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Working to a strict budget on upgrading. Help appreciated.

Now that the N1 is 'obsolete' and ICS isn't coming I feel as though it may be time to move on.
This may take a while though as I effectively have no money and the money I get from the N1 is the majority of what I can spend.
Basically the deal is that I can get either £85 quickly from a recycle site or no more than £100-120 selling my N1 and from Ebay I have found that for this with some lucky bidding I could get a nice used LG Optimus 2X or Motorola Atrix.
Not exactly the best N1 replacements but both have Tegra 2 and are good for the money.
This will be a depressing upgrade and I'll miss this forum but its time for my N1 to go.
If anyone in the UK has any hints for getting a cheapish replacement with better hardware please tell me. The limit is £120 really, thats all I can spare.
If I don't post between now and then, goodbye and thanks everyone!

Are you completely missing the thread on ICS AOSP going on over on the dev forum? They are making huge progress. In less than a week we'll have a strong working build... don't give up on the N1 yet!

Yeah sorry I have seen that thread and yes it's brilliant but I just seriously want to move onto another phone now. I've just suffered too many problems from the N1 and being denied ICS kinda tipped me over the edge.
In all fairness though it could take some time to get a replacement this way so I will be keeping involved with that thread.
But the N1 just isn't for me anymore...

If it were me then and I wanted to upgrade within that price range, the Atrix is a good choice... However, I would rather find a Nexus S though to upgrade to ICS sooner. The devs for that phone are making huge progress and it is now fully functional. I bet you could find a good condition used NS if you're interested, but know in advance that the specs aren't really that different than the N1. Well, good luck anyway...

I am in the same boat the denial of ICS for the n1, kinda set me off, only reason I am looking for a new phone. Luckily for my n1 I can't afford a new one for a while, and texasice and many other brilliant people have been working on a good soon to be fully stable and functioning build. I haven't tried alpha 8 or 9 yet. But was quite happy with them.
Problem is, I have yet to find a phone that I can even say is remotely a good replacement. I wanted the T-Mobile G2 to be it, but it was just way to big. Love the having the keyboard though.
But I know how you feel. I don't think anyone would buy mine, it slid down a roof screen down, and scratched up, a corner of the glass is broke (in an non multi-touch functioning area).
Best of luck to you in finding a home. Hopefully someone here would love to buy it. I would for my girlfriend, as she hates her Samsung Captivate. But I don't have no money too lol.

Maybe a tip -however, above your proposed budget: I'm in the same ship, leaving my (really loved!) N1 because of lack of ICS support from Google.
Here in the Netherlands you can get Nexus S for eur 250, simlock-free; as for me, the best choice at this moment. You can order one at different sites (belsimpel.nl, phoneshop.nl, etc), eur 250 for a Google phone, getting ICS update among the first looks me a good deal/ upgrade of my loved N1.

Why not wait for a new quad core phone? No point in buying other obsolete hardware like an atrix. I personally wouldn't get anything less than a Galaxy Nexus, and even that is dual core.
Just wait for a WXGA quad core phone. Your nexus still has life in it! I just switched to MIUI and that will keep me happy until ICS gets hardware acceleration. You will regret upgrading now in a few months.

darx said:
Why not wait for a new quad core phone? No point in buying other obsolete hardware like an atrix. I personally wouldn't get anything less than a Galaxy Nexus, and even that is dual core.
Just wait for a WXGA quad core phone. Your nexus still has life in it! I just switched to MIUI and that will keep me happy until ICS gets hardware acceleration. You will regret upgrading now in a few months.
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Yeah sure if you can get the OP a quad core for £120 like he said he had available. I'm in the same boat myself and the Atrix is the only dual core for that price range. Even got me thinking about it but I hate the MotoBlur crap its infected with and not removable from what I've seen although can be somewhat hidden which makes me think Nexus S maybe my best option.
At least if your gonna give advice read the OP first properly before commenting.

Have you tried comparemymobile dot com?

