It seems that a lot of people have bought the international version of the S3 and can't seem to accept that their phone is inferior. I've read a lot of stuff and so far it seems that the American S3 is better overall.
- You have LTE support. It's very fast and the latest technology, so why not stream those HD YouTube and Netflix videos easily? Besides you can always revert back to HSPA+.
- You have 2GB RAM as opposed to 1GB. That's pretty self explanatory, you are getting double the RAM and probably will not have to worry about any memory issues for years to come.
- S3 custom androids and dev can always be ported, and also since most Americans will be using the American version, you can be assured that there will be tons of great android development from North Americans.
- The Snapdragon processor is faster for single threaded applications and is a power house on its own. Let's not forget overclocking. I will not say say "quad core is overkill" because in a few years dual cores will be obsolete. Technology moves fast.
- Locked bootloaders will be cracked and bloatware can be removed.
- You can always unlock your phone to use it on another carrier.
- Warranty will be easy as you can take it to the store and whatnot.
The only cons I can think of:
- Wolfson sound chip may not be on the American S3, which will be a disappointment but as long as the sound is good I don't see a big issue here.
- International is a bit cheaper in price.
- International is better for, international people. Unless you're going around the world in many countries you are fine with the American S3.
Mines better than yours? Because I have mine...
Frostie123 said:
It seems that a lot of people have bought the international version of the S3 and can't seem to accept that their phone is inferior. I've read a lot of stuff and so far it seems that the American S3 is better overall.
- You have LTE support. It's very fast and the latest technology, so why not stream those HD YouTube and Netflix videos easily? Besides you can always revert back to HSPA+.
- You have 2GB RAM as opposed to 1GB. That's pretty self explanatory, you are getting double the RAM and probably will not have to worry about any memory issues for years to come.
- S3 custom androids and dev can always be ported, and also since most Americans will be using the American version, you can be assured that there will be tons of great android development from North Americans.
- The Snapdragon processor is faster for single threaded applications and is a power house on its own. Let's not forget overclocking. I will not say say "quad core is overkill" because in a few years dual cores will be obsolete. Technology moves fast.
- Locked bootloaders will be cracked and bloatware can be removed.
- You can always unlock your phone to use it on another carrier.
- Warranty will be easy as you can take it to the store and whatnot.
The only cons I can think of:
- Wolfson sound chip may not be on the American S3, which will be a disappointment but as long as the sound is good I don't see a big issue here.
- International is a bit cheaper in price.
- International is better for, international people. Unless you're going around the world in many countries you are fine with the American S3.
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There's no dislikes whatsoever. The problem is this topic, people boasting about which one is better and why. That causes the hate. You are part of this problem by attaching "it's technically better" without any real facts or proof.
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There's no dislikes whatsoever. The problem is this topic, people boasting about which one is better and why. That causes the hate. You are part of this problem by attaching "it's technically better" without any real facts or proof.
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Agree what's with people yours is better than mine... It's like a bunch of kids.
Buy the one you like and be done with.
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Wow us model gets 2 gigs of ram? Hmm why didn't they give the international version 2 gigs?
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I want the International version simply for the fact that I have no need for LTE and I can pay $10 a month for Unlimited and unthrottled data.
Specs wise they are pretty evenly matched.
so far the biggest Pro that you mentioned is LTE to me.....all the others i think the International trumps its stateside counterparts.
LTE is great, but you can stream movies just fine on HSPA+ and not have freezing and stuttering. rest is just to keep with the international version.
dont glorify something that does not need it.....they BOTH are great devices.
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- S3 custom androids and dev can always be ported, and also since most Americans will be using the American version, you can be assured that there will be tons of great android development from North Americans.
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And yet all the previous American phones lagged in development.
Also, a great big gaping con:
-Most carriers will bundle their S3 with their extraordinate monthly fees. When you say the international is "a bit cheaper", you really should mean $500-$1000 cheaper.
(Than getting an international with prepaid, for instance. Or hell, if you can get that $10/month plan, the opportunity costs of getting the carrier version just skyrocket, no pun intended.)
2 gigs of ram does sound interesting if it allows for better multitasking. I hope there are more positive effects than just freezing fewer programs.
No lie, there is about a dozen threads where you can grind this axe, avail yourself of them.
IMO the international version is better for 2 reasons: The Exynos quad core and the Mali GPU is better ( not much but still slightly better ) than the S4/Adreno 225 and it will have MUCH MUCH better development ( as every international version )! The latter is very important for me. I find 1 gig of RAM more than enough but 2 gigs would be nice for showing off to my friends!
Both are great phones, I just feel that this time the Americans didn't get shafted. Also this phone is going to be big so to say there will be dev lag is absurd. And for those who pay a lot per month, try getting a deal on retention.. I'm paying very little and getting tons of data.
And of course I am referring to Canadians and Americans.
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And for those who pay a lot per month, try getting a deal on retention.. I'm paying very little and getting tons of data.
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How much and which carrier?
I just ordered the international yesterday after knowing the ATT specs. For me I'd rather have 4 cores and the best hackability.
2 gb of ram is nice, but I don't run out with the GN so I'm not concerned.
LTE isn't available where I live. When I travel it would be nice, but I also need my battery to get through a day.
Like it or not a lot of your items are saying things will be ported or will be unlocked. Things don't always get unlocked and at the very least you are behind the international on things getting done.
The american will have same battry capacity 2100mah bt it will last more then international bcoz of krait core power efficient cpu!
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- International is a bit cheaper in price.
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And yet all the previous American phones lagged in development.
Also, a great big gaping con:
-Most carriers will bundle their S3 with their extraordinate monthly fees. When you say the international is "a bit cheaper", you really should mean $500-$1000 cheaper.
(Than getting an international with prepaid, for instance. Or hell, if you can get that $10/month plan, the opportunity costs of getting the carrier version just skyrocket, no pun intended.)
2 gigs of ram does sound interesting if it allows for better multitasking. I hope there are more positive effects than just freezing fewer programs.
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How is the international cheaper? From what I see, it's around $694 for the international(Cheapest I have seen so far) the ATT version full price is $550, the verizon one will be $599 so if you buy the phone outright it's still cheaper than the international version. I'm going to be paying the same monthly fees regardless of which one I get as I wont be changing plans or carriers.
