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I'm rooted, running baked snacks 9.6 (the latest was slow) with the netarchy-toastmod FPS fix and overclocked with setcpu. I leave gps, wifi, and 4g on continuously just because I can (I rarely get 4g reception in San Marcos TX). Last night I didn't even charge the phone and I still had 50% battery life when I woke up. I get 55 frames per second consistently (stdv 5-6), and 5-point multitouch (I can play 5-note chords on piano app). It is blazingly smooth and fast. I spent hours downloading apps... probably have like 70 by now and it's still incredibly fast.
I love how I can just go to Google Nav and say my location and it understands me, and loads the destination onto the gps. In fact many apps I can just talk right into the phone and it just translates it.
I completely customized the home screen. It's pretty much my dream phone post XDA help. I have yet to find a single flaw. And it was a lot of fun learning how to root, flash roms, install kernels, and customize. It's like building your own PC and tweaking it to perfection. But then again I like projects and customization so the android community and xda community is definitely the place for me. The developers here are so awesome.
The difference between the EVO out of the box and the EVO in my hands is so large it may as well be called a different phone and it's all thanks to open source, sharing community.
I guess it's obvious I've become an EVO junkie by now. Iphone's are smooth out of the box, but so boring. What's to play with?
I compare the iphone to an xbox360 and an EVO to a PC computer. The former works out of the box (mostly) but you are limited to a closed system. The PC can be endlessly tweaked and customized.
Anyway, cheers!
Got mine on Day-1. (Jue 4th)
I am not rooted yet and still loving the stock version.
However, I will eventually be looking to take it to the next level.
Glad to hear that things are smooth with non-stock ROMs.
I will be there in the next few weeks.
Thanks for the update!
OP...I couldn't agree with you more. The devs are the only reason I bought the EVO. This is my first Android phone and I only picked it up 4 days ago. As such, I have not yet root'd myself. I am still learning as much as I can about the rooting process and other great tweaks before I transition to a custom ROM. There is huge amount of useful information if you search and read.
Many thanks to each and every dev that has contributed. Out of respect, I promise the following:
1. Search before posting
2. Use proper spelling/grammer
3. Ask clear/concise questions with a complete summary of what I was attempting to perform, summary of error messages/system behavior, and a summary of troubleshooting performed.
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Out of respect, I promise the following:
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3. Ask clear/concise questions with a complete summary of what I was attempting to perform, summary of error messages/system behavior, and a summary of troubleshooting performed.
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That should be part of the terms of usage when registering for an account.
[POLL] Which gsm hero rom is CURRENTLY running on your phone?
Choose one and we'll see what's going on in the world of our little gsm heros.
I don't see a poll like this for gsm hero - certainly nothing with current roms.
Good idea for a poll! I too would like to know what is happening with our little Hero(s).
thanks
I decided to limit to only one answer, what's running right now, since many of us nandroid and flash regularly we could end up with the 5 or 6 most obvious answers all being voted for by everyone. to me that's just silly.
at least this is scientific: if not absolutely indicative of everyone's favorite rom, at least it's indicative of the current choice.
Could be used for a trend chart if in the future we do the same poll again and compare results.
a.t.m. running:
- 2.3 gingerbread - cronos
Working good, happy Gingerbread user
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a.t.m. running:
- 2.3 gingerbread - cronos
Working good, happy Gingerbread user
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Dito, and voted as such
note: I kept results anonymous (hopefully) so if you wish to keep your status private you can still vote.
happy to see people posting openly though of course
wow hahaha reload first page of gsm hero development forum and every rom thread's most recent post is my link to this poll.
