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Hi guys,
Im new to the Android scene, and thats because of the N1 got my nexus on order and should arrive shorty in the following week. Been reading the threads here over the last week or so, but alot of things aren't quite clear to me. Especially because im a Android noobie (previous WinMo )
Anyways reading about the Unlocking bootloader and Rooting the device seems pretty straight forward. I understand the consequences of each part and thus appears to be pretty easily done.
The things that i am unclear about are the addon packs and the things it comes bundled with?
- What are the current benefits from flashing these "addon" packs?
- They aren't ROM's just kind of expansion packs right? so no lost data after?
- Wtf is adb? lol i keep seeing it but no idea what it is, thus confusing for noobies like me.
- In cyanogens thread here it says backup using Nandroid, and when i find Nandroid in google i get this. But it says for G1? will it still work fine?
Thankyou for any answers as I believe you will help me to NOT mess up my new phone. I'm sure alot of other people would be thankful for your answers.
Thankyou again!

Hello,
First off welcome to Android, second, get the fire suit on for the "wrong forum" flames.
What are the current benefits from flashing these "addon" packs?
Not a *ton* but there is Tether and other goodies that you can start using.​
- They aren't ROM's just kind of expansion packs right? so no lost data after?
Yes to 1st, and there will be lost data when you unlock the bootloader.. if you unocked the bootloader, and then used the phone for a week or so, THEN flashed this addon pack, then no data loss.​- Wtf is adb? lol i keep seeing it but no idea what it is, thus confusing for noobies like me.
Android Debug Bridge... its used for debugging. lol....​- In cyanogens thread here it says backup using Nandroid, and when i find Nandroid in google i get this. But it says for G1? will it still work fine?
No, the Nandroid backup will be an option AFTER you unlock the BL and install Amon_RA's Recovery image..​
Good luck man!!

thanks for the reply.
I'm trying to gather as much as i can before i get the phone in my hands. Maybe because i want to start right away when i get hold of the phone lol You have enlightened me on many points.
I was just wondering also,
I've read about apps such as Nexus Torch and SetCPU which require rooting. Are these apps aquired simply after I unlock + root from the market place? because i read about reinstall su and similar.
Sorry for the noobiness, as i've mentioned im a android beginner and not too familiar with the terms used.
I just want to install some cool apps and convert those iphone users......(my gf )

No they're not required. Rooting is really only for the hardcore phone nerd (which is probably why you're on this site!) I personally am holding off on rooting my N1 until it's fully understood on if it can be re-locked etc. If this is your first Android phone I would recommend doing some reading around on the G1 forum and understand the full capabilities of rooting your device and some neat apps.
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mis-read what you said. Those apps can be obtained from the "Makin Bacon" add on somewhere on this forum. Cyanogen posted it up.

SystmDcln said:
No they're not required. Rooting is really only for the hardcore phone nerd (which is probably why you're on this site!) I personally am holding off on rooting my N1 until it's fully understood on if it can be re-locked etc. If this is your first Android phone I would recommend doing some reading around on the G1 forum and understand the full capabilities of rooting your device and some neat apps.
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mis-read what you said. Those apps can be obtained from the "Makin Bacon" add on somewhere on this forum. Cyanogen posted it up.
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I'm doing the same thing as this guy. I'm super hardcore about customization so I have no doubt that I'll root my phone eventually but not quite yet. Things are still a bit too new and right now there really aren't that many reasons to root (outside of tethering support IMO). If you can live without tethering for a month, then you should wait to root.

welcome
addon packs do a few things to your phone. the biggest things, i think, are the busybox and the dropbear installations, and the tethering apps. some modders also like to "optimize" android too. whether or not it actually works, i can't personally tell, but i take their word for it.
busybox will allow you to run some common linux commands on your android (with a terminal app i guess...) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BusyBox
dropbear is an ssh server so that you can access the command line (and push files to your android) from your computer
tethering means share your cell connection with a computer to give your computer internet. i've used it in many airports, and it's sweet.
like the other dude said, the initial root will require a data wipe, but not the addons. i'm not sure if it's true for EVERY rom (i think it is) but when you first install a whole rom a wipe is required, but when upgrading to a newer version of the same rom no wipe is required. if you like to keep your sms and mms's then it's good to have some of these linux tools so you can move and replace the sms and mms databases manually.
adb is android debugging bridge. it's a part of the android sdk (software development kit) that google gives out for free and is meant to develop apps. with it you can plug your phone into your comp via USB and run all sorts of commands on it from your computer. droidexplorer is basically a GUI for the adb commands, so with ADB you can do all that droidexplorer can do. http://de.codeplex.com/
nandroid is kind of like "system restore" for android. you need to root the phone, then flash Amon_RA's recovery thingy (in one of the threads). once you're in recovery, you can create a nandroid backup (kind of like an image of your current android phone) that you can restore later. then restoring it is as simple as going back into recovery and clicking "restore".
m00moo said:
Hi guys,
Im new to the Android scene, and thats because of the N1 got my nexus on order and should arrive shorty in the following week. Been reading the threads here over the last week or so, but alot of things aren't quite clear to me. Especially because im a Android noobie (previous WinMo )
Anyways reading about the Unlocking bootloader and Rooting the device seems pretty straight forward. I understand the consequences of each part and thus appears to be pretty easily done.
The things that i am unclear about are the addon packs and the things it comes bundled with?
- What are the current benefits from flashing these "addon" packs?
- They aren't ROM's just kind of expansion packs right? so no lost data after?
- Wtf is adb? lol i keep seeing it but no idea what it is, thus confusing for noobies like me.
- In cyanogens thread here it says backup using Nandroid, and when i find Nandroid in google i get this. But it says for G1? will it still work fine?
Thankyou for any answers as I believe you will help me to NOT mess up my new phone. I'm sure alot of other people would be thankful for your answers.
Thankyou again!
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wow thanks vmuch for the kind replies!
i feel like i understand the previous things i've read around in the forum alot more now!
So the question to root or not root, rooting the device would prob be the option for me as:
1) dont really want to do a wipe after a week or two
2) want cool apps such as SetCUP/Nexus Torch
One thing im wondering is whats this about paid apps and rooted devices in the market? After rooting some people cannot see paid apps or something?
Once again thankyou for the kind kind replies and i hope some other noobies like me are learning

If I buy an app (I'm thinking of the Exchange Calendar sync app) and then end up rooting and installing another ROM (say the EU ROM if it has multitouch) will I be able to get my purchased apps working again - or do you have to rebuy them?