Before you completely give up on your N1, I suggest you give the ICS cm9 ROM a try. It made me fall in love with my n1 all over again lol. The latest update is really fluid and stable. Well that is just my opinion, wouldn't hurt to try.

joelp228 said:
Before you completely give up on your N1, I suggest you give the ICS cm9 ROM a try. It made me fall in love with my n1 all over again lol. The latest update is really fluid and stable. Well that is just my opinion, wouldn't hurt to try.
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im with this guy, im runing the latest alpha ICS rom for a couple of days now as a daily driver and im loving it and this is just the alpha...
if thats not enough to keep the good old n1 then go for the nexus s its pretty cheap and is getting official ics... though i personally hate plastic samsung hehe

Yeah, if you're working on a budget, there is no practical reason to upgrade from the Nexus One.
If you can get a slightly better phone, it will not be worth it. Take your current budget and keep it in a safe place for the Nexus 4 next year. Right now you won't be getting your money's worth. And the Nexus One is a great phone that will have a good ICS rom soon.
I could spend the money to upgrade to the Galaxy Nexus, it's not so much a budget problem, but a practicality problem. My phone is great, and will last me another year.

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Yeah, if you're working on a budget, there is no practical reason to upgrade from the Nexus One.
If you can get a slightly better phone, it will not be worth it. Take your current budget and keep it in a safe place for the Nexus 4 next year. Right now you won't be getting your money's worth. And the Nexus One is a great phone that will have a good ICS rom soon.
I could spend the money to upgrade to the Galaxy Nexus, it's not so much a budget problem, but a practicality problem. My phone is great, and will last me another year.
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The Nexus One really is the best of what is available within our price range, I just really don't like the styling of the Nexus S and its cheap arse casing and for what I gain it is not enough to tear me away from my trackball colour notifications
So for me I'm gonna buy it a Christmas present of a brand new housing and feel happy knowing that although considered 'old' now she still has the legs to more than stand her own.

Nexus S +s:
nfc?
Google talk video/voice chat?
Short term ICS?

Still with my N1
joelp228 said:
Before you completely give up on your N1, I suggest you give the ICS cm9 ROM a try. It made me fall in love with my n1 all over again lol. The latest update is really fluid and stable. Well that is just my opinion, wouldn't hurt to try.
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I agree with you. My 2 year's old N1 tastes ICS (thanks to blackrose and texasice!!). A new beginning without any cost!! Don't care if google doesn't support, devs are here to do the job and it's a great job. Thanks to all of them. Just have to wait few more days (Christmas present?) to have a beta version but alpha11 is quite good!

Buy a Galaxy Note now or wait.....and dispair

Well I have been reading about people asking the same questions for a while but my situation is a bit different.
My current device is a HD2 EU and my only 2 smartphones have been this one and the Xperia X1.
Both of them very good and I can't complaint about anything as they have served me well, well beyond what the manufacturers would like them to. This of course was only possible due to the tired-less work of all the developers here on XDA.
Well but now I have decided to sell my HD2 and I need a substitute. In 10 min the auction will end and by tomorrow I will not have a smartphone
As soon as the reviews of the Note started to show up I thought to myself that this one would be a device for me. I remember people saying that the HD2 was huge back in 2009 and today it is considered a normal sized device.
The question that concerns me is that I have am about to spend a lot of money on the Galaxy Note, right now that the Quad-Cores are coming out.
I normally buy my phones of eBay, but the price of it new with a 2 year warranty is almost the same (maybe 30 euros more expensive) than used in a very good condition.
Should I get something much worst like a the original Galaxy S of eBay and wait for the Note 2 to arrive. Or should I buy a new Note from Germany for 430 Euros?
Thank you all for your help.

I wouldn't wait for the Galaxy Note 2 because there's absolutely no rumor about it yet, so it might not get released very soon. And I would definitely not get a Galaxy S right now, because it's really outdated. Better go for a Note, S3 or even an S2.

I have a Galaxy S. I love it, but yeah it's outdated now. I am toying with the idea of a Note or waiting for a Note2 also. I am going to start doing my research now...