I'm on the fence on which to get. I think I will wait until it's in an ATT store and I play with one before I decide. I'll also see if the samsung showroom here in NYC has an international version for me to play with. or wait until someone does a side by side video of the two. I wont be able to buy it until mid July anyway so that will give me more time to get a comparison of the two
Wolfson sound chip may not be on the American S3, which will be a disappointment but as long as the sound is good I don't see a big issue here.
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Actually, you need to check the RMAA test for the HTC One S. I heard it has great sound quality.
You can always unlock your phone to use it on another carrier.
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If the T-Mobile S3 support ATT band as well, which the spec sheet seems to say so, then it'll be very useful, similar to how the Vibrant was, but this time with 850MHz also. This is the only thing that compels me on the S3 right now in addition to minor hardware update.
Locked bootloaders will be cracked and bloatware can be removed.
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It's still nowhere convenient as a Nexus were you get OTA and not having to wait for the custom roms to bring it back to stock experience. With that said, I don't think the T-Mobile version will be bootloader locked and rooting Samsung phones has always been easy for me.
I'll wait a couple months to see the price go down and any news on the next Nexus. But for people still on single core phones, this will be a big leap.
I do think that people dismissing the American version since its dualcore is a mistake. I prefer to the American version due to newer and more efficient CPU and the more ram. But that's a hard call when weighing it against international unlocked and bloat free and definitely with more developers working on. I don't even care about the quadcore aspect of this phone, you are bound to make a wrong purchase decision if you just look at one selling point.
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I just ordered the international yesterday after knowing the ATT specs. For me I'd rather have 4 cores and the best hackability.
2 gb of ram is nice, but I don't run out with the GN so I'm not concerned.
LTE isn't available where I live. When I travel it would be nice, but I also need my battery to get through a day.
Like it or not a lot of your items are saying things will be ported or will be unlocked. Things don't always get unlocked and at the very least you are behind the international on things getting done.
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I doubt it will be locked. The Captivate and the GS2 on ATT were not locked and very easily hackable. The ATT version of the GS2 was so close to the international hw wise that we can port pretty much anything from the International gs2 pretty easily. What will making porting more difficult this time around is the different CPU's but it will be possible, just not as easy as it was to port stuff from the intl GS2.
edit: when you said unlocked I was assuming you meant bootloader unlocked, if you meant SIM unlocked that should also not be too hard to do.
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It seems that a lot of people have bought the international version of the S3 and can't seem to accept that their phone is inferior.
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Oh dear. Sigh.
Frostie123 said:
It seems that a lot of people have bought the international version of the S3 and can't seem to accept that their phone is inferior. I've read a lot of stuff and so far it seems that the American S3 is better overall.
- You have LTE support. It's very fast and the latest technology, so why not stream those HD YouTube and Netflix videos easily? Besides you can always revert back to HSPA+.
- You have 2GB RAM as opposed to 1GB. That's pretty self explanatory, you are getting double the RAM and probably will not have to worry about any memory issues for years to come.
- S3 custom androids and dev can always be ported, and also since most Americans will be using the American version, you can be assured that there will be tons of great android development from North Americans.
- The Snapdragon processor is faster for single threaded applications and is a power house on its own. Let's not forget overclocking. I will not say say "quad core is overkill" because in a few years dual cores will be obsolete. Technology moves fast.
- Locked bootloaders will be cracked and bloatware can be removed.
- You can always unlock your phone to use it on another carrier.
- Warranty will be easy as you can take it to the store and whatnot.
The only cons I can think of:
- Wolfson sound chip may not be on the American S3, which will be a disappointment but as long as the sound is good I don't see a big issue here.
- International is a bit cheaper in price.
- International is better for, international people. Unless you're going around the world in many countries you are fine with the American S3.
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LTE is not yet mature and will continue to be a battery hog for at least a year. Everyone who says LTE is awesome seems to be completely oblivious to the fact that even HSPA+ makes it VERY easy to hit your data cap.
2GB RAM so far has little benefit - current devices are doing just fine with 1GB
International S3 development work will be 90% nonportable to the North American mangled carrier variants. If you don't believe me - look at the T989 and I727 forums and compare them to the I9100 forum. Compare the I717 forum to the GT-N7000 forum in terms of development.
This becomes especially obvious when you look at AOSP bringups. Because the international S3 is highly similar to the international S2, the CM9 bringup for that device is progressing rapidly. Meanwhile, the T989/I727/I717 CM9 bringups are still in "alpha" quality stages due to the lack of documentation on Qualcomm SoCs and the lack of commonality with international variants.
This is one of the big keys - North American carriers are highly notorious for long delays with updates. This means that you will not see updates or kernel source for your specific variant for a long time after international variants receive updates. Now, if your carrier variant is highly similar to the international device (SGH-I777 vs. GT-I9100), the international device's kernel source release may be all your need. If your carrier variant has a completely different SoC - you're SOL.
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IMO the international version is better for 2 reasons: The Exynos quad core and the Mali GPU is better ( not much but still slightly better ) than the S4/Adreno 225 and it will have MUCH MUCH better development ( as every international version )! The latter is very important for me. I find 1 gig of RAM more than enough but 2 gigs would be nice for showing off to my friends!
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Tmali 400 gpu is verclocked and software optimized than s2 one and its way better than adreno 225. If u wanna game a lot u would wanna pick international version.I have seen guy playing nova 3 he said console quality graphics.it runs so smooth.
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use my upgrade and be locked in for another 2 years or buy the international version spec'ed one minus the lte? Or should I just get the Galaxy Nexus?
Im not to crazy about the lte as im sure my home area doesnt have it anyway. And Im pretty sure it'll eat up battery. Is there a difference in picture/video quality in either one of these? Compared to the Galaxy Nexus specs wise and camera/video wise?
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use my upgrade and be locked in for another 2 years or buy the international version spec'ed one minus the lte? Or should I just get the Galaxy Nexus?
Im not to crazy about the lte as im sure my home area doesnt have it anyway. And Im pretty sure it'll eat up battery. Is there a difference in picture/video quality in either one of these? Compared to the Galaxy Nexus specs wise and camera/video wise?