If you buy an app it'll always show as purchased on the marketplace so you can redownload it - all the ones I bought on my G1 were still available when I setup the N1 for example.

m00moo said:
wow thanks vmuch for the kind replies!
i feel like i understand the previous things i've read around in the forum alot more now!
So the question to root or not root, rooting the device would prob be the option for me as:
1) dont really want to do a wipe after a week or two
2) want cool apps such as SetCUP/Nexus Torch
One thing im wondering is whats this about paid apps and rooted devices in the market? After rooting some people cannot see paid apps or something?
Once again thankyou for the kind kind replies and i hope some other noobies like me are learning
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Wait to root. Right now it's still too unknown on the "ins and outs" of this phone. When I first started rooting on my G1 and MyTouch I wiped a lot while learning things about it. Research while you wait. An OTA is supposed to come out to fix some bugs, and nobody has released any ROMs anyways. And on paid apps, Google Checkout keeps a record of what you purchase, no matter how many times you wipe Market will always have them listed in the "Downloads" Tab as "Purchased" to re-download at no charge.

m00moo said:
wow thanks vmuch for the kind replies!
i feel like i understand the previous things i've read around in the forum alot more now!
So the question to root or not root, rooting the device would prob be the option for me as:
1) dont really want to do a wipe after a week or two
2) want cool apps such as SetCUP/Nexus Torch
One thing im wondering is whats this about paid apps and rooted devices in the market? After rooting some people cannot see paid apps or something?
Once again thankyou for the kind kind replies and i hope some other noobies like me are learning
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that happened to me. i think it has to do with the fact that i rooted and turned on my phone before i even put my simcard in. i opened the market and couldn't see "top paid apps" (though i could still search for apps and paid ones would show up). after i turned it off, then put my sim card in and turned it back on, no dice, still no top paid apps.
i reflashed nexusone-superboot-1.1.img with my sim card in this time (can't remember if i wiped. i think it required a wipe) and i turned it on with my sim and voila. paid apps. so it's definitely fixable if you run into that problem.

thanks again for the replies
Im pretty up for rooting upon recieving my handset which should be by wednesday the latest (no engraving), as i ordered on friday 8th. But being the first time im quite scared to do so lol especially on a brand new phone.
But as SystmDcIn said theres too much we don't know as of yet and slowly things are becoming more and more developed as we speak.
The main issue for me is using the phone 2 weeks in and then wiping it clean hopefully somebody will make some cool ROMS soon which include the "addons and goodies" so the process is made way more simple.
Thanks again guys! Well appreciated!

I would also agree with waiting to root. I dont see the benefits of SetCPU for the N1, cuz its already at 1ghz, if it was underclocked i would understand.

Orangeandblue302 said:
I would also agree with waiting to root. I dont see the benefits of SetCPU for the N1, cuz its already at 1ghz, if it was underclocked i would understand.
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I use SetCPU to underclock the device in sleep mode.
I also underclock when I am not going to be using it for long periods.
Saves battery life.

true true, didnt think of it like that. most people want to overclock, i shouldnt assume. you know what happens when you assume lol.

It is a bit of a travesty to do it to this device. Its like putting a Beetle engine in a Porsche.
I can't always be near a charger, and until I can get a bigger battery that will give me more than seven hours, this is the solution.

this being my first android device i have spent hours on end on theses boards and on wiki's learning as much as i can about the phone and the platform... many of these basic questions that he asked i also had not 24 hours ago haha...
that being said, i think a lot of people are moving over to android so what if a thread got started that would answer basic questions that typically ever new user is going to have? ive yet to find a straight forward answer for half of the crap i have tried to find out and having it all in 1 place would be quite beneficial for people switching over... this could be moderated highly to keep it clean and in order?
a nice, straightforward, helpful community would be a nice touch to overtake some iphone shares

I see that you're from Hong Kong also- has your device shipped yet? I ordered mine on the 8th as well and it still shows not yet shipped. Was just wondering whether that's normal as most people state that the device shipped a day after ordering.

yamanote said:
I see that you're from Hong Kong also- has your device shipped yet? I ordered mine on the 8th as well and it still shows not yet shipped. Was just wondering whether that's normal as most people state that the device shipped a day after ordering.
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Sorry I am not really from Hong Kong lol I'm in fact from UK and Chinese. My Phone will be arriving early next week so whilst waiting, I am trying to learn as much as possible in case i damage my phone being a noob. lol
I agree with JHaste, i think due to the N1 and the upcoming HTC andoird devices. Alot of people will be moving over to Android in the coming 2-3 months. The questions i asked will be asked over and over and some kind of wiki,faq or android bible will be great. If anybody had the time and knowledge of basic rooting, unlocking and flashing could do such a thing it will be greatly appreciated

m00moo said:
thanks again for the replies
Im pretty up for rooting upon recieving my handset which should be by wednesday the latest (no engraving), as i ordered on friday 8th. But being the first time im quite scared to do so lol especially on a brand new phone.
But as SystmDcIn said theres too much we don't know as of yet and slowly things are becoming more and more developed as we speak.
The main issue for me is using the phone 2 weeks in and then wiping it clean hopefully somebody will make some cool ROMS soon which include the "addons and goodies" so the process is made way more simple.
Thanks again guys! Well appreciated!
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i think cyanogen's mod includes a backup app (titanium backup or somethin)...you'd be able to save all your data before you wiped it clean (but then you'd need the same backup app to restore it)

unroot incredible?

this may seem like a silly question, but i have to return my incredible bec they are sending me a replacement, dead pixel, so before i try to root i would like to have it unrooted before i send it back...
so how do you unroot it?
thanx all

At the risk of starting a flamewar (and none of this is directly aimed at the OP):
A lot people need to chill on this. This root method is not ready for prime time yet (that's why they made the disclaimer that it's only really for power users).
As an average user, there is almost nothing gained by having root at this point (other than removing city id and MAYBE gaining tethering). I mean seriously, people who don't even know how to install the android sdk on their computers have no business attempting this.
The main reason most people want root is for custom roms and there aren't any yet.
To answer your question, yes, you can easily undo it with a factory wipe/flash, but again, what's the point in trying it when you have nothing to do with the privileges?