HD2 was a great device, when HTC was top of the game. Things have definitely changed.
I guess for your requirements (going for the best device currently) you have there options.
1. Galaxy note, the display is what makes this device, it is unbeatable.
2. HTC one x, again, I think HTC have had their day with market beating devices. I've seen a lot of reports that the new sense ui just doesn't work, ie causes fcs an awful lot. IM sure they'll update it.
3. Galaxy s 3. Personally I think it beats the HTC one x hands down.
But as a note owner, I would say that quad core just can't be utilised properly as yet, you'll see a lot of google reports saying that dual cores are actually still favoured for coping with more threads and therefore comparible performance over quad. If your looking for visuals as well as performance, the note can't be beat, I've looked at one alongside a galaxy nexus and there really isn't any comparison, you get sooo much more from the note.
That being said, nfc is pretty spectacular if it's somethings you'd use and that is the only thing I crave after.
It's without a doubt that there will be a lot of spectacular devices being released in upcoming months, probably most next gen performance handsets around September or October. It's a tough time to make a decision. All the best.
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Thank you all for your quick replies. Especially SpiderTracks (+1), I will most probably just go and order mine from Germany (so that it has the ICS update and it's a bit cheaper).
Before Note came out I was considering getting a Tablet, but then it struck me. I have a desktop PC for heavy lifting, I have a Ultra portable 11,6 Notebook with 7h of battery for portability and when I am surfing in my living room, I have a Smartphone which can also surf reasonably well when needed so if I get a tablet I will have 4 devices that do +/- the same thing and I am only one .
After this reflection I went and sold my desktop PC, as I never got to use it now that I am a father and I have no time for gaming. I also sold my HD2 (the auction just finished so I already have some €€ to help me with the Note purchase).
I am drawn to the Galaxy Note not because it has a dual core CPU, but because it promises to be a hybrid between a tablet and a smatphone. If I can brows comfortably with it, read e-books and still use all the features that HD2 has like GPS, calling, texting, etc. I will be glad with it.
I am just a bit disappointed by the S-pen reviews, as I would love to use it as my minutes taker when I have complicated meetings, but if I can not write reliably and fast on it as many reviewers say, than it has not much use to me.

Johev said:
Thank you all for your quick replies. Especially SpiderTracks (+1), I will most probably just go and order mine from Germany (so that it has the ICS update and it's a bit cheaper).
Before Note came out I was considering getting a Tablet, but then it struck me. I have a desktop PC for heavy lifting, I have a Ultra portable 11,6 Notebook with 7h of battery for portability and when I am surfing in my living room, I have a Smartphone which can also surf reasonably well when needed so if I get a tablet I will have 4 devices that do +/- the same thing and I am only one .
After this reflection I went and sold my desktop PC as I never got to use it now that I am a father and I have not much time for gaming and I also sold my HD2 (the auction just finished so I already have some €€ help for the Note purchase).
I am drawn to Note not because it has a dual core CPU, but because it premisses to be a hybrid between a tablet and a smatphone. If I can brows comfortably with it, read e-books and still use all the features that HD2 has like GPS I will be glad with it.
I am just a bit disappointed by the S-pen reviews, as I would love to use it as my minutes taker when I have complicated meetings, but if I can not write reliably and fast on it as many reviewers say, than it has not much use to me.
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All this and more, took my HOX back after 3 days, combination of **** battery life and just general poor performance.
Have had my Note for 24 hours or so now and have to say im glad I paid the extra to get it.
Am slightly disappointed by the writing with the S Pen, though i'm sure that Samsung being Samsung wont let rest as it is, no doubt they will be some ROM work upcoming which will let you take advantage of this tool.
I have had a couple of strange looks in the office though while using it today, including at one point someone asking me if I had an iPad to my ear!!!

Johev said:
I am drawn to Note not because it has a dual core CPU, but because it promises to be a hybrid between a tablet and a smatphone. If I can brows comfortably with it, read e-books and still use all the features that HD2 has like GPS I will be glad with it.
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I was thinking so when I was bought my notes (I will have pocket Tablet ) ... I do not like android but there is nothing similar on the market (Apple is too expensive)
The truth is that I am disappointed with the Note. I think I was wrong because not bought a tablet (the phone is still a phone). I think I'll wait a little ... to wait WP8 ... and then I'll sell it.
greeting

Johev said:
Thank you all for your quick replies. Especially SpiderTracks (+1), I will most probably just go and order mine from Germany (so that it has the ICS update and it's a bit cheaper).
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German Notes dont come with ICS pre installed. SO you will have to kies Download or OTA the update - dont know if that works from india.
Also the official ICS update has LPY kernel and is therefore a risk of bricking your device.
For me, a simple factory reset from the settings menu bricked my Note.
I got my replacement today and installed the newest cm9 nightly without any problems. Thats also the only ICS rom wihtout the risky LPY kernel.
If i where you, i wouldn't buy from germany to get official ICS. Just buy where you can get it cheap.
By the way: i think you can write quite reliable with the S-pen. I was a bit disappointed too, as i thought the pressure sensitivity would be more noteable. But after installing sketchbook pro and ICS thats no issue anymore.
The samsung apps do quite e good job for quick memos. For long meeting memos you might want to get a fullscreen app with more specific features as the screen is not on the big side for writing.