I wanted to be fair so tried to post the link for every rom that is getting current thread discussion.
but no posts there after my posts, even after 15 minutes or so - I suppose everyone's here voting.
pretty much the results I expected aside from the mass of gb users!
surprising about rcmix and tegro - I know of some users of those roms currently.
wow - you VR12 guys - you could consider backing up (using nandroid) and trying out RCmix or tegro. they're both much newer versions of sense roms that are quicker in some ways and also offer newer nicer features (newer widgets and other good things). but good that you're happy with vr12 still
Cheers
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wow - you VR12 guys - you could consider backing up (using nandroid) and trying out RCmix or tegro. they're both much newer versions of sense roms that are quicker in some ways and also offer newer nicer features (newer widgets and other good things). but good that you're happy with vr12 still
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Hey dkelley, long time no speak (again)
Interesting you mentioned VR12... I have been looking into security of the Android platform, and I would strongly recommend people move off Sense-based ROMs, and onto a Froyo custom ROM for now...
I am not at liberty to give details of the exploit (and I don't have full details), given most non-custom ROM devices will sit for the rest of their lives, vulnerable to this, but I understand that the 2.1 ROMs have some pretty serious security holes in the browser system, which appear to be better in the last set of sources I pulled from CM on the froyo tree (for FroydVillain 1.7.x)
So while it's interesting to see people still using VR12, I would suggest everyone on a Sense-based ROM moves to a "proper" 2.2 vanilla ROM. I don't think a Sense UI 2.2 ROM would be safe, so I'd discourage those too. It appears you need something CM based, and pretty recent.
As such, I would urge anyone using older CM-based ROMs (say from before November or October) to upgrade if they are concerned about security while surfing the internet. HTC don't seem to be interested in fixing the vulnerability, but I checked FV 1.7 and it is not vulnerable to this one attack.
If you support the idea of HTC being pressed into updating their phones (remember that EVERY user of the Hero, who isn't on a custom ROM, is vulnerable to any security exploits, which will not be fixed unless they do an update), then check out http://bit.ly/fDGHPV, where I am trying to get some support together before I contact HTC and mobile carriers.
PS Don, I seem to have derailed this a bit... Figured it was perhaps best to post this in here, since there's no point in making a new thread that we want to get many people to do, and you already did the "donkey work" so to speak. If this derails the thread, I'll sweep it out into another thread if you want
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If you support the idea of HTC being pressed into updating their phones (remember that EVERY user of the Hero, who isn't on a custom ROM, is vulnerable to any security exploits, which will not be fixed unless they do an update), then check out http://bit.ly/fDGHPV, where I am trying to get some support together before I contact HTC and mobile carriers.
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Hi....
Do you have any CVE references ?
http://cve.mitre.org/
This is just a blog with without any CVE-refs as I can see.....
http://thomascannon.net/blog/2010/11/android-data-stealing-vulnerability/
Hey Pulser
surprised you didn't send me a warning for spamming the same post linking to this thread in like a dozen gsm hero threads within 5 minutes yesterday LoL
Interesting, and a little scary, what you're saying.
But being the scientific (and slightly cynical) type I tend not to believe anything without either proof or at least further information.
I'll read up on it some - but can you summarize the possible type of damage? such as gathering of private data by parties who know about the exploit? or damage to the phone via intentional cause (again by parties in the know)? or what
dkelley said:
Hey Pulser
surprised you didn't send me a warning for spamming the same post linking to this thread in like a dozen gsm hero threads within 5 minutes yesterday LoL
Interesting, and a little scary, what you're saying.
But being the scientific (and slightly cynical) type I tend not to believe anything without either proof or at least further information.
I'll read up on it some - but can you summarize the possible type of damage? such as gathering of private data by parties who know about the exploit? or damage to the phone via intentional cause (again by parties in the know)? or what
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I went back to Cronosproject 1.7.2 from gb beta 6. Even the massive headway they made thus far has been awesome with Fee and Ele together I can't see how it can be made as good as 1.7.2. Its way behind on performance and hogs memory with the minimum system and regular apps installed. The battery seems awesome but not much in there to use it. I'll wait till full release or stick with this rom. I can have a desire on wife's upgrade but I fancy something more now.desire is very quick.
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I went back to Cronosproject 1.7.2 from gb beta 6. Even the massive headway they made thus far has been awesome with Fee and Ele together I can't see how it can be made as good as 1.7.2. Its way behind on performance and hogs memory with the minimum system and regular apps installed. The battery seems awesome but not much in there to use it. I'll wait till full release or stick with this rom. I can have a desire on wife's upgrade but I fancy something more now.desire is very quick.
