Related
Just got my shift today, and so far I'm head over heels with it I know I can't give a legitimate review until I've had it for at least a few weeks, so I'll make sure to pop back in after I've had it for a bit. The only complain I have at this point is the volume button placement; I've been accidentally tapping it as I close the slider. I have found a solution though! Get in the habit of placing your thumb a bit more to the right while using the keybboard, OR moving one or both of your thumbs to the top and bottom of your phone before closing the slider.
Sent from my attic using a telegraph.
Glad to hear you're liking it so far! I've had mine for two days now and I'm proud to say I'm also head over heels.
I didn't think I'd be able to stand running Sense again, but it really flies on this phone. Volume placement doesn't bother me. Only thing that does is bloatware (man HTC really put a lot on this one!) Most of that is already gone, however.
I was looking around and it seems like there is no permanent root yet. Did you temp root and remove the bloatware? What are the downside to temp rooting over per rooting?
Sent from my attic using a telegraph.
Nmott93 said:
I was looking around and it seems like there is no permanent root yet. Did you temp root and remove the bloatware? What are the downside to temp rooting over per rooting?
Sent from my attic using a telegraph.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes I did.
The only downside I see is use of what root users deem necessary apps doesn't stick on reboot. Well, that and the obvious lack of rom selection.
S-Off is just a whole different game. I'm used to using fastboot commands, etc.
We'll see permaroot before too long and I'm sure we'll have great rom and theme selection after that.
Sorry for the stupid questions, but what exactly is a ROM? I'm still pretty new to the whole Android scene ;( S-off and Fastboot Commands as well
Sent from my attic using a telegraph.
Nmott93 said:
Sorry for the stupid questions, but what exactly is a ROM? I'm still pretty new to the whole Android scene ;( S-off and Fastboot Commands as well
Sent from my attic using a telegraph.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Think of a rom as a modified, sometimes heavily, version of the phone's operating system.
You'll see AOSP roms, that's Android the way Google meant it to be.
Sense roms, modified versions of HTC's releases.
I would give you a few great links but I'm on phone at the moment. I'll get them to ya a little later.
Haven't temp-rooted my shift because I thought I read that any bloatware you remove will come-back after re-boot. Can you comment?
smoothtaste said:
Yes I did.
The only downside I see is use of what root users deem necessary apps doesn't stick on reboot. Well, that and the obvious lack of rom selection.
S-Off is just a whole different game. I'm used to using fastboot commands, etc.
We'll see permaroot before too long and I'm sure we'll have great rom and theme selection after that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
geekdaddy said:
Haven't temp-rooted my shift because I thought I read that any bloatware you remove will come-back after re-boot. Can you comment?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've seen reports of both.
Everything that I have removed has stayed gone. I haven't rebooted, but my phone has dies, so that's essentially the same thing.
I'm waiting for perm root and some healthy ROM development before I go back to the Shift. I thought thse things were like roted within 2 weeks of thier release though?
@Nmott93 - I've gathered a small collection of links to better guide you through your questions than I myself can in words.
You'll notice most users in these forums are extremely helpful. I think the biggest pet peeve is when people ask questions that are all ready answered in the op. Don't worry about them though!
Permanent Root or Temporary. Which is for you?
Custom ROMs for Android Explained: Why you want them.
What S-Off Is and How To Gain It - Doesn't apply to our phones, yet, but great read.
AOSP: Android Open Source Project - Home Site, lots of information.
Cyanogen(mod) - The most popular non-stock rom on any phone that I've had, still, not for everyone.
I hope that these links are informational for you, and I've got plenty more saved away if you want anything else!
Jeez, thanks! I'll start reading through these when I get to work
Sent from my attic using a telegraph.
Hi all,
Really am new to all this. bought my DHD yesterday and the screen broke within hours, so after returning it for new one today i have a new phone again.
Few questions i would like to ask, that even after searching and doing some research i am still unsure of.
So.. i get my phone and it has alot of spam apps on it. in order for me to remove these i need to 'root' my device. i think i understand what that is, not 100% what i can do with it.
i wanted to ask.. if i were to update to gingerbread 2.3, would i have to root first, remove spam apps, then update or would that just put the apps back?
also a question about these ROMs ive seen people chatting about. Are these just similar to windows based themes? wall papers,annimations,sounds etc?
To sum up, i am looking to get rid of crappy apps and just browse around my (latest, aka gingerbread 2.3) stock software for a few weeks before installing a different theme or whatever they are.
Sorry if this seems simple, i have just switched from Apple Os which is so much more user friendly imo.
Thanks for any replies
I highly recommend getting a tpu case and screen protector before proceeding.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
pukemon said:
I highly recommend getting a tpu case and screen protector before proceeding.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a case now and that was the worst an most useless post I have ever seen.
Root and soff first. Install a custom 2.3 rom like leedroid or rcmix then all the spam will be gone. Follow the guides in the dev section.