Use one of the RUU post in this forum pre ota or the ota one.

m1k3- said:
To answer your question, yes, you can easily undo it with a factory wipe
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thank you!

m1k3- said:
To answer your question, yes, you can easily undo it with a factory wipe/flash, but again, what's the point in trying it when you have nothing to do with the privileges?
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BOOO!
I've been seeing this kind of presumptuous junk pop up again in the Inc thread around the root issue, just like it used to around root season in late '08 for the G1. The one lesson I learned was this:
STOP TELLING PEOPLE THEY'RE NOT SMART/GOOD/CRAFTY ENOUGH TO ROOT!
And if you haven't checked recently, there are a ton of root-only apps on the market. Maybe he just likes #-signs better than $-signs. Whatever his reasons are, just let people be. This forum wouldn't exist if it weren't for natural curiosity.

really though at this point it's kinda based on the SD card you have an timing. to unroot though you just download and run the RUU on the forums here.

rynosaur said:
BOOO!
I've been seeing this kind of presumptuous junk pop up again in the Inc thread around the root issue, just like it used to around root season in late '08 for the G1. The one lesson I learned was this:
STOP TELLING PEOPLE THEY'RE NOT SMART/GOOD/CRAFTY ENOUGH TO ROOT!
And if you haven't checked recently, there are a ton of root-only apps on the market. Maybe he just likes #-signs better than $-signs. Whatever his reasons are, just let people be. This forum wouldn't exist if it weren't for natural curiosity.
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Dude,
Aside from the fact that they can break stuff (up to and including bricking their phone - yes I realize this process resulting in a brick is unlikely, but it's still possible), there's also another good reason... security. A lot of these people aren't 'linux guys' and don't even really understand what exactly 'root' even means. I bet $20 that if you had everyone in this forum in a room and walked around with a clipboard asking people 'What is UID 0?' maybe 20-30% of people would know the answer. That means that up to 80% of them probably don't quite understand all of the things inside this can of worms they're trying to open.
My comments weren't intended to be presumptuous, or to look down on people, or to thumb my nose at them, etc. I'm only pointing out that for average (or probably even most) users, there aren't really any everyday reasons to go through this.... especially if you don't know what you're doing. All risk, no reward. And that's exactly why the developers of the method are advising these types of users to wait for something that's more suitable for mass consumption.

Ya I love my phone the way it is, all I wanted to do is wifi tether haha. I rooted just fine and im no expert at all. It took about 20 minutes.

Thank you! To the answer on how to quickly unroot. I appreciate it...

drieves1 said:
Use one of the RUU post in this forum pre ota or the ota one.
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Is there a way to unroot without wiping the phone?

Since when did wiping the phone remove root?

If you RUU the phone to unroot it is wiped and will need to re-do all the settings. I dont want to have to do that.

Debating on Rooting the S4

Im a pure n00b. I'm About to buy my first droid phone. Im very knowledgeable about iphones and the jailbreak world but I'm not sure what would be the benefit of rooting a droid phone. I've heard the droid community is pretty wide open without rooting.
What would be some benefits of rooting a phone like the samsung galaxy s4? I did see that it will allow you to tweak bluetooth to connect a ps3 controller to it wirelessly for emulators but is it anything else that XDA could share to help push me in that direction? any cool features?
Thanks in advance.

I'd say the biggest benefit from rooting is getting rid of that crap that both Samsung and AT&T put on the S4

First thing, droid phones are from Motorola. Call all others android phones. It will save some unnecessary flaming.
Pretty much still running the stock rom on mine, but used root to flash a mod that allows free wifi tethering and hot spot, and an extended power menu.
Flashing roms is also a big reason most people root phones. You can pick and choose what you want(touchwiz roms or aosp) and find one you like.
I wouldnt want an android phone without rooting it.
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I mainly rooted for faux's kernel which removed the launcher lag and the messaging lag that occurs sometimes. I also rooted to removed all the bloatware.

Biggest reasons to root, for me personally, are custom roms, custom kernels, debloating, backing up and restoring apps, theming, overclocking, and undervolting. These are just my reasons personally. There are literally hundreds of other things you can do as a root user that you couldnt do otherwise.
The worst case scenario of rooting being, if you really dont find the benefit for yourself personally, its pretty easy to revert back to stock unrooted. These samsung phones now are basically unbrickable and flashing is really easy, especially if youve went through jailbreaking an iphone... lol rooting a samsung device is way easier imo.
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I root for the deep-level backup capabilities, custom kernels that improve speed and battery life, Pie Control (makes navigating & using a large phone much easier), custom ROMs, mods like Hot Spot and custom themes, and deeper level security apps (firewall, find your phone, etc).

Here are the main reasons while people usually root. In no particular order.
1. Ad blocking
2. Remove unwanted apps "bloatware"
3. Custom ROMs/ advanced custom theming
4. Custom kernels and features such as nandroid backups and under/over clocking etc.
5. Tethering/free hot spot
6. Aosp ROMs
Ultimately think of rooting as taking complete control of your device. You can do pretty much anything depending on your knowledge after you are rooted.
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thanks
thanks everybody. starting to like the community already. alot of quick helping people here.
I'm grandfathered in with unlimited at ATT. so free hot spot and removing bloatware talked me into it. thanks.

wotandsdwys said:
First thing, droid phones are from Motorola. Call all others android phones. It will save some unnecessary flaming.
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I was thinking the same thing..lol

How much space are you guys saving when you root and get rid of all the bloatware? How much available space is on your phone before all of your additional aps?