Johev said:
Well I have been reading about people asking the same questions for a while but my situation is a bit different.
My current device is a HD2 EU and my only 2 smartphones have been this one and the Xperia X1.
Both of them very good and I can't complaint about anything as they have served me well, well beyond what the manufacturers would like them to. This of course was only possible due to the tired-less work of all the developers here on XDA.
Well but now I have decided to sell my HD2 and I need a substitute. In 10 min the auction will end and by tomorrow I will not have a smartphone
As soon as the reviews of the Note started to show up I thought to myself that this one would be a device for me. I remember people saying that the HD2 was huge back in 2009 and today it is considered a normal sized device.
The question that concerns me is that I have am about to spend a lot of money on the Galaxy Note, right now that the Quad-Cores are coming out.
I normally buy my phones of eBay, but the price of it new with a 2 year warranty is almost the same (maybe 30 euros more expensive) than used in a very good condition.
Should I get something much worst like a the original Galaxy S of eBay and wait for the Note 2 to arrive. Or should I buy a new Note from Germany for 430 Euros?
Thank you all for your help.
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i will suggest u really sincerely! Note is a really great device! it is an awesome piece of technology and i definitely would recommend this phone to everyone! but the fact is it is not everyday thing that u go for such an expensive phone. everyone knows the fact that samsung is UGLY at software updates! it does provide next to no support to its phones! i know many of you would be thinking this to be wrong and i should let u all know that would be just for the sake of commenting not the reality! this is the reality that samsung does not provide DESERVING support to its phones!
lets come to the topic! i would recommend u personally and sincerely that u should wait for either S3 or even the Next Galaxy Nexus phone! YES its about to come! it will be equipped with even more better GPU! the Mali-T604. u might also look for the Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet! go for the Note if you have LOADS of money!!!

Note all the way.
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I want to thank you all for your precious advice. I am considering it all along with my research, but I can't justify spending 380 euros on a phone that is not the Galaxy NOTE. For example the Nexus S is the same price as the German NOTE and the Galaxy SII is about -50 euros cheaper than the NOTE so I cannot justify getting them.
The HTC ONE X is about 100 euros more expensive (650 euros), and so far the reviews have not been great. It is not much smaller than the NOTE without its' flexibility and battery life.
So let’s hope that I get a good one without many bugs, nevertheless I have a 2 year guarantee which I intend to use if something is wrong.
shorty66 said:
German Notes dont come with ICS pre installed. SO you will have to kies Download or OTA the update - dont know if that works from india.
Also the official ICS update has LPY kernel and is therefore a risk of bricking your device.
For me, a simple factory reset from the settings menu bricked my Note.
I got my replacement today and installed the newest cm9 nightly without any problems. Thats also the only ICS rom wihtout the risky LPY kernel.
If i where you, i wouldn't buy from germany to get official ICS. Just buy where you can get it cheap.
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Thank you for the information. Could you please elaborate a bit on it? I understand that it does not come with ICS pre-installed and that I would need to do the update myself, which is not a problem as it is an official one. This is the first time that I read that a phone can be bricked by flashing official updates without a powecut (which can be solved by a laptop) or the USB cord getting disconnected in the middle of the flashing process.
Do all the German G.NOTEs come with this bug or not? The difference in price from buying one in Belgium is about 50-100 euros cheaper to get it from Germany that is why I was considering it. As the ROM is multilingual, and I never use the manual anyway the only prerequisite is being unlocked which they are.
So if you could explain that a bit I would greatly appreciate it.
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lets come to the topic! i would recommend u personally and sincerely that u should wait for either S3 or even the Next Galaxy Nexus phone! YES its about to come! it will be equipped with even more better GPU! the Mali-T604. u might also look for the Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet! go for the Note if you have LOADS of money!!!
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I don’t have loads of money, that is why I am approaching this purchase very cautiously, but as I explained in the beginning of this reply from the economic point of view it looks like a smart choice when compared to the rest.
All of my smartphones were bought second hand from eBay but in very good conditions, nevertheless the price of a G.Note on ebay that is in good condition is so close to the price of a new one from a reliable shop and a 2 year guarantee that I just can’t justify getting it anywhere else.
Let’s hope I won’t regret it in 2 or 3 months