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Depends on what you use your smartphone for. If your usung it for advanced things like note taking, then the note. I personally would just use the att one,as sammy products have a pretty high failure rate, heck my infuse is still broken, i have to get a new one. If it was the international version, your 700 would gone, or it would takes weeks to get it fixed/get a new one. Instead on the nexus, you could get the skyrocket hd which will be atts version.
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Depends on what you use your smartphone for. If your usung it for advanced things like note taking, then the note. I personally would just use the att one,as sammy products have a pretty high failure rate, heck my infuse is still broken, i have to get a new one. If it was the international version, your 700 would gone, or it would takes weeks to get it fixed/get a new one. Instead on the nexus, you could get the skyrocket hd which will be atts version.
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So the skyrocket hd will be the at&t galaxy nexus version? I didnt know that. I guess I have another one to think about, when I mentioned the galaxy nexus I meant the unlocked version.You have a point on waiting for something to get fixed when you order an unlocked version. Im not even thinking much about taking notes but more for the bigger screen. Wonder what the release dates are for the at&t version for both note and galaxy nexus.
Wait for the AT&T version.
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Wait for the AT&T version.
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I see but now I'll be torn between this at&t version and the galaxy nexus at&t version. I would like to wait until both are released and read about complaints etc. I'll be waiting at least another month I guess. My current htc inspire is getting a bit long in the tooth you know.
If you don't care about LTE or worried about possible failure, get International version because it has better development support and beefier processor.
I was in the same situation as you and wanted to upgrade from SkyRocket. I ended up getting an international version because of the following reasons
- Lack of support for AT&T version (due to different processors.)
- Don't want to wait for months for AT&T version to be available.
- HATE AT&T bloatware.
If you have the money to spend on an unlocked version I would do that. I was in your shoes with no LTE in the area. On top of that I didn't want bloatware or a 2 year contract (the better processor being a bonus). I spent the extra cash and could not be happier, plus development on the international unlocked version will blow the at&t versions development out of the water.
How long have you been with ATT? Are you happy with them and pretty sure you will stay with them? If so, wait for the ATT version and get it on contract. You could always sell it and put the profit to any phone you want. The GNote blows the GNex out of the water spec wise and user wise. Once the GNote gets ICS the GNex will be left further behind. The GNote is Samsung's flagship product!
I have the International GNote and love it. I would not sell mine, but I might sell the skyrocket and get the ATT version GNote with no commitment pricing to have an LTE version...I switch between my GNote and skyrocket and my skyrocket has not been getting much love or use lately!
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If you don't care about LTE or worried about possible failure, get International version because it has better development support and beefier processor.
I was in the same situation as you and wanted to upgrade from SkyRocket. I ended up getting an international version because of the following reasons
- Lack of support for AT&T version (due to different processors.)
- Don't want to wait for months for AT&T version to be available.
- HATE AT&T bloatware.
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If you have the money to spend on an unlocked version I would do that. I was in your shoes with no LTE in the area. On top of that I didn't want bloatware or a 2 year contract (the better processor being a bonus). I spent the extra cash and could not be happier, plus development on the international unlocked version will blow the at&t versions development out of the water.
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I dont care much about lte because its not covered everywhere I go, and Im a bit worried about failure. Any recommend online vendors where I could purchase an international version from?
Im definitely worried about lack of dev support on at&t version that alone may push me to the unlocked version.
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How long have you been with ATT? Are you happy with them and pretty sure you will stay with them? If so, wait for the ATT version and get it on contract. You could always sell it and put the profit to any phone you want. The GNote blows the GNex out of the water spec wise and user wise. Once the GNote gets ICS the GNex will be left further behind. The GNote is Samsung's flagship product!
I have the International GNote and love it. I would not sell mine, but I might sell the skyrocket and get the ATT version GNote with no commitment pricing to have an LTE version...I switch between my GNote and skyrocket and my skyrocket has not been getting much love or use lately!
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I've been with them for about 3 years, have a family plan with a corporate discount and I have the unlimited data plan which has recently been scammed into 2gb throttling so I am pretty disgusted with at&t for that, but I do get ok service most places with them.
I believe you on the gnote specs being better than the gnex specs, and this skyrocket hd that is suppose to be at&t's version of the gnex has touchwiz and gingerbread? No ICS? No way I'm falling for that. I rather have the gnote. Also as I mentioned about the unlimited data throttling they are now doing, even if I had full lte service everywhere I'd think I'd run into throttling faster than usual.
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I dont care much about lte because its not covered everywhere I go, and Im a bit worried about failure. Any recommend online vendors where I could purchase an international version from?
Im definitely worried about lack of dev support on at&t version that alone may push me to the unlocked version.
I've been with them for about 3 years, have a family plan with a corporate discount and I have the unlimited data plan which has recently been scammed into 2gb throttling so I am pretty disgusted with at&t for that, but I do get ok service most places with them.
I believe you on the gnote specs being better than the gnex specs, and this skyrocket hd that is suppose to be at&t's version of the gnex has touchwiz and gingerbread? No ICS? No way I'm falling for that. I rather have the gnote. Also as I mentioned about the unlimited data throttling they are now doing, even if I had full lte service everywhere I'd think I'd run into throttling faster than usual.
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LTE is the ONLY reason why I would even consider AT&T version compared to international but since they have ruined it with throttling, I don't think that is a valid reason anymore. What's the point of getting LTE device when you can't even use it properly.
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How long have you been with ATT? Are you happy with them and pretty sure you will stay with them? If so, wait for the ATT version and get it on contract. You could always sell it and put the profit to any phone you want. The GNote blows the GNex out of the water spec wise and user wise. Once the GNote gets ICS the GNex will be left further behind. The GNote is Samsung's flagship product!
I have the International GNote and love it. I would not sell mine, but I might sell the skyrocket and get the ATT version GNote with no commitment pricing to have an LTE version...I switch between my GNote and skyrocket and my skyrocket has not been getting much love or use lately!
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Our int'l Notes dominate the Gnexus spec wise. The USA note will have the snapdragon. One of the worst and laggiest SoC's.
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expansys-usa is where I bought mine. $689 then found a $20 off coupon code. It ships out of Chicago and got to me in 2 days. Free shipping.