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djv3n0m said:
thanks everybody. starting to like the community already. alot of quick helping people here.
I'm grandfathered in with unlimited at ATT. so free hot spot and removing bloatware talked me into it. thanks.
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There is at least one downside to rooting. You can't take the updates w/o breaking root. I've not rooted my S4 yet, but am thinking about it. I always rooted my HTC phones and it would sometimes take several months for a developer to incorporate updates into a ROM. So that makes me a little gunshy with a new phone like this, as I assume there will be a few updates in the first few months. But it seems like the dev's are much more active and on top of it with the Samsung phones, so I'm tempted to go.
Main reasons I want to go are deep backup, ad blocking and being able to tweak my settings to make it so the home button does not wake up the phone. I know, the latter reason seems silly, but it's a big deal to me.
BTW, you do not need to root to be able to tether. Check out the PDANet+ app. That's what I'm using and it works great wired or via bluetooth.

jejb said:
There is at least one downside to rooting. You can't take the updates w/o breaking root. I've not rooted my S4 yet, but am thinking about it. I always rooted my HTC phones and it would sometimes take several months for a developer to incorporate updates into a ROM. So that makes me a little gunshy with a new phone like this, as I assume there will be a few updates in the first few months. But it seems like the dev's are much more active and on top of it with the Samsung phones, so I'm tempted to go.
Main reasons I want to go are deep backup, ad blocking and being able to tweak my settings to make it so the home button does not wake up the phone. I know, the latter reason seems silly, but it's a big deal to me.
BTW, you do not need to root to be able to tether. Check out the PDANet+ app. That's what I'm using and it works great wired or via bluetooth.
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You should be able to take otas if you have stock recovery and are just rooted, this is how it was on the S3 at least and I don't see why you can't. Also on the S3 we always got the leaks right before the otas came out so the ROMs would always have the newest builds out before the otas usually, depending on the developer, some didn't like using leaks. But Sextape would always have a leak right before the otas dropped and we had everything usually within a day or two up to a week. But the development there was amazing on the S3. :thumbup:
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GiantJay said:
You should be able to take otas if you have stock recovery and are just rooted, this is how it was on the S3 at least and I don't see why you can't.
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You can take the OTA, it will just break root. There were several threads here stating that fact here when the MDL OTA came out for the S4.

GiantJay said:
You should be able to take otas if you have stock recovery and are just rooted, this is how it was on the S3 at least and I don't see why you can't. Also on the S3 we always got the leaks right before the otas came out so the ROMs would always have the newest builds out before the otas usually, depending on the developer, some didn't like using leaks. But Sextape would always have a leak right before the otas dropped and we had everything usually within a day or two up to a week. But the development there was amazing on the S3. :thumbup:
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Exactly what I was going to say! Sextape always came thru on the e4gt as well. The next update would always be out before the official release. So glad to see him have stuff for the s4 as well.
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jejb said:
You can take the OTA, it will just break root. There were several threads here stating that fact here when the MDL OTA came out for the S4.
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This is generally the case with OTA's, but every year it seems like rooting becomes more straight forwsrd, especially for Samsung. As for MDL it was a specific attribute added by Samsung to tighten up control on deeper root access that broke root, but it was hardly a locked bootloader or anything that severe. Re-rooting was as simple as loading a kernel and then Odining. At this point, most manufacturers are beginning to understand the benefits of the development community. Now if we can just get the carriers to "get it."
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To put it very simple I root my phone to be free and to have my phone the way I wanted it not the way a company wants me to have it
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Once you root your phone and learn all the possibilities that come along with it, you won't go back haha It's a lot of fun after knowing your stuff. reading in this forum is probably one of, if not, the best thing/s you can do

[Q] new to At&t, porting phone #, rooting help

Hi everyone,
Time to retire my EVO 4G and ditch Sprint. New S4 coming today. If it has MDL, I plan on rooting it. My question is this:
Since I'm porting my phone number from Sprint, can I leave the SIM card out and root it before it has been provisioned, or do I have to insert the SIM card and wait until I have At&t service before rooting?
Thanks. Looking forward to flashing a custom ROM...but I sure am gonna miss my OG EVO!

The phone does not have to be provisioned so leave the card out and turn off wifi. Then not only root, but also freeze/delete the three files used to update our put a custom recovery and rom on. The three files are something like at&t software update, FWupdate, and localFOTA. They're apk's

when the device arrives, before opening it, look on the packaging and locate the firmware version. it will be with the IMEI number, etc. if its MF3, i'd take it to at&t for an exchange (you have 14 days). then i probably would have the clerk search the inventory until they found one that had MDL on the S4 box. haha. the red S4's werent terribly popular so there might be a few MDL versions of them left.
when you get home, do as jd1639 said and freeze those apks if you're not going to flash a different ROM entirely. cheers

xBeerdroiDx said:
when the device arrives, before opening it, look on the packaging and locate the firmware version. it will be with the IMEI number, etc. if its MF3, i'd take it to at&t for an exchange (you have 14 days). then i probably would have the clerk search the inventory until they found one that had MDL on the S4 box. haha. the red S4's werent terribly popular so there might be a few MDL versions of them left.
when you get home, do as jd1639 said and freeze those apks if you're not going to flash a different ROM entirely. cheers
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"If you want to avoid the update, you should root your phone and freeze the following three apps using titanium backup or some similar app.
1. AT&T Software update Vxx_x_xxxx_x_x
2. FWUpgrade x.x.x
3. LocalFOTA vx_xxxx_x_x"

Got my phone... I'm ready to root
Got home from work today to find my shiny new 16gb black s4 waiting for me. Ordered it from amazon.com for $149 with activation. I must say that I am impressed at the speed of delivery...ordered it Thursday night at 6PM and got it today (Saturday) at 11:30AM. It's MDL, so I am charging up the battery and downloading casual. Once I get root, I will kill the OTA and then provision the phone. After that, any suggestions on a stable ROM with everything working? Coming from Sprint and HTC, I have a lot of learning to do although I have experience with rooting and flashing on the Epic.
Thanks all!