The note has bottomed out over 200 pounds over here in UK since release, I think it's fantastic value.
Seriously, once you experience the screen, coupled with performance, you won't want anything smaller, it's awesome! All the best
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SpyderTracks said:
The note has bottomed out over 200 pounds over here in UK since release, I think it's fantastic value.
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Do we live in the same UK? I've nosing around and the cheapest used (fairly mint condition) was 310 quid on gumtree. Care to share more info on cheap Note(s)?
thanks

200 quid, must be dodgy, nothing cheaper than 300 gt, 350 eb, probably in Dave the raves pucker deals r us its 200 spondulies
Sent from a galaxy note far far away

The next best phone is always around the corner
Buy now and enjoy now lol
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baz77 said:
The next best phone is always around the corner
Buy now and enjoy now lol
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Very true!
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My Note experience
I would like to share my Note experience.
I am using it now for about 2 months and I am really really very happy with it!
The Note is absolutely a unique phone, with its huge and wonderful display and its amazing S-pen.
It took me some time, but now I find myself using more the pen than the finger!
I am also starting again to write with my hand! that's so cool! It was already forgotten - just typing and typing... but now I can write!
So, when I want to send a more personal email, I do it on hand-write! It feels so natural - and there is no one that doesn't wonder about it!
And this experience ONLY the Note can offer!
It surely is not a phone for every one, because it is big! But I am big and have big hands and pockets, so for me is ok.
The decision is yours, but I would warmly recommend you to get your Note as soon as possible!
Regarding bricks, don't worry - just avoid doing factory reset or full wipes, and that's it! This forum is full of safe guides - so just follow them.
My Note I upgraded to ICS using Odin with stock FW (LPY) to avoid waranty void. So far I can say that the ICS upgrade gave the Note an even better experience, including the Premium apps for the S-pen.
The Note 2 will be probably announced just in October, so it means at least 6 months wait and, of course, higher prices too, especially now that the Note prices droped a lot, making it an incredible bargain for a premium phone it is!
Go for it!!!

cmick30 said:
Do we live in the same UK? I've nosing around and the cheapest used (fairly mint condition) was 310 quid on gumtree. Care to share more info on cheap Note(s)?
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I got mine for 600 smackers in november, i meant its come down 200 since then... God i wish it was 200
please hit thanks if i helped

I have just buy today a Note. So, you know my recomendation
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cacharreo said:
I have just buy today a Note. So, you know my recomendation
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I got mine since 2 days!

How good is this phone

hi im a zte blade user but am looking to buy a new phone. ive done research on this phone but wanted to know whether this phone is really worth the upgrade? if anyone can help answer a few question that would be awesome
- is this phone fast, in terms of games, multitasking and just browsing through the screens and app drawer etc
- what is the rom development like for this phone, do you reckon it will get any of the latest updates soon?
- is it worth £130?
thanks in advance if anyone can help

- Yes, it is quite snappy. I have yet to find something that will make it unacceptably laggy or slow.
- The latest complete release is Gingerbread. Newer releases (ICS, JB) are in the making and should be just around the corner, it all depends on when will Motorola release their own version so devs can extract proper hardware drivers from it.
- Is that brand new? Then sure, otherwise it can easily be found for significantly less.

i think this is a pretty good phone.
1) Yes. Very snappy and smooth. And thats on GB. On JB (unofficial CM10), it flies! Totally awesome!
2) Rom development...well, its not that bad, but could be better. We have all the latest roms available, but as of right now, we only have one dev that actually owns an Atrix. Others devs are blind building. Not that they are doing a bad job, in fact, they are doing terrific job blind building, my respect for them.
3) Don't know. Got it for around 170$ used a couple of months back.
Offtopic: Lets wait for ATRIX_LOVER to come in, and flame this phone like there is no tomorrow. Lol.

