windows 7 32bit and x64 on another computer in combination with rsd-lite 5.6
with rsd-lite 4.9 or earlier my device isn't recognized. admin and compitibility is on at all versions of rsd-lite.
anone an idea how to get this stone working again?
i'm a little confused, cause i saw so many posts, of people getting the stone back after flashing with rsd...hmm any help is pleased
greetz

Download rom GingerBread of UK
http://www.multiupload.com/TUZHXCGLMZ
Flash with RSD Lite 5.6... reboot
make wipes (POWER and X....... Vol + and Vol -)... reboot
has to boot normally ...

Just tried several versions of firmware. nothing did work.
i'm thinking about getting the 70.13 bootloader file and flash the bootloader once more.
or give it a try and flash the phone with an update.zip over recovery mode.
but first problem is: i don't have the booloader and the only mirror was megaload, at second i don't have any oem update.zip files. well i will look forward. can't understand why the phone is still looping.
would be happy about any other good suggestions.
greetz

Bootloader 70.13

thanks a lot for the bootloader, but did not help. still bootloop.
now i tried all german, DACH, UK GB fimware.
always rebooting and wiping.
Tha phone is still in bootloop.
May be an OEM update.zip could help. i still got access to the recovery mode.
is it possible to boot from the recovery mode into openrecovery, when the bootloader is original? don't think so, but will try that now.
still happy about an help here.
greetz

MKSilver said:
thanks a lot for the bootloader, but did not help. still bootloop.
now i tried all german, DACH, UK GB fimware.
always rebooting and wiping.
Tha phone is still in bootloop.
May be an OEM update.zip could help. i still got access to the recovery mode.
is it possible to boot from the recovery mode into openrecovery, when the bootloader is original? don't think so, but will try that now.
still happy about an help here.
greetz
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Don't use a 2 ou 2.2 android..I think it's on GB so you can't downgrade..
Charge your battery to 100%
Folow the step here with a 2.3.4 SBF take here
Have a nice day.

Hey all there,
i already tried to flash GB 2.3.4 Firmware for: Germany, DACH, UK - didn't work out.
of course i did a wipe after installing.
also i tried a rebuilt by renaming CG66.img into CG37img - didn't work out.
just saw, that when i rebuilt the firmware after changing cg66.img to cg37.img, the cg37.img file doesn't appear in the new built SBF.
any reason for that? hmm...
while depacking and rebuilt a SBF i saw, that the RAMDLD.img (ramdownloader) in the 2.3.4 GB DE retail SBF is in version 70.12. i'm no expert in built SBF files, just did this the first time, but could this have an incompatibility with the 70.13 bootloader?
well cause the phone was quite cheap, i will go on trying. may be some more of you guys have any ideas.
the standing now is:
reflash 70.13 bootloader - didn't work out,
flash any 2.3.4 GB SBF and wiping out data after flash - didn't work out
flash update.zip from recovery mode - haven't tried yet - need update.zip file or instruction how to built one.
the last point is my next step i think. i will now go reading how to get this manage.
any help is welcome!
greetz

Okay just learned, that flashing an update.zip with system recovery, doesn't erase any data on the phone, so will look forward, trying flash the phone with sbf under linux live cd.
may be this will help.
does anyone of you know some hardware testing tools for the milestone 2?
to test the ram/rom hardware...
i'm starting to think, that some of the hardware chips may be damaged.
hmm i always thought, that it is not possible to brick a stone with original bootloader/rom-image/firmware. just starting to learn, that it is possible although.
any help is welcome guys! my ideas are going to end.
greetz

Got still no luck and tried to flash it with sfb about 16 times now. RSD-Lite tells me it was everything okay, but still bootloop.
Any good ideas?
Greetz

You have no real idea of the phones history, so you may have to accept the possibilty that it could be a hardware issue. Perhaps it has taken some water damage (the indicators do not always end up going off btw - I fell into a pool fully clothed and the nokia i had at the time wouldn't ever recognize a sim again, yet no water damage indicators get wet somehow . Yet the rest was soaking)
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A thought occurs.... does it actually have a sim card slot? Like... is it possibly a Droid 2? :S
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Mikevhl said:
I know it's a bit extreme to do, but it might help for you. Try installing ubuntu or wubi, then use sbf_flash on ubuntu. It takes some time, but if you REALLY need to SBF you should give it a try. Usage is:
chmod 777 sbf_flash
./sbf_flash /path/to/sbf/file
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Got that from the recovery thread.
I dug up this guide to using ubuntu live cd to flash sbf's for the droid 2, hopefully you are switched on enough to workout what you need to do differently for the MS2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804088
I'd try that and see what happen

Hey guys,
first: thx to DreadPirateDan. you're right, i don't know enough about the phone. So i sat down after work and startet to read and with all the basic information i know about the phone. While analysing all the things i just saw a special thing in the bootloader:
When the phone is switched on into bootloader, the screen shows:
"Bootloader Fastboot mode
70.13
Battery OK
OK to Program
Transfer Mode:
USB"
So it seems that i've got the fastboot script active. So i should do everything with the phone i want to do, right?
i will go on reading. maybe i will find any way to check all the files.
Is it possible, that the phone loops because of fastboot mode and a secret saftyissue which bans all phones booting with active fastboot?
May any of u check on a not rooted and for difference rooted milestone 2, if the fastboot notify is standard?
Btw - got a Sim-Slot, so it seems to be a Milestone 2.
greetz

This ones a long shot - but if you have another USB cable available, try using that. Perhaps the one you are using is somewhat damaged - not enough to cause errors flashing, but enough to corrupt data? I don't know but i'd certainly give it a try! .
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Yeah that's the screen of bootloader saying it's all sweet to flash with rsd-lite
So that's a good sign
I'm concerned perhaps it's had some physical damage to the system storage.
I'm just confused, your steps appear to be all correct, what you've done allready, and it should have worked allready!