Sent from my Motorola Startac running Atari 2600 software!
pwraggcan said:
Root and soff first. Install a custom 2.3 rom like leedroid or rcmix then all the spam will be gone. Follow the guides in the dev section.
Sent from my Motorola Startac running Atari 2600 software!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you.
Dowsett said:
i wanted to ask.. if i were to update to gingerbread 2.3, would i have to root first, remove spam apps, then update or would that just put the apps back?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I suggest you to root first then install a custom ROM.
Dowsett said:
also a question about these ROMs ive seen people chatting about. Are these just similar to windows based themes? wall papers,annimations,sounds etc?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Those are custom ROM, which developers uses stock ROM as base. They modified, customized and tweaked it, so it is much faster and more battery saving than stock ROM.
To flash a custom ROM, you can find guide in the development section.
Dowsett said:
Hi all,
Really am new to all this. bought my DHD yesterday and the screen broke within hours, so after returning it for new one today i have a new phone again.
Few questions i would like to ask, that even after searching and doing some research i am still unsure of.
So.. i get my phone and it has alot of spam apps on it. in order for me to remove these i need to 'root' my device. i think i understand what that is, not 100% what i can do with it.
i wanted to ask.. if i were to update to gingerbread 2.3, would i have to root first, remove spam apps, then update or would that just put the apps back?
also a question about these ROMs ive seen people chatting about. Are these just similar to windows based themes? wall papers,annimations,sounds etc?
To sum up, i am looking to get rid of crappy apps and just browse around my (latest, aka gingerbread 2.3) stock software for a few weeks before installing a different theme or whatever they are.
Sorry if this seems simple, i have just switched from Apple Os which is so much more user friendly imo.
Thanks for any replies
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Welcome to Android World! Here you will find all your answers related to your Android OS.
Since you have not rooted your device. It's hard to get rid of some the built in apps.
in simple words if you are not aware of this stuff > Rooting your phone means becoming an Administrator of your device, where you can do what you like, like full control on (PC.
Check this link for all the details you need.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936214
I highly recommend getting screen protector
pukemon said:
I highly recommend getting a tpu case and screen protector before proceeding.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
saimon05 said:
I highly recommend getting screen protector
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You two sir, are meanie.
But then, consider using the 2+ clear protector for the front and rear for maximum protection.
Meanie? I thought I it was good advice. If he wants to disregard our advice he is more than welcome to bust up his phone again. Kinda hard to flash stuff if your phone is broken.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
When I bought my DHD I was so into it I decided to make a personal website.
It has various rom screenshot examples, some videos and an up-to-date list of roms here at XDA. You can check it out via my sig.
I put it together with people like you in mind.
Maybe it can help or at least inspire you.
I try most roms and my current one is MIUI 1.8.26 V.2: FRESHLY SQUEEZED EDITION™ By MrGarak.
Screenshots of it are here.
Enjoy your DHD!
I still thoroughly enjoy mine.
pukemon said:
Meanie? I thought I it was good advice. If he wants to disregard our advice he is more than welcome to bust up his phone again. Kinda hard to flash stuff if your phone is broken.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I actually did agree with you @pukemon, and I support it 100%.
But this...
Dowsett said:
...the screen broke within hours...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So sad. Or maybe bad luck. Anyway, good luck unlocking your phone!
Hi there welcome to Android.
all that rooting isn't really obligatory, more of a fun thing to do actually. Most of the time ROM's from xda developers are better optimized and faster than the ones coming from HTC, but HTC aren't horrible developers.
For hiding crappy apps you could install an alternative launcher (i use GO Launcher EX) which allows you to hide certain apps. This way you'll never see them but the niceties of the Sense UI will be gone also (some of them). However Go Launcher is quite customizable.
and btw, this is the big thing with android, customization. You can change almost anything about it only sometimes needing root to do it.
It's a great OS and if iOS is friendly to noobs, Android is not as friendly (a bit of a learning curve but not steep) but it does let them show of a lot more.
I like many of you enjoy flashing custom roms, kernals themes etc and a big thanks to the devs and individuals for making it possible... Ive noticed lately im not really having any fun with my galaxy s2.
I seem to be in a mental bootloop of flashing apk's, tweaks and other little things to improve my toys userbility. cant seem to explore android market or other app markets for anything other than tweaks for this or add-ons to improve noise reduction blahblahblah its endless.
my phone out of the box stock was just brilliant and fun, now that ive rooted it, themed it and just made it to my everyday liking i cant be bothered to look for games or random apps that put a cheeky grin on my face anymore.
I know theres plenty out there to download i read about them in the forum all the time.
Is anyone else feeling like this not getting the fun out of it?
its my galaxy s2
sloanyboy said:
I like many of you enjoy flashing custom roms, kernals themes etc and a big thanks to the devs and individuals for making it possible... Ive noticed lately im not really having any fun with my galaxy s2.