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LTE is the ONLY reason why I would even consider AT&T version compared to international but since they have ruined it with throttling, I don't think that is a valid reason anymore. What's the point of getting LTE device when you can't even use it properly.
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Are you experiencing throttling as well?
Can you recommend dependable online vendors for the international gnote? Like fast delivery, low failure rate, great rep etc..
Skyrocket HD is not AT&T version of Galaxy Nexus. Any Nexus phone means update directly from Google, not Samsung. That's the major difference. Otherwise, the two are close but the CPU on SR HD is weaker.
If you going to buy international version, make sure you understand that you get zero warranty from Samsung USA. So, you potentially could have $600+ down the drain.
AVOID CARRIER BRANDED DEVICES LIKE THE PLAGUE!! DO NOT BUY AT&T!!
I did the same - expansys $689 w/$20 off coupon, free ship. I checked with expansys and they give you a 2 yr samsung Eu warranty ( must ship through them to EU to fix). Good deal and I would rather have the international unlocked, unbloated note - mainly so when I read all that devs do for it on this site, I can take advantage and not be pissed off I have some crapware AT&T version. Remember if there is a diff cpu - you get none of the dev support - basically it isn't a note anymore (MHO).
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AVOID CARRIER BRANDED DEVICES LIKE THE PLAGUE!! DO NOT BUY AT&T!!
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Nice write up, but not everyone can afford unlocked devices so its pretty tough. Luckily I've been saving up for a new device.
I just cant believe that at&t's gnote is completely different from the unlocked version. The purposely cripple their devices?
Ok where are these coupons you guys speak of?
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Nice write up, but not everyone can afford unlocked devices so its pretty tough. Luckily I've been saving up for a new device.
I just cant believe that at&t's gnote is completely different from the unlocked version. The purposely cripple their devices?
Ok where are these coupons you guys speak of?
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$20 off $500 or more.
Code: 20OFFLS
Thanks I'll try them although I remember hearing Expansys doesnt pick up their phone? So I hope all goes well with an online purchase.
Buy the subsidized iphone and unlock it. sell on ebay and buy the intl note.
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I ordered an unlocked note and will arrive tomorrow. I'm so excited to have it. But then I saw that AT&T will release LTE version on February 18. Should I return it and wait? This is killing me. Unlocked version has so many development minus the LTE.
You should read the other 1000 threads.
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Well, the LTE version will have NFC and of course.. LTE, but it's a Qualcomm device. The international version doesn't have LTE or NFC, but it has Exynos and the GPU is a Mali-400, which is fast.
But it's your choice..!
Screw it, I'm sticking with international model.
I had the same decision to make. Concider this:
Unless ATT has really good coverage for LTE in your area, the LTE advantage is moot. I have LTE where I live in Baltimore, but it very very spotty and does not reach to my home or work. H+ is very satisfying.
LTE will make the Note's battery seam like just another Android Battery(It will SUCK).
The CPU is slower over all in the ATT version.
You don't get the physical button, which is very very nice since the power button on the side is a pain to find quickly/with no hassle for waking the device up.
Where did it say NFC would be included? I don't remember that being said.
I had the same dilemma, but the concern over a lack of warranty on an international phone scared me off, even though I'd like one.
My guess is you will get less battery life due to LTE and lower performance.
The Galaxy S 2 with Exynos 1.2ghz is said to be faster than the Note because of lower resolution. The Note can handle 720p mkv videos at high bitrates.
The Galaxy S 2 T-Mobile with Qualcomm S3 can't handle even play quality MKV even overclocked to 1.8ghz. Now the same package is put into a 720p screen where it will struggle even more. Especially the fact that the Mali 400MP gpu is very fast and just managed Mordern Combat 3 smoothly at 720p, the Adreno 220 might not play 3d games as smoothly benchmark. I have a feeling there will be more complains about the Note performance in America.
Also I did benchmarks on with S3 at 1.8ghz vs Exynos and the latter destroyed the former.
The T mobile GSII which has the same processor as the ATT version was found to be laggy compared to the 1.2GHz Exynos on the international GSII, along with a bunch more screen issues etc. It also had inferior battery life.
I think the qualcomm 1.5GHz, unless it's a newer model of processor than the T mobile GSII, will be horrible on the SGH i717. The exynos is clocked .2Ghz higher on the Gnote and is already laggy at times. Imagine the same processor at the same clockspeed, no dedicated GPU on a much bigger screen pushing way more pixels. Ouch
I have the international gnote on a certain MVNO and I love it. 60 dollars a month cheaper than the ATT plan, and I get between 1-4Mbps download, I've seen people getting 7, I guess it depends on area. All things included, the international version came out a few hundred cheaper than the ATT version with the same plan.
Also, notice that the ATT GSII hasn't even gotten a port of CM9 yet, so that's the difference in the level of support one might get.
Then again, to be fair, supposedly the company I bought the note from (clove.co.uk) would send my gnote out for service if it needed it.
How that would work out, or how long it would take, we can only guess.
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I had the same decision to make. Concider this:
Unless ATT has really good coverage for LTE in your area, the LTE advantage is moot. I have LTE where I live in Baltimore, but it very very spotty and does not reach to my home or work. H+ is very satisfying.
LTE will make the Note's battery seam like just another Android Battery(It will SUCK).
The CPU is slower over all in the ATT version.
You don't get the physical button, which is very very nice since the power button on the side is a pain to find quickly/with no hassle for waking the device up.
Where did it say NFC would be included? I don't remember that being said.
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reinbeau, your moderator, does not like to read negative things about the At&t Note LTE, because she wants to buy one.
You are not supposed to write anything negative about the At&t Note LTE here!
The At&t Note LTE is not slow, 10 frames per second are super fast and should be enough for you!
Listen to reinbeau, your moderator!
I'm soooo tempted... I'm also worried about AT&T screwing us over with something. There are some less expensive options then where you ordered, but I'm still so paranoid about lack of warranty. I wonder how much an out-of-contract US Note will be if the rumor is 299 with contract... Probably 500-600?
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The T mobile GSII which has the same processor as the ATT version was found to be laggy compared to the 1.2GHz Exynos on the international GSII, along with a bunch more screen issues etc. It also had inferior battery life.