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agreed but give it time, and disagreed about "hogs memory": using the available memory like crazy is done to speed up performance, it's not hogging anything in a bad way. when something else requests memory that memory is freed up.
gb's memory manager is years ahead of it's predecessors
but yea, it will take a while.
Note - it's at 0.0.7 now and has everything working except camera which they're working on. performance is always improving, all sensors work now, and it's pretty amazing.
I just need a more stable build for now dude. Grafix and app issues made me revert. I'm sure with input on Cronus now they will make it much better. They need to get used to each others methods of building. I love it on there and not many will give it the dedication that Feeyo puts in. Ele is not dissimilar so expect great things. The futures bright
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I just need a more stable build for now dude. Grafix and app issues made me revert. I'm sure with input on Cronus now they will make it much better. They need to get used to each others methods of building. I love it on there and not many will give it the dedication that Feeyo puts in. Ele is not dissimilar so expect great things. The futures bright
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agreed. was just correcting you about the memory hogging thing since it's a good thing not a bad thing.
edit: well, not agreed about stability LoL. sorry I keep doing that . I'm running it and have for days and it's super stable. gui speed has improved a ton now too. you wouldn't know you were in such a new rom if you tried it on my phone cuz I disabled the animatinos etc very carefully in various settings places and use LP and so on.
BUT for me the fastest rom is still cronos eclair lite - it's gui, with LP, is noticeably faster than with other roms. If only it wasn't 2.1 based (with it's EXCEPTIONALLY slow and crappy applications manager and so on).
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agreed. was just correcting you about the memory hogging thing since it's a good thing not a bad thing.
edit: well, not agreed about stability LoL. sorry I keep doing that . I'm running it and have for days and it's super stable. gui speed has improved a ton now too. you wouldn't know you were in such a new rom if you tried it on my phone cuz I disabled the animatinos etc very carefully in various settings places and use LP and so on.
BUT for me the fastest rom is still cronos eclair lite - it's gui, with LP, is noticeably faster than with other roms. If only it wasn't 2.1 based (with it's EXCEPTIONALLY slow and crappy applications manager and so on).
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I just had fc's with too many things. Neo, quad, then regular apps and no market. With minimal apps it was slowing right down. I figured that no matter how good the memory allocation manager if you don't have the physical memory the manager can't work right. I'll wait. Do you have basics like market working?
I never had any kind of lag with 1.7.2. The GUI is awesome. It benches close to the desire.
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I just had fc's with too many things. Neo, quad, then regular apps and no market. With minimal apps it was slowing right down. I figured that no matter how good the memory allocation manager if you don't have the physical memory the manager can't work right. I'll wait. Do you have basics like market working?
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everything's workign perfectly, no FCs, market's been fine for several versions now for most of us. everything except camera apps and certain specific graphics apps work great now.
neocore's broken, doesn't matter of course, same with quad, it's not relevant to anything. They're apps designed for certain operating system versions and hardware and the hero running gb doesn't fit the bill. those are are irrelevant apps that can be dismissed.
I play lots of games and they're working just great. all productivity and utility apps are great.
audio and multimedia stuff are fine too. not really sure where you were getting FCs but it sounds like it needed a new wipe and reflash possibly.
but then there's that strange thing were not every rom works on everyone's hero - I'll never know why, but I swear it's true
apps2sd and so on are working now (with a patch from elelinux). there's something that's slowing down the gui and animations still, and I accidentally had my gb phone running super fast in those areas when my app2sd flash borked. So I know a solution is possible to that last little bit of performance...
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everything's workign perfectly, no FCs, market's been fine for several versions now for most of us. everything except camera apps and certain specific graphics apps work great now.
neocore's broken, doesn't matter of course, same with quad, it's not relevant to anything. They're apps designed for certain operating system versions and hardware and the hero running gb doesn't fit the bill. those are are irrelevant apps that can be dismissed.