I seem to be in a mental bootloop of flashing apk's, tweaks and other little things to improve my toys userbility. cant seem to explore android market or other app markets for anything other than tweaks for this or add-ons to improve noise reduction blahblahblah its endless.
my phone out of the box stock was just brilliant and fun, now that ive rooted it, themed it and just made it to my everyday liking i cant be bothered to look for games or random apps that put a cheeky grin on my face anymore.
I know theres plenty out there to download i read about them in the forum all the time.
Is anyone else feeling like this not getting the fun out of it?
its my galaxy s2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lols.... Anyone out there? hahahahaha.
Try cm9, you might stop flashing roms .
maybe a bit too early for the veteran modders to reply yet lol
THIS IS MY SIGNATURE
My phone is not a toy its a working tool .
fun phone
i would say get a life .
Yours is a toy and kids get bored quickly play with the box it came in instead .
jje
JJEgan said:
My phone is not a toy its a working tool .
fun phone
i would say get a life .
Yours is a toy and kids get bored quickly play with the box it came in instead .
jje
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same here..My phone is my working swiss knife
fair comment on the toy/tool remarks im a grown man my kids can play with the box.
just meant for the thread in a relaxed manner when im not emailing and using it for work related situations. i read so many sarcastic comments on various threads just thought a little humour would lighten up a complex forum such as this. we are here to help each other when it comes down to it.
il flash cm9 for a daily when its a bit more stable to my own satisfaction nice rom bit laggy/buggy for me at the mo
oh yeah as stated with the sarcastic remarks you have only focused on the fact i called it a toy not a tool/phone whatever it didnt really answer the question i was asking, id say a majority of gs2 owners dont use it for its full potential
but my reply isnt to defend what context i have written and what i refer my phone to. the quesion is for people who dont take it too seriously as a smartphone and just want to have a bit of fun with it wether it be for music or games .....
THIS IS MY SIGNATURE
sloanyboy said:
I like many of you enjoy flashing custom roms, kernals themes etc and a big thanks to the devs and individuals for making it possible... Ive noticed lately im not really having any fun with my galaxy s2.
I seem to be in a mental bootloop of flashing apk's, tweaks and other little things to improve my toys userbility. cant seem to explore android market or other app markets for anything other than tweaks for this or add-ons to improve noise reduction blahblahblah its endless.
my phone out of the box stock was just brilliant and fun, now that ive rooted it, themed it and just made it to my everyday liking i cant be bothered to look for games or random apps that put a cheeky grin on my face anymore.
I know theres plenty out there to download i read about them in the forum all the time.
Is anyone else feeling like this not getting the fun out of it?
its my galaxy s2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same feelings here.
So I've just stopped with this whole **** and came back to the stock firmware. Now I'm just waiting for the first official release of ICS.
Regards.
Same for me. But my problem at the moment is that I have hit the perfect setup. It simply works exactly like I want it to, so there's no point in trying to improve it.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
JJEgan said:
play with the box it came in instead .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hahaha thats funny....
Part of the appeal of getting a new phone is setting it up and exploring whats new.
I think thats what sucks people into flashing so much.
From what ive seen most changes/roms are bugger all and the hype isn't justified and in the end it's a phone, goes into your pocket and you get on with your life.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
aceofclubs said:
Hahaha thats funny....
Part of the appeal of getting a new phone is setting it up and exploring whats new.
I think thats what sucks people into flashing so much.
From what ive seen most changes/roms are bugger all and the hype isn't justified and in the end it's a phone, goes into your pocket and you get on with your life.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yup, I tend to agree. I just spent most of the day setting up a Motorola Defy for a relative. It took me about 10 minutes to do what would have taken him weeks of reading (and he's a techie guy, just not up to speed with android).
Now running CM7 with root and stuff, it just doesn't need touched. I put on a self-build of it, and that will probably last him 2 years or something! Maybe I'll pop ICS/CM9 on it when the time comes, but it's a set and forget
I see my own phone a bit like that - I tend to build a ROM, test for a few days, perhaps release, then run it for 3 months or more
Ways to solve it
I had bootloops on my phone, a couple of days ago, and have tried several other methods to resolve the problem, but to no avail (for example, taking out the battery and letting it cool for a couple of minutes). If you have made backups using Nandroid backup, you should be able to restore your phone. If not, you will have to flash a stock kernel onto your phone and install a custom ROM after that. That's what I did since i did not have any backups made.
lol did you get the topic of this thread?
I've found that i can't find my "perfect setup" wen i start flashing roms as theirs always another one with something slightly better or more interesting that I need to try out or flash. At this current time the major temptation being ics. Which is what I'm currently running :L
I tried sticking on stock-ish firmware (checkrom) but its just to hard :/
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
Gnarfsan said:
Same for me. But my problem at the moment is that I have hit the perfect setup. It simply works exactly like I want it to, so there's no point in trying to improve it.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same here. I might switch to CM9 when its stable but so far I have my phone perfectly set up for my needs. So no need to tweak anything.
florexus said:
Lols.... Anyone out there? hahahahaha.
