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Hey i need help, i got this htc hd2 from a friend, even when its on idle every time i check my running apps i still see a lot of programs running!no data, sync off, wifi off!why is this so?
Hyperdroid cm7 magldr, thats my rom!any suggestions?
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dktabasa said:
Hey i need help, i got this htc hd2 from a friend, even when its on idle every time i check my running apps i still see a lot of programs running!no data, sync off, wifi off!why is this so?
Hyperdroid cm7 magldr, thats my rom!any suggestions?
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Why not just kill those apps? Plus, so long as they aren't causing high battery drain it really doesn't matter. Some things like FB, GMaps, Email etc. just pop up randomly even when auto-sync is off, but normally they don't affect the phone much at all.

try Autorun killers
Try using autorun kill apps, i'm using "Autostarts" and it's good , it organizes apps by events so you can decide which periods you want to kill apps totally, like afterstartup, duringstartup, .... etc.
i killed google play, Maps and eMail and some apps that launch at startup and it works fine
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dktabasa said:
Hey i need help, i got this htc hd2 from a friend, even when its on idle every time i check my running apps i still see a lot of programs running!no data, sync off, wifi off!why is this so?
Hyperdroid cm7 magldr, thats my rom!any suggestions?
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A lot of things are going to start up by themselves, it depends what is set at start use an autostart profram to disable some. But even so, when you kill an app, it sometimes force starts again because well its supposed to. YOu have to go into that program and remove every background service from it in the settings menu if you can. Also some apps are placed in the "empty applications" OOM grouping.. Androids memory management is really hard to fully understand.. the apps in empty applications group are pretty pointless. They do nothing. No CPU usage. THere is a webpage which greatly explains what each group does and i dont remember where it is -.- sorry just google "Android OOM groupings explained" and it should get you some results

Thanks so much for the responses guys!appreciate it
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[Q] turn on APN internet automatically

I just switched over from WM, because of the battery life i don't like to leaving date on. When i would click for anything that required data it would automatically turn on Ex. Internet, Shazam... is there any setting, widget, or app that can do that with android
Try Juice Defender, it will save your battery in alot of ways, including automatically turning off your data when you arent using it, in fact you might want to get the pay version of it if you like the way the free version helps your battery. Remember, you buy pay apps, they can be used from build to build, so buy it once, u get it for every build u run. Well worth it imo
+1 for Juice Defender.
Also, Tasker is an amazing app that allows you to create your own automator actions. So you can create an action that turns on data when you launch certain apps and turn it off when you exit. Its really powerful and does so much more than I can even describe here, you really have to just try it. It is a paid app, but well worth it. It takes some practice/learning, but sounds like it's exactly what you're looking for.
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Thanks a lot guys, for now I'm gonna try the juiceydefender ACDSee how that works
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100% CPU usage with new its update.