I think the qualcomm 1.5GHz, unless it's a newer model of processor than the T mobile GSII, will be horrible on the SGH i717. The exynos is clocked .2Ghz higher on the Gnote and is already laggy at times. Imagine the same processor at the same clockspeed, no dedicated GPU on a much bigger screen pushing way more pixels. Ouch
I have the international gnote on a certain MVNO and I love it. 60 dollars a month cheaper than the ATT plan, and I get between 1-4Mbps download, I've seen people getting 7, I guess it depends on area. All things included, the international version came out a few hundred cheaper than the ATT version with the same plan.
Also, notice that the ATT GSII hasn't even gotten a port of CM9 yet, so that's the difference in the level of support one might get.
Then again, to be fair, supposedly the company I bought the note from (clove.co.uk) would send my gnote out for service if it needed it.
How that would work out, or how long it would take, we can only guess.
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Thank you for the insight. I'm not sure how LTE is in Washington dc and I didn't know LTE version will have NFC. Can anyone confirm the source?
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I had the same decision to make. Concider this:
Unless ATT has really good coverage for LTE in your area, the LTE advantage is moot. I have LTE where I live in Baltimore, but it very very spotty and does not reach to my home or work. H+ is very satisfying.
LTE will make the Note's battery seam like just another Android Battery(It will SUCK).
The CPU is slower over all in the ATT version.
You don't get the physical button, which is very very nice since the power button on the side is a pain to find quickly/with no hassle for waking the device up.
Where did it say NFC would be included? I don't remember that being said.
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I'm soooo tempted... I'm also worried about AT&T screwing us over with something. There are some less expensive options then where you ordered, but I'm still so paranoid about lack of warranty. I wonder how much an out-of-contract US Note will be if the rumor is 299 with contract... Probably 500-600?
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I ordered mine from Expansys. They said it has 24 months warranty. Hope it easy to get it fix if something went wrong.
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I had the same dilemma, but the concern over a lack of warranty on an international phone scared me off, even though I'd like one.
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Did they give you specifics though? I've read a lot of stories where Samsung has told people they flat out refuse to provide warranty support to international phones in the US?
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I ordered mine from Expansys. They said it has 24 months warranty. Hope it easy to get it fix if something went wrong.
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vjoom said:
I ordered mine from Expansys. They said it has 24 months warranty. Hope it easy to get it fix if something went wrong.
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Expansys is a big international company.
They are expensive.
Send it to Expansys and they will send it out for repair. I imagine it will take a while to get it back from repair.
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Did they give you specifics though? I've read a lot of stories where Samsung has told people they flat out refuse to provide warranty support to international phones in the US?
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Expansys was cheaper then Amazon when i bought it. found $20 off coupon on this forum.
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Expansys is a big international company.
They are expensive.
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Oh, interesting! Do they have offices in the US? And is the warranty included in the price of the device, or is it extra? Also, anyone still have that $20 off coupon floating around?
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Send it to Expansys and they will send it out for repair. I imagine it will take a while to get it back from repair.
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They send it out to Europe for warranty repair. The warranty is included with the price of the phone. Nothing extra. The offer code is 20Offls.
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Oh, interesting! Do they have offices in the US? And is the warranty included in the price of the device, or is it extra? Also, anyone still have that $20 off coupon floating around?
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Thanks very much vjoom!
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They send it out to Europe for warranty repair. The warranty is included with the price of the phone. Nothing extra. The offer code is 20Offls.
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http://www.bell.ca/Mobility/Product...msung_Galaxy_Note_Branded_Kw=bell_galaxy_note
This is NOT the N7000, correct?
ALL LTE Notes are Snapdragon based. There is no way around.
Is the snap dragon really that lame? I mean unless in gaming i doubt anyone can tell the difference...
I guess the next question is, with the i717 coming to North America, what will the development be like for that device?
Do carriers do this on purpose - do they not realize that a smartphone is a computer with special io? That with something as complex as a computer - we want standards - so we can upgrade, fix, build-upon, write instructions for, build a community around, and understand our systems. We needed one note, not 15 variants - that works for toasters but not for mobile computer systems. I am in Canada but bought a international Note for this reason.
At some point you would hope this hold on tech by the carriers goes down. I ask my students, would they buy a BMW at a much reduced rate ( rather than just taking out a loan and owning it) if they signed a contract where they were forced to buy brand expensive gas for it from one station, could on drive it on certain highways - all with tolls, that others with that car and those highways all had different deals where some were being charged differently, others could on be on the highway at night, where the company was allow to change the engine, take out components, rebrand the color and name and logo, put on cheaper tires and put in devices to spy on you. Of course not.
Always wondered why the carriers are so controlling in NA. Look how many variants of the S and S2 there were?
How come this does not apply to Apple? is it because the carriers believe it to be so drool worthy to not bother with an iPhone 4S Fascinate or whatever, or Apple simply says you want that stuff you.
In EU, there is one Note, 1 S, 1 S2, works across the whole place, base code is the same aside from languages, etc.
Is it the carriers, is it a cultural thing, or something else?
Cheer,
This is exactly what Steve Jobs meant by fragmentation. Why do we need so many variants? Why do we have so many versions of Android firmware? So many versions that no one can even tell how one is different than another.
What a **** thing to do to such a sweet device.....Crapdragon should be done away with period.....this is old tech that even their newest version does stray from its roots. But with the longevity of a phones life at this point I don't think anyone gives a crap anymore. Samsung sure has a way of beating down great devices though.
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Is the snap dragon really that lame? I mean unless in gaming i doubt anyone can tell the difference...
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Not really, but when you want the most powerful phone on the market and you get the slower version instead, i understand why people are "pissed". You want THE Note and not the retarded cousin.
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Always wondered why the carriers are so controlling in NA. Look how many variants of the S and S2 there were?
How come this does not apply to Apple? is it because the carriers believe it to be so drool worthy to not bother with an iPhone 4S Fascinate or whatever, or Apple simply says you want that stuff you.
In EU, there is one Note, 1 S, 1 S2, works across the whole place, base code is the same aside from languages, etc.
Is it the carriers, is it a cultural thing, or something else?