Try cm9, you might stop flashing roms .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not really.
Because there will always be the overwhelming majority that will think; "Oh, this CM9/AOKP is really neat, very customisable - but do I want video cam or not!?" - and then back and forth flashing ensues.
Note the OP
words used Toy and Fun .
Its a phone and a tool want fun watch the cartoons .
jje
JJEgan said:
Note the OP
words used Toy and Fun .
Its a phone and a tool want fun watch the cartoons .
jje
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
your point is exactly what, are you implying i cannot call my phone whatever i want without being picked up on it?
picky people like you spam threads without actually having anything in common with whats being discussed iv already answered the same idiot above why it was worded that way have a read it also mentions about sarcastic remarks, get a grip!
Tapped from a modded GS2
JJEgan said:
My phone is not a toy its a working tool .
fun phone
i would say get a life .
Yours is a toy and kids get bored quickly play with the box it came in instead .
jje
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL agree.
It's like a novelist using all his time dis-assampling / assampling his typewriter instead of writing novels
sloanyboy said:
your point is exactly what, are you implying i cannot call my phone whatever i want without being picked up on it?
picky people like you spam threads without actually having anything in common with whats being discussed iv already answered the same idiot above why it was worded that way have a read it also mentions about sarcastic remarks, get a grip!
Tapped from a modded GS2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
All i can say is Fun and Toy .
jje
re: endlesss booting
are you able to boot to safe mode debug mode or ne thing if so and you enjoyed the stock firmware download an insecure kernal to suit your version ittl be be xxk? and there are some as close to stock ones on here somewhere other than that my phone isnt rooted yet so leri havent been able to experiment with new ideas or solve ne of your problems other than y what i can do is recommend this as a fix and all the other usual gumf take battry out maybe even do a complete pik of thenthe innards and depower it alltogether discharge completely then reflash
Hello guys, i am thinking of changing my motorola razr maxx into galaxy s3 and i would like to ask if it stands up to the price?
Is it good phone or not?
And i found one used for 3-4 months by a guy and it is reasonably priced and still looks shiny (no scratches and stuff). So the question is what i should check before i hand over the money for the phone, so i don't get scammed by broken or in any other way ruined device?
TeddyOFLove said:
Hello guys, i am thinking of changing my motorola razr maxx into galaxy s3 and i would like to ask if it stands up to the price?
Is it good phone or not?
And i found one used for 3-4 months by a guy and it is reasonably priced and still looks shiny (no scratches and stuff). So the question is what i should check before i hand over the money for the phone, so i don't get scammed by broken or in any other way ruined device?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The S3 is an awesome phone, and well worth the price imo.
Some things to check before you buy it is the obvious, will it switch on, are there any signs of physical damage ect, but you should also check your own sim card in the phone, if for example the phone is stolen and has been reported to the network your sim will not work in the phone.
Give it a good check over to make sure everything works, all you can't really check is battery life, because that requires time. Also check under Settings > About Phone > Status, and check whether it says the system has been modified. Then switch it off, hold Vol down, home and power then press vol up at the prompt and check what the red writing says in the top corner, if it says Custom binary downloaded yes (xx counts) ask what they have flashed.
delsus said:
The S3 is an awesome phone, and well worth the price imo.
Some things to check before you buy it is the obvious, will it switch on, are there any signs of physical damage ect, but you should also check your own sim card in the phone, if for example the phone is stolen and has been reported to the network your sim will not work in the phone.
Give it a good check over to make sure everything works, all you can't really check is battery life, because that requires time. Also check under Settings > About Phone > Status, and check whether it says the system has been modified. Then switch it off, hold Vol down, home and power then press vol up at the prompt and check what the red writing says in the top corner, if it says Custom binary downloaded yes (xx counts) ask what they have flashed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the fast reply. But you mentioned if system have been modified to check it by holding Vol down, home and power then press vol up at the prompt. If system is modified what kind of impact on user experience could it have? For example: Will i be able to go back so stock or flash any rom i want or maybe it could limit me in some ways?
TeddyOFLove said:
Thanks for the fast reply. But you mentioned if system have been modified to check it by holding Vol down, home and power then press vol up at the prompt. If system is modified what kind of impact on user experience could it have? For example: Will i be able to go back so stock or flash any rom i want or maybe it could limit me in some ways?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can go to stock, and if it has been modified I would flash something if you choose to buy it because you have no idea what he has put on it, even if it's a reputable rom or kernel he could have some script in it, I know it's a little paranoid but it's better to be safe than sorry
Of course the battery life will not satisfy you if you come from RAZR maxx but it has the most longest (well at least longer than other competitors ) battery life. Oh and performance is voila . And the s4 is releasing up coming days. So that means s3 turns into cost/performance device. So you should definitely upgrade to s3
Btw if there is a mistake with my grammar or other stuff please ignore it
GT-I9300 cihazımdan Tapatalk 2 ile gönderildi
It is indeed a Power House with Custom ROM / Custom Kernel and Tweaking....