If I broke mine I would be searching Ebay for a good deal on another Atrix 4G.The one I have now I got for $162.50

It's a good phone for the money you pay. Very easy to repair, so if you're on a tight budget, broken screens etc are a cheap fix compared to other phones (no glue used etc.) You can get a cheap lapdock, for less than the price of gs2 you can have a pad and a phone.
Performance wise, Tegra 2 benchmarks about the same as a dual core 800MHz chip of the current generation of phones. Not rocket fast, but definitely smooth enough. Games compiled for Tegra 2 perform much better than you would expect as the ulv geforce is a competent GPU. Lack of neon extensions means that apps not optimised for T2 take a performance hit. This will become more of an issue as time goes on; T3 has simd extensions put back in so there's little incentive for developers to keep two code paths. It does have an unlocked bootloader available, a huge bonus for dev support. On the other hand, being a Tegra 2 based phone means it will never reach the popularity of the likes of sg2 or some HTC phones.
We are promised an official ICS ROM within the next couple of months, you can expect good support up to Jelly Bean: after that, not so much.
Imho, it's a bargain for the prices it's sold at, especially if you get a lapdock at the same time. You get a phone and a pad for, essentially, the price of a low/mid range phone.
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It's a good phone. £130 seems like a good deal. I wouldn't pay anything above £160 for it.
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We are promised an official ICS ROM within the next couple of months, you can expect good support up to Jelly Bean: after that, not so much.
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Unless Android's next version still uses ICS drivers.

thanks for all the replies,
i can get the phone used for £130, which is on its own (no lapdock) i think that is a good price and within my budget.
i cant seem to find any other phone with similar or better specs at this price unless someone could point me in the right direction?
thanks again

ropin1 said:
thanks for all the replies,
i can get the phone used for £130, which is on its own (no lapdock) i think that is a good price and within my budget.
i cant seem to find any other phone with similar or better specs at this price unless someone could point me in the right direction?
thanks again
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You might be able to pick up an LG optimus 2x for slightly cheaper than the atrix. It has the same tegra processor as the atrix. Even has hdmi. Main difference is that it has 512mb ram whereas atrix has double that.
I've used both and there's no noticeable difference in performance when running the cm7 roms.
If it's possible you might want to wait and see if either phone is getting official ics. The LG owners are in a similar position as us regarding updates
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ropin1 said:
thanks for all the replies,
i can get the phone used for £130, which is on its own (no lapdock) i think that is a good price and within my budget.
i cant seem to find any other phone with similar or better specs at this price unless someone could point me in the right direction?
thanks again
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For a little more you could get an HTC Sensation. I'd say that the Sensation is harder to unlock and has pluses and minuses from the Atrix. Personally I prefer the Atrix but the Sensation might be a better bet forthe future given the liklihood of ongoing support/development.

[Q] Defy+ (Buy or not buy?)

Hello guys ... I have a enormous doubt! I want a smartphone fast, tough, different. which can get in the water. And that is not too expensive!
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Researched and the best I found was the Moto Defy +. I want the opinion of you about this phone, remembering that I live in Brazil and here the network is GSM.
What you have to say? Thank you in advance.

arthur.uba said:
Hello guys ... I have a enormous doubt! I want a smartphone fast, tough, different. which can get in the water. And that is not too expensive!
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Researched and the best I found was the Moto Defy +. I want the opinion of you about this phone, remembering that I live in Brazil and here the network is GSM.
What you have to say? Thank you in advance.
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You are asking your question in a Defy forum,
How much are you paying and what other phones are available to you at a similar price?
Defy is now a 2-3 year old phone, but can run latest Android JellyBean although not supported by Motorola.
It is a fairly fast device (once bloatware is removed), but newer devices are much faster.
It is very tough and water resistant.
Don't know about "different". What do you mean by "different"?

_ossie_ said:
You are asking your question in a Defy forum,
How much are you paying and what other phones are available to you at a similar price?
Defy is now a 2-3 year old phone, but can run latest Android JellyBean although not supported by Motorola.
It is a fairly fast device (once bloatware is removed), but newer devices are much faster.
It is very tough and water resistant.
Don't know about "different". What do you mean by "different"?
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Thinking the side of years. you're right! But I live in a third world country. Today's phones are expensive here!
"Different" in the sense of something new. For me the phone is looking good. I have no intention of upgrading the android, unless they can prove that it is better to upgrade. My intentions are the basics, put some games some applications, customize it my way and uses it quite in the pool.
So I asked the opinions of people who know better the phone than me. This mobile can offer me what I want?