I play lots of games and they're working just great. all productivity and utility apps are great.
audio and multimedia stuff are fine too. not really sure where you were getting FCs but it sounds like it needed a new wipe and reflash possibly.
but then there's that strange thing were not every rom works on everyone's hero - I'll never know why, but I swear it's true
apps2sd and so on are working now (with a patch from elelinux). there's something that's slowing down the gui and animations still, and I accidentally had my gb phone running super fast in those areas when my app2sd flash borked. So I know a solution is possible to that last little bit of performance...
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Weird dude. I haven't had time to go through the thread but I will now and go again. I could swear I full factory reset and wiped everything.
I had a long week with kids but thanks, I wondered why it was so bad.... but it wasn't! And no mention of my probs!
Taxi for spike...
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Weird dude. I haven't had time to go through the thread but I will now and go again. I could swear I full factory reset and wiped everything.
I had a long week with kids but thanks, I wondered why it was so bad.... but it wasn't! And no mention of my probs!
Taxi for spike...
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haha - well hopefully it'll work better for you now than it did before. you will find slow gui screen animations at times though so it's worth disabling all of that and using launcherpro (if you can find launcherpro anywhere considering fede's rather frustrating emergency issue at the moment).
My launcher pro plus backup will work wont it?
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So I've been read a few threads, but haven't found anything yet. Not to break "the golden rule" of CM7, but are we close/will we ever get stock-like battery life for CM7? It has greatly improved since the early days of CM7 nightlies, and I've seen mad-murdock various fixes. I also know that dalingrin is working on it, but would like to know with the new 2.2 OEM ROM coming out, what the haps is
Thanks all for the great work and great community!
We don't get stock-like battery because CM7 doesn't sleep. The current kernel (2.6.29 I think) panics when comming out of sleep, hence, 'sleep of death'. Dal says that he's solved the SOD problem in the new kernel (2.6.32) he's working on. It's just not stage ready yet.
There was talk last week about the new kernel possibly not being included in the first stable release of CM7. If I remember right, it's because they want to focus on getting a polished, bug-free, and stable version going on the current kernel (which has many backports from the new kernel, so we're not at a real big disadvantage) before completely debugging the new one.
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We don't get stock-like battery because CM7 doesn't sleep. The current kernel (2.6.29 I think) panics when comming out of sleep, hence, 'sleep of death'. Dal says that he's solved the SOD problem in the new kernel (2.6.32) he's working on. It's just not stage ready yet.
There was talk last week about the new kernel possibly not being included in the first stable release of CM7. If I remember right, it's because they want to focus on getting a polished, bug-free, and stable version going on the current kernel (which has many backports from the new kernel, so we're not at a real big disadvantage) before completely debugging the new one.
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Thanks for the complete and informative reply. I just like being in the loop
woot1524 said:
We don't get stock-like battery because CM7 doesn't sleep. The current kernel (2.6.29 I think) panics when comming out of sleep, hence, 'sleep of death'. Dal says that he's solved the SOD problem in the new kernel (2.6.32) he's working on. It's just not stage ready yet.
There was talk last week about the new kernel possibly not being included in the first stable release of CM7. If I remember right, it's because they want to focus on getting a polished, bug-free, and stable version going on the current kernel (which has many backports from the new kernel, so we're not at a real big disadvantage) before completely debugging the new one.
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My only correction is that most of the 2.6.32 work has been done by Verygreen. I don't want to take credit for his great work.
Just want to say thanks for all the hard work, and I too am interested in this issue being fixed. It's the only thing holding me back from what looks like a great release in CM7.
Count me is as waiting for this.
For now I just shut down and reboot when I want to use it. Other then this issue, CM7 is great on the Nook.
Once SOD is solved, the nook color is going to really shine. Dalingrin, your 413a kernel is absolutely stunning. Keep up the good work devs!
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My only correction is that most of the 2.6.32 work has been done by Verygreen. I don't want to take credit for his great work.
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have you seen the issues with latest ALSA and kernel?