Give it a shot and u won't regret it....
Sent from my GT-I9300 (Hassan Khalid Malik) using xda premium
Thanks guys for your opinions, i will surely upgrade to s3, so it is good to know that it is a good device. The only thing left now is to find best offer :good: and not get scammed :highfive:.
One of you guys mentioned that switching from Razr Maxx will leave me sad i think i can handle it as long as it is better than that of xperia x10 or htc desire S that i owned (they were very bad at it). However maxx lost its touch to me couse of Unlockable Bootloader and all the security features that doesnt allow to root new Jellybean update..... Which sickens me as a ROM addict the most :laugh:, The main reason that i want to leave razr is actually that i upgraded to jellybean and lost root after keeping it with Voodoo ota rootkeeper so my device is now unrootable and it is worst thing that could happen to Android device
BTW which one in reality looks more awesome, the black or white colors on s3? Just asking couse i havent seen black one in person,i have seen only the white model.
TeddyOFLove said:
Thanks guys for your opinions, i will surely upgrade to s3, so it is good to know that it is a good device. The only thing left now is to find best offer :good: and not get scammed :highfive:.
One of you guys mentioned that switching from Razr Maxx will leave me sad i think i can handle it as long as it is better than that of xperia x10 or htc desire S that i owned (they were very bad at it). However maxx lost its touch to me couse of Unlockable Bootloader and all the security features that doesnt allow to root new Jellybean update..... Which sickens me as a ROM addict the most :laugh:, The main reason that i want to leave razr is actually that i upgraded to jellybean and lost root after keeping it with Voodoo ota rootkeeper so my device is now unrootable and it is worst thing that could happen to Android device
BTW which one in reality looks more awesome, the black or white colors on s3? Just asking couse i havent seen black one in person,i have seen only the white model.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://www.itproportal.com/2012/08/29/samsung-galaxy-s3-launched-in-4-new-colours/
Sent from my GT-I9300 (Hassan Khalid Malik) using xda premium
The white one is better. I have the pebble blue one and it got dust under the screen and it's very noticeable while on the white you can't see it.
For the battery just get the official 3000mah extended battery. I'm getting amazing battery life!
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
And I have a small suggestion - after you put your own sim-card make a phone call to somebody and check how you can hear the person and if the other person can hear you well.
Heh just got myself and S3 Got it for good price and its brand new :victory: , anyway thanks for suggestions guys :highfive:.
Any suggestions for roms kernels? BTW is it possible to unlock bootloader? and is there easy way to root or i will have to use ADB manually? <---- Mod Edit: Please don't turn this into a "Best ROM" thread or it will have to be shut down.
Heh just got myself and S3 Got it for good price and its brand new :victory: , anyway thanks for suggestions guys :highfive:. <br />
Any suggestions for roms kernels? BTW is it possible to unlock bootloader? and is there easy way to root or i will have to use ADB manually?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The bootloader is not locked.
Check the original development for cf auto root to root via Odin.
On the ROM side I personally like Ultima, slim bean and CM10.1 but check them yourself, see which sounds good to you, check the last 10 posts and try the ones that seem best for you.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
delsus said:
The rule he meant was the rule saying no best rom/kernel threads just asking can annoy people, but I'm not a **** like Glebun so I still try to help you
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well anyway, i have found this toolkit for s3 and rooted my device with installing custom recovery and installing root.zip. The tools seems very easy to use and has a lot of features aswell. However i am not in a hurry to unlock bootloader just yet. Maybe you know any debloated stock roms? Couse default one feels kinda slugish atm.
And BTW why there are two development sections? Shouldn't android development section be same as original development?
TeddyOFLove said:
Well anyway, i have found this toolkit for s3 and rooted my device with installing custom recovery and installing root.zip. The tools seems very easy to use and has a lot of features aswell. However i am not in a hurry to unlock bootloader just yet. Maybe you know any debloated stock roms? Couse default one feels kinda slugish atm.
And BTW why there are two development sections? Shouldn't android development section be same as original development?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As I said the S3 bootloader doesn't need unlocking, there are a few debloated stock roms, the ones I would reccomend are Omega, Wanamlite and Ultima all can be found in the Android Development.
There are two development sections, Origianal development is mainly for projects build from source or from scratch, for example the offcial CM threads are there, Slimbean is in there, there are also threads for the various kernels, but unofficial CM, AOKP etc ports and samsung based roms are in development because they are not original.
"Best ROM" threads are NOT against the rules. They do always however turn into pissing matches and ultimately flaming starts shortly after. That is why the are frowned upon and closed.