Hear reports that the new its update giveaway the 100% CPU usage problem back even with debugging on. Is this true?
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Have a look at post 165 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885030&page=17
Seems to do the trick for me! (so far anyways!)
had the same 100% cpu after OTA problem,tried almost everything im aware of (ending some tasks,reboots,unistalling apps) but nothing helped me,ended up with factory reseting twice and i got it solved for now.
been monitoring using system pannel and now its more stable.
No such issue for me with the update once everything completed syncing.
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Got this same problem now after update... constant 100% cpu usage, from watchtower it looks like its app called settings storage thats eating cpu time....
yeah for me it's com.android.providers.setings which is killing my battery.
100% in 4 hours!
darkblue68 said:
yeah for me it's com.android.providers.setings which is killing my battery.
100% in 4 hours!
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Guess i'm lucky, killed my battery in 6 and half hours
I just went into stock application manager, force stopped everything i wasnt interested in (sense, friendstream, facebook, stocks, etc). My cpu useage dropped from 100% to more typical 3 to 20% and has been fine since.
As i stopped so many applications i dont know which was the culprit.
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Sorry for basic question but how do you get CPU use %?
l0w said:
I just went into stock application manager, force stopped everything i wasnt interested in (sense, friendstream, facebook, stocks, etc). My cpu useage dropped from 100% to more typical 3 to 20% and has been fine since.
As i stopped so many applications i dont know which was the culprit.
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worked for me too, closed htc sense dashboard and another sense app trought the stock app manager...
ImmediateModeService
I have killed the "ImmediateModeService" and now the CPU time is normal.
Which app is this? Someone has a solution for this error? Because always when i restart my DHD the same error comes back.
You could try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8966211&postcount=1
for me there is no more problem with this setting. I think that by killing applications the problem will be repeat again
gmdata said:
You could try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8966211&postcount=1
for me there is no more problem with this setting. I think that by killing applications the problem will be repeat again
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Do you think i must activate USB-Debugging? I have just activated, but theres always the same error.
gmdata said:
You could try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8966211&postcount=1
for me there is no more problem with this setting. I think that by killing applications the problem will be repeat again
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didnt make any difference on my phone, both usb debugging on and off the cpu usage stayed at 100%...
Clearing HTC sense data worked for me
utor99 said:
Clearing HTC sense data worked for me
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Me too! just went to settings - accounts and sync - htc sense - remove account.
CPU was back down to under 20%. Added htc sense again and still got nice low CPU usage.... sense still doesnt work to make the phone ring or find its location but happy that the phone works properly again.
Glad I got that sorted, thanks for the tip!!
It worked for me too. Thanks a lot gays.
gmdata said:
You could try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8966211&postcount=1
for me there is no more problem with this setting. I think that by killing applications the problem will be repeat again
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I can confirm the 100% cpu problem has not returned for me. I suspect that the update did not take into account the current sync status variables. If your phone was in a certain sync state when the ota applied it got stuck in a loop. Force stopping clears all temporary variables so returns the phone to the environment in which htc tested the update. So...the problem should not teturn if u force stop the right app. Similarly a hard reset should do the trick.
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If there are people who are still having CPU/Battery issues then you might want to take a look --> HERE
skullnubien has posted a small guide on how he solved it.
xozzx said:
Me too! just went to settings - accounts and sync - htc sense - remove account.
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Worked for me too

[Q]Default Home Screen?