How did u get into Bootloader Fastboot mode???
Are you sure it says 'Fastboot' coz Fastboot could mean unlockable bootloader?
May be some developer could throw some more light on this.

When we first got the Chinese GB link I remember there were a couple of guys who had deceloper phones.. They never explained how they'd got them though lol
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Fastboot confirmed
Hey Guys,
well its definitly Fastboot. I installed Android SDK yesterday and tested a little bit.
I can flash images through fastboot and all those things.
Poblem is, i'm not so familiar with all those things. I know a little bit of electronics but not so much about how software and specially android works with the hardware. Just started yesterday to read about this.
Attached are some pics of my phone during bootloader and how it looks.
Now it would be first nice, to get this thing work!
Because at the moment it hangs still during booting, cause i don't know so much about how to flash from fastboot.
When it is true, that this could help this forum here, i won't sell it anymore. But i need help to work all this out.
I contated parallely the customer service of motorola at my country, to ask, if this device has still waranty via IMEI, but they don't have this IMEI in their database.
So come on guys, more information, how get the phone work again, may be with any rom we wish someday without hacking anything
greetz

I have the same problem. tried to bootstrap after ive installed cyanogen 7 and now im stuck on the M logo. wiping cache or factory reset won't work
thing is the links for sbf files at and-developers won't work :\ so now i cant flash anything
plz help

Alot of file sharing stuff got shut down just recently that's why all the links are dead
if you had previously upgraded to gingerbread, that is your problem - cm7 doesn't work with it. Have a crack at the dowgrade method endless7 has and then you can flash cm7 with CWM.

ok, i figured it out. just searched google for one of the builds. flashed it and it turned out to be a french retail version of froyo. installed MIUI rom. works fine

I maybe resurrecting this but I need help. I got my milestone 2 yesterday and then I rooted it successfully and then I tried to use ClockworkMod (Rom Manger mainly) to flash CM7. and well my phone is stuck in a boot loop now. It starts with a red M logo and then it goes to the CM android sliding in and the circle spinning then freezing and going again. I can only get into bootloader mode and when ever I plug my phone into my computer to use RSD it says chip error 43. I can't even find an SBF for my phone since all the links where to Megaupload. Please help
EDIT:
Okay so I just used the newest version of RSD and got a SBF for my phone but still the same thing happened. This time RSD kept on going and the CM android did what it was doing before.

Nikunj3xP said:
I maybe resurrecting this but I need help. I got my milestone 2 yesterday and then I rooted it successfully and then I tried to use ClockworkMod (Rom Manger mainly) to flash CM7. and well my phone is stuck in a boot loop now. It starts with a red M logo and then it goes to the CM android sliding in and the circle spinning then freezing and going again. I can only get into bootloader mode and when ever I plug my phone into my computer to use RSD it says chip error 43. I can't even find an SBF for my phone since all the links where to Megaupload. Please help
EDIT:
Okay so I just used the newest version of RSD and got a SBF for my phone but still the same thing happened. This time RSD kept on going and the CM android did what it was doing before.
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hi,
Can you please explain clearly if you are able to boot CWM recovery or are you just getting a boot loop and unable to boot to recovery? As far as I know you won't be able to flash clockwork mod recovery for the Milestone 2 using ROMManager .You need to use Droid 2 bootstrap recovery.

[Q] Old Motorola Bravo with 2.1 Update 1 ATT

I have Motorola Bravo with 2.1 Update 1 ATT. Can anyone help me to upgrade it to CM7 from quarx?
I want to know what are the tools I can use to root, install recovery.

anidesh said:
I have Motorola Bravo with 2.1 Update 1 ATT. Can anyone help me to upgrade it to CM7 from quarx?
I want to know what are the tools I can use to root, install recovery.
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Why dont you upgrade first to froyo?
Connect to internet, go to settings -> about phone -> I dont remenber the next
Else if you can upgrade via OTA update,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1559109
and flash SBF with RSD Lite!
We will continue after you upgrade to froyo!

Thanks
Please excuse me for being lazy. I should have searched more before posting my query. I found your guide of upgrading from Froyo before posting my query.
Anyway... thanks once again.......
I will upgrade to Froyo and then upgrade to quarx CM7 build. [Does wifi hotspot and USB tethering works in quarx CM7 build?]

anidesh said:
Please excuse me for being lazy. I should have searched more before posting my query. I found your guide of upgrading from Froyo before posting my query.
Anyway... thanks once again.......
I will upgrade to Froyo and then upgrade to quarx CM7 build. [Does wifi hotspot and USB tethering works in quarx CM7 build?]
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Of course, everything is working fine.
You can also use MIUI too everything is working , but I recommend CM7 it has official support from Quarx, ICS CM9 its officially supported.