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arthur.uba said:
Thinking the side of years. you're right! But I live in a third world country. Today's phones are expensive here!
"Different" in the sense of something new. For me the phone is looking good. I have no intention of upgrading the android, unless they can prove that it is better to upgrade. My intentions are the basics, put some games some applications, customize it my way and uses it quite in the pool.
So I asked the opinions of people who know better the phone than me. This mobile can offer me what I want?
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Brazil being a third world country? what the F are you talking about? what ossie says is true, defy is a great mobile but now there are other better options, like the galaxy ace 2, or the s plus even the s3 mini comes in a acquirable price, besides the "normal" defy mb525 (red lenses) is cheaper and has the same defy+ hardware. About the defy's water resistance... I don't know, never have tried it, but some people says it does resist, others have had bad experiences with water. I would say, compare those other's prices and features, and choose as you will

first of all, the Defy/+ is very durable. I'd say that there is no other phone out there that is waterproof and durable like the Defy. It's true though that it is "old" and the Hardware is not up to date anymore.
There are other phone that are also dust and water-resitant like the Sony Acro S. You might wanna check that one out. It's not as durable as the defy though but its hardware is much better.

I've bough my defy like 2 months ago and I'm glad I didnt buy Galaxy S. The phone is awesome. You can play games, talk while its raining and u've got no umbrella (it happened to me once) without even care ur phone will be a crap after that.

Should i buy oneplus one ?

Hello,
i have a Samsung S3 right now with CM11 nightly. It is pretty good and stable. Drivers are not perfect. Expecially camera drivers.
I would like to buy a new device. I have waited for N6 and unfortunally it is too big, too thick e too expensive. So I am thinking to buy a Oneplus One.
I have read around about touchscreen issue. It is fixed ? Drivers in Cyanogen are stable ?
I want a stable phone for daily use. It is ok to test new rom o new kernel sometimes, but i need a stable phone to work with.
What you think ? Should i buy one ?
Thank you !

I have the OPO and its been over 2 month i'm using it!The phone is great and so are the drivers!No touchscreen issues for me!I use multi rom to test new rooms!I think you should go with the oneplus!

alfredolo said:
Hello,
i have a Samsung S3 right now with CM11 nightly. It is pretty good and stable. Drivers are not perfect. Expecially camera drivers.
I would like to buy a new device. I have waited for N6 and unfortunally it is too big, too thick e too expensive. So I am thinking to buy a Oneplus One.
I have read around about touchscreen issue. It is fixed ? Drivers in Cyanogen are stable ?
I want a stable phone for daily use. It is ok to test new rom o new kernel sometimes, but i need a stable phone to work with.
What you think ? Should i buy one ?
Thank you !
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I think before making a new thread for a question thats been asked a million times before and an answer that only you can answer you should search for what others have said. Here are only a few I found real quick that can help you out. Lets be honest as well you are asking about rooting your phone and will it be stable. You can read up on any rom you like and find out if its stable but honestly there all based off of cm which is quite stable at this moment. If you are worried stay stock.
First link stock rooted where I would go to ask or rather read up to see just how stable the stock rom is... At least its a starting point. My bad if you think I am being an ass but your question is slightly subjective and all your answers are out there for you. Again my bad
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/development/rom-stock-rooted-4-4-4-xnph38r-t2898098
http://www.androidcentral.com/oneplus-one-updated-today-fix-touchscreen-issues
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/problem-touchscreen-sensibility-issue.60373/
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/why-you-should-buy-one-plus-one-and-not-other-phone.96351/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2685348
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/to-t2905794
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/which-phone-should-i-buy.153613/

OnePlus One fits a niche crowd, people who like to tinker with their devices and want a true powerhouse to take advantage of. There is also a subset of users that would want a pure-ish Android experience with a customizable interface minus the fluff that comes with a skinned interface like TouchWiz or Sense.
As it stands, I like CyanogenMod without any further tweaks. The phone runs well and doesn't give me many issues to worry about. (Note: no phone is perfect)

If you need mhl, hell no. Otherwise it's the best phone out right now...
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If you haven't got a phone yet. Then just wait and see how the nexus 6 going to be, then make a decision
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scabbie1980 said:
If you haven't got a phone yet. Then just wait and see how the nexus 6 going to be, then make a decision
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Yes though it depends on budget as well I guess. Dollar for dollar I think the OnePlus is still a better buy, however if it's within budget the nexus 6 is clearly the better phone overall.
Mmm bacon

Thnk you all for reply.
I have readed a lot about OPO. I dont like N6, it is big, fat, heavy and expencive. I prefere a 5.5 inc display.
The main problem about OPO are the yellow band and touchscreen issue, that are not resolved with 38R.
I will wait till that problems will be resolved, later i will buy one.
Thank you all !