I have a luncher pro installed. I selected as my default home screen app, it was working fine. Recently every time i press home button i get a window asking me to select default home screen application. It does that at random, even though i checked the box before selecting launcher pro.
You could try clearing the defaults, then set it again. Under Settings - Applications - Manage Applications, find all the launchers and use the Clear data option for each.
Does this happen mainly after a reset? Do you have a app killer? Something that auto clears your caches?
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f1vel66a said:
Does this happen mainly after a reset? Do you have a app killer? Something that auto clears your caches?
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I have a app killer, but i have set the program to be ignored. I also do have a auto cache clearer. Could that be causing the problem? aCCcleaner pro.
xplod420 said:
I have a app killer, but i have set the program to be ignored. I also do have a auto cache clearer. Could that be causing the problem? aCCcleaner pro.
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ATK's are BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD DO NOT USE THEM. 2.2 has them built them into the OS. this has been discussed numerous times.
That is most likely your problem, and you'll notice your battery life will go up as well.
cleaning the cache as nothing to do with. for it to ask you to use the phone is sutting down lancher pro, and removing the default settings, then it's starting back up on your own and since the phone doesn't know what launcher you want to use by default it's going to ask you.
I do have ATK, plus Process Manager. I will get rid of ATK see if it will fix the issue.
xplod420 said:
I do have ATK, plus Process Manager. I will get rid of ATK see if it will fix the issue.
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why are you using Process manager?
neidlinger said:
why are you using Process manager?
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Its something that i have always used, to kill the apps that i was not using. From the Nexus days. Do i not need it? I just don't want apps running in the background and killing my battery and processor. I also have SetSPU for that purpose.
xplod420 said:
Its something that i have always used, to kill the apps that i was not using. From the Nexus days. Do i not need it? I just don't want apps running in the background and killing my battery and processor. I also have SetSPU for that purpose.
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android phones are built off the linux shell.
Linux in nature are multitasking MONSTERS. when you are not using them they are setting dormant not using the processor and not using any resources. Applications in Linux will not run unless you tell them to. From reading the android market it looks like that app isn't running 24/7. But the ATK are constantly running looking for applications to kill, thus killing your battery in the process... On older 1.5 and 1.6 android and lower end units rocking 2.1 ATKs were acceptable, but not recommended, but on newer 2.2 and 2.3 units ATKs are not good.
Well I got rid of ATK, now left with Process Manager and SetCpu. Are you saying that I should get rid of those two as well?
xplod420 said:
Well I got rid of ATK, now left with Process Manager and SetCpu. Are you saying that I should get rid of those two as well?
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no, i'm not saying that in the least a-lot of people use set CPU, that just manages your CPU.
And Processor manager looks like it doesn't run 24/7. You can keep it, i just wouldn't use it unless you have to.
Thanks. We'll see how it goes with just those two running.
neidlinger said:
no, i'm not saying that in the least a-lot of people use set CPU, that just manages your CPU.
And Processor manager looks like it doesn't run 24/7. You can keep it, i just wouldn't use it unless you have to.
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Thanks for jumping in I got busy with work
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thanks for all the help
xplod420 said:
thanks for all the help
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i assume things are running smoother for you?
Download homeswitcher from the market.
And yea... Task killers are evil.
Eeevvviillllll
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neidlinger said:
i assume things are running smoother for you?
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yeap, i don't get that annoying pop up anymore asking me to choose the home launcher.
xplod420 said:
yeap, i don't get that annoying pop up anymore asking me to choose the home launcher.
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i figured ATK was the problem. the last time i ran an ATK i had CM4 on my Magic. When i went to CM5 i used Swapper2 to help with memory management, and from cm6 to cm7 i haven't needed anything at all to make this phone rock.

Task killer.......