I am able to upgrade to Froyo successfully using instruction provided in your thread. I am able to root also successfully using your instruction. But 2nd init Defy is not working. Whenever I install 2nd init Defy, my phone goes into boot loop. I have disabled USB debugging post install and restarted phone. I tried both latest version and stable version of recovery. In all cases, I am getting boot loop. Any pointers?

anidesh said:
I am able to upgrade to Froyo successfully using instruction provided in your thread. I am able to root also successfully using your instruction. But 2nd init Defy is not working. Whenever I install 2nd init Defy, my phone goes into boot loop. I have disabled USB debugging post install and restarted phone. I tried both latest version and stable version of recovery. In all cases, I am getting boot loop. Any pointers?
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When you install 2init and you run it, you press on install recovery, whatever you want, I always choose lastest.
It will ask you for root permissions twice. Later when installed led notificarion eill show green.
Turn off the phone then turn it on when motorola logo is shown you will see notification light in blue, press vol down button, and thats all.

Everything is performed as you have said. At last step when I turn on the phone. I am not getting blue light, I am getting always Motorola Red Logo continuously [boot loop?].
Dont know whether its related but I will try putting my getting another SD card.
Thanks all your support.

anidesh said:
Everything is performed as you have said. At last step when I turn on the phone. I am not getting blue light, I am getting always Motorola Red Logo continuously [boot loop?].
Dont know whether its related but I will try putting my getting another SD card.
Thanks all your support.
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Did you press volume down button when blue light?
It will go inmediatly to boot manager!

anidesh said:
I am able to upgrade to Froyo successfully using instruction provided in your thread. I am able to root also successfully using your instruction. But 2nd init Defy is not working. Whenever I install 2nd init Defy, my phone goes into boot loop. I have disabled USB debugging post install and restarted phone. I tried both latest version and stable version of recovery. In all cases, I am getting boot loop. Any pointers?
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Leave Debugging enabled after 2nd-Init installs and restart.
anidesh said:
Everything is performed as you have said. At last step when I turn on the phone. I am not getting blue light, I am getting always Motorola Red Logo continuously [boot loop?].
Dont know whether its related but I will try putting my getting another SD card.
Thanks all your support.
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Its not SD Card related. Did you update to Froyo with the OTA or SBF? I used the SBF myself and have never had any 2nd-init issues after installing it. One thing you can try is Factory Reset. Turn on the phone holding Power+Volume Up, then press Volume Up+Volume Down on the screen with a green triangle. Then select Wipe Data\Factory Reset. What this does is deletes everything on /data partition; old eclair data may still be there preventing the tools to work properly if you updated with OTA. Sometimes latent data is still left behind after flashing the sbf and this also helps with that as well.
Since you plan on installing custom roms, you can skip the Blur Setup by typing "eebluroffee" on the very first screen after flashing the sbf. Just hold down the menu button and it will bring up the soft keyboard. There's nothing to select to type into, just type the command and it will eventually work. Sometimes it takes a few tries to get it to work. Then just root and install 2nd-Init as usual.
Here is the link to the thread with the latest version of 2nd-Init Defy. The ones on our forum are outdated, but usually work perfectly (always for me).
Updated 2nd-Init 2.3 Thread

Thanks a lot. Finally I am able to install 2nd Init by replacing latest apk in installer created by josuearisty.
Thanks skeevy420 for the hint. Now I am able to upgrade bravo to latest CM7 from Quarx.
Mine is the oldest Bravo (its a engineering sample from Motorola).

anidesh said:
Thanks a lot. Finally I am able to install 2nd Init by replacing latest apk in installer created by josuearisty.
Thanks skeevy420 for the hint. Now I am able to upgrade bravo to latest CM7 from Quarx.
Mine is the oldest Bravo (its a engineering sample from Motorola).
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If it is an engineering sample, it may have an unlocked boot loader...

marquae11 said:
If it is an engineering sample, it may have an unlocked boot loader...
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I first though that as well. But if it did, it lost it by flashing the sbf and going retail.
@anidesh -- if you've never, ever, ever flashed an sbf on you're phone can you run the following two commands on Android Terminal Emulator without quotes "su" then "dd if=/dev/disk/mmcblk1p15 of=/mnt/sdcard/boot.img" and upload the boot.img to Mediafire or similar.
If you have flashed the sbf, then don't bother since if you had an unlocked bootloader you just lost it.