Cheer,
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People in the USA want CHEAP, so the carriers figured out a way to lock
them in (cut down the churn rate), and offer them a "good deal". People
see the price of a phone as 500 bucks....BBBBUUUUUUTTTTTT, if you sign
a 2 year contract, we'll let you have it for 49.99. Idiot consumers, who have
no idea of economics, think they are screwing the carriers by getting a phone
for 50 bucks not thinking that if it was a bad deal for the carriers, why would
they do it....similar to people thinking they can go go Vegas & clean up, not
thinking how those multimillion dollar hotels get built & how they can offer the
food, drinks, rooms for free or reduced rates.
p51d007 said:
People in the USA want CHEAP, so the carriers figured out a way to lock
them in (cut down the churn rate), and offer them a "good deal". People
see the price of a phone as 500 bucks....BBBBUUUUUUTTTTTT, if you sign
a 2 year contract, we'll let you have it for 49.99. Idiot consumers, who have
no idea of economics, think they are screwing the carriers by getting a phone
for 50 bucks not thinking that if it was a bad deal for the carriers, why would
they do it....similar to people thinking they can go go Vegas & clean up, not
thinking how those multimillion dollar hotels get built & how they can offer the
food, drinks, rooms for free or reduced rates.
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I'm not sure this has anything to do with a subsidized pricing....and more to do with the fact that LTE and Snapdragon are work together with no problems.....I have read that the Exynos does fine with LTE but at this point all the high end LTE phones are getting it. Maybe there is a reason that the processor/network pairing is becoming redundant.
As far as subsidized phones the AT&T SGS2 is essentially the same device as the international....and 200 subsidized.....549 to buy it outright is not exactly a drop in the bucket for some and higher end devices on Verizon are now 300 subsidized. Also the other networks that got lower end versions did so to accommodate their network. Not saying your theory is wrong.....but I'm not convinced its about the cost as much as I am about the fact that each carrier in the US wants their own version of everything....and to the general public there isn't even a difference as long as the names the same. Look at the first round of Galaxy phones.
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ACTUALLY the adrenno 220 which is in the s3 chipset is just slightly better than the Mali 400 which is In the exynos chipset.
Technically gaming should and probably will be better. Daily operation will also most likely be the same. Only thing I could see being a potential problem is 1080p playback.
You guys have to remember Samsung does the best optimazation with any soc.
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ACTUALLY the adrenno 220 which is in the s3 chipset is just slightly better than the Mali 400 which is In the exynos chipset.
Technically gaming should and probably will be better. Daily operation will also most likely be the same. Only thing I could see being a potential problem is 1080p playback.
You guys have to remember Samsung does the best optimazation with any soc.
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This has been discussed to great length and I don't believe anyone agreed that the Adrenno was actually "better"....in fact I think spec wise they each do different things well.....but I don't even want to entertain another debate. I am not a fan of anything Qualcomm....weaknesses always seem to show themselves shortly after owning them.....the Exynos seems to get better with age.
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Heres my bottom line: exynos is great, s3 is good. So fwiw I don't think calling any variation of the Gnote crap is fair.
It seems to me also my dhd runs great on its s2 chip to this day. Just saying.
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This has been discussed to great length and I don't believe anyone agreed that the Adrenno was actually "better"....in fact I think spec wise they each do different things well.....but I don't even want to entertain another debate. I am not a fan of anything Qualcomm....weaknesses always seem to show themselves shortly after owning them.....the Exynos seems to get better with age.
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Any link to that debate? I would like to read about it..
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reason for north america's note being different is the exynos cpu doesnt do LTE *next gen is said to support LTE though*
therefor they had to change it up because carriers here are boner hungry over LTE lately.
ill keep my n7000.
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Any link to that debate? I would like to read about it..
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Here ya go....its a typical case of benchmark vs. real world.....Adrenno wins then Mali more powerful....then read Anandtechs review that says the Mali is the most powerful beast ever.....and then they list a bunch of weaknesses....??????.....but keep reading because then they start saying its untouchable again....then if your still thirsty just start clicking every link you come across....nothing is one sided....other than benchmarks that are said not to matter for both phones...?????....I will find more links and update....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1085149
http://androidandme.com/2011/09/devices/galaxy-s-ii-mali-400-gpu-boasts-fastest-graphics-on-the-market/
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/18/atandt-confirms-htc-one-x-to-land-may-6th/#continued
Not close - won't fit in a normal pocket, 56% larger based on overall measurements, weighs 36% more, non-replaceable battery. Fail as Aria replacement. May be a great phone, but much too large.
Wouldn't the HTC One V be a more suitable replacement?
With the X, you might as well be carrying around a tablet in your pocket.
I wasn't talking about it being a similar phone, ha. Just a phone that I like enough to replace the aria. Probably should have clarified
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On one hand, I think I'm eligible for an upgrade in late May, but as nice as the One X looks I can't justify buying it, given how crippled it is compared to the international version. Half the internal memory (even if all 16GB were free it wouldn't hold my music collection) and a dual-core Snapdragon instead of a quad-core Tegra 3. LTE doesn't matter too much to me, since we don't even have 3G around where I live, and the college I go to has campus-wide WiFi and city-wide WiMAX for the laptops.
The X seems way to big as a phone for me. It definitely has some powa! I've had the aria for almost a year and a half now and I'm so use to having a small phone. I have to wait till next January for next grade. ouch hopefully a quad core sized aria will be made.
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On one hand, I think I'm eligible for an upgrade in late May, but as nice as the One X looks I can't justify buying it, given how crippled it is compared to the international version. Half the internal memory (even if all 16GB were free it wouldn't hold my music collection) and a dual-core Snapdragon instead of a quad-core Tegra 3. LTE doesn't matter too much to me, since we don't even have 3G around where I live, and the college I go to has campus-wide WiFi and city-wide WiMAX for the laptops.
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I'd prefer the dual-core Snapdragon over the quad-core Tegra 3. More cores does not always mean better.
Ive used the Note for some time so I think Ill be able to adjust xD. I think its probably my next upgrade. Either this or the new SGS3.