I did the grey blur Rom, loving it, but when it got rid of all the bloatware it got rid of my task killer. The one with auto end list. Anyone know how I can attain that again?
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^looking for that too, he means to Task Manager that was on the stock rom.
What for? Read up on task killers.
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Gvndeb60 said:
What for? Read up on task killers.
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I use it to kill a few rogue apps that don't like to turn off and destroy my battery, like Navigon.
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What for? Read up on task killers.
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^ *sigh* There's still a need for it from time to time. That's why it was included in the original ROM, and even my Samsung has it too.
OP, you're stuck with "force stop" or you can download this:
https://market.android.com/details?id=biz.stachibana.FroyoTaskKiller
^ which basically does the same thing as "force stop" but it saves you a few steps to get there, plus it lets you know what apps are also running (which is nice to know in case you need to single out a rogue app on your phone).
It's not as good as the stock task killer, but it will stop any app and sniff out the rogue ones.
Hope that helps...
Ok, just looked and I am running Greyblur and it has the stock task killer still there. Also on the gingerblur thread or site they have a zip file of stick bloatware, could be there.
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ccrows said:
^ *sigh* There's still a need for it from time to time. That's why it was included in the original ROM, and even my Samsung has it too.
OP, you're stuck with "force stop" or you can download this:
https://market.android.com/details?id=biz.stachibana.FroyoTaskKiller
^ which basically does the same thing as "force stop" but it saves you a few steps to get there, plus it lets you know what apps are also running (which is nice to know in case you need to single out a rogue app on your phone).
It's not as good as the stock task killer, but it will stop any app and sniff out the rogue ones.
Hope that helps...
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Was asking a serious question, I have the same phone without the need so I was curious as to what apps are going nuts on their phones....as far as the read up on task killers comment, I was just giving general advise so they are not sweating it if they assumed they needed it.
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Gvndeb60 said:
Was asking a serious question, I have the same phone without the need so I was curious as to what apps are going nuts on their phones....as far as the read up on task killers comment, I was just giving general advise so they are not sweating it if they assumed they needed it.
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No problem, I'm just tired of Task Killer topics that sometimes end up in flame wars...
Gvndeb60 said:
Was asking a serious question, I have the same phone without the need so I was curious as to what apps are going nuts on their phones....as far as the read up on task killers comment, I was just giving general advise so they are not sweating it if they assumed they needed it.
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If you download Autostarts or AutoRun Manager, you'll see apps that restart or start for such asinine reasons. After powering up or rebooting, many apps are set to startup even if you don't use them often. For example, the eBay app will start in the background for such system events as "Application Replaced" or "External apps available". So when I insert my microSD card and I have some .apks backed up on it by Astro, why should the eBay app start up in the background because the media scanner detected there are apks. Don't get me started on Google Maps, there are all sorts of crap that it starts for. I only want GoogleMaps running when I need it running, not when I install a new app or if I unistall an app or replace an app. While it might be great to have an instant lock on my location so I can instantly add to Latitude(which I don't use), it kinda sucks that I'll also be grabbing my charger sooner since it's running in the background.
Most good task managers will help kill those apps and have the option to put certain apps on an exclude to kill list, which gives you control of what is running and what is not. A good way to figure things out is to kill all your running apps in the task manager and see what will restart. You can put the ones you want and need running, such as widgets and apps that get updates, on an exclude to kill list...that helps with the whole "battery drains because app keeps having to restart" argument as to why task managers are "bad." I use Autostarts to prevent apps i don't want running from starting for useless reasons and Advanced Task Manager to force close ones when I don't need them any longer. However, there is a learning curve as to what you shutdown or prevent from running, as it may affect other apps.
illmatic416 said:
If you download Autostarts or AutoRun Manager, you'll see apps that restart or start for such asinine reasons. After powering up or rebooting, many apps are set to startup even if you don't use them often. For example, the eBay app will start in the background for such system events as "Application Replaced" or "External apps available". So when I insert my microSD card and I have some .apks backed up on it by Astro, why should the eBay app start up in the background because the media scanner detected there are apks. Don't get me started on Google Maps, there are all sorts of crap that it starts for. I only want GoogleMaps running when I need it running, not when I install a new app or if I unistall an app or replace an app. While it might be great to have an instant lock on my location so I can instantly add to Latitude(which I don't use), it kinda sucks that I'll also be grabbing my charger sooner since it's running in the background.
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That's the only thing that I miss about Eclair, you could truly lock that sh*t down... *sigh*