I already flashed retail sbf so I lost it. I have one more engineering sample. Its battery connection has problem. If I am able to fix it then I will get image you are asking.

anidesh said:
I already flashed retail sbf so I lost it. I have one more engineering sample. Its battery connection has problem. If I am able to fix it then I will get image you are asking.
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Have you tried making a MacGyver Cable? Although that won't work if it is a problem with the internal connection.
If it is just a battery connection problem then an OEM Motorola Factory Cable will work -- they send power directly to the phone where the standard usb cable only sends power to the battery. Only problem is they cost around $40 USD. Although if you flash roms a lot they are worth buying since you can flash the sbf and roms with 0% battery. There are sites with mods on how to make one, just google and you'll find one. If I remember correctly, Epsylon3 has a post with a tutorial on how to make one.

skeevy420 said:
Have you tried making a MacGyver Cable? Although that won't work if it is a problem with the internal connection.
If it is just a battery connection problem then an OEM Motorola Factory Cable will work -- they send power directly to the phone where the standard usb cable only sends power to the battery. Only problem is they cost around $40 USD. Although if you flash roms a lot they are worth buying since you can flash the sbf and roms with 0% battery. There are sites with mods on how to make one, just google and you'll find one. If I remember correctly, Epsylon3 has a post with a tutorial on how to make one.
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If someone wants to try new items to MIUI between this...
link..http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1535035
skeevy420 as work with the rom pikachu edition

[Q] Defy near death or worse. Please help!

Hi guys, you are my last hope!
Bought my Defy early 2011 and regularily updated with custom ROMs, so you could say I know a thing about rooting, RSD Lite, fixed sbfs, ...
Or at least I though I knew, but I still managed to kill my phone I think.
Here's what happend:
I tried to install Epsylon3s nightly from may 8th (http://defy.wdscript.fr/defy-cm9/). Before that, I was on CM 7.1
After installing the zip and rebooting, I saw the bootlogo, then i was asked for my pin code. As soon as i entered it, again to the bootlogo, again the pin, and so on.
So i realized something was wrong.
Could not get into recovery, so I flashed
JORDN_U3_97.21.51.sbf
as this often helped me in the past.
I then tried this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1498843
Also didn't start.
So back to
JORDN_U3_97.21.51.sbf
But here it might be, that I misclicked (I have quite some SBFs in that folder, cause I wanted to be prepared in case something went wrong), as after that, I never got my Defy to work again.
I was stuck at the Motorola M logo.
Coudln't get into recovery, so no zips for me anymore, only flashing of sfb.
That's basically when I entered panic mode. As I didn't know what I just flashed, I could only guess the problem. So I tried the Ginger2Froyo (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486731) in case I went to BL6. Also tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552152
But in this process, my RSD Lite started to behave strange:
when flashing, it's building the image, uploads it, checks checksum. But once it says "rebooting" it immediately jumps to 100% and pass. Phone how ever stays black and white LED.
Of course I can still flash other SBFs, and I tried various (JRDNEM_U3_3.4.3-36-1.7. sbf for example). But I either get the instant PASS, which tells me something didn't work, or sometimes I get the neverending bootlogo and RSD telling me to start the phone manually.
So... that's my story.
I can't seem to find a single SBF that would work for me. I screwed up big time.
To make this clear: at this point I don't care about downgradeability or anything thelike. Whatever makes my Defy work again, is fine. Froyo, Ginger, ICS, or whatever.
So if anybody still has any advice for me, I'll love you forever! Promise!
Thanks a lot in advance for any help you sure will offer,
Clock

Try this if you haven't :
Go into stock recovery and make a factory reset
Sent from my MB526 using XDA App

As I said, i cannot even enter recovery.
I'd be really happy to find an sbf, that at least lets me reset my phone.

Have u tried this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486731&highlight=bl6+downgrade

Clock1999 said:
As I said, i cannot even enter recovery.
I'd be really happy to find an sbf, that at least lets me reset my phone.
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Im sorry , thought you mean custom recovery when you say you can't enter recovery.
I was in the nearly same situation but i never changed my bootloader...., by me out works to power up my phone with pressed volume button down to enter stock recovery ...
So I'm sorry i couldn't help you
Sent from my MB526 using XDA App

You just like to play with your defy, don't ya
Have you tried the suggestions under Common problems/questions in this guide?

Thanks for all the responses.
However all the guides seem to point to two options only:
1) Flash this one Eclair (which I already mentioned that I did, that it used to work, but since the "instant 100% on rebooting" doesn't anymore.
2) Factory Reset/Wipe. Which I cannot, as I don't get into Recovery Mode. All I can do atm, is flash SBFs. Defy won't enter Recovery Mode (which I guess is a pretty bad sign)
But the way I always understood it, was that you only need to be careful what you install, so you don't lose downgradeability. And that, once lost, you wouldn't be able to flash "older" roms, but newer ones would always be possible.
So shouldn't there always be a rom, that saves me?
What about Defy+ roms? Any advice on that? Which best to try first? So far, I haven't touched Defy+ roms at all.
Thanks for the support!

Did you try this:
When Off, press Vol. down and power.
You'll get an exclamation mark inside a triangle.
Press both Vol. up and down at the same time.
Now you suppose to be in stock recovery and you can do factory reset.
Do the above after flashing stock SBF.