pipefitter said:
Got home from work today to find my shiny new 16gb black s4 waiting for me. Ordered it from amazon.com for $149 with activation. I must say that I am impressed at the speed of delivery...ordered it Thursday night at 6PM and got it today (Saturday) at 11:30AM. It's MDL, so I am charging up the battery and downloading casual. Once I get root, I will kill the OTA and then provision the phone. After that, any suggestions on a stable ROM with everything working? Coming from Sprint and HTC, I have a lot of learning to do although I have experience with rooting and flashing on the Epic.
Thanks all!
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The best thing to do is go to the development and original development sections and read through the OP's of each ROM to see which has the features you want. They are all good so you will need to decide for yourself what is good for you. Good luck.

scott14719 said:
The best thing to do is go to the development and original development sections and read through the OP's of each ROM to see which has the features you want. They are all good so you will need to decide for yourself what is good for you. Good luck.
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C'mon now. I've been on xda for 4 years and I have read that very same answer dozens of times. I'm coming from the HTC Evo 4G. I've flashed dozens of ROMs and I can tell you which ones I prefer. But I'm new to the S4 and I don't even know everything it can do. I guess I will settle on root & recovery for now, disable OTA, debloat what I find I can do without, and then get to know the device before I decide on a custom ROM.
I would, however, appreciate your (and anyone else's) honest opinion on specific ROMs based on speed, battery life, aesthetic appeal, etc.
Thanks again.

pipefitter said:
C'mon now. I've been on xda for 4 years and I have read that very same answer dozens of times. I'm coming from the HTC Evo 4G. I've flashed dozens of ROMs and I can tell you which ones I prefer. But I'm new to the S4 and I don't even know everything it can do. I guess I will settle on root & recovery for now, disable OTA, debloat what I find I can do without, and then get to know the device before I decide on a custom ROM.
I would, however, appreciate your (and anyone else's) honest opinion on specific ROMs based on speed, battery life, aesthetic appeal, etc.
Thanks again.
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That's all fine, but you seem to be missing the fact that what I like, you may not. I can not tell you which ROMs you will like and what is fast and stable for me isn't for others. It's ALL opinion. You can tell me which of the other dozens of ROMs you have flashed you might like, but you can not tell me which ones I might like and I can not tell you which ones you will like.
Because you are new to this particular phone and forum, you will find that "best" or "favorite" threads are not allowed for the very reasons I listed above. You might not like the answer, but if you want to know what ROMs works best for you, you will have to try them (or at least read about them) for yourself.

scott14719 said:
That's all fine, but you seem to be missing the fact that what I like, you may not. I can not tell you which ROMs you will like and what is fast and stable for me isn't for others. It's ALL opinion. You can tell me which of the other dozens of ROMs you have flashed you might like, but you can not tell me which ones I might like and I can not tell you which ones you will like.
Because you are new to this particular phone and forum, you will find that "best" or "favorite" threads are not allowed for the very reasons I listed above. You might not like the answer, but if you want to know what ROMs works best for you, you will have to try them (or at least read about them) for yourself.
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I understand that. However, I didn't ask for what you think I would like, but rather what YOU like based on your experience with the S4.
Belive me, I have read the entire development section and many pages deep into each individual ROM. Been reading them for weeks. Since I am unfamiliar with the device, I have nothing to compare to the custom ROMS. Everyone appreciates a little guidance when they are new to anything. It seems that it would be more of a waste of the forums time if I had flashed every ROM and then asked what everyone thought of each particular ROM, trying to justify my choice.
But as I stated previously, I will be happy for now to have r & r...which gives me complete control over my device.
Thanks again for your time!

pipefitter said:
I understand that. However, I didn't ask for what you think I would like, but rather what YOU like based on your experience with the S4.
Belive me, I have read the entire development section and many pages deep into each individual ROM. Been reading them for weeks. Since I am unfamiliar with the device, I have nothing to compare to the custom ROMS. Everyone appreciates a little guidance when they are new to anything. It seems that it would be more of a waste of the forums time if I had flashed every ROM and then asked what everyone thought of each particular ROM, trying to justify my choice.
But as I stated previously, I will be happy for now to have r & r...which gives me complete control over my device.
Thanks again for your time!
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If you haven't seen this post, it might help you a little in separating available ROMs into categories such as Stock or Source based...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2312444
Source based tend to not have extra features such as gestures or other Samsung sourced features. Good luck

[Q] Please Help! New S5 BRICKED!!

1.) Rooted S5 900V (Verizon Model) using towel root.
2.) Installed Safestrap Recovery.
All this went perfectly fine..
I forget exactly which ROM i tried to install but it boot looped my phone.
I need to know which ROMs i can use and which ones that i CANNOT,
Can i only use certain ROMs based off of which recovery i've installed?
What is ADB Side Load?
I want to ask all of these questions, no matter how noobish, so that i can write every single one of these things down in lamens terms for the average (or slightly below average) user.
If we understood what half of these options meant and would do we could do this stuff yourself and leave you guys alone so you can develop stuff for my Verizon S5 !!! lol :laugh:
Not only that, but most of these ROM's come with ZERO instructions on how to install them properly. I mean i understand that if your flashing then you should have an underlying knowledge of what you doing but COME ON!!! BE smart about it. You take all that time to develop a decent ROM but don't but info on how to install it properly. WTF is the deal with that?
Also... Can i use Odin309 within Linux via Wine? I am trying to install the firmware i got from Sam's.