Its definitely the best smartphone for its price range right now. I have been using it over two month now and i did not have any issue.
Before i bought it, i too was worried about the yellow band problem. But until now I never get the yellow band or touch screen problem.
OnePlus One is perfectly fine and great performance. After i got this phone i immediately try antutu benchmark and suprised that it got the first ranking. That is something to brag to your friends.
As for the rom, CM11S is really stable for daily use and i did not have any problems with it. Great multitasking, smooth gaming, nice camera performance, great speaker quality and great battery life. Plus i heard that they are working to release Android L update for OPO. Cant wait for that. Even if you still want custom rom, most of them that i tried are stable for daily use.

dr.m0x said:
Yes though it depends on budget as well I guess. Dollar for dollar I think the OnePlus is still a better buy, however if it's within budget the nexus 6 is clearly the better phone overall.
Mmm bacon
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It also depend on how long you're going to keep this phone also. I get at lease 2 phones a year. I have the oneplus one and it always seem like I go back to the Note 3.... But the nexus 6 will be a phone you can keep for another year

alfredolo said:
Thnk you all for reply.
I have readed a lot about OPO. I dont like N6, it is big, fat, heavy and expencive. I prefere a 5.5 inc display.
The main problem about OPO are the yellow band and touchscreen issue, that are not resolved with 38R.
I will wait till that problems will be resolved, later i will buy one.
Thank you all !
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Ok if you have read then you also know that not everyone has these issues and the touchscreen issue was software related and those on 38r saying they still have an issue could be user error or faulty devices. Now lets be honest 1+ has sold quite a few devices and I know of at least half a dozen people with them. With that being said I am the only one with yellow banding and its barely noticeable and since the update no one has the touchscreen issue.
Why do so many allow the voices of the few decide for them. At the end of the day it is your decision and if you have done your research then YOU are making the best choice for you....

I've had the s3 and was running cm11 with oneplus mods on it and I can say it doesn't compare.
This phone is ridiculous, it amazingly fast and I have had no problems.
I ordered mine on Saturday and it came yesterday so I've only had a day with it so far but I'm so impressed, would recommend to anyone.

I had a G3, Note3, Z2 and this OPO It's the most incredible smartphone. And the feature that we can unlock bootloader and not lose the warranty is the best!

darkblazer said:
I had a G3, Note3, Z2 and this OPO It's the most incredible smartphone. And the feature that we can unlock bootloader and not lose the warranty is the best!
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The G3 was the 16Gb (2GB ram) or 32GB (3GB ram) version?
I'm thinking of buying the oneplus 64GB or the G3 32GB, but i really can't choose which one...

Ive got the 64gb sandstone black, had it for 3 weeks now, worth every penny. At this point the company is well situated and running at full speed, buy with confidence and you will not be disappointed.

You should buy and have a try yourself. For me, this phone is better than expected.

Phone is amazing, period. Get it if you can
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For sure. I've been pleased with the phone. The size is nice for me even with my small hands, the battery stands on its own, its plenty fast, many ROMs and kernels to enjoy and for the price what more can you ask for.

This phone should of been the new Nexus 6. Tons of development here
SlimKat or SlimPop

As someone who was in love with my previous phone, nexus 5. The OnePlus is the best phone at market price-wise. If it was priced in the same range as N5 or N6, I would definitely chose a N phone. Software-wise it is kinda buggy (both cm11 and cm11s) and hardware-wise (touchscreen and yellow screen)
I would wait until n6, and then make a choice, because the n6 isn't that much bigger then the OnePlusOne, but damn expensive.
I think I will sell my OnePlusOne when the n6 hit the market, cause I really miss the wireless charging.
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