Rules #1 is Search. You can look in the Development section and see which one you think you might like. Then read the last 10 pages for bugs. If that it the one you like, then start at the OP and read, read, read.
Development is for developing something that is of a base ROM, (i.e. stick ROM base)
Original Development is for building from source (i.e. setting up a build environment on your PC and syncing repos).
Thread Cleaned
********************
I'd like to also mention Rule # 2.3
2.3 Flaming / Lack of respect: XDA is about sharing which does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) or rudeness. Flaming or posting with a lack of respect is not acceptable. Treat new members the way you would like to have been treated when you were a new member. When dealing with any member, provide them with guidance, advice and instruction when you can, showing respect and courtesy. Never post in a demanding, argumentative, disrespectful or self-righteous manner.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And Rule #10
10. Help others if you can.
If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Garreth88 said:
And I have a small suggestion - after you put your own sim-card make a phone call to somebody and check how you can hear the person and if the other person can hear you well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What it means? When I bought my phone I didn't hear the other person well. If the volume was more than half I didn't understand what they said. But now it ok. Can I ask you what you want to say?
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
I understand it will be out when its out, but I just migrated from iOS and I would always see postings from certain sites on when the next Jailbreak is coming. I am getting used to Android and I was wondering if anyone has heard anything and if not is this the best place to follow to find out?
There are already mf3 based roms...check the development section
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2
milkeeway said:
I understand it will be out when its out, but I just migrated from iOS and I would always see postings from certain sites on when the next Jailbreak is coming. I am getting used to Android and I was wondering if anyone has heard anything and if not is this the best place to follow to find out?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you are on the AT&T S4 that has been updated to MF3 we will have to wait until a bootloader exploit is found. There is NO ETA for this and it may take a while... maybe never. Just keep an eye on one of our many bootloader threads and pledge to pay the dev if you want to help motivate.
If you are on a custom rom and waiting for more keep an eye on the development section
mg2195 said:
There are already mf3 based roms...check the development section
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think the problem is that I purchased my GS4 and it came with MF3 pre-installed. Right now they have MDL Roms with MF3 features in it. Last I checked there was no way to flash custom Roms onto a phone that has MF3 on it!
milkeeway said:
I think the problem is that I purchased my GS4 and it came with MF3 pre-installed. Right now they have MDL Roms with MF3 features in it. Last I checked there was no way to flash custom Roms onto a phone that has MF3 on it!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
then see my post. Sucks but we are locked down
milkeeway said:
I think the problem is that I purchased my GS4 and it came with MF3 pre-installed. Right now they have MDL Roms with MF3 features in it. Last I checked there was no way to flash custom Roms onto a phone that has MF3 on it!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are correct, there is currently not a way to flash custom roms.
God promised man he'd put beautiful women in all corners of the world. Then he laughed and laughed and made the world round.
joshuadjohnson22 said:
If you are on the AT&T S4 that has been updated to MF3 we will have to wait until a bootloader exploit is found. There is NO ETA for this and it may take a while... maybe never. Just keep an eye on one of our many bootloader threads and pledge to pay the dev if you want to help motivate.
If you are on a custom rom and waiting for more keep an eye on the development section
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for that information. That is a bummer to hear the realistic possibility that it may never come. I guess I would be extremely bummed as rooting is the main reason I came to Android and bought the S4. I was naive in the sense I thought all S4 were the same. Little did I know there was so many variations. I even came to the forums before I bought it but everything seemed like a foreign language coming from iOS.
Any idea who I might be able to talk to to Pledge some cash to see that it gets worked on?
And also is there any way to see a MOD about this captcha restriction lol!
milkeeway said:
Thanks for that information. That is a bummer to hear the realistic possibility that it may never come. I guess I would be extremely bummed as rooting is the main reason I came to Android and bought the S4. I was naive in the sense I thought all S4 were the same. Little did I know there was so many variations. I even came to the forums before I bought it but everything seemed like a foreign language coming from iOS.
Any idea who I might be able to talk to to Pledge some cash to see that it gets worked on?
And also is there any way to see a MOD about this captcha restriction lol!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Now rooting is available, but this thread is to pledge http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2361870
You can always just buy the tmobile version, they don't have a locked bootloader so you can flash away. Just a thought
joshuadjohnson22 said:
Now rooting is available, but this thread is to pledge http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2361870
You can always just buy the tmobile version, they don't have a locked bootloader so you can flash away. Just a thought
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for all that info. I am an idiot honestly that's all that can be said. I should have done a little more research before I made a purchase. I traded my iPhone 5 with a little cash on top for a brand new Galaxy S4 on AT&T (My carrier) had I known all of this before I would have searched Craigslist for a T-Mobile version and then sim unlocked it for AT&T...