Hello again!
In the meantime, I flashed some 30 different SBFs, and at least I learned something:
when the bootloader verson is 6, I get stuck at Motorola Logo. I can enter bootloader mode, but not Stock Recovery.
When bootloader is below 6, RSD Lite doesn't get the Dey to reboot, but shows instant 100% PASS.
Okay, maybe this was to be expected, but I didn't realize how very similar sounding ROMs have very different bootloaders...
So: can anybody guide me on whether installing a BL7 ROM would repair my problem?
I read elsewhere, that my green lense definitely will not work. Is this true, or are there fixes? And if it's true: if I'm sure the rest will be working again, I'll take that. If I just rob myself of future chances, I'll pass.
And hints here?
Thanks in advance so much! One week without a phone is pure horror!
Clock

If you haven't flashed BL7, then check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486731&highlight=bl6+downgrade&page=2

Clock1999 said:
Hello again!
In the meantime, I flashed some 30 different SBFs, and at least I learned something:
when the bootloader verson is 6, I get stuck at Motorola Logo. I can enter bootloader mode, but not Stock Recovery.
When bootloader is below 6, RSD Lite doesn't get the Dey to reboot, but shows instant 100% PASS.
Okay, maybe this was to be expected, but I didn't realize how very similar sounding ROMs have very different bootloaders...
So: can anybody guide me on whether installing a BL7 ROM would repair my problem?
I read elsewhere, that my green lense definitely will not work. Is this true, or are there fixes? And if it's true: if I'm sure the rest will be working again, I'll take that. If I just rob myself of future chances, I'll pass.
And hints here?
Thanks in advance so much! One week without a phone is pure horror!
Clock
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If you flash any of the defy+ roms, camera won't work..there isn't a fix or patch for that..
Doesn't matter from where I send it, what matters is written above

corrinti said:
If you haven't flashed BL7, then check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486731&highlight=bl6+downgrade&page=2
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Hi,
as I mentioned above, I already tried this ROM but it gives me the same result as all the others: stuck at bootlogo.
Maybe there is a special trick on which ROM I should flash before flashing this one?

Sorry, I do not know how to help. Just no idea now, try to dig the forum.
Once I had very similar problem - whatever I flashed I was stuck at bootlogo. And in my case I found out that just before flash my internal memory had been filled with some mess, which was not removed by any wipes (cache, dalvik cache, cache partition) and after any flash memory was too filled to start the system.
But finally I could flash Chinese eclair (CG5), which at last started horribly laggy, and I could wipe private data from a system - it gave me more than 1GB of internal memory back (from 40MB after all wipes and clean system install) and a way to flash whatever I wanted without a problem.
So even if it is also your problem, my way is not available to you now. Maybe you can find as small sbf file as possible and try then.

I'm sorry, but I don't quite get, which ROM saved you, and why that is no option to me. Can you please clearify? Thanks a lot!

Clock1999 said:
I'm sorry, but I don't quite get, which ROM saved you, and why that is no option to me. Can you please clearify? Thanks a lot!
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I could use CG5 full sbf which will not boot for you as you put BL6 and maybe BL7.
To boot from flashed sbf it cannot be lower BL version.
I suppose that now you have a memory problem - flashing sbf do not wipe the memory.
At first I would try getting into stock recovery (even several times, just pull battery out, wait a minute, power, vol -, battery in) - if successful then do a factory reset and reboot.
If not I would try to find out a smallest sbf with proper BL version - just to give it more chance to boot with small memory available, if not then again try to get into stock recovery.

I'm the happiest guy around, as I finally revitalized my Defy.
For all you guys, who already tried everything: here's what worked for me.
Just let it rest a few days.
After I hadn't touched my phone for a couple of days, I thought about giving it one last try. So I flashed the Defy+ SBF (4th in this list: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/umts_jordanplus/list.php), like I've done multiple times before.
But this time, when rebooting, I wasn't stuck at the M-logo, but in a bootloop. And that gave me the smiles as I knew, that now I should be able to enter Stock Recovery again. From there on, it was no problem to get to a stable base again. After flashing the BL6 Froyo, I'm now on CM9 and everything is fine.
Thanks for all you help.
Sometimes, you just have to give it a rest...
Clock

It is a next such case I see in moto forums ;-) but it is really hard to give a tip: leave it for few days and check again

Use the sbf_flash for Linux
Sent from my MB526 using Tapatalk 2

Identification

Hello and Good day to all of xda's member.
I'm new to Android.
I bought my Defy used, and it comes flashed with some custom rom.
As its not in its original state, I do not know how to identify all those baseband,kernel or what is deep in the system.
The thing I know was that it was Android 2.2.1 which is a Froyo.
Recently there's so many great rom out there, which I think could greatly improve experience on using Defy as a real main phone which I migrated from a button based SE phone. Still trying hard to get used to it.
Hope you guys are kind enough to guide me abit so that I know how it goes.
Like Window based software, there's always a BIOS in the mobo and on top of it its a Window and Software ... etc.
I'm really interested in Quarx CM9 project and Wajk WIUI but know nothing about them, I need to know what I'm on, and what to be done to jump to those ROMs.
Basically those kernel and baseband are my toughest thing to identify.
On Android it was more of like Linux, which I couldn't familiar with.
There's an attach screen below, Please help me look out.
Thankful with that.