If you have a verizon S5, (SM-G900V) then you can only flash a rom, made by the devs here, for the 900V. If you try to flash a variants S5 rom, your phone will brick.
I always recommend that before somone flashes anything to their phone or tablet to do research on the subject. Read, and reread everything. Double check. Make sure you have everything you need.
Also, pretty much all of the devs have install instructions for their work in our phones dev section.
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Also about your question about using odin within linux via wine, here are a few threads that aks the same thing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55539300
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55569056
Personally, I'd rather use a Windows PC. Less headaches that way. But thats just my opinion.

warpedmind0u812 said:
If you have a verizon S5, (SM-G900V) then you can only flash a rom, made by the devs here, for the 900V. If you try to flash a variants S5 rom, your phone will brick.
I always recommend that before somone flashes anything to their phone or tablet to do research on the subject. Read, and reread everything. Double check. Make sure you have everything you need.
Also, pretty much all of the devs have install instructions for their work in our phones dev section.
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Also about your question about using odin within linux via wine, here are a few threads that aks the same thing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55539300
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55569056
Personally, I'd rather use a Windows PC. Less headaches that way. But thats just my opinion.
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Yes I do read, but somethimes it can be

exitpr0gram said:
1.) Rooted S5 900V (Verizon Model) using towel root.
2.) Installed Safestrap Recovery.
All this went perfectly fine..
I forget exactly which ROM i tried to install but it boot looped my phone.
I need to know which ROMs i can use and which ones that i CANNOT,
You can only use ROMs labeled for the retail Verizon S5. Not spring, tmobile.. etc.. Verizon.
Can i only use certain ROMs based off of which recovery i've installed?
As of now, you can only use safestrap. Any of the current ROMs can be flashed by our current safestrap
What is ADB Side Load?
ADB Sideload
I want to ask all of these questions, no matter how noobish, so that i can write every single one of these things down in lamens terms for the average (or slightly below average) user.
If we understood what half of these options meant and would do we could do this stuff yourself and leave you guys alone so you can develop stuff for my Verizon S5 !!! lol :laugh:
Not only that, but most of these ROM's come with ZERO instructions on how to install them properly. I mean i understand that if your flashing then you should have an underlying knowledge of what you doing but COME ON!!! BE smart about it. You take all that time to develop a decent ROM but don't but info on how to install it properly. WTF is the deal with that?
Most? That's a bit harsh. Last I checked, most (if not all) of the ROM devs (including myself) provide thorough instructions. There is no "WTF deal".
Also... Can i use Odin309 within Linux via Wine? I am trying to install the firmware i got from Sam's.
Simple answer: no. Don't take the risk to your device.
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Answered your questions above in RED.

exitpr0gram said:
1.) Rooted S5 900V (Verizon Model) using towel root.
2.) Installed Safestrap Recovery.
All this went perfectly fine..
I forget exactly which ROM i tried to install but it boot looped my phone.
I need to know which ROMs i can use and which ones that i CANNOT,
Can i only use certain ROMs based off of which recovery i've installed?
What is ADB Side Load?
I want to ask all of these questions, no matter how noobish, so that i can write every single one of these things down in lamens terms for the average (or slightly below average) user.
If we understood what half of these options meant and would do we could do this stuff yourself and leave you guys alone so you can develop stuff for my Verizon S5 !!! lol :laugh:
Not only that, but most of these ROM's come with ZERO instructions on how to install them properly. I mean i understand that if your flashing then you should have an underlying knowledge of what you doing but COME ON!!! BE smart about it. You take all that time to develop a decent ROM but don't but info on how to install it properly. WTF is the deal with that?
Also... Can i use Odin309 within Linux via Wine? I am trying to install the firmware i got from Sam's.
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No offense meant, but based on the questions you've asked I suggest you do more research before flashing anything on your phone.
The ROMs listed in this forum have pretty good install instruction for anyone who has a basic knowledge of what they are doing (err go the comment about doing more research).
Did you make a backup before you flashed the ROM you can't even remember the name of? What slot did you flash the ROM to?
It would be helpful if you could tell us what ROM you tried to flash and where you found it.
Always make a backup of your stock rom before flashing anything.

Thanks
BigBot96 said:
Answered your questions above in RED.
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I guess what i meant to say is that some information is just hard to locate. They keep the fancy art easy to see but the installation instructions you actually have to search for. I love the DEV's for there work, TRUST ME. Android wouldn't be Android without you guys.
I would like to get more involved in the XDA and AndroidForums to make a one stop shop for ALL of the popular devices. Basically, just gather up all pertinent information (after receiving permission from the dev) and put it in one nice and easy spot to read.

exitpr0gram said:
I guess what i meant to say is that some information is just hard to locate. They keep the fancy art easy to see but the installation instructions you actually have to search for. I love the DEV's for there work, TRUST ME. Android wouldn't be Android without you guys.
I would like to get more involved in the XDA and AndroidForums to make a one stop shop for ALL of the popular devices. Basically, just gather up all pertinent information (after receiving permission from the dev) and put it in one nice and easy spot to read.
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You mean something like this thread which already exists?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784860

landshark68 said:
You mean something like this thread which already exists?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784860
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Yes. That is an excellent example of what i am wanting to do and I actually used it when i started reading up on my S5.The only thing is that it does not specify the Verizon 900V. So someone with any model phone could read that and brick their phone.
But i will want to go in to more detail such as exactly what the "NE9" is.. Is it an update? Firmware? What?
Regardless, i just want to add another page that has information that one that already exists, such as that one, may be missing.
There is WAY too much information about our phones to say that one page covers every single aspect of it.
I'm just wanting to help clearly state the information thats already out there. Alot of these people are already busy and cannot give 110% towards there pages.

exitpr0gram said:
Yes. That is an excellent example of what i am wanting to do and I actually used it when i started reading up on my S5.The only thing is that it does not specify the Verizon 900V. So someone with any model phone could read that and brick their phone.
But i will want to go in to more detail such as exactly what the "NE9" is.. Is it an update? Firmware? What?
Regardless, i just want to add another page that has information that one that already exists, such as that one, may be missing.
There is WAY too much information about our phones to say that one page covers every single aspect of it.
I'm just wanting to help clearly state the information thats already out there. Alot of these people are already busy and cannot give 110% towards there pages.
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It literally says "How to root Verizon's Samsung Galaxy S5" in the title.
If you feel theres a need for another thread explaining things, talk to a moderator about making one.