Point me to a task killer

Can any1 point me to a task killer which will force kill apps.I am talking about something like the one click task kill in Lewaos rom status bar. Most task killers I have tried only kill apps and those apps come up again automatically. Please help me
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Free ram is waste ram don't use taskillers
If you then also want that sh*** go for taskiller full in playstore
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rishabho1 said:
Free ram is waste ram don't use taskillers
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This. Your phone is not like your PC, so stop treating it like one. The way Android treats memory, having high RAM usage is actually a good thing. Not to mention that aside from being useless and counterproductive, task killers are a huge battery drain.
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rishabho1 said:
Free ram is waste ram don't use taskillers
If you then also want that sh*** go for taskiller full in playstore
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onepinksheep said:
This. Your phone is not like your PC, so stop treating it like one. The way Android treats memory, having high RAM usage is actually a good thing. Not to mention that aside from being useless and counterproductive, task killers are a huge battery drain.
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Okay okay!! Just chill. No need to get that aggressive on this topic. On my phone apps like facebook, friendcaster
etc keep draining battery.Now don't say these r useless too and I should stop using them. I know how android works with Ram and all that. Have been using this fone for over 18 months. I just want to know about dat kind of taskiller
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Well, if battery drain is your problem, then don't use a task killer -- that'll just be compounding the issue. As for how to deal with your battery drain, I've heard some reports about how turning off Facebook sync worked for some people.
Another option would be getting Watchdog Task Manager by Zomut from the Play Store (I've used it myself). It's not the typical task killer since rather than monitoring RAM, it instead keeps an eye on CPU usage (which is what causes battery drain) and notifies you when an app consumes too many CPU cycles and let's you decide whether to kill that app. It should also allow you to set a CPU threshold for certain apps, and autokill when the app exceeds that threshold.
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Use autostart to stop aap to run automatically in different situation.
onepinksheep said:
Well, if battery drain is your problem, then don't use a task killer -- that'll just be compounding the issue. As for how to deal with your battery drain, I've heard some reports about how turning off Facebook sync worked for some people.
Another option would be getting Watchdog Task Manager by Zomut from the Play Store (I've used it myself). It's not the typical task killer since rather than monitoring RAM, it instead keeps an eye on CPU usage (which is what causes battery drain) and notifies you when an app consumes too many CPU cycles and let's you decide whether to kill that app. It should also allow you to set a CPU threshold for certain apps, and autokill when the app exceeds that threshold.
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That was some what helpful. Thanks
vikasb32 said:
Use autostart to stop aap to run automatically in different situation.
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Yeah I should probably close the receivers for boot receiver and connectivity change
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Use super task killer widget or make a shortcut of RUNNING SERVICES to your homescreen.
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you might also give System Panel a try..available at play store
Task Killer
Use Automatic Task Killer.free on gapps. U just have to select the apps u want to be killed and it kills them when ur screen is off.
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vikasb32 said:
Use autostart to stop aap to run automatically in different situation.
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I do this all the time, I have all possible battery draining apps and I close them with long press back button and disable their start up
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vlt96 said:
I do this all the time, I have all possible battery draining apps and I close them with long press back button and disable their start up
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I also did the same.long press backup button to kill and use autostart to stop automatically start.
vikasb32 said:
I also did the same.long press backup button to kill and use autostart to stop automatically start.
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Can u tell me an autostart app?
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dante197 said:
Can u tell me an autostart app?
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Autostarts, is paid, I would honestly actually pay for it, but till then I am pirate
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts&hl=en
dante197 said:
Can u tell me an autostart app?
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Autorun Manager is a bit difficult to use for new users. u ll have to search for boot receivers and network change receivers among the receiver list for a particular app. if u disable an imp receiver then it ll forbid the app from running. so be careful. or else u can use other managers like Lidroid toolbox or Rom toolbox which are easy to use. Cheers
Souron29 said:
Autorun Manager is a bit difficult to use for new users. u ll have to search for boot receivers and network change receivers among the receiver list for a particular app. if u disable an imp receiver then it ll forbid the app from running. so be careful. or else u can use other managers like Lidroid toolbox or Rom toolbox which are easy to use. Cheers
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Nope, apps run anyway, but they won't start automatically if you disable receivers
vlt96 said:
Nope, apps run anyway, but they won't start automatically if you disable receivers
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Once I closed a receiver of poweramp and it didn't open up
I don't know if I'm doing anything wrong but I disabled "Google play" at start up through from toolbox however whenever I go back to the list it reactivates itself...
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timkl1 said:
I don't know if I'm doing anything wrong but I disabled "Google play" at start up through from toolbox however whenever I go back to the list it reactivates itself...
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which toolbox did u use? u should have USB debugging turned on
The whole debate surrounding task killers are stupid. Our phones have low memory and we are running custom built roms on our devices which tend to require more from our hardware in the case of ICS.
I like the ES TaskManager/File Explorer combo, has a nice task manager, autostart feature and apk backups.

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