it has jboogies rom installed.
you can start by flashing a froyo sbf (cee) (2.2.2).
then root using super 1 click
install defy 2nd init
then flash a rom using recovery
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982
How to Flash
Ok! Now that we understand how a lot of stuff works, it’s rather easy to get a new Android version installed on your phone.
For any full SBF the same steps must be always done, just be sure to know what SBF are you flashing and keep always in mind your CG Version to keep the possibility to downgrade in case you need your warranty.
Requirements
Get the SBF you want to flash
- Full SBF: No Nandroid backup needed, always keep CG versioning in mind.
- Fixed SBF: You might need a matching Nandroid Backup.
Get and Install RSD Lite v4.9: There are reports of other versions working, but this one is what I have used.
Get and Install Motorola Drivers [32bits] [64bits]
Now to Business:
To Flash full SBFs, here is the standard procedure:
Open RSD Lite: Click on [ … ] Button and select your .SBF (Remember to rename to a short name and put it on root of your PC) and click Open.
Boot your phone into Bootloader Mode (check last section if you don’t know how to do it).
Now connect your Defy to your PC
The START button on RSD Lite should be available now, click and wait.

From where did you get your defy? Second hand?
Sent from my MB526 using Tapatalk 2

thanks
kanpurite said:
it has jboogies rom installed.
you can start by flashing a froyo sbf (cee) (2.2.2).
then root using super 1 click
install defy 2nd init
then flash a rom using recovery
---------- Post added at 11:02 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:59 AM ----------
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982
How to Flash
Ok! Now that we understand how a lot of stuff works, it’s rather easy to get a new Android version installed on your phone.
For any full SBF the same steps must be always done, just be sure to know what SBF are you flashing and keep always in mind your CG Version to keep the possibility to downgrade in case you need your warranty.
Requirements
Get the SBF you want to flash
- Full SBF: No Nandroid backup needed, always keep CG versioning in mind.
- Fixed SBF: You might need a matching Nandroid Backup.
Get and Install RSD Lite v4.9: There are reports of other versions working, but this one is what I have used.
Get and Install Motorola Drivers [32bits] [64bits]
Now to Business:
To Flash full SBFs, here is the standard procedure:
Open RSD Lite: Click on [ … ] Button and select your .SBF (Remember to rename to a short name and put it on root of your PC) and click Open.
Boot your phone into Bootloader Mode (check last section if you don’t know how to do it).
Now connect your Defy to your PC
The START button on RSD Lite should be available now, click and wait.
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Thanks for the brief reply.
Let me digest abit first before trying out.
and whats froyo sbf (cee) btw.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Motorola_Defy#Android_2.2_.28Froyo.29_Stock_ROMs

pjgowtham said:
From where did you get your defy? Second hand?
Sent from my MB526 using Tapatalk 2
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yup, its a used unit I bought.
but the fact is, it has been with me for the past almost 2years and I knew nothing about it since I use it as a wifi phone.
now I'm trying to migrate to this as a main phone and found out the flaws

kanpurite said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Motorola_Defy#Android_2.2_.28Froyo.29_Stock_ROMs
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thank you.
but i still do not understand it.
it should be this right what you mention "3.4.2 179-002 CEE Deblur 9 Jun 2011"
why not the latest Froyo "3.4.3-36-1.7 SEA15 June 2011 deblur - Latest Defy Stock ROM"
or even
Gingerbread 2.3.4 "leaked 2.3.4 officilal mb525 greens lens" as stock rom?
as the rom we are going is either Gingerbread or ICS.
Or this has something to do with what I has, I have to flash it first to another froyo before it could be flash to another upgraded Gingerbread or ICS.

CEE deblur is recommended be Quarx(one of the main developers)
however SEA works perfect(I've used it on mine)
dont go for gingerbread full sbf as they may affect your downgrade ability.
anyways both cm7,cm9 have froyo as their base so just flash one of the froyo sbf via rsd lite and you will be fine.

kanpurite said:
CEE deblur is recommended be Quarx(one of the main developers)
however SEA works perfect(I've used it on mine)
dont go for gingerbread full sbf as they may affect your downgrade ability.
anyways both cm7,cm9 have froyo as their base so just flash one of the froyo sbf via rsd lite and you will be fine.
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Hello, thanks for the recommendation, I really knows nothing about choosing the based ROM.
Haven't tried anything yet but my defy don't have any fancy boot option.
Just a very normal off.
and
I tried switching it on with vol- pwr up, as well as vol+ pwr up.
one will display:
Boot Loader 9.10
Click Ok to flash.
another will
Boot up and stuck at a screen with a
logo and Android doll and stuck there forever until battery removed.
Another thing I always saw is, rsdlite, nandroid, 2init, clockworkmod, titaniumbackup
on most of the flashing thread, I wonder what are they and whether they are download and install in the PC or in the Android itself.
Flashing need PC or just our Android with all data in will do?

Oh, you need to start from the scratch then !
Ok ,
1) First of all download and install 'RSD lite' on you pc.(google it or search the forum for direct link)
2) download the sbf from the link i gave before(go for SEA)
do this first and let me know !

kanpurite said:
Oh, you need to start from the scratch then !
Ok ,
1) First of all download and install 'RSD lite' on you pc.(google it or search the forum for direct link)
2) download the sbf from the link i gave before(go for SEA)
do this first and let me know !
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Done this,
Should I proceed on flashing it? I mean load the sbf and press start?
Should I do any backup at this moment?
(nandroid, 2init, clockworkmod, titaniumbackup) use which ?