warpedmind0u812 said:
It literally says "How to root Verizon's Samsung Galaxy S5" in the title.
If you feel theres a need for another thread explaining things, talk to a moderator about making one.
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I think we both know that one carriers phone could have compatible root/roms for others carrier's phones. Specifying the model name i would think would be the most appropriate way. You have to realize not everyone has been doing this for as long as you and does not necessarily have a keen eye for such things..
There is absolutely nothing wrong with over explaining things.
With that being said, i do believe that post is an extremely helpful page.
But discussing whether or not the page has enough information is not worth debating over.
When i find time to do my own then we can have this discussion.
I mentioned i wasn't exactly sure how i boot looped my. Still don't because I can't remember for the life of me which ROM it was! I thought i book marked it... Whichever one it was, it wanted me to flash 3-4 different zips once in SafeStrap. First ZIP is when the boot loop occuured.
ANYWAY...
I installed SafeStrap using the instructions found HERE.
I wanted to install THIS ONE because it had the KTweaker which is totally awesome toplay with but i dont think my 900-V allows sit.\\
BUT:
I want as many people's opinion as possible on this (I will create a separate thread). I have T-Mobile but was old a Verizon Phone. I have issues with dropped calls, slow speeds, among others. I want to know if this is legal.
Any and all are welcome to respond as i feel they should pay for making me pay $60 fora cab (Oneway) and then selling me a crap phone. Plus the wall charger didn't work. The data cable did so at least i had another wall charger.
In Case your Wondering... yes i do have the receipt.
THE BEST PART IS: T-Mobile said they've never heard of them when i called and gave them the address off of the receipt.
Honestly, i would like to go in there and walk out with another S5, maybe even with this one paid off, lol. But PLEASE ALL OPINIONS ARE WELCOME.

exitpr0gram said:
I think we both know that one carriers phone could have compatible root/roms for others carrier's phones. Specifying the model name i would think would be the most appropriate way. You have to realize not everyone has been doing this for as long as you and does not necessarily have a keen eye for such things..
There is absolutely nothing wrong with over explaining things.
With that being said, i do believe that post is an extremely helpful page.
But discussing whether or not the page has enough information is not worth debating over.
When i find time to do my own then we can have this discussion.
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So... Do you actually need help with your phone?

warpedmind0u812 said:
So... Do you actually need help with your phone?
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I fixed it, thanks.
Sammobile firmware+Odin309+download mode= Magic.

How i Fixed + A 10x More Complicated Question
BigBot96 said:
Answered your questions above in RED.
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jpcalhoun said:
No offense meant, but based on the questions you've asked I suggest you do more research before flashing anything on your phone.
The ROMs listed in this forum have pretty good install instruction for anyone who has a basic knowledge of what they are doing (err go the comment about doing more research).
Did you make a backup before you flashed the ROM you can't even remember the name of? What slot did you flash the ROM to?
It would be helpful if you could tell us what ROM you tried to flash and where you found it.
Always make a backup of your stock rom before flashing anything.
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warpedmind0u812 said:
It literally says "How to root Verizon's Samsung Galaxy S5" in the title.
If you feel theres a need for another thread explaining things, talk to a moderator about making one.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2732110

Any Input/Opinions WELCOME!!!!!!!!!!
BigBot96 said:
Answered your questions above in RED.
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jpcalhoun said:
No offense meant, but based on the questions you've asked I suggest you do more research before flashing anything on your phone.
The ROMs listed in this forum have pretty good install instruction for anyone who has a basic knowledge of what they are doing (err go the comment about doing more research).
Did you make a backup before you flashed the ROM you can't even remember the name of? What slot did you flash the ROM to?
It would be helpful if you could tell us what ROM you tried to flash and where you found it.
Always make a backup of your stock rom before flashing anything.
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landshark68 said:
You mean something like this thread which already exists?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784860
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I mentioned i wasn't exactly sure how i boot looped my. Still don't because I can't remember for the life of me which ROM it was! I thought i book marked it... Whichever one it was, it wanted me to flash 3-4 different zips once in SafeStrap. First ZIP is when the boot loop occuured.
ANYWAY...
I installed SafeStrap using the instructions found HERE.
I wanted to install THIS ONE because it had the KTweaker which is totally awesome toplay with but i dont think my 900-V allows sit.\\
BUT:
I want as many people's opinion as possible on this (I will create a separate thread). I have T-Mobile but was old a Verizon Phone. I have issues with dropped calls, slow speeds, among others. I want to know if this is legal.
Any and all are welcome to respond as i feel they should pay for making me pay $60 fora cab (Oneway) and then selling me a crap phone. Plus the wall charger didn't work. The data cable did so at least i had another wall charger.
In Case your Wondering... yes i do have the receipt.
THE BEST PART IS: T-Mobile said they've never heard of them when i called and gave them the address off of the receipt.
Honestly, i would like to go in there and walk out with another S5, maybe even with this one paid off, lol. But PLEASE ALL OPINIONS ARE WELCOME.

exitpr0gram said:
I mentioned i wasn't exactly sure how i boot looped my. Still don't because I can't remember for the life of me which ROM it was! I thought i book marked it... Whichever one it was, it wanted me to flash 3-4 different zips once in SafeStrap. First ZIP is when the boot loop occuured.
ANYWAY...
I installed SafeStrap using the instructions found HERE.
I wanted to install THIS ONE because it had the KTweaker which is totally awesome toplay with but i dont think my 900-V allows sit.\\
BUT:
I want as many people's opinion as possible on this (I will create a separate thread). I have T-Mobile but was old a Verizon Phone. I have issues with dropped calls, slow speeds, among others. I want to know if this is legal.
Any and all are welcome to respond as i feel they should pay for making me pay $60 fora cab (Oneway) and then selling me a crap phone. Plus the wall charger didn't work. The data cable did so at least i had another wall charger.
In Case your Wondering... yes i do have the receipt.
THE BEST PART IS: T-Mobile said they've never heard of them when i called and gave them the address off of the receipt.
Honestly, i would like to go in there and walk out with another S5, maybe even with this one paid off, lol. But PLEASE ALL OPINIONS ARE WELCOME.
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You need to seriously stop and do a lot more reading before you try anything else with your phone. The ROM you linked above that you said you want to flash is for the International version of the Galaxy S5 and will hard brick your phone. The forum where that ROM is posted (Samsung Galaxy S5) is for the International version. The US variants of the S5 are broken down by carrier. Hence this is the Verizon Galaxy S5 forum. You bought your phone from some fly-by-night place, and it turned out to be a Verizon variant when you needed a T-Mobile variant.
If you are going to keep the Verizon variant you bought and use it on T-Mobile, you will only get Edge speeds through T-Mobile and never get 4G speeds. It is legal to use a Verizon phone on T-Mobile's network, it just won't work as well as you have already experienced. You need to change the APNs on your phone to get the best performance you can on T-Mobile. But it's still not going to be as good as using the T-Mobile variant on the T-Mobile network. If you went into that store and specifically asked for a T-Mobile Galaxy S5 and they sold you a Verizon variant, they would have a problem. If you went into the store and simply bought the cheapest S5 they had without telling them you needed a T-Mobile variant, then that is completely legal on their part. You don't need to create a separate thread to get everyone's opinions on the legality of your purchase. What I said above pretty much sums it up.
Also, if you are planning on keeping the Verizon variant and want to flash a ROM through safestrap, the ROM you want to flash has to be of the same build as the current build on your phone. So if your S5 is on NHA, you should only flash an NHA based ROM in safestrap. Or if you phone is on NI2, an NI2 based ROM. So letting everyone know which build your phone currently has will help us let you know which ROMs are safe to flash on your phone.
Sorry if all of this comes across as harsh, but I'm trying to help prevent you from turning your phone into a useless paperweight. You seem very confused by a lot of the information found here in the forums, and that is a very good time to slow down, take your time, and make sure you understand what you are doing at every step.