I had the oppurtunity to play with the one x at my local att store today they let have a sneak peak at it before it goes on display tomorrow and I have to say for being 4.7 screen it was surprisingly comfortable in my hand and fit quite easily into my pocket almost less noticeable then my aria. Its unlike any HTC phone before very light and thin. The screen was stunning and it was fast and smooth. I'm pretty much sold on this phone unless the may 3rd announcement in London about the details of the new sg3 is truly note worthy I'll be picking the one x up. As far as the quad vs the dual debate goes I've following a thread where an xda member has quad and just received the rogers one x which will be the same as the att version and in just about every bench mark he has done the duel core out performed the quad. He also felt that the duel just seems better in real world use.
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On one hand, I think I'm eligible for an upgrade in late May, but as nice as the One X looks I can't justify buying it, given how crippled it is compared to the international version. Half the internal memory (even if all 16GB were free it wouldn't hold my music collection) and a dual-core Snapdragon instead of a quad-core Tegra 3. LTE doesn't matter too much to me, since we don't even have 3G around where I live, and the college I go to has campus-wide WiFi and city-wide WiMAX for the laptops.
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The s4 outperforms the tegra 3 in almost every test. Its not the number of cores but the architecture that counts.
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And for $199, It's a steal! I'd be a fool not to get it. I have been due for an upgrade since this month. I am 100% sold on this phone. I try not to think about it though because my nerves get the best of me. It's so long until the sixth!
Perfect time too because the Aria is really starting to show its age. Once I upgrade, the Aria will be a dedicated GPS.
Yea the $199 is def a great price for this beast
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Just pre-ordered this baby this morning! Will arrive at my doorstep on the fourth! The Aria forums are a wonderful community, and I can only hope that the One X forums are even half as friendly!
Saw an article today saying there was a promotion at AT&T to get it for $149. I definitely agree that the dual-core is better for "real world" use over the Tegra 3.
Unfortunately for AT&T and HTC, I am going to be switching to Verizon when the SGS3 comes out, unless it is just a complete bust, which I really don't see happening. Verizon has a far more widespread LTE network and much better customer service. I think it's funny how AT&T advertises that their LTE network is faster, but fails to mention that there are far fewer LTE users on their network than Verizon. If AT&T had the LTE traffic that Verizon does, there is no way they would have faster speeds. *steps down from soap box*
Edit: Throwing this out there...I bet the SGS3 gets root and full CM9 support in less time from its release date than the One X. Any takers?
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Saw an article today saying there was a promotion at AT&T to get it for $149. I definitely agree that the dual-core is better for "real world" use over the Tegra 3.
Unfortunately for AT&T and HTC, I am going to be switching to Verizon when the SGS3 comes out, unless it is just a complete bust, which I really don't see happening. Verizon has a far more widespread LTE network and much better customer service. I think it's funny how AT&T advertises that their LTE network is faster, but fails to mention that there are far fewer LTE users on their network than Verizon. If AT&T had the LTE traffic that Verizon does, there is no way they would have faster speeds. *steps down from soap box*
Edit: Throwing this out there...I bet the SGS3 gets root and full CM9 support in less time from its release date than the One X. Any takers?
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Oh no doubt! SGS has quite a following! And I would totally be on that boat, however I am not about to wait around for six months for the phone.
I have an sgs2 skyrocket but am eyeing that one x very hard. I miss the build quality of hTc. Samsung just doesn't feel as good in the hand.
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I have an sgs2 skyrocket but am eyeing that one x very hard. I miss the build quality of hTc. Samsung just doesn't feel as good in the hand.
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HTC Build quality is def top notch. Sammy phones have thin plastic, but that wouldn't bother me as I will always use a case...so it wouldn't feel too cheep.
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Oh no doubt! SGS has quite a following! And I would totally be on that boat, however I am not about to wait around for six months for the phone.
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You really think it will be 6 months from now until carriers offer it? I was thinking it would become available in June sometime.
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You really think it will be 6 months from now until carriers offer it? I was thinking it would become available in June sometime.
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Well, that is what happened with the SGSII
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Well, that is what happened with the SGSII
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+1 October to November release probably.
Hey, just wanted to let everyone know I am currently working on trying to build CM12 for the P900, if anyone has any experience I would love all the help! As soon as I get something built together and slightly functioning, I will post!
Sweet!
DexterFichuk said:
Hey, just wanted to let everyone know I am currently working on trying to build CM12 for the P900, if anyone has any experience I would love all the help! As soon as I get something built together and slightly functioning, I will post!
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That sounds great,
Good Luck
wow
good luck bro
Good luck!
Excellent news! Any chance the P905 will follow after?
so happy to see the word "Lollipop" mentioned regarding the Note Pro!
I am very excited about the Lollipop era and i am searching the forum daily for news regarding it.
I am a OnePlus One owner who is amazed about all the brilliant developers that are engaged in building more and more ROMs for the device and I am very thrilled that there is already a CM12 (pre-alpha) build for the OPO.
I wish you good luck @DexterFichuk and TIA.
It's known to me that I can't compare the development team in such different device and market and that's even more of a reason why i wanted to thank a single thread from one developer.
Every single new development for our big tablet will be a blessing
Thank's again @DexterFichuk and I hope you will get all the help you need from our small community :highfive:
DexterFichuk said:
Hey, just wanted to let everyone know I am currently working on trying to build CM12 for the P900, if anyone has any experience I would love all the help! As soon as I get something built together and slightly functioning, I will post!
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This is great news indeed. Keep us posted and me know if I can help in any way! CM12 on this Tab will rock!
I'm very surprised there is no official port for galaxy note pro 12.2 from Cyanogen. it's still a Samsung high-end tablet..
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I'm very surprised there is no official port for galaxy note pro 12.2 from Cyanogen. it's still a Samsung high-end tablet..
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Me too. Guess the people that buy this use stock touchwiz and are happy. Or cm11 (which is cool and fast).... but I hope for some love for cm12 someday soon ....
There is a working version for the p600. We could use that as base.
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Its an odd topic, sure, I'd live cm12 on this tablet, but losing the multi tasking features would be a set back. Omnirom has multitasking still in development which can be used, but they will never support another exynos based Samsung.
LP please. Once you go LP, you don't look back.
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LP please. Once you go LP, you don't look back.