All right.
since your's is not a stock rom , there is no need to do a nandroid backup.
your rom , it seems is already rooted , so you can install titanium backup and make a backup for apps.(if you want)
in case you want to make a nandroid backup as well ,install 2nd init( latest one )
This will install clockworkmod recovery on your phone.[Better skip this step because i dont know if clockwork mod recovery is there on your phone or not]
after backing up ,you can flash the sbf via rsd lite.
at the end of flashing it will reboot.
in case it does not reboot itself :-
1)Enter stock recovery (volume and power key)
2)when the traingle appears press both volume keys
3)select wipe data and cache option
4)reboot
now the phone will boot.
you will be on froyo 2.2.2 now.

kanpurite said:
All right.
since your's is not a stock rom , there is no need to do a nandroid backup.
your rom , it seems is already rooted , so you can install titanium backup and make a backup for apps.(if you want)
in case you want to make a nandroid backup as well ,install 2nd init( latest one )
This will install clockworkmod recovery on your phone.[Better skip this step because i dont know if clockwork mod recovery is there on your phone or not]
after backing up ,you can flash the sbf via rsd lite.
at the end of flashing it will reboot.
in case it does not reboot itself :-
1)Enter stock recovery (volume and power key)
2)when the traingle appears press both volume keys
3)select wipe data and cache option
4)reboot
now the phone will boot.
you will be on froyo 2.2.2 now.
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It has clockwordmod in.
I have also installed this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032212

ok then.
reboot the phone.
when led goes blue,press volume down.
you will enter the recovery.
enter custom recovery ( latest/stable )
select backup and restore.
backup.
your nandroid backup will be created.
after this reboot your phone and flash the sbf !

kanpurite said:
ok then.
reboot the phone.
when led goes blue,press volume down.
you will enter the recovery.
enter custom recovery ( latest/stable )
select backup and restore.
backup.
your nandroid backup will be created.
after this reboot your phone and flash the sbf !
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Thanks to you I think I can finally started to understand abit about its concept.
basically clockworkmod stuff/recovery is for us back up our current rom.
which is abit pointless if we are using custom-rom. unless we are eager to go back to the current custom-rom.
normally it would be for those with stock rom, for warranty purpose incase anything happen right?

rugaxp said:
Thanks to you I think I can finally started to understand abit about its concept.
basically clockworkmod stuff/recovery is for us back up our current rom.
which is abit pointless if we are using custom-rom. unless we are eager to go back to the current custom-rom.
normally it would be for those with stock rom, for warranty purpose incase anything happen right?
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correct

Awww.. after all this long.
Finally it has been done.
I realise that after flashing that SBF, Root capability is gone, I have tried to use SuperOneClick 2.3.3 and its seems to run fine.
The phone seems like getting alot missing error from Titanium Backup.
What's the next step to proceed on custom rom?
I guess now I'm on a Stock 2.2.2 Froyo right?
Edit:
Also now this far, there hasn't be any news on a Defy Unlock Bootloader right?
It is still in bootloader 9.10.
I wonder the Defy+ and Defy XT has it or not. I thought Motorola is going to do so? no?
Add: Latest screenie
I notice that baseband vers. doesn't change at all, and kernel seems to be similar. any idea what/how are they related to my flash?

perfect !
so you have obtained root , right ?
now install 2nd init (just like you did before)
this will install clockworkmod recovery(which should be gone after flashing!)
now place the rom you want in the folder download
(in sdcard\clockworkmod\download)
(since you are on froyo kernel right now ,select any froyo base rom :-
epsylon'd cm9 defy build
fuzz's cm9 defy build
or cm7 builds for defy)
also download the latest gapps (cm7 or cm9 ,based on the rom you select) and place in the same folder.
1)now reboot into recovery(press volume down on blue led)
2)select custom recovery
4)install zip from sd card
5)first install the rom then gapps
6)wipe data/factory reset
7)wipe cache and dalvik cache
8)reboot
and thats it !
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illustrated thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054447

btw,
i nvr got a chance to ask what is the ROM you are using and what are you recommending
for a better usage experience as a full fledge main phone.
i rely much on wifi/3g/gps and could not tolerate much on touch screen delays/lags.
i migrate to this from a SE W800i antique candybar button phone.

rugaxp said:
btw,
i nvr got a chance to ask what is the ROM you are using and what are you recommending
for a better usage experience as a full fledge main phone.
i rely much on wifi/3g/gps and could not tolerate much on touch screen delays/lags.
i migrate to this from a SE W800i antique candybar button phone.
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You can start with cm7.it is completely stable .
you may use maniac's , fuzz's , epsylons or quarx's build .
I'm on fuzz's build right now.
http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/gigglebread/index.php?id=jordan

[Q] [DEFYMB525] Help my old "friend" please :)