Guess I learned my lesson, I really wish I could afford to go buy a T-Mobile S4 too but they sell for like $500-$600 out of contract.... Just can't do it and I am stuck with AT&T right now. Meanwhile my buddy who told me I should buy an S4 is laughing his rooted and recovered ass off right now lol...
Good to hear rooting is available
soccer_rm said:
Good to hear rooting is available
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What can you do with a root if you are not able to install custom roms?
Is there anything I could do in the meantime that would improve the functionality or performance of my phone?
milkeeway said:
What can you do with a root if you are not able to install custom roms?
Is there anything I could do in the meantime that would improve the functionality or performance of my phone?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can install a lot of mods which will archive a lot of the same things as a custom rom. You can remove bloat, theme, add things... it is pretty awesome. See the development sections and the themes and app sections to see all the awesome stuff. Some people always stay with stock and just add mods
milkeeway said:
What can you do with a root if you are not able to install custom roms?
Is there anything I could do in the meantime that would improve the functionality or performance of my phone?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
joshuadjohnson22 said:
You can install a lot of mods which will archive a lot of the same things as a custom rom. You can remove bloat, theme, add things... it is pretty awesome. See the development sections and the themes and app sections to see all the awesome stuff. Some people always stay with stock and just add mods
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
...you can also do some serious damage, and without recovery, you can easily "Brick" your device... Please be careful what you remove/change/mod, as if you bootloop or fubar your current OS, you will NOT be able to Odin Back to stock to recover just yet...
removing some of the Samsung Apps will break things when they are removed, and TiBU can't always put them back... for now I just froze all the bloatware, and won't remove anything until there is a way to go "Back to Stock"
Hope this helps.
slyguy2000 said:
...you can also do some serious damage, and without recovery, you can easily "Brick" your device... Please be careful what you remove/change/mod, as if you bootloop or fubar your current OS, you will NOT be able to Odin Back to stock to recover just yet...
removing some of the Samsung Apps will break things when they are removed, and TiBU can't always put them back... for now I just froze all the bloatware, and won't remove anything until there is a way to go "Back to Stock"
Hope this helps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Those are very good points! No nandroids either. It's best not to mess with a lot of those areas unless you know what your doing.
God promised man he'd put beautiful women in all corners of the world. Then he laughed and laughed and made the world round.
slyguy2000 said:
...you can also do some serious damage, and without recovery, you can easily "Brick" your device... Please be careful what you remove/change/mod, as if you bootloop or fubar your current OS, you will NOT be able to Odin Back to stock to recover just yet...
removing some of the Samsung Apps will break things when they are removed, and TiBU can't always put them back... for now I just froze all the bloatware, and won't remove anything until there is a way to go "Back to Stock"
Hope this helps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, thanks for clarifying, I should also let the OP know I have the S4 Active which has the ability to ODIN back to stock if something goes wrong. I do not know if you will have that pleasure so think twice and read before trying anything
I have decided I probably won't take advantage of the root until I can safely make a recovery. I actually posted a $25.00 pledge (I know it isn't much) towards finding a fix for newer users of the S4. People who have to warranty their phones will likely have the update installed.
Crossing my fingers now.
Please read forum rules before posting
Questions and Help issues go in Q&A and Help section
Thread moved
Thank you for your cooperation
Friendly Neighborhood Moderator
And we do not ask for ETAs on XDA
This would be on hold for awhile until another bootloader fix surfaces, then you will see a whole bunch of MF3 custom roms.
milkeeway said:
I have decided I probably won't take advantage of the root until I can safely make a recovery. I actually posted a $25.00 pledge (I know it isn't much) towards finding a fix for newer users of the S4. People who have to warranty their phones will likely have the update installed. Crossing my fingers now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's probably a good choice and you can enjoy the S4 i337 without doing anything, it is a great phone.
Of course, rooting -basic rooting using the new technique for the MF3 rom-- seems to work well enough for many so far. So please don't view it as jumping off a cliff and hoping to find a vine on the way down or something so bleak.
For your model, which does not currently have as many recovery options as the earlier MDL versions, it certainly pays to be careful and also to understand your options for return or exchange if you do muck up the phone. The trick is to understand the specific risks up front. In this case, what can go wrong in the rooting process and how often does it seem to occur.
Read the XDA thread on this new rooting exploit for MF3 and see exactly what others did to get root without ruining their phone -and do only and exactly the steps that have worked for others. The rooting process takes only a couple of minutes --but so does bricking your phone when it rooting is done incorrectly.
The differences between success and failure are:
1. How much you understand of the procedure?
2. How much you have prepared in advance for what you are doing and trying to accomplish? and
3. How carefully and patiently are you doing each and every step of the process?
I've rooted several phones and tablets and been fortunate to get it right most of the time, or to be able to recover when I did not get it right. Unfortunately, in your case it appears that you need to get it right the first time for rooting, and many many folks have. So while this is very different from the iPhone "click on this site and you're jailbroken" approach, it is not low-percentage surgery either :good::good::fingers-crossed: So, I'd recommend that you continue to read up on that new root technique for MF3:
-- read to see how it is being accepted, what kind of feedback folks have and also
-- how safe/or comfortable folks seem to be in using it. and
-- what problems have come from trying it -bricks? soft bricks? recoverable or not?