landshark68 said:
You need to seriously stop and do a lot more reading before you try anything else with your phone. The ROM you linked above that you said you want to flash is for the International version of the Galaxy S5 and will hard brick your phone. The forum where that ROM is posted (Samsung Galaxy S5) is for the International version. The US variants of the S5 are broken down by carrier. Hence this is the Verizon Galaxy S5 forum. You bought your phone from some fly-by-night place, and it turned out to be a Verizon variant when you needed a T-Mobile variant.
If you are going to keep the Verizon variant you bought and use it on T-Mobile, you will only get Edge speeds through T-Mobile and never get 4G speeds. It is legal to use a Verizon phone on T-Mobile's network, it just won't work as well as you have already experienced. You need to change the APNs on your phone to get the best performance you can on T-Mobile. But it's still not going to be as good as using the T-Mobile variant on the T-Mobile network. If you went into that store and specifically asked for a T-Mobile Galaxy S5 and they sold you a Verizon variant, they would have a problem. If you went into the store and simply bought the cheapest S5 they had without telling them you needed a T-Mobile variant, then that is completely legal on their part. You don't need to create a separate thread to get everyone's opinions on the legality of your purchase. What I said above pretty much sums it up.
Also, if you are planning on keeping the Verizon variant and want to flash a ROM through safestrap, the ROM you want to flash has to be of the same build as the current build on your phone. So if your S5 is on NHA, you should only flash an NHA based ROM in safestrap. Or if you phone is on NI2, an NI2 based ROM. So letting everyone know which build your phone currently has will help us let you know which ROMs are safe to flash on your phone.
Sorry if all of this comes across as harsh, but I'm trying to help prevent you from turning your phone into a useless paperweight. You seem very confused by a lot of the information found here in the forums, and that is a very good time to slow down, take your time, and make sure you understand what you are doing at every step.
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ALL of this information can be confusing and I doubt anyway one will deny that fact. The MAIN point is that i know how to fix it, right? This is why I eventually want to make a straight-forward thread about how to do things to which phone properly.
People learn from their mistakes.
I have been learning more and more as i go along but the fact i have T-Mobile service but a Verizon phone just added to the confusion.
Secondly i went in to a T-Mobile Store, so of course i wanted a T-Mobile phone, not a Verizon one. See, everyone makes stupid mistakes and misinterprets things :laugh:

exitpr0gram said:
ALL of this information can be confusing and I doubt anyway one will deny that fact. The MAIN point is that i know how to fix it, right? This is why I eventually want to make a straight-forward thread about how to do things to which phone properly.
People learn from their mistakes.
I have been learning more and more as i go along but the fact i have T-Mobile service but a Verizon phone just added to the confusion.
Secondly i went in to a T-Mobile Store, so of course i wanted a T-Mobile phone, not a Verizon one. See, everyone makes stupid mistakes and misinterprets things :laugh:
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I didn't make a stupid mistake and misinterpret anything. Please show me where in your previous posts you wrote you went to a T-Mobile store. The only thing you wrote was you had the receipt and T-Mobile never heard of the store. Logical to assume you didn't go to a T-Mobile store from that description.

Yea. Whatever.
landshark68 said:
I didn't make a stupid mistake and misinterpret anything. Please show me where in your previous posts you wrote you went to a T-Mobile store. The only thing you wrote was you had the receipt and T-Mobile never heard of the store. Logical to assume you didn't go to a T-Mobile store from that description.
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OK Your right, i didn't meantion it. You feel like your testosterone levels have increase now? Jesus.
From the moment you've replied to my posts you've had an attitude that is barely detectable.
Thanks for your help but you need to get out more and learn some people skills,dude. ****.

Look dude, we get it. You went and bought a new toy and couldnt wait to play with it. We're all guilty of that at some point. But blaming your mistakes on someone else, like when you blame the devs for not being straight forward with their roms, although with every example you have given here they really have been, all you need to do is read their posts, you'll get what your getting now. The only one you have to blame here is yourself. For not researching what you have first and just jumping into flashing a rom that was not developed for the phone you actually have. We tried to help you out and point you in the right direction but you decided to be the one with the attitude. Not landshark or my self. I think before you shell out advice on leaening people skills to someone else, you might want to practice what you preach first.

Hello,i need help, i was trying to root my wifes samsung s5 G900F with lollipop , and used in download mode odin with CF-Auto-Root-klte-kltexx-smg900f.tar with only auto reboot checked and after rebbot gave an error and went again to download mode tried to install openrecovery-twrp-2.8.1.0-klte now with f.reset time checked also, with error of not been able to open mtp. made shutdown and tried to turn on phone and now it doesnt work nothing, not even light when charging.
can somenone help...