Hi!
I know that that I am mentioning now very old device as Motorola Defy MB525 green lense.
I wanted to flash Cyanogenmod 10.1 again in my Defy. I did full wipe and removed some folders on SD card reffering to old apps.
And it seems I messed up with Clockworkmod Recovery folder on SD and I left myself without it. And I tried to reinstall it using official guide found here: wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_jordan[/url]
But I did not unpack all the files, so the installation was not fulfilled and I got like empty Android boot menu 0.6.1 without possibility to boot an operating system or to do anything (got errors whatever I choose: E:Error in /system/bootmenu/script/recovery.sh)
I have read tons of online materials and forums, and I could only restore stock Defy ROM 2.3.4 using RSD lite.
And I didn't find solution how to reinstall the boot menu :crying: So that is why I am asking you for help.
I can run only Download Mode and this useless Android Boot Menu.
How to reinstall Android boot menu/install custom recovery back?
I like my Defy and I do not want to put it in the drawer yet
Thank you in advance!
Vixificent

The bootmenu is housed in the partition system.
All you have to do is flash the stock firmware, root with Framaroot (app) and install the bootmenu and recovery with 2nd init (app). After this simply download the rom and gapps, you do wipe cache, data, dalvik cache and flash it (first rom, then gapps).

cristiand391 said:
The bootmenu is housed in the partition system.
All you have to do is flash the stock firmware, root with Framaroot (app) and install the bootmenu and recovery with 2nd init (app). After this simply download the rom and gapps, you do wipe cache, data, dalvik cache and flash it (first rom, then gapps).
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Thank you for your reply and suggestion! But the thing is that I cannot boot the device, so usage of any apk is not possible. When I run my Defy it goes directly to Android Boot menu 0.6.1, which is not installed properly (source files missing, eg. ".sh" files).
Should I try to root it via computer? Then, how to do it with only Download Mode available?
Any help would be appreciated!

Vixificent said:
Thank you for your reply and suggestion! But the thing is that I cannot boot the device, so usage of any apk is not possible
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YOu can recover your device using an appropriate .sdf file and a program called RSD Lite. There are many how-tos on this - the first one I found was http://www.locslikes.com/motorola-defy/unbrick-and-restore-to-default-sbf/. You'll also find a number of tutorials on these forums.

robbak said:
YOu can recover your device using an appropriate .sdf file and a program called RSD Lite. There are many how-tos on this - the first one I found was http://www.locslikes.com/motorola-defy/unbrick-and-restore-to-default-sbf/. You'll also find a number of tutorials on these forums.
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Quite a late answer, but the solution offered by robbak worked perfectly! Thank you!

Vixificent said:
Quite a late answer, but the solution offered by robbak worked perfectly! Thank you!
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I have a similar issue. How did you do the fix you used? The SBF files don't seem to be on the site you were referred to anymore.
Years ago, my unmodified (not rooted) Defy (running Android 2.2.1) started to boot loop, so I eventually did a factory reset. That worked for a while, although certain apps were suddenly no longer compatible) and then suddenly the defy froze on the Moto logo (not even cycling to the Blur screen) and I could no longer get to the reset screen.
However I could still get to the bootloader, so I tried to use RDS lite.
I got one sbf to say it passed, but the phone did not reboot. (I could only find 2 SBF's for the US and only got one to work). Now RDS will detect whether the phone is on or off (and if on I'll get a white LED) and I can flash the sbf still, but otherwise the phone is completely bricked - can't get to reset OR bootloader screen.
When I plug the phone into the USB the white LED comes on, but I can't raise ANYTHING on the screen (reset screen or bootloader screen, holding down the volume up or down w/ the power button). However pressing the power button alone does cause the computer to recognize hardware is plugged in, or alternately disconnected. RSD tells me a device is connected, but the only info given is the bootloader version and AP ID info (whatever that is). However, when I load the SBF, the phone lights up and says SW update in progress...
RSD tells me the phone is being rebooted and has passed, but screen goes dark and all I see i the white LED again.
I tried these two SBFs:
T-Mobile_MB525_6.19.0_1FF.sbf
JORDN_U3_6_36_0_SIGNED_USAJRDNTMOB1B4B5DE1028_0R_J ORDANTMO_P022_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf
Only the 1st one works.
I am not that tech savy regarding Android, so i am looking for some help.
Thanks!

Hi DefyVictim,
I understand your concerns - the restore process is a little bit complicated, but still not impossible. There is a strange procedure how to get your phone connected in such a way that RSD lite sees it. In the link given by robbak there is a video which is an exactly described tutorial. Did you follow it carefully?
It goes like - you need to FIRST get the bootloader and then connect it to the PC. If I understood it right, you tried to get the bootloader after you got the phone connected - which did not work.
I had a similar issue but finally figured it out. Oh, and there was just another thing - the battery was too low, so I had to do quite risky McGyver method to charge the battery somehow (no charging when your phone is bricked!), but be careful, this is potentially dangerous. Nothing happend for me, because I charged my phone for a minimum of time (like half an hour) to get it working.
Check this thread if you face battery low warning:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892026
I know now it is a pain to get a SBF file, but not sure if the T-mobile should be working unless your phone wasn't coming from T-mobile (?)