I've read the original post (OP) on the exploit, but not all the information is in the one thread.. I am sure there are several threads that echo this development. . . Might have even more information too. After, that you will know if you want to try the rooting step. Or not.
Good Luck!
P.S.
- While root does not sound as valuable as being able to switch roms and use full customizations, it does provide quite a bit. For example: you can add (root-requiring) apps like "Titanium Backup" (which not only backsup all of your programs and data, but also can "freeze" programs that are useless and running in the background when you don't want them to do so!) Or Greenify, which has the same functionality for dealing with unwanted apps (better actually!) and apps like Cerberus to help you keep track of your phone or find it if lost.
- Rooting to add these types of add ons, without fiddling with some of the more invasive mods that others have already warned about in the other posts, may be acceptable middle ground for you -it does provide customizations for your phone without stretching the safe use limits very far.
Take your time. . . keep reading and move at your own pace. It's hard to come here, start reading and simply "get it" on first bounce. . .It's just a shame that your friend with the older S4 didn't provide a couple of hints or tips about which versions to by ("buy the red ones"... :laugh so you could have picked up one that is easily customizable. . .(of course if you are still in the 14 day window you might go back and try to exchange for another one and look for a MDL version -according to some posts they seem to be the red ones that no one wanted to buy early on . . . . hmm
Good Luck!
markbc01 said:
That's probably a good choice and you can enjoy the S4 i337 without doing anything, it is a great phone.
Of course, rooting -basic rooting my upgradeusing the new technique for the MF3 rom-- seems to work well enough for many so far. So please don't view it as jumping off a cliff and hoping to find a vine on the way down or something so bleak.
For your model, which does not currently have as many recovery options as the earlier MDL versions, it certainly pays to be careful and also to understand your options for return or exchange if you do muck up the phone. The trick is to understand the specific risks up front. In this case, what can go wrong in the rooting process and how often does it seem to occur.
Read the XDA thread on this new rooting exploit for MF3 and see exactly what others did to get root without ruining their phone -and do only and exactly the steps that have worked for others. The rooting process takes only a couple of minutes --but so does bricking your phone when it rooting is done incorrectly.
The differences between success and failure are:
1. How much you understand of the procedure?
2. How much you have prepared in advance for what you are doing and trying to accomplish? and
3. How carefully and patiently are you doing each and every step of the process?
I've rooted several phones and tablets and been fortunate to get it right most of the time, or to be able to recover when I did not get it right. Unfortunately, in your case it appears that you need to get it right the first time for rooting, and many many folks have. So while this is very different from the iPhone "click on this site and you're jailbroken" approach, it is not low-percentage surgery either :good::good::fingers-crossed: So, I'd recommend that you continue to read up on that new root technique for MF3:
-- read to see how it is being accepted, what kind of feedback folks have and also
-- how safe/or comfortable folks seem to be in using it. and
-- what problems have come from trying it -bricks? soft bricks? recoverable or not?
I've read the original post (OP) on the exploit, but not all the information is in the one thread.. I am sure there are several threads that echo this development. . . Might have even more information too. After, that you will know if you want to try the rooting step. Or not.
Good Luck!
P.S.
- While root does not sound as valuable as being able to switch roms and use full customizations, it does provide quite a bit. For example: you can add (root-requiring) apps like "Titanium Backup" (which not only backsup all of your programs and data, but also can "freeze" programs that are useless and running in the background when you don't want them to do so!) Or Greenify, which has the same functionality for dealing with unwanted apps (better actually!) and apps like Cerberus to help you keep track of your phone or find it if lost.
- Rooting to add these types of add ons, without fiddling with some of the more invasive mods that others have already warned about in the other posts, may be acceptable middle ground for you -it does provide customizations for your phone without stretching the safe use limits very far.
Take your time. . . keep reading and move at your own pace. It's hard to come here, start reading and simply "get it" on first bounce. . .It's just a shame that your friend with the older S4 didn't provide a couple of hints or tips about which versions to by ("buy the red ones"... :laugh so you could have picked up one that is easily customizable. . .(of course if you are still in the 14 day window you might go back and try to exchange for another one and look for a MDL version -according to some posts they seem to be the red ones that no one wanted to buy early on . . . . hmm
Good Luck!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well my Galaxy S4 on MF3 I actually bought on craigslist so the only exchange options are through the manufacturer. What I ended up doing was going to AT&T and using my upgrade to buy another S4 I just told the sales Representative to look on the side of the box for MDL software version or I was not going to upgrade. He was happy to make the sale. Now I have two s4