Seems we are all having crashes of hardware acceleration after a while of use. Only fix is a reboot
Any change to kink at this before next week?
Must say otherwise this kernel had been with smooth high performance on video and games.
From 1.1 Nook Color with 1.1 ghz overclock
Canadoc said:
have you seen the issues with latest ALSA and kernel?
Seems we are all having crashes of hardware acceleration after a while of use. Only fix is a reboot
Any change to kink at this before next week?
Must say otherwise this kernel had been with smooth high performance on video and games.
From 1.1 Nook Color with 1.1 ghz overclock
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Dal said he was busy/away this weekend, so won't see anything til later. It is a beta test kernel, after all I flashed it but had some crashes, so I restored a backup I made right before.
That being said, I hate sounding like a whining brat (like a lot of people on here). I really am just curious with how things are (in an inquisitive manor, not a "I WANT IT NOW" one). Truth be told, the NC has come SOOOO far in the last few months, and I have been so stoked to be along for the ride.
I like to think I was the first person ON EARTH to load up Dal's kernel the day he fixed the hardware acceleration. I love the discussions on here, and (most) of the people. It is really a cool and special thing to be involved in a community like this. I know most devs may think that when I (and others?) say thank you, it's in a manor that may sound insincere, but really, you guys are awesome.
Due to all the development here, I started teaching myself Java and how to use the SDK to try and make apps that can benefit people on here in some way. I just wish I knew more about development of the actual kernel/rom. After this term I plan on dual booting to ubuntu on my x64 desktop to try and get into compiling/editing the source, but have to get through this term. CFD and incomp. fluid mechanics take up a bit of time
Really. Thank you all! You are all awesome!
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Another perspective
Let me offer some perspective on this.
We used to have Motion LS800 WinXP tablet at work. It basically had standby SOD problem. Would not wake from sleep (power down, suspend to RAM). We ended up putting it in hibernation (power down, suspend to HDD) instead. Those of you who remember WinXP laptops may know what I'm talking about.
We went through updates, hotfixes, service packs, an entire upgrade to Win Vista. Nothing solved problem. Finally an upgrade to Win 7 allowed the LS800 to sleep properly. All in all, it took Microsoft 3+ years to give us a fix.
Going by that performance standard, CM7 should have Nook standby SOD issue solved sometime in the year 2014. Anything before then would be pure gravy.
EDIT: Actually, I hope I didn't offend CM7. It's not a standby "problem," it is a standby compromise, to allow development on other front.
Some PCs have sleep problems because of USB and ACPI quirks unfortunately. They are usually hardware and/or BIOS issues not related to the OS. I think MS tightened down the requirements for Windows certification since. But there are ways to get XP usually sleeping right (I've spent a lot of time on it lol).
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... problems because of USB and ACPI quirks ... usually hardware and/or BIOS issues ...
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True, lab mainly rocking pre-Prescott p4 Dell-branded boxes, no reason to upgrade, but none can really sleep.
Regarding the LS800, same hardware, different OS, still counts as a software fix. How many thousands of engineers in MS Windows division? There's only three developers for CM7 Nook.
I'd say that merits cutting them some slack, not a lot, just a little, maybe expect fix by year 2015.
If you want sleep issues, try building a hackintosh! At least CM7 turns off the screen and then turns back on again. My hackintosh experiment ran great other than sleep, which left me frustrated to the point of selling off the hardware.
Anyway, I love CM7. Works great on all other fronts. While I appreciate the battery life of stock, everything else is just frustrating by comparison. I'd love to see a nice HC build someday, along with app-makers getting some tablet-compatible updates out (at least so the apps don't force quit). I'm so conflicted on what to run at this point that I dare not try any other ROMs. I don't want all my time on my NC to be in CWM.
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If you want sleep issues, try building a hackintosh! At least CM7 turns off the screen and then turns back on again. My hackintosh experiment ran great other than sleep, which left me frustrated to the point of selling off the hardware.