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I agree. But needs be for the P905 LTE as well because quite frankly almost no one buys WiFi only tabs anymore. In fact where I live can't even buy the WiFi version.. they just don't sell it anymore..
VeEuzUKY said:
I agree. But needs be for the P905 LTE as well because quite frankly almost no one buys WiFi only tabs anymore. In fact where I live can't even buy the WiFi version.. they just don't sell it anymore..
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I have no idea where you are coming up with this, i'd argue the majority of tablets sold are in fact wifi only with most people tethering from their phone when they need internet on the go to avoid an additional monthly fee.
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I have no idea where you are coming up with this, i'd argue the majority of tablets sold are in fact wifi only with most people tethering from their phone when they need internet on the go to avoid an additional monthly fee.
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I am "coming up with this" from where I live, Hong Kong. No one buys WiFi only tablets here and no where to be found on sale, unless I go to eBay or resort to alternative ways to get one. Is that simple. And not to mention that the Snapdragon 800 is now an universal platform on HUNDREDS (let me correct that.. millions) of devices of all brands, shapes, sizes and forms worldwide, while the (specific) Exynos chip (and drastically comparatively underperforming) is used ONLY on a select number of Samsung devices. That's it.
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I am "coming up with this" from where I live, Hong Kong. No one buys WiFi only tablets here and no where to be found on sale, unless I go to eBay or resort to alternative ways to get one. Is that simple. And not to mention that the Snapdragon 800 is now an universal platform on HUNDREDS (let me correct that.. millions) of devices of all brands, shapes, sizes and forms worldwide, while the (specific) Exynos chip (and drastically comparatively underperforming) is used ONLY on a select number of Samsung devices. That's it.
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Yes and no.
HongKong is a very specific area that has always worked a bit different from the rest of the market.
It is, in fact, the other way around. Globally more wifi only tablets are sold. There are hundreds of markets where the LTE edition doesnt even reach the shops. (Netherlands is one of them, and we're a first world country. I had to buy my p905 in Germany.)
Add to that the fact that the LTE editions are 100-200 quid more expensive. Which is much, on a device that is already severely overpriced. (the P900 is 800 euro.) (Every device is overpriced in Europe.)
Most people tether. Many providers don't offer multiSIM, and they thus require a double subscription, with all the fees that go with it.
Now the fact that Snapdragon is much more popular is true.
The NotePro is the only Samsung device for which there is more developement for the Exynos than the Snapdragon. All other devices have the very clear 'You want developement, buy the Snapdragon' rule. But not the Note Pro.
And I can't figure out why, because the Exynos one is weaker, unstable and suffers from serious problems.
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Yes and no.
HongKong is a very specific area that has always worked a bit different from the rest of the market.
It is, in fact, the other way around. Globally more wifi only tablets are sold. There are hundreds of markets where the LTE edition doesnt even reach the shops. (Netherlands is one of them, and we're a first world country. I had to buy my p905 in Germany.)
Add to that the fact that the LTE editions are 100-200 quid more expensive. Which is much, on a device that is already severely overpriced. (the P900 is 800 euro.) (Every device is overpriced in Europe.)
Most people tether. Many providers don't offer multiSIM, and they thus require a double subscription, with all the fees that go with it.
Now the fact that Snapdragon is much more popular is true.
The NotePro is the only Samsung device for which there is more developement for the Exynos than the Snapdragon. All other devices have the very clear 'You want developement, buy the Snapdragon' rule. But not the Note Pro.
And I can't figure out why, because the Exynos one is weaker, unstable and suffers from serious problems.
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Thanks for the reply. I agree with you and understand. Its a shame Samsung continues with this stupid lifeline of making different models of the same product line with the different chips.. would be so much easier making all Snapdragon or all Exynos no matter if its the WiFi, 3G or LTE. Anyway.. it is rumored they will launch a larger (around 13") tablet soon to compete with the future larger Ipad/new MacBook Air/Surface. I hope its a one chip ONLY machine no matter the configuration, though probably not and we will have to deal with more variants again. I gotta tell you I am not a person that likes upgrades and can live perfectly with a older OS version as long as my apps work on the device.. CM 10 or 11 all good for me. But after trying lollipop on a friend's new phone, I have to admit its a major upgrade and Google did a really good job. At this point I dont even want to look back past having a unit with a future CM 12 on it
And you are also right on Hong Kong being a special market. The fact is here LTE is cheap as hell and everyone just uses it even more than WiFi. 3G is totally a thing of the past and so incredibly cheap if you want one is almost laughable.. in a good way. Unlimited 4G plans here are very inexpensive and mainstream. And indeed, as overpriced as the 12.2 Tab already is (most Samsung devices actually, reason for which their sales are plunging and other brands are taking over) the truth is when someone has the cash for the Tab, its not a few bucks more between the WiFi and the LTE that makes or breaks the purchase decision. There are almost NO MORE 3G units available for sale anywhere of any type of device and as prices keep falling for LTE plans and the price gap between WiFi and LTE units narrows, I think in the near future almost all devices are simply all LTE.. just as a few years ago 3G was an option and Bluetooth a luxury.. hell, I remember the first laptops with WiFi adapters built-in just 15 years ago and that was groundbreaking. I think devices without LTE radios built-in soon will be a thing of the past. In fact many devices sold here already are LTE-A compatible though few carriers still have that
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The NotePro is the only Samsung device for which there is more developement for the Exynos than the Snapdragon. All other devices have the very clear 'You want developement, buy the Snapdragon' rule. But not the Note Pro.
And I can't figure out why, because the Exynos one is weaker, unstable and suffers from serious problems.
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I'll tell you. First, there are almost no developers having Snapdragon version of NP. Why would they develop for device they don't have? Also this poll tells somehing about devices people here on XDA uses ----> Exynos dominates. So again, they develop for devices they and other users got.
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I'll tell you. First, there are almost no developers having Snapdragon version of NP. Why would they develop for device they don't have? Also this poll tells somehing about devices people here on XDA uses ----> Exynos dominate. So again, they develop for devices they and other users got.
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Got it! Well, I'm very happy to live in a part of the world, where everyone can afford unlimited LTE and have it for the price of a double expresso coffee in the other parts of the world where wifi "dominates". That's all I can say