Anyway, I love CM7. Works great on all other fronts. While I appreciate the battery life of stock, everything else is just frustrating by comparison. I'd love to see a nice HC build someday, along with app-makers getting some tablet-compatible updates out (at least so the apps don't force quit). I'm so conflicted on what to run at this point that I dare not try any other ROMs. I don't want all my time on my NC to be in CWM.
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Ran a hackitosh on my eee pc 1000h. Worked fine. Now just dualbooting Win7 and Ubuntu with Burg
Hi all,
First post as just registered here but XDA seems to be the best place for this subject by far.
Should I root and unlock, install kernel, overclock etc?
I use it for:
-Emails (Business & personal)
-Web browsing (a lot)
-Some games (but simple ones)
-Viewing and editing (slightly) Images.
-Google Analytics/Ads/Drive
-CRM database etc
In addition to the above question, I want to now if overclocking to 1.4, 1.5 or 1.6 ghz or install would make the N7 smoother and faster for these general things? I wont be 'gaming' or doing anything massively graphics or processor intensive (I dont think?)
iAmlearning said:
Hi all,
First post as just registered here but XDA seems to be the best place for this subject by far.
Should I root and unlock, install kernel, overclock etc?
I use it for:
-Emails (Business & personal)
-Web browsing (a lot)
-Some games (but simple ones)
-Viewing and editing (slightly) Images.
-Google Analytics/Ads/Drive
-CRM database etc
In addition to the above question, I want to now if overclocking to 1.4, 1.5 or 1.6 ghz or install would make the N7 smoother and faster for these general things? I wont be 'gaming' or doing anything massively graphics or processor intensive (I dont think?)
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Based on your uses I'd leave it stock...you could however install a custom kernel and squeeze some more battery life out of it.
Risk and Difficulty?
Culex316 said:
Based on your uses I'd leave it stock...you could however install a custom kernel and squeeze some more battery life out of it.
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Ok thanks, I have thought about battery life however I am willing to sacrifice a little battery for more speed. Do you think you'd notice the difference? In terms of smoothness and speed on general activities? Also one BIG question(s), how hard it is and how risky is it to root from Mac? Whats the likelihood of me ruining my device, for good? Are we saying 1 in 1000 or for a rookie like me a toss of a coin?
I have watched a few videos and find it pretty amazing what you can do to a phone or tablet. Especially by yourself.
iAmlearning said:
Hi all,
First post as just registered here but XDA seems to be the best place for this subject by far.
Should I root and unlock, install kernel, overclock etc?
I use it for:
-Emails (Business & personal)
-Web browsing (a lot)
-Some games (but simple ones)
-Viewing and editing (slightly) Images.
-Google Analytics/Ads/Drive
-CRM database etc
In addition to the above question, I want to now if overclocking to 1.4, 1.5 or 1.6 ghz or install would make the N7 smoother and faster for these general things? I wont be 'gaming' or doing anything massively graphics or processor intensive (I dont think?)
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Hi, iAmlearning...
Based on your needs... I would say... stay stock, but root...
You can then run apps like Titanium (always useful for backing up those Temple Run 2 high scores.. or running AdAway (for getting rid of those pesky, annoying ads that seem to crop up just about everywhere...)
As far as risk is concerned... well, it's not really quantifiable... there is ALWAYS the possibility you might hard-brick the thing... but then, you might drop it on the kitchen floor tomorrow!
I'd be a liar if I said the Nexus 7 was 'unbrickable' ... it is eminently 'brickable'! But it's actually kind of hard to do! And if you follow many of the excellent instructions here on XDA, you should be OK. (Actually, rooting is a piece of cake - people make too much of it.)
Finally... rooting involves unlocking the BOOTLOADER... which WIPES the device and performs a FACTORY RESET... so I would suggest it might be done sooner rather than later... before you build up a lot of content on it (not that it can't be backed up elsewhere beforehand).
Once you have root, you can then think about custom ROMs and kernels much later.
But root is you're gateway.
Rgrds,
Ged.
iAmlearning said:
Hi all,
First post as just registered here but XDA seems to be the best place for this subject by far.
Should I root and unlock, install kernel, overclock etc?
I use it for:
-Emails (Business & personal)
-Web browsing (a lot)
-Some games (but simple ones)
-Viewing and editing (slightly) Images.
-Google Analytics/Ads/Drive
-CRM database etc
In addition to the above question, I want to now if overclocking to 1.4, 1.5 or 1.6 ghz or install would make the N7 smoother and faster for these general things? I wont be 'gaming' or doing anything massively graphics or processor intensive (I dont think?)
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Doesn't sound like you really need to root. If you get sick of the interface or whatever you can always install a launcher like Nova Prime and play around with it. The things you can do without being rooted is pretty amazing.
Overclocking it to 1.4 Ghz won't make a huge difference, but overclocking to 1.8 Ghz will. It will also drain your battery a lot faster - something to think about. I'm one of the under clockers to preserve battery.
One further question?
ynrozturk said:
Doesn't sound like you really need to root. If you get sick of the interface or whatever you can always install a launcher like Nova Prime and play around with it. The things you can do without being rooted is pretty amazing.
Overclocking it to 1.4 Ghz won't make a huge difference, but overclocking to 1.8 Ghz will. It will also drain your battery a lot faster - something to think about. I'm one of the under clockers to preserve battery.
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You have probably answered my question, I am a bit scared to overclock past 1.4 or 1.5 due to the heat and me not really knowing what I am doing and as the battery life is fairly important I might just leave as stock.
However like a few people advise I may try to give the rooting a go.... or maybe find a cheap used tablet or handset and try it on that first?
Would be great to get rid of the adverts.
Question - I have heard that some of these customer ROM's take away the unnecessary junk from the OS and make things smoother and faster? Would this be more worthwhile than overclocking if I were to do just one? Also any ROM's for this purpose that people recommend?
Thans again everyone
Well because the device is a Nexus device, it comes very clean as default. Not really any junk on the device to slow it down, even though that "junk" is relative. For example, I live in Europe and Google Play Music does not work over here, so I've disabled it. I've also disabled Google Currents, and any other built in apps that I simply do not use. Now it's like those apps are not even on my device - they are just dead.
If we were talking about a Samsung tablet, then yes I would say root it. Because rooting would allow you to get rid of Samsung's Touchwiz interface, which can be a bit of a RAM hog. But the Nexus 7 doesn't have such a problem, it's already stock and very smooth.
I can tell that you're very interested in this stuff and you will most probably root in the near future. However, my advice to you would be to just use and enjoy the device as it is right now, but in the mean time just read about how to unlock bootloaders, rooting, custom ROM's.. read as much as you can. You'll get more familiar with the process and the terminology, and it will be a big help when it comes time to root two months down the line.
One custom ROM I can recommend is Paranoid Android. Truthfully, it's the only one I can recommend because its the only one I've flashed. I like it, but does it make a huge difference from stock in terms of speed? Not really. It has a load of other cool features, though.
If all you're interested in is battery life and performance, rooting and a custom kernel would suffice. However for what you say you'll be using it for, not really needed. The nexus line is super simple to root and play around on though. It all sounds way more complicated than it really is.
Sent from my Paranoid 3.0 Nexus7 running M-Kernel mr1
ynrozturk said:
Well because the device is a Nexus device, it comes very clean as default. Not really any junk on the device to slow it down, even though that "junk" is relative. For example, I live in Europe and Google Play Music does not work over here, so I've disabled it. I've also disabled Google Currents, and any other built in apps that I simply do not use. Now it's like those apps are not even on my device - they are just dead.
If we were talking about a Samsung tablet, then yes I would say root it. Because rooting would allow you to get rid of Samsung's Touchwiz interface, which can be a bit of a RAM hog. But the Nexus 7 doesn't have such a problem, it's already stock and very smooth.
I can tell that you're very interested in this stuff and you will most probably root in the near future. However, my advice to you would be to just use and enjoy the device as it is right now, but in the mean time just read about how to unlock bootloaders, rooting, custom ROM's.. read as much as you can. You'll get more familiar with the process and the terminology, and it will be a big help when it comes time to root two months down the line.
One custom ROM I can recommend is Paranoid Android. Truthfully, it's the only one I can recommend because its the only one I've flashed. I like it, but does it make a huge difference from stock in terms of speed? Not really. It has a load of other cool features, though.
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Quite impressed that you can determine this, as its 100% correct. I am probably going to do this at some point, but maybe not just yet, I think I need to get comfortable with the process and research a bit more about it all. Also, I am actually very impressed with the Nexus 7 as it id and coming from an Apple iPhone 5 and iPad 3, I can safely say that I'd not go back to either after this. I used to think Apple had it all in terms of functionality and innovation, however in recent years they have almost made backwards steps.
But thanks for the response, I keep seeing the Paranoid ROM around and on signatures. So may give that a go.
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Quite impressed that you can determine this, as its 100% correct. I am probably going to do this at some point, but maybe not just yet, I think I need to get comfortable with the process and research a bit more about it all. Also, I am actually very impressed with the Nexus 7 as it id and coming from an Apple iPhone 5 and iPad 3, I can safely say that I'd not go back to either after this. I used to think Apple had it all in terms of functionality and innovation, however in recent years they have almost made backwards steps.
But thanks for the response, I keep seeing the Paranoid ROM around and on signatures. So may give that a go.
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I wouldnt root it for the uses you are indicating, BUT from your post I can already see that you eventually will. My advise is set a saturday or friday night aside and get this done sooner than later. Its just easier because this device not having an SD card will make it difficult to restore data and things that you have already done on it ( I got it two days ago and still havent rooted but am already worreid about some of the work ). The thing that usually helps me the most is youtube. Read a lot but have a good comprehensive detailed youtube video of teh rooting method you decide to follow and just follow along with the video. I have rooted 3 phones using that method and have yet to brick anything.
First off, I really don't understand why there is not a sticky for this kind of stuff. For example:
STICKY: Difference between SD and EMMC
STICKY: Pro's and Con's of CM7 vs CM 10.1
STICKY: CM7/10.1 on SD
STICKY: CM7/10.1 on EMMC
STICKY: List of CM7 ROMS/DEVS and Comparison
STICKY: List of CM10.1 ROMS/DEVS and Comparison
I don't understand why as a brand new user I had to do hours worth of reading, digging, searching, for something that when I finally had the information I needed only took 30 minutes.
I found most of those examples above (which were not stickyed) but I have not found anything giving a good comparison of the current CM10.1 roms available. I just tried out SCHIZOID 2.00 and like it so far, but it is a bit laggy.
Any information on the current roms with someone who has tried them would be much appreciated and save me a lot of time.
And mods, I apologize for the rant above, but if you could please take into consideration from someone brand new to the community(that is tech savy and is a linux administrator). Due to the disorganization of documentation, this is the hardest thing I have probably done and it shouldn't have been as its so easy
Thanks in advance,
-Matt
Well everything is going to be a bit laggy, the device is getting rather long in the tooth, it just doesn't have much more it can give now that we're on to phones and tablets that have 1Ghz+ or dual core stock procs. We have some overclocking up to 1000mhz (1Ghz for all intents and purposes) on the NC, and I'm using CM10.1 6-17-13 from the official nightly page over at CM. http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?type=nightly&device=encore
I find it to be reasonably responsive, about as good as CM7 was on it, but it's not going to be as fast as the stock programming, because that was a fairly stripped down Android pretty much just for reading books, watching netflix, and playing Angry Birds...
As far as having to read for hours to learn about the different versions, well... there's a lot of people involved and nothing official about it. There's a lot of personal preference from one user to the next over who's coding what better, and I for one am glad to have people testing it out and posting their reactions. The hours you spend reading probably save you 10x as many hours in trial and error installing different roms to see how they run.
Just read the last posts from the devs thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=864
And judge for your self.
Personally I like mateorod work over ParanoidAndroid!, but as you say, is a